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[ExFelineServer3]

That was some random alternate chaos, kind of with Jaune and how he's feeling.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

Ugh... The Reddit Mods would not let me post this. Probably because they have enough shipping arguments. But bare with me here.



Imagine if Blake was a male character... And that was the only change. Male!Blake does all the same things, runs off on Yang after Adam (male or female, whatever) beats him up and cuts off Yang's arm. He abandons RWBY/JNPR and only comes back to their aid at Haven by complete coincidence, and never, ever apologizes to Yang onscreen for running out on her and their friends.



Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the same Bumblebee fans who so viciously defend the terrible execution of this ship would be as thrilled. Because now instead of it having the modern protection of "If you criticize it, you hate gays!" it is now a man abandoning the woman he ostensibly is madly in love with and never apologizing for it or leaving his friends to potentially die.



And if you make Yang a man, he just has to take his alleged destined love abandoning him and his family and friends and never apologizing for it.



Now naturally, people would still defend this ship if it was like this. There are crazy people who still think Reylo in the Star Wars Sequel trilogy or Azula/Anyone from Avatar: The Last Airbender are good ships. But without that protection of "If you criticize this, you are a bigot", suddenly, the dysfunctional and potentially abusive nature of the relationship is revealed.



Funny how that works, huh?

 

[zMADLAXz]

You know I just realised something sad.

Infidelity is probably a rampant problem in Remnant. While most of our focus is on Jaune who is Shonen levels of dedicated and would never cheat, if we take a step back and look at the whole demographic, the working conditions of huntsman really make them prone to cheating.

Now I will preface this by saying that cheating is ultimately a personal decision and you cannot blame things as "nature" or "timing" for that.

But you have Men and Women, going on extended missions, under high stress combat conditions, often staying away for lengths of time and only people near them to keep them company or to understand their turmoil?

Plus every huntsman has a super charged biology, libido isn't the issue here?

It's basically the same issue that army faces but multiplied by an even larger danger factor and higher libido. And a very, very lax attitude and flexible rules.

Plus think of the Huntsman and Civilian pairings?

Plus with how open in terms of gender and sexuality Remnant is, unlike the traditional case where you might know about the cheating via untimely pregnancy, here you don't know if your significant other cheated or not if they start playing for the other team.

 

[zMADLAXz]

But without that protection of "If you criticize this, you are a bigot", suddenly, the dysfunctional and potentially abusive nature of the relationship is revealed.



Funny how that works, huh?

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That reminds of the statistic that Lesbian Women have one of the highest rate of Divorce and cheating that is reported.

Now, some people on reddit have said that it is wrong or misinterpreted but none have put forward their own "correct" stats as counter argument.

In fact, recently on YT shorts I was seeing this stand up comedian lady Taylor Tomilson, who I think came out as bisexual, and she said something like "The most difficult art about dating women is respecting their choice, with a man I can think "He doesn't know what is missing out on" if we break up , but for a woman I have to say to myself, "Good for you, you are strong for recognising your choice" ", and all that jazz.

I am not commenting on her dating life because I have been following her for some time now and I know she ahs gone through shit in her dating life and mental health but it really puts into perspective how internalised sexism is even in people of the LGBTQ+ community.


In fact, recently on Reddit I saw discussion between two people where one put forward that they were harassed by people on tumblr for disagreeing with someone that Jaune is an egg when the other person said that "look at his Bunny onesie and how he dresses up for Pyrrha" and said that these kind of things could be counted as Positive masculinity.

The other as you would expect the literal stereotypical caricature of tumblr user and was continuously putting forward allegations.

It's so sad for me that people like these can't even see past their own hypocrisy.

 

[Bommel]

Ugh... The Reddit Mods would not let me post this. Probably because they have enough shipping arguments. But bare with me here.



Imagine if Blake was a male character... And that was the only change. Male!Blake does all the same things, runs off on Yang after Adam (male or female, whatever) beats him up and cuts off Yang's arm. He abandons RWBY/JNPR and only comes back to their aid at Haven by complete coincidence, and never, ever apologizes to Yang onscreen for running out on her and their friends.



Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the same Bumblebee fans who so viciously defend the terrible execution of this ship would be as thrilled. Because now instead of it having the modern protection of "If you criticize it, you hate gays!" it is now a man abandoning the woman he ostensibly is madly in love with and never apologizing for it or leaving his friends to potentially die.

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"Does it survive a genderswap" is almost always a decent way to test if behavoir is actually acceptable, if it's horrible or completely toxic with a double standerd lens.

 

[CountvonBarnOwl]

Ugh... The Reddit Mods would not let me post this. Probably because they have enough shipping arguments. But bare with me here.



Imagine if Blake was a male character... And that was the only change. Male!Blake does all the same things, runs off on Yang after Adam (male or female, whatever) beats him up and cuts off Yang's arm. He abandons RWBY/JNPR and only comes back to their aid at Haven by complete coincidence, and never, ever apologizes to Yang onscreen for running out on her and their friends.



Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the same Bumblebee fans who so viciously defend the terrible execution of this ship would be as thrilled. Because now instead of it having the modern protection of "If you criticize it, you hate gays!" it is now a man abandoning the woman he ostensibly is madly in love with and never apologizing for it or leaving his friends to potentially die.



And if you make Yang a man, he just has to take his alleged destined love abandoning him and his family and friends and never apologizing for it.



Now naturally, people would still defend this ship if it was like this. There are crazy people who still think Reylo in the Star Wars Sequel trilogy or Azula/Anyone from Avatar: The Last Airbender are good ships. But without that protection of "If you criticize this, you are a bigot", suddenly, the dysfunctional and potentially abusive nature of the relationship is revealed.



Funny how that works, huh?

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Would anyone mind if County got a few swings in while we're still kind of within the postal code of Dubious Writing Decisions by CRWBY and weird unsettling thoughts? No? Okay.

Editor von BarnOwl here. It ended up being more than a few.

James Ironwood has to be one of the most useless generals in all of fiction.

Now I know what you all are thinking. 'He'd have been fine had CRWBY not desperately been trying to overcorrect after they accidentally wrote him to be a sympathetic, complex, and interesting antagonist.' Yes. And while I do think that most of CRWBY's most profound and meaningful writing happens entirely by accident and without (or perhaps even against) their wishes. Make no mistake, I thought he was great for his part in Volume 7 (or as great as he could be), but on reflection, while I do think he's a sympathetic antagonist with very valid concerns (even if he comes across as such entirely by accident).

Spoiler: This one scene right fucking here

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Okay the link is giving me trouble but you are all astute enough to know exactly which scene I'm talking about from the spoiler title alone?

First off, it seems like the basic deployable unit that Atlas structures all of its doctrines around is... let's call it what it is; A fucking 1600s era Tercio. By that I mean the 12x12 man block of infantry with (if you squint) 2 officers positioned at the back (where they can contribute the least) and two Paladins on its right flank (your left if you're facing them). I did not count some other guy wanting to calculate Atlas' military strength for his own AU on a different website did. We have, of course the gamut of cinema combat sins (people in front of walls & fortifications rather than on/in/behind them). In America, for comparison the basic deployable unit is what is known as the Brigade Combat Team, and it is exactly that a 1 brigade (4,000-5,000 men) self-sufficient formation.

I believe, by contrast, the whole Atlas doctrine revolves around stacking these blocks and building them up before marching them straight at the Grimm. Now I could discuss the out-of-universe reasons for why this is (squares are simple and cheap to animate & [Redacted by order of Count's Sobriety - for this post]). But as I said here or in another thread I like to come up with in-universe explanations for the absurdities. Here's why it stuck with me in RWBY. I once read an old piece of FF.net - a crossover - in which an Alpha Legion Techmarine finds himself stranded on Remnant. After he learns about Remnant's socio-political situation, he comes to the conclusion, somebody (or a group of somebodies) have created this status quo from the shadows and worked very hard to keep it this way, and for a very long time (he has no idea about Ozpin and Salem but he bases the judgment off of his experience with death worlds, the ones fortunate enough to achieve any degree of political development usually become ultra-militarized or warlike and society clenches like a fist). I cannot even say how long ago I read it or if it is still up. But that line sticks with me, that and the one where he also (humorously) tries to give Yang advice after watching a spar between her and Pyrrha ("get new weapons, between her sword, spear, gun, and shield she has a good reply for every combat situation, you on the other hand have to charge a braced spear and shield with your fists").

And that got me thinking, you see. So I ask myself, how much of the societal incongruity that comes from a bunch of writers who live in a city that does not need to be walled off, whose political opinions can be surmised as "late 2010s Twitter," who can be badgered by Tumblr into writing the latter's favorite mess into canon (nonsensical though it is for the story), and whose competence can be best described as "a punchline," trying to write a characters in a setting of continuous, pervasive, and substantial mortal peril, and where the reaper's hand probably feels a hell of a lot heavier on the common man's shoulder can be put to a very powerful, very old (and therefore very opinionated and set in his ways) wizard fucking around behind the curtain.

I do think that CRWBY wanted to make Ozpin "morally grey," and just didn't follow through, but that would have been a good way to go about it. A man who, ultimately has done more good than harm (especially given humanity is still around) but he has... tendencies.

I can see why he let Mantle's successor state keep their military - I think it was disputed (on SB maybe?) the long held notion that only Atlas has an army. So I went back and looked at the script for the WoR episode. Atlas is the only kingdom with a STANDING army. Everyone else does have armies and does not solely rely on Huntsmen, but it sound like they have them in the form of calling up urban peasant levies (which will probably lead to greater hilarity) as the need arises. Maybe, and here's an unsettling thought, Ozpin has an opinion on organized standing armed forces not too far out of step with his IRL creators? What if he orchestrated events so as to let the Atlesians see the futility of their ways, and the objective superiority of his way, by making sure (however he could make sure) that the Atlesian Army was as ineffective as possible.

