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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker, Rookie Proofreader

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    And given how powerful she is now, who knows how she'd help you adjust? Can you bring yourself to trust her with that level of access to your mind? Who knows how she'd react to the memories' content? Having her collapse screaming in horror might not be the best showing...

    Heh, this reaction she knows how to deal with. Probably feels comforting.. in a disturbing way.

    Not squishy enough? :D

    Man, they must be worrying hard right now, inside. bet it's triggering all kinds of warning bells for Mind Control...

    Sounds like someone ordered her access revoked. Batman, of course. Who else would be wary of letting her run kind-of free?

    Yes, but those would not exactly be friendly. And he's trying not to piss Batman off, right now, is he?

    She's become used to being obeyed. So when something actually obeys her, her Godhead is soothed. We've seen something similar with Grayven dominating a foe into submission, haven't we?

    Boy, Wally really has been neglecting his New God aspect, hasn't he? Mr Zoat said he didn't really care about the metaphysical aspects... And now I get the feeling that will bite him in the arse someday.

    Boy, thinking like a Sheeda really left her in a weird headspace, didn't she? Her mind is a twisty knot of logic now. I bet M'Gann would get a headache trying to follow her train of thought, or have it feel like a roller-coaster...

    Do you rule anything, bird-boy? No? Then shut up and come back in a millennium.

    Time out, before someone gets hurt, huh? I see this Robin will be inheriting his mentor's paranoia...

    You know, one thing Worm got right was the concept of Master/Stranger protocols. Having a system for identifying unusual or out-of-character behaviour is such a useful thing... Even if it occasionally leads to long time-outs when you encounter out-of-context problems. Like big, fluffy white wolves, or little pink gems that talk...

    Only two? Give him credit, Robin. Grayven wouldn't get out of bed without five ways to dominate an opponent. Never mind what his rings can do. :D

    Ah, a rare chance for us to see Grayven from the outside. And at least Artemis can feel a little worried that she's thinking like that.

    At least she knows Grayven has her back no matter what. Some people never find that kind of friend.

    Ah, seeing Robin indulge his paranoia against the bulwark that is Grayven. It gives you such a feeling of schadenfruede...

    Ah, it's the little things. Love the way she just knows how he'd mess with Robin...

    More fuel for the paranoia, eh? Be careful, Grayven, or you'll turn Robin into the next Question...

    And once you've done that, there's not much that could scare you in a fight. Settling back into your old life, though? I bet Ringnestro would find the fear fascinating.

    Hey, it's scarier in the dark. Where most of the people he's taken on find out what sort of person they really are. And it's usually the sort who wet themselves, scream, maybe even faint... Compare the Sixties' series Batman, who ran about in broad daylight in light grey and blue.. To the Burton Movies' Batman, who operated solely at night in jet black (which would honestly impair stealth, bu hey) and was so rarely seen before the movie that at least one artist's impression was of a snarling beast-man.

    It's fun watching Grayven schmooze people into frustration. Now we get to watch it from someone else's point of view.

    Seriously, the DCEU (what an ugh name) got one thing right about Batman: The voice changer tech works so much better than a man basically destroying his vocal chords trying to speak in growls...

    Though by that point, the Castle would be on its guard. That's probably why Batman did it.

    Thankfully, this isn't the ultimate paranoid Bat-god who would probably know anyway because he'd have Challenger Mountain bugged six ways to Sunday...

    :rolleyes: Come on, Batman, you know any mission Grayven takes on usually ends in flames and screaming anyway. Why are you so surprised?

    And don't think Man-dressed-as-a-bat hasn't noticed that subtle instinctive teamwork between them... The question is, what does he think of it?

    I'm guessing he was allowing Artemis time to get her thoughts in order to go over the sequence of events. Because he wasn't expecting the whole 'centuries spent in the future' thing, was he?

    And that's just going to cement the 'mind-control' thing in their heads even more. :( One more wedge in the crack between Artemis and the Team...

