With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Krona’s mistake consisted of watching the universe form via a giant hand. What if the end of the universe ends with a giant hand? Particularly in a Big Crunch scenario in which all matter is compressed into a single point.
From the outside the edge of the universe might look like a giant hand... but perhaps from the inside it looks like the Source Wall.

Also does anyone else think that Dr Sivana Sr. might have gotten dragged to this timeline too?

 

Probably not a Big Crunch scenario considering that Zoat said at least one of us guessed correctly, but if we didn't know that I'd say it was certainly a possibility.

Neat idea too.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Grayven hasn't met anyone like that.

It was a bit more than that. The Guardians knew that watching the origin of the universe would make things go horribly wrong, he knew it would, but he went ahead and did it anyway.

 

Siege!

Siege!

Siege!

Siege!

Siege!

Siege!

 

Looks like someone collapsed the universe.

Guess this means that Grayven is shit out of luck and now has to face circumstance that is completely and utterly beyond his control.

 

It's a comicbookverse Vaer, insurmountable odds/challenge just means that the protagonist 'winning' is inevitable.

Big Crunch has nothing on Big Gray! Come on Grayboi pull on that shonen power up! Your fairy friends... er... allies by necessity(?) depend on you!

 

Given that this is apparently a New God it may not be Starbreaker, but it may be an evil version of Superman one million, or at least someone that stole his powers.

I think that in the comics that version of Supes studied the Source, so that could explain the New God thing.

On the other hand Starbreaker could have somehow become a New God, or at the very least he got powerful enough to do something to the Source Wall that it's near Earth and the New God readings that Mother Box was getting were just from the Wall and not the guy that did it, unless he's somehow draining the Source energy from the Wall, which given that he's an energy vampire is possible.

 

Okay..... can anyone help with something, I keep reading about the 'beetle', but honestly what is it?

 

The booster beetle is what happens when you use a leaf stone on one of these.

 

It's either:

Spoiler: this

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or possibly

Spoiler: this (just with a rocket sticking out of its ass)

If it's the second I think Grayven is using it as a jetpack.

 

Oh wow, this is actually fascinating.

It seems most likely that the Universe has shrunk to the point that only Sheeda Earth & the Vampire sun is left. I never would have expected that.

Grayven can't exactly do anything to the Source Wall. One touch and it's game over for like 99.9% of all DC characters.

If they break through even a small piece though, they could probably use one of the Forces behind it to get back to their time.
Sage Force to invent a time machine/ teleport back to the past?
Still Force to accelerate the Universe, hoping for a cosmic reset, and just waiting to catch up 14 billion years later?
Strength Force to control time through intense gravity manipulation?

Or maybe make a deal with an outside of time Invader to piggy back on their trip to modern Earth? A Dark Multiverse plot would be interesting, even though this version of DC would get stomped hard.


Honestly, at this point, they might just have to wait to get rescued.

 

Where's Superboi when you need him. He'd be able to punch his way through the Source Wall with his memetic reality warping punch and save them all singlehandedly! He might even be able to punch his way through time back into the past (present?).

What? Nazigirl could so I don't see why Superboi couldn't?

 

I wasn't aware he was an imperial fist

 

Welp, I've got a new favorite video for the next few days.

 

While it would be interesting to see those things in this story they are part of the n52, and Zoat generally doesn't use much from those comics.

 

Agreed.

Besides, this would be anti climatic.

 

Perhaps this is a Britishism, but over across the pond, "dingy" means "dirty" in the manner of something ill-maintained.

 

How many New God thingies we know that can drain the life force of planets? I mean besides grandpappy who was famously stuck on the wall and it's pant-shitting terror causing ?

 

I think that in the comics it was mentioned that Darkseid steals the power from conquered pantheons.

In the n52 comics he was shown as stealing the powers of the Old Gods and later on he apparently drained Zeus of some of his power when they fought.

 

Yea, but I was talking about Yuga Khan, the guy that was locked on the source wall, the same guy that can drain the life force of planets

 

I know, and you also asked about other New Gods that can drain life force, and I thought of Darkseid.

And Darkseid may also be capable of this, seeing as in that comic where he fought Galactus he told him that Apokalips has no energy for him to feed on.

This could mean that he either drained the energy using his powers, or at least equipment, or that Yuga Khan did that.

The sun apparently became like this a long time in the future so it's possible that Darkseid grew powerful enough to do it.

On the other hand given that Yuga could apparently drain planets and the Source Wall being here, yeah I'm now getting some strong vibes that this might be granpappy Yuga.

 

This wouldn’t happen in a world where the Sivanas don’t exist until later. Also, engtrepreneur build has minions. He’s just send a bunch of his employees at the problem

 

So if his favourite grandson just asked him to stop (or at least to let them pass) nicely he'd do it?

 

Why of course!

But not before he shows renegade some games he used to play with his son, little Uxas, like 'How many punches can you take before your jaw breaks'!

Apokaliptian family bonding, truly it is beautiful, from a sadists point of view anyway.

 

A) Zoat doesn't like that origin for Starbreaker, so he's unlikely to use it. Writer's prerogative, after all.

B) Why wouldn't a sun-eater have genetics? They are animals, part of the Red.

In one comic, Buddy, with basically got to go "I have the power to emulate the powers of animals, unfortunately for you there's a Sun-Eater a couple of solar systems over. This has been your pre-asskicking one-liner."

 

Huh, didn't know either of those, thanks for the info. The reason I didn't think they had genetics was because of the image DC Database uses for them, they're just amorphous blobs of pure darkness, so I'd assumed they were some kind of energy being.

 

It's amazing that not long after this was posted a new long awaited episode was released. I think there's a word for these kinds of happy coincidences, but I can't remember what it is.

 

Divine Intervention, for The Man-Emperor protects!

 

And like this episode it features evil elves.

Along with both this story and that episode having the power of friendship destroy evil, well damage it in the case of TTS.

 

Not enough Hams here though. Also spoilers, I haven't watched the episodes yet.