148 men (inclunding two in paladins positioned to get in each other's way and two commanders positioned as far from where they can read and control the battle as possible) arranged in a fucking square. I shouldn't need to paint a picture of what happens if a large distinctly non-humanoid monster gets in their midst. Though based on that you can argue the formation's greatest (only) strength. Assuming that melee with the Grimm is unavoidable, structure infantry deployments such that when the Grimm does start rending the morons in droves, it will face massed fire from every direction. Of course the logical follow-up is what happens if the bullets miss or overpenetrate? The answer is that it becomes even more obvious how terrible this strategy is for fighting Grimm. In fact the only two I can think of that are worse are either 1) sending Auraless soldiers out by their lonesome, and 2) assuming the line infantry formation designed specifically to defeat the tercio (which while maximizing fire and ground held against other lines and formations, is even less responsive to a monster in among them, and they cannot bring as many guns to bear against it.

Boy small, brightly colored Teams of Aura wielders sound appealing now don't they

But what does this have to do with Ironwood's stupidity? I'm getting there. And that was without getting to the reason that I think Beacon era Ruby would probably hate Atlesian people. I will save that one for later, or for another post

It has to do with Ironwood's stupidity because I think Ozpin was behind Ironwood's rise to power as both head of Atlas Academy and head of the Atlesian Army. But why in the case of the latter? Wouldn't Ozpin want a competent ally leading the Army?

Of course, I've thrown out insults, but no explanations, so here is the explanation. Ironwood's Semblance, which let us not forget is a post-hoc bullshit excuse conjured up by CRWBY to explain away the emotional weight of the scene where he finally gives up hope on Ozcar. It was touching, the way the light left his eyes for the second-to-last time. The minute he realized that he had nobody except maybe Winter. That everything and everyone that he had given his all for up to that point had betrayed him, and had been betraying him.

Mettle is, at its base, the ability to not have the two traits a general needs to succeed. It makes him hyperfocus on one thing when a general's mind must focus on all things. "What happens over here matters over there" - General Shepherd, six days before killing Ghost. A general officer must account for tens if not hundreds of thousands of his own men. Of where they will be, of when they will be there, of how they will get there, of how much they will eat between now and then, etc. And that's just for his own side, he must too account for all of his enemy's men, and for the enemy running the same calculations in his head, trying to position those tens or hundreds of thousands of men to kill him and his. This we call strategy, and Ironwood's power is one half 'the ability to not do that.'

The other half of Ironwood's power is that it 'gives him the resolve to carry through with tough choices and suppress his doubts.' And that might be good in theory. Doubt means hesitance, and hesitance is death on the battlefield. But that is only true of doubt in medium to large doses. Doubt in small doses signals us to perhaps reconsider our actions, that our gut and our reptile brain have gotten together and held forth that the conscious mind is about to make a critical blunder. In leading large numbers of men into battle you can see how the ability to say 'wait, maybe this is a bad idea,' even if subconsciously, is something a commander who wants to live and win would value. This we call instinct, and Ironwood's Semblance robs him of that too. It is the same skill that lets a commander read the tide of battle when a decision is needed at less than a moment's notice. Instinct is what takes the inputs "I am up against X, in terrain Y, and the left flank has been concerningly quiet. I better defer or scrap action Z and switch to my Plan B. Strategy, to the converse is, "If I come up against X in terrain Y, I will do Z unless, say, variable A or something like it takes place on the left flank, then I should go to Plan B."

How does a man like that get promoted beyond company level? There a superior officer can give him a single task and set him to it before putting his own mind to more sensitive matters, sure in the knowledge that that objective is in the hands of a man who will not stop or flinch before he and everyone under him is dead. Of course, those of you that remember my own ranking system mentioned earlier in this thread was that I gave Atlesian Specialists the standard rank of Major (O-4 in the NATO system), which is typically the XO or sometimes even CO of a battalion ~1,000 men but structures in which a battalion is 800, 500, or 350 men do or did exist. My own thought is three 148 man companies makes up a battalion in the Atlesian system but that, like all matters of Count's AU production is subject to change if I come up with something better/more sensible or hear a better argument. I ripped that from FMA where the State Alchemists in Amestris (because Amestris is a stratocratic parliamentary republic) are all technically and legally majors in the Amestrian army unless they make a genuine career of being a soldier and start climbing ranks.