    At this point, I bet Artemis is feeling more than a little frustrated here, I bet. There's a clear streak in her thoughts that they're treating her like the bad guy, if you look at it. Honestly... It's like Batman is trying to drive her into Grayven's camp.




    ...Wally waves his arms up and down between us.
     
  2. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    None of those other characters have spent hundreds of years under the yoke of Renagades conquest aura.

    And to be perfectly honest the others would be right to suspect at least some level of mind control going on with both how she's acting and her refusal to let Miss Martian go through her head.
     
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  3. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    I mean, can you really say sending Artemis in backfired? Wasn't she pretty important to Grayven actually being able to defeat the universe eater and get back home?

    Sure, it wasn't planned for, but I got the impression Grayven would have remained trapped in the future without her coming along for the ride. Or even killed if that final fight had been 1 vs 1 instead of 2 vs 1.

    Why, it was unintentionally brilliant.
     
  4. Darko

    Darko Experienced.

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    He rules the ability to make weird words.

    They also made the Aquaman suit actually look cool.

    They've only just started, so maybe don't judge them so soon.

    They also probably never dealt with something like this before, a member being away for centuries and forming a god bond with someone else, so they may not know what to do.
     
  5. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Yup. Without Artemis Renagade would have died horribly.
     
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  6. Nioz

    Nioz Know what you're doing yet?

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    Oh wow, that was so long ago and yet it feels like yesterday. I remember coming to that chapter, seeing where it was heading and then pausing to go grab a coke and a bag of crisps (I was reading through a 10 chapter backlog and that was like the 3rd or 4th one); it was a delicious treat watching that explosion.

    See, I actually don’t think she is, and more importantly the fact that Bats didn’t bring in Scott and Barda may mean that he also doesn’t think so. Does he believe that Artemis might be compromised in other ways? Perhaps, but I don’t think he believes it to be mind control. Not to say he won’t be checking for it anyway, but still!
     
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  7. Agent Orange

    Agent Orange Versed in the lewd.

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    Ah but you're forgetting she had a few centuries of her own Grayven-free offscreen character development/metaphysical weightlifting. How could you Vaer! /s

    I agree. Thou to be fair I don't think Arty would be super jazzed about letting a telepath into her head even before her Future AdventuresTM even if the telepath in question was a friend (which at this point most definitely isn't the case from Arty's perspective - she barely remembers M'gann).

    "Cola or cocaine?" Inquiring mind must know! And considering the chapter both were excusable.
     
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  8. Nioz

    Nioz Know what you're doing yet?

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    All I’ll say is that it was canned. Does that technically apply to both forms? Yes, yes it does :D
     
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  9. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    No, those are fine.
    True, but she couldn't prove it.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
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  10. Z3r0Sama

    Z3r0Sama Getting sticky.

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    When Renegade monologues to himself when he and Blackfire are towing back the missing parts of the Doomsday to Tamarans orbit, he says New Gods are immune too or are atleast immensely resistant to being influenced by the auras of fellow New Gods.
     
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  11. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    I am guessing you forgot that natural growth of that sort of thing requires ambient mana, which didn't really exist in Sheeda land until after they killed the Vampire Sun.

    Well, the only other option would be to have Scott take her, without Renegade, to New Genesis for a full soul enema.



    Yes, that was him lying, we know this because there was a section further back where Scott and Barda explained the effect his aura could have on other New Gods.
     
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  12. jasonh23761

    jasonh23761 Making the rounds.

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    I still go back and re-read that section when I need a smile. It's just so satisfying.
     
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  13. jasonh23761

    jasonh23761 Making the rounds.

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    Welp, that's a sentence I never thought I'd read.
     
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  14. Agent Orange

    Agent Orange Versed in the lewd.

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    Speaking of New Gods, how many of them are there on the Team? I'm not sure if Arty counts as 'on the Team' any more so lets exclude her for the moment. Who else has been New God-ed? Wally (technically, thou he only uses it for the metabolism/Speed streamlining perk), M'gann ('once you go Red...'), I think I remember Aqualad losing his gills and... who else?
     
