With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Cornwall Boy has picked up the Jack Aetheron (14th level lore bard/tomelock) style of conversation. Nice one Rob.

Now call it a cunt, in Draconic.

 

Back online at last and quickly skimmed the thread to catch back up. I'll get onto proofreading the posts I missed live soonish...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

My first mage slayer hits its left hand, causing a slight shift in its flesh before its fiery breath obscures it.

Ooooh, right in the cloaca.

Often hyphenated (counter-charge) but also fine as one word. Up to you, as always

Dammit, dragon-aura!

"They put their soul into an object. It means their body doesn't interact right-"

My armour is damaged, but not in a disabling way.

Dammit, Canis!

DAMMIT, CANIS!

Well, hopefully she calms down at the threat. More likely she escalates, goes berserk and someone gets hurt hard.
I'm guessing OL couldn't find a way to mention the phylactery before Cornwall did, or did he not remember that detail?

 

I believe the word you want is Tiamat.

 

Probably not the Starfire fisting scene that some people were hoping for...

 

Thank you, corrected.

Completely forgot about it.

I dunno. Around here...

 

They'd mostly still want the other Starfire to be the one fisting the dragon.

 

As promised, those corrections (and some commentary) from the days I was offline. Spoilered for the sake of length:

Spoiler: Hoard (part 11)

...built of stone long before humans settled those parts of Europe.
(Unless she has a strong accent?)

Odd word choice on 'used to' but I'm guessing Natural Speech applies...

"My scan of the one Ms Vadim stabbed suggests...

A missing word in here, or something like that? Definitely something amiss.

Spoiler: Hoard (part 12)

That would make sense: a giant reptile would require large amounts of food which wouldn't be...
(Or 'a large amount', whichever you prefer.)

Ah, he's finally becoming genre-savvy!

It glowers at us for a moment and then bolts for freedom.

"No matches found. However, records on the residences of minor magic users are extremely limited."

Spoiler: Hoard (part 13)

Disguised as a simple ring of mushrooms near a menhir...
(Credit to Vaermina, he spotted it first. I suspect you didn't notice his post?)

First time I've ever heard of the term. Nice.

"I meant, you and me. I've got the time now, I could use more practice flying at high altitude, and I've been studying the spells involved."
(American english, noun and verb have same spelling, according to Google at least)

Something usually left out of RPG depictions of dragons...

After this mission's over I'm going to...
Still good to see he wasn't quite 'harem anime protagonist' levels of dense, but still...

Canis's mental stress clearly hasn't helped him comprehend...

Spoiler: Hoard (part 14)

Zatanna nods. "Their first line of defense is secrecy.
(American English again)

Spoiler: Hoard (part 15)

"Something's affecting our team mates' minds."

...impaling the first wave of mutant gnome reinforcements.
(Usually pluralised, unless you prefer it as is?)

Zatanna blinks, then turns to frown at the Star Sapphire.

Yeah, that's the second-worst kind of 'crazy girlfriend' mode. Yandere being the first.

Spoiler: Hoard (part 17)

Doubled word.

Extraneous 'the'.

If I haven't listed a chapter here, I couldn't find any errors others haven't already noted.

 

Hm... if language has some sort of power/ magic (does it in DC?, it’s such a widely used trope), and Cornwall Boy absorbs magic, can he learn Draconic by listening to it/ absorbing it? I mean, probably not, but...
Edit: actually no, that’s not what his power is, otherwise he would be able to cast any spell he absorbs back out.

 

Thank you, corrected.

This marks the start of Robert getting a feel for fae magic. He will have to do a lot more study before he can use it.

 

Key word: mostly

 

Probably either the first one should be "-destroying it-" if he's being interrupted by the action, or the second one should be "Or undoing the spell." if it's being added as an afterthought.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Different ways of doing things may be more effective than others. It's just that Cornwall Boy's way of doing things is better for this particular situation than Paul's.