Ironwood could succeed there too. He'd have to start dividing his focus among at least three, but perhaps six or seven different matters concurrently, and to change his mind as his situation changes around him. But as long as he has someone giving him an OVERALL objective a 'accomplish this goal within these parameters if reasonably practicable' order from somebody higher up he could conceivably succeed. I say conceivably because this is when it becomes a capital letters IMPARATIVE to possess a great deal of initiative & intuitive understanding. Of course, new officers need that, and NCOs need that quite a lot so they can keep their boss going in the right direction, but this is where discretion, experience, and the ability to make snap judgments based off of the tides of battle become more than ordinarily imperative. And I chose my prior words with care, you see. We, well my fellow Americans, have all heard the story of the Battle of Gettysburg. Driven by desperation, Confederate General Robert E. Lee was pulled into a battle with Union General George Meade. Meade was driven out of the town proper but still held the heights to the south. He was all that stood between Lee and D.C.. One of Lee's top corps commanders, Lieutenant General Longstreet advised Lee either withdraw and make a dash for the Union capital, if it so pleased him, or better yet, withdraw and redeploy on more advantageous ground. But Lee was at that point desperate for not just a win, but a decisive win against the Union. The Union had most of the country's populace and industrial base, so they could reinforce and resupply ad nauseum. The Confederacy could not. And that was before the Union blockaded them. And it was already 1863. So Lee, decided to stake it all on a single throw of the dice, to completely and utterly demoralize the Union army by kicking the snot out of them and then threatening the capital.

Now that you know why the battle happened, those with passing knowledge of the US Civil War will say, "Wait. I thought Stonewall Jackson was Lee's top corps commander." He was the other one. But he had recently been shot by his own men when riding back to his camp on a foggy night when they thought him a Union scout. His replacement, Richard Ewell, was not nearly as good at his job. Lee told Ewell to take Cemetery Hill "if practicable." Ewell did not think it was and failed to contest the Union position. Jackson would not have made that mistake. This comes from the fact that Jackson had a knack for digesting ambiguously worded orders and taking liberties in their interpretation based on battlefield inputs (I've been over this) and turning them into detailed little assignments for his division commanders and lower officers to carry out. Ewell, one of said division commanders, depended on detailed orders based on conditions planned by higher ups. And the whole Confederacy paid for it, decisively.

The night is winding on, and I still don't think I am quite to where the place that I want to be because I just took a detour through Fullmetal Alchemist and the American Civil War, but am I saying that Ozpin deliberately put Ironwood in charge to kneecap or sabotage the Atlesian army? I would not put it past the man. Whether this is something to ignore as CRWBY's usual bungling or a tool in the toolkit of anybody who wants to write Ozpin with more of a devious edge. Oh, and the fanfic potential for ulterior motives for Ozpin building the inner circle he did how, where, and with whom he did it.

County, you're rambling again and closing on 2.6K words on a fucking dissertation. Don't turn this into the The Atlas Arc was bad, and not just bad, but they're damming the river Styx and forcing everybody in the Fifth Circle to watch it on loop for the rest of eternity instead bad.

 

[zMADLAXz]

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Hmmm.

While I am not well versed in the millitary formations as Count so passionately described and subsequently disassembled, I do realise that it's a fair point to make that Ozpin is trying to actively keep the power to himself by setting up examples that show his way is the correct way.

In fact in the eyes of an immortal wizard who has been there since this creation of Humanity, what is the worth of hundreds or thousands if Humans when the outcome is that the world is "united" against a common enemy following his own plans and schemes?

While Ozma is constantly patient and supportive, how much of that is his genuine self and how much of that is his learned instinct.

He sacrificed the stored magic for Oscar but for an immortal, what is the worth of time if he knew that magic is going to inevitably recharge.

Even his words to Oscar saying that he was doing good enough without him seem disingenuous considering that tge reason he got into this mess was him being his vessel.

In fact I am still not over the fact that Ozma probably knew about Jaune and the Rusted Knight because if you look back to it, it makes no fucking sense to admit him to the institute unless you knew he was integral to your plans.

RK became the equivalent of Statue of Chivalry for Huntsman and based on him Ozma was able to let people become government employed Mercenaries.

 

[cavalal386]

reading the last two post just gave me an idea, what if Ozma's the villain and Salem's the hero?
history is written by the victors after all. whose to say that Ozma, whose been around for so long, didn't change the story to fit him and his goals, while painting Salem as the villain, kind of like Kingpin and Spider-Man.

might be a good idea for a story.

also my headcanon for why Ozpin doesn't want a standing army is that "History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes". Ozpin been around for a long time, maybe he did tried having an army and saw that it didn't work, so he's trying something new this time and hoping it has more success.
but that's just me.