  15. Darko

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    Aqualad, Wally, Zatanna, Artemis, Tao( but not by renegade ), the girl with the magnetic powers, were made into New Gods.

    M'gann technically isn't a New God, just a powerful Martian
     
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  16. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I can't believe I didn't make the connection between Batman and Corona until now...
     
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  17. Z3r0Sama

    Z3r0Sama Getting sticky.

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    No. Because he is saying that too himself. He certainly says Karsta and Tamarans are getting influenced by his Conquest aura as they have no metaphysical defense against it, but it either won't have any effect or will only have negligible affect on New Gods.
     
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  18. Khettien

    Khettien Perpetually confused

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    Most days, I think spite is what actually makes world go 'round, not money.
     
  19. Gantradies

    Gantradies Not too sore, are you?

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    one wonders if the apathy/relative lack of active work on Earth barring suspiciously post-emptive rightous face-puncher-ish damage control might be him being subconciously nudged-even if he originally had/has resistance/immunity, he's on radar in a BIG way now...
    i mean, you'd think you'd put a guy who's whole shtick is actively opposed to your goals near the top of your shitlist, not just....mentally file him away in the enhanced-memory equivalent of a filing cabinet in the basement of the regional council office...
     
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  20. Darko

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    He did ask Georgia, a super genius social scientist, to figure out a way to solve the whole 'not adapting advanced tech thing' Earth seems to have, so he already has someone working on it, but they still haven't gotten any results yet due to the Sheeda invasion taking up some of their time.
     
  21. Agent Orange

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    On one hand I'd call this very cheap on the other I really want some explanation for OL's radical character... change.
     
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  22. Hidden Variable

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    Artemis has a lot more in common with Diana than she does with the team at this point. She has more experience(Sort of? Combat, kingdom building, and elf ruling life experience at the very least) than most the the actual league(and ain’t that weird) at this point.
     
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  23. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Maybe Artemis should go ask her for advice and then she'll be Artemis' new "mentor", alongside Mister Miracle and Big Barda.
     
  24. Agent Orange

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    Does she? If anything she's Diana's senior (several times over). YJ Diana is in her mid to late 80s at this point. Artemis is... at least that old (if we take Grayven's most conservative 'decades' guesstimate at face value). She has every right to call Diana a 'whippersnapper'. Or maybe even a 'brat' depending on her 'tude.
     
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  25. AidanMorgan

    AidanMorgan Essentially Overworked

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    Was that a reference to that Worm/Okami crossover where Taylor is Amaterasu's shrine maiden? And people keep petting Ammy without realizing it?
     
  26. Joelseph14

    Joelseph14 Getting some practice in, huh?

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    "Yeah, no." I fold my arms across my chest. "I barely remember any of you people. I'm not doing anything with you without the person I trust most being here. This happens with Grayven here, or I'm out. Completely."[/QUOTE]
    Woop this is gonna be a great conversation
     
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  27. PDV

    PDV The Revelation That Uncertainty is Itself a Answer

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    I don't get it. Miming some British idiom?

    Gryaven
    Grayven certainly appreciated having her there and was better off for her presence. Earth, and she herself? Much less certain. Had Diana been there instead, it would have been better for everyone involved (and probably set another ship sailing).
     
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  28. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Not a bad ship.
     
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  29. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    You don't toss coins where you come from?
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  30. WereDragon

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    I wonder how Bialya is getting on. That sexist layabout still on top or did she get lynched while Grayven wasn’t paying attention?

    In fairness Queen Arty has been playing things extremely close to the chest. I would not be at all surprised if that was the first time she actually told any of the team that she doesn’t trust them.

    Also that Amazon who only appeared in two (possibly three?) updates. His pet Tiger who’s name I can’t recall at present.

    Then of course there is Grayven’s daughter, Lynne.
    Plus his scythe minion, Iname. As well as Circe.
    Not sure if Sunset Shimmer counts as she went through Alicornification rather than Awakening but the mirror suggests the two states are comparable. Not sure if she walks around on two feet or four but last we heard she was still on Earth.
     
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