 

In DC, at least in Vertigo, according to the Books of Magic, magic is a language- the language of the universe. In short, the operating code. The name is the thing, as per Egyptian myth, change the name, change the thing.

Wildstorm seems to have a similar view of magic, since the same power that made Drummer a technopath made him a magician. "Magic is the cheat codes of the universe" is how Drummer explained magic.

New Earth didn't have a unified explanation for magic as far as I'm aware.

 

It occurs to me that this has significant implications about the nature of life, souls, and magic in this setting.

In D&D, liches aren't invulerable. They can just create a new body for themselves given some time if their existing body is destroyed. They're harder to destroy in the first place because they don't have the vulnerabilities of living things, but brute force still works (at least temporarily).

But on Earth 16, our only example of a living being without a soul was exceedingly vulnerable to just about everything, and a number of almost-living beings without souls are likewise still just corporeal matter.

 

I'm reminded of in the very beginning of OL's time with the team, where Kid Flash suggested that OL was the weakest one there. OL countered, with a little Kid Flash fluffing, that he felt he could defeat any of them but Kid Flash.

These days I have very little confidence in OL when fighting breaks out, so it's almost like Kid Flash was right all along. I mean Ring: Make gun, isn't even working anymore.

 

I counter by pointing out that the fights where this isn't a problem aren't narratively interesting and probably largely happen off-camera, with the words being dedicated to the stuff that's actually worth reading.

When he gets to choose his own missions, I'm sure he also picks the ones that are likely to challenge him. He's not the type to want to cherry-pick the easy ones.

 

I counter-counter by pointing out that every time OL runs into anything with a speck of magic, he ranges from mostly ineffectual to completely helpless and getting his ass kicked.

Or it's somehow super tougher then usual, and just walks right through everything he throws at it.

At this point, I'm actually expecting someone like Ambush bug to to show up and explain that every foe in the universe is getting tweaked behind the scenes to be the perfect foil to him, and him alone.

He just had his entire planet locked down, and was murdered as easily as a Marine killing a baby. I'd really expect this "I don't want to break things." attitude to get rethought.

Then again, his death and revival doesn't even seem to matter to him.


I, myself, find the plucky underdog, outmatched, on the backfoot and desperately punching up until the plot gods grace him/her with victory to be the dullest thing in fiction.

 

Though it is an example that Paul really needs to develop a method to counter magic that doesn't rely on brute force or magic slayers since those aren't always very effective against all forms of magic.

 

additionally, Cornwall Boy had just been siphoning off some of the Dragon's magic, weakening it while empowering himself.

 

Ah, darn it.

Just remembered that I've forgotten Lantern Xor.

You know you've got too many named characters when...

 

Well, if you remembered Ze, xir, and Zur, you might not have gotten into trouble at SV.

 

He is wasting his time on trial... Or its that over already? How many months its been? Also one would think he was in the background involved when Heaven attacked earth.

 

this is the first time i felt the urge to reach through the screen to shake someones hand, because fuck me that was clever.

 

So, are both Match and Xor gonna show up soon? Even just one chapter for each of them, Xor getting off scot free and Match waking up and learning to be a real boy or something.

If the latter does happen, he'll probably be spending more time with Superman, Superboy, and Kara than anyone else, maybe Wonder Woman too.

 

After 3 months of being able to read a full forum page a day. I just realized how long this must have been updating for now.

I sincerely, appreciate the good story, the only regret I have is not starting sooner because there were some theological points a couple story-lines ago I would have enjoyed debating. (and correcting, because one is a very common misunderstanding among people because of the unusual nature of what happened.)

 

I do my best.

 

And I'm supposed to care about the "rules" of a crappy children's cartoon show because?

 

Because if science can defeat magic (head on, without doing something clever) it’s not actual magic. This applies to a lot of fiction. About the only thing of actual relevance I can come up with. It’s kind of the counterpoint of “sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” - “if technology is insufficiently advanced, it is distinguishably worse than magic.”
Though that’s still not necessarily very relevant.