 

[Gur40]

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Never attribute to malice that can be explained by incompedence
Oz SUCKS as a manipulative mastermind BECAUSE he is Empathetic
While Salem is GREAT at manipulating and twisting people as shown in her flashback and in the show
Salem is Great as a shadow Villain with the deck so stacked we have to make up excuses on why she HASN'T won yet
Oz is just... eh, he is no Lelouch/Shikamaru/L/Light

 

[cavalal386]

Never attribute to malice that can be explained by incompedence
Oz SUCKS as a manipulative mastermind BECAUSE he is Empathetic
While Salem is GREAT at manipulating and twisting people as shown in her flashback and in the show
Salem is Great as a shadow Villain with the deck so stacked we have to make up excuses on why she HASN'T won yet
Oz is just... eh, he is no Lelouch/Shikamaru/L/Light

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is this about my headcanon or my idea?

if it's about the headcanon, i never said it was a good headcanon, just what i think an immortal whose fighting a shadow war would try. other than that fair enough.

if it's about the idea, than how would you go on about it? not trying to an asshole, i'm honestly just curious.

 

[Gur40]

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Sorry if i came off as rude, about the good evil swap

as for the "History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes" i kinda want to hear more about it?
How did it go? was it 1 ancient Grimm being taken out by 1 strong fighter or just waves vs waves?

How did Remnant Fail at armies were the mess that was the 'Army scene' was considered better then just bombing from the air?

 

[cavalal386]

Sorry if i came off as rude, about the good evil swap

as for the "History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes" i kinda want to hear more about it?
How did it go? was it 1 ancient Grimm being taken out by 1 strong fighter or just waves vs waves?

How did Remnant Fail at armies were the mess that was the 'Army scene' was considered better then just bombing from the air?

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don't worry about it. you didn't come off as rude, i was just confuse about which part of my post you were replying to.

as for armies thing, i was thinking a mix of both. a few strong fighters sprinkled in, that's where Oz gets the idea of quality over quantity aka hunters, and waves after waves to take down Grimms, but that leads to many dead and those can't be recuperated easily, so he tried something different. although the main issues i was thinking about wasn't Grimms or Salem, but human error. like human greed sets in, they start to fighting each other instead of the grimms and them being to difficult to control, stuff like that is what cause Oz to drop the army idea. there is also the fact that Oz is both old, meaning it's difficult to change his mind as he's probably set in his ways, and a former Champion, meaning someone who has solo large groups of fighter himself, so it wouldn't be difficult for him to convince himself to return to the time of Champions, aka of small but elite group of warriors.

as for the 'Army scene', i want to begin by saying i dropped RWBY long before reaching that point, so i can only speculate. having said i will just point out that, from what i remember from history class, Napoleonic Tactics were used in WW1, so it wouldn't be far fetched to believed that Atlas, being the only one left with a standing army after the great war, never saw a need to upgrade their doctrine since then. as to why they didn't just bomb them from the air? allow me to addon to this:

Never attribute to malice that can be explained by incompedence

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and never attribute to incompetence that can be explained by arrogance.
remember Atlas was the only one with a standing army and were technologically advanced, they believe themselves to be invincible, they probably thought their army was enough to take on the grimms.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

It never made any sense to me for Atlas to have the only military so I usually just correct that and their organizational and doctrinal shortcomings. I don't like to write characters as idiots if they're NOT intended to be. Ozpin should be manipulative and cunning but I can't see any real advantage to humanity by limiting their ability to defend themselves.

 

[Bommel]

Ideas:

- So I saw this and thought, "Yeah, that's right, it doesn't make sense."

Spoiler: Jaune healing power meme

So Penny would have absolutely survived this, though likely have fallen into the Ever After with the others (personally I'd say with the RWBY team, Jaune getting thrown off earlier and Penny falling when the platform disapears, so Ruby doesn't have to go through the depression arc).

- Jaune is somehow extremely good at a massive amount of skills, most of which are quite unusual, like Jaune having forged his aplication form and did it so well that it's impossible to differentiate them from the real thing.
He's such a great master forger that Roman actually contacts him so he can forge something for a plan he got involved in (White Fang or Cinder).

 

[SharkCultist]

Idea: Roman didn't die when he got swallowed by that Grimm. Instead it carries him all the way back to Salem.

She's doing another Grimm experiment like the hound, only she wants this one to be evil more destructive. Pure uncontrolled evil.

She turns Roman into a goose Grimm.

 

[SharkCultist]

So a kind of undertale/deltarune inspired idea.

Rens semblance is a always active/passive one like Qrows. So he kinda just seems to ghost through life. Almost expressionless, nobody knows why he does what he does.

Does he actually see them as friends? Does he feel anything for them? And worst of all. Why is it when his aura breaks he starts screaming until his throat tears?

 

[The Brotherhood of Steel]

Jaune is in a bar celebrating his entry into Beacon when he meets a guy named Sam Guevenne who joins him in celebrating.

He then wakes up in the Imperial prison at the start of Oblivion.

Cue him going through the events of Oblivion before meeting Sam again and after another night of drinking he wakes back up in Remnant with only a couple of days passing but with his skills, equipment, magic, and knowledge. He starts to wipe a book about his journey.

Story is split between his time at Beacon and his adventure through Nirn which is gold through his friends reading the latest chapters of his book.

Jaune is sitting next to Blake during the night before initiation borrowing the light of her candle. Ruby looks over at him after asking Blake about her book.

Ruby: "What are you writing?"

Jaune: "A book about a dream I had where a young man is sent to a different world. It's not complete but I can read you some of it."

Ruby sits down and nods.

Jaune "I was born 87 years ago. For 65 years I've ruled as Tamriel's emperor, but for all these years, I've never been the ruler of my own dreams. I have seen the gates of Oblivion, beyond which no waking eye may see. Behold, in darkness, a doom sweeps the land. This is the 27th of Last Seed, the year of Akatosh, 433. These are the closing days of the third era, and the final hours of my life."

 

[CountvonBarnOwl]

Can I put out another ramble before the weekend ends and I commit myself wholly to finishing off my gacha game's event and writing out another NSFW Dragonslayer/Dragonslayer+ bit at some point? I think I can.

Hmmm.

While I am not well versed in the millitary formations as Count so passionately described and subsequently disassembled, I do realise that it's a fair point to make that Ozpin is trying to actively keep the power to himself by setting up examples that show his way is the correct way.

In fact in the eyes of an immortal wizard who has been there since this creation of Humanity, what is the worth of hundreds or thousands if Humans when the outcome is that the world is "united" against a common enemy following his own plans and schemes?

While Ozma is constantly patient and supportive, how much of that is his genuine self and how much of that is his learned instinct.

He sacrificed the stored magic for Oscar but for an immortal, what is the worth of time if he knew that magic is going to inevitably recharge.

Even his words to Oscar saying that he was doing good enough without him seem disingenuous considering that tge reason he got into this mess was him being his vessel.

In fact I am still not over the fact that Ozma probably knew about Jaune and the Rusted Knight because if you look back to it, it makes no fucking sense to admit him to the institute unless you knew he was integral to your plans.

RK became the equivalent of Statue of Chivalry for Huntsman and based on him Ozma was able to let people become government employed Mercenaries.

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But first off, thank you for articulating so many of the questions that bug me concisely.

Now, on with the show.

First off I wonder, Talon, do you or anyone else suppose that Jaune or family have that barrage of five+ middle names that royals and aristocrats so often have? I went from thinking about Ace Combat to this and I'm like what would happen if Jaune, instead of the usual middle names referencing his VA or other RT characters played by the same had to sign his name something to the tune of Jaune Jeanne Gallia Lancelot Gawain Mordred Charlemagne Roland Astolfo Bradamante Melusine Nicholas Radien Orleans Burgundy Arturia Ciel I. Arc. And of course, some of the others see his full signature. Or Cinder & Friends are trying to hack Jaune's account or communication logs at the CCT and cannot get in because they need his name and number and he has more names then they and all of the relatives that they actually knew did combined

The gag I went with was pretty obvious. Also, I was only kind of particular about the order with Arthurian characters coming before Matter of France characters and aside from Gallia places come before great grandparents. I'm also assuming that all Arcs by blood have Jeanne as their first middle name. Therefore Nora calling him Jaune-Jaune is perfectly accurate. Nicholas isn't a reference to his father, it's a different ancestor. And I recently learned that under Duke Charles the Bold that Burgundian archers were issued greatswords as a sidearm.

And speaking of weapons, I wanted to drop a blurb about gun calibers on Remnant. I think the average Remnant dweller is a bit more used to big guns than we are so I'm throwing out a bit of fanon for your guys' benefit and based off of some general assumptions I make about the world. So if you want to flesh out the guns of Remnant and Ruby as a hobbyist, engineer, and armorer I can help.

The most ubiquitous round, don't be fooled by the name, on Remnant is the 9.5x72mm Huntsman & Huntress, this is the modern iteration popped out in the decades subsequent to the Great war, but comparable bullets and calibers. But it is the bare minimum to guarantee a kill on a Beowolf if shot center mass at say... 200 to 300, maybe 200 to 400 meters.

Of course some of you might have recognized the dimensions and the name and guessed its real world inspiration already, that, of course, being the .375 Holland & Holland Magnum. Sitting near the uppermost of the Medium Bore rifle chamberings (.338"/8.6mm - .378"/9.5mm) rounds weighing between 17 & 23 grams moving at 700 - 800 m/s can putting out (on average) 5.5 to 5.9 kilojoules of energy at the muzzle (although recent advances in ballistic sciences have enabled companies to boast their .375s of comparable weight can travel 810 - 850 m/s and put out 6.3 to 6.4 kilojoules at the muzzle) but let's just focus on the bog standard H&Hs that everybody knows. Weight 17 - 23, velocity 700 - 800, energy 5.5 - 5.9. This is the bare minimum required for dangerous game hunting under Kenyan law. So if the charging rhinoceros, lion, or elephant (now with a personal grievance) does not finish you off because you shot it with a gun too weak to punch through its hide, the prosecutor will get you for your technical (if ill-fated) attempt at poaching.

I bring this up because I think there is a genuine safari hunting aspect to combat against the Grimm. Speed is always what defeats armor, but punching through thick animal hide depends also on sectional density (mass/cross-sectional area). And I think the development of firearms technology on Remnant would reflect that. I mean, if you want to go this route, ditch those rhombuses that the Atlesian army is always seen using (as well as the abominations but I will get to those later) and give them something like a (slightly) upscaled Colt Monitor (basically a BAR with a shortened barrel, a lightweight receiver, and an integrated recoil compensator) and developing something like that for however long battle rifles have been a thing on Remnant.

Yes I said battle rifles, not assault rifles, battle rifles (the difference being assault rifles fire intermediate cartridges (i.e. the 5.56x45 NATO, the 7.62 x 39 and 5.45 x 39 Soviet, the 7.92 x 33 Kurz, and the 10.4x43 Vetterli if you play Hunt Showdown - generally bullets with sub-50mm cases) as opposed to full rifle rounds which are 50mm or longer) a minute but important distinction to draw. As I do think gun tech did not develop along the same lines on Remnant as it did on Earth. The assault rifle was invented in the 1940s when Germany, wanting to give the infantry widespread automatic fire capabilities, but realizing that the FG42 was complex to manufacture, difficult to maintain, and horribly balanced all on top of the fact that managing the recoil of a battle rifle is very difficult without considerable strength, a bipod mount, a built in compensator, or a prohibitively heavy gun realized that since most gunfights took place within 200 meters, maybe a 7.92x57 that could reach out 500 to 1000 meters depending on what optic you're using was just a lot of mass and extra recoil. chop off 14mm, you get the Kurz and with it the Sturmgewehr 44.

Now that isn't to say Remnant wouldn't hit on assault rifles eventually. They are very useful in cities where the long barrels that full rifles need to achieve complete powder burn are an encumbrance, recoil is still an issue, and you have overpenetration to think about. So it follows that they should build a close range anti-personnel rifle to compliment their longer range anti-Grimm man portable weapon systems. I have in my head an encounter for Ruby in timelines where Raven shacks back up with Taiyang at some point during Ruby and Yang's childhood and the family get exposed to the cluster of looney toons that are the Branwen OCs I thought up and one of them, a gun nut who quickly bonds with her and makes Tai want to put effort into repairing his relationship with Raven because now young Ruby has a big cousin who unironically think she is cool. This guy straight up tells her that anyone carrying anything less than a .375 is more interested in killing people than killing Grimm. And this, of course, drives her to make Crescent Rose an anti-material rifle chambering something in the 14mm range. Big bullets can screw up people too, but small bullets, if I have the mark, cannot really do a lot against Grimm.

Unless, suppose, you have a lot of them, and you spec them out for high velocity. Under a barrage a few will get through eventually, right? And speed defeats armor. Sure the bullets will fragment, shear, or break up and essentially cause internal spalling (which would be catastrophic for the Grimm if they had organs like we do) and generally more holes will do at least as good a job as big holes, if not better more often than not. And that is true generally, for us. But on Remnant the Grimm outnumber Humans and Faunus comically, and every shot that is not a kill is, functionally, a shot wasted. For the normies at least, Huntsmen and Huntresses have the excuse of shooting to maneuver and propel themselves for positioning. And the Huntsman/Huntress will still have access to close combat, which for the stronger of two parties is a force MULTIPLIER once it can be achieved. They have weapons and Aura for the Grimm that they cannot out-grapple, and that is to say nothing of their Semblances.

But that is enough for now. Count doesn't have the time or energy to talk about the abomination tonight or what Count thinks Ruby would do to Weiss, her family, or the SDC if she found that that the lattermost was issuing the abomination to its security forces as standard.

-->Whiter Rose idea: Ruby sees the abominations and decides to commandeer Whitley to get them replaced with proper weapons. Or, if Whitley knows anything about firearms himself, he swaps them with proper weapons and gives the rest to Ruby to be used as targets, scrap, or donated to Beacon and the other academies as an example on what not to do when designing a gun.

Other housekeeping matters? Grimm armor strength and thickness. If you really want your Grimm to be threatening make their armor harder than steel. I thought on it and settled on a ratio of 11mm Grimm bone = 13mm RHA. If you want your Grimm to still be viable threats but maybe not that overwhelming just flip the numbers 13mm Grimm bone = 11mm RHA. Interestingly, 11mm RHA can be penetrated by the .50BMG (which is what I assume Crescent Rose shoots until we get a training/upgrade arc where she modifies it into a 14-15mm and I have a few ideas for that) out to 1000 meters. Now, if you want a comparison to the .375 to know just what kind of a monster the .50 is You're looking at a 45 - 52 gram projectile doing 890 to 910 m/s with an average muzzle energy between 18.9 and 20.2 kilojoules.

Count hopes you enjoy his rambles as much as he enjoys rambling.

 

[Gur40]

Superman! Jaune

Spoiler: Now we Need Batman! Whitley

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Neo being Ruby Rival after Roman Death

Spoiler: Cinder Who?

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I Love The Idea of Pyrrha Mom Being A Film Man

Spoiler: Pyrrha Being Only Behind Ruby In Being A S D

 

[mgl1206]

Here's an idea, so since we know that semblances can awaken after first activation, what were the initial semblances the adults first awoke? Glynda's is rather obvious I'd say, her telekinesis was for more limited and could only be directly applied to a singular object. It was after her second awakening that she dropped the melee portion of her combat as her semblance allowed her to split her focus and control hundreds of items at once.

(That or the ability to repair stuff from the pressures of being a teacher/deputy headmistress.

Ohhh or maybe that's the second part that awakened because she wanted to fix either her team that broke after they fractured (one of theirs got killed) or heal the student teams who lost their member/s on missions.

Ooohhh or thirdly, trauma from the fall of Mt. Glenn)

Anyway, what might have been the other adults' semblances before they evolved?

 

[SharkCultist]

Here's an idea, so since we know that semblances can awaken after first activation, what were the initial semblances the adults first awoke? Glynda's is rather obvious I'd say, her telekinesis was for more limited and could only be directly applied to a singular object. It was after her second awakening that she dropped the melee portion of her combat as her semblance allowed her to split her focus and control hundreds of items at once.

(That or the ability to repair stuff from the pressures of being a teacher/deputy headmistress.

Ohhh or maybe that's the second part that awakened because she wanted to fix either her team that broke after they fractured (one of theirs got killed) or heal the student teams who lost their member/s on missions.

Ooohhh or thirdly, trauma from the fall of Mt. Glenn)

Anyway, what might have been the other adults' semblances before they evolved?

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Huh. You know that makes me think of Ozpin/Oscars kinetic storage semblance.

It's honestly very fitting for Ozpin. Using the passage of time and accumulation to gain strength.

But also it's a kinetic ability, it doesn't have to be outright destructive it could also be used to push others away. Which seems fitting for a immortal. Don't get too attached.

 

[The Brotherhood of Steel]

So there's a sub genre of 40k fics called tiny/toyhammer where the idea is that 40k factions arrive on modern earth but as the scale of their minis.

So the idea is that Jaune is into 40k but didn't get to play it much in his hometown so mainly collected and painted several factions. However now that he's in Beacon he can play more at the game stores in Vale so has his family ship his armies to him.

Cue him being shocked when he enters his team down to find them alive and fighting each other. Now he has to keep the peace and prevent his friends and the professors from finding out.


Nearly got caught again today.

It started when I sat down at the library to study only to discover that some of the Blood Ravens stowed away in my book bag because they wanted pick out some books.

Of course that was the exact moment Coco decided to stop by to thank me for dealing with Cardin on behalf of Velvet. I don't know what the hell the Drukhari and Flesh Tearers did but outside of class he keeps to himself in his room.

Luckily, the magpies knew the drill and struck a pose before locking their armor to disguise themselves as minis.

Of course Coco noticed them and commented on the librarians armor being a tacky shade of blue. This lead to him setting her uniform on fire when her back was turned. When she finally noticed it was too late to save it. Thankfully she wasn't hurt though.

Also pink with lace for those wondering.

 

[SharkCultist]

Don't let the toaster fuckers find Penny.

 

[NightDranzer]

Don't let the toaster fuckers find Penny.

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Hey, in their defense; toasters CAN be sexy. See exhibit A.....

 

[cavalal386]

... wot?

 

[mgl1206]

... wot?

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She's an android/AI or somehow artificial and is sexy, toaster being a euphemism for machine in this case. So he's showing a sexy machine for the mechanicus to… well you get the idea.

 

[cavalal386]

She's an android/AI or somehow artificial and is sexy, toaster being a euphemism for machine in this case. So he's showing a sexy machine for the mechanicus to… well you get the idea.

Click to shrink...

thank you, that clears it up.
i was confuse because i thought that she was an actual toaster, not an euphemism.

 

[zMADLAXz]

Guys can we not talk about freaking clankers here? The only good one was Penny.

 

[Handspan]

Now I want to see Penny get offended when someone calls a Roomba a clanker.

 

[SharkCultist]

Now I want to see Penny get offended when someone calls a Roomba a clanker.

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Make it Blake. Because I want to see her reaction when Penny says

"I didn't know you were a racist!"