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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. DrThoth

    DrThoth Not too sore, are you?

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    I didn't like the fact that he assimilated the resurrected Klarion instead of trying something else, since at that point he'd had his initial big Anti-Life crisis. He's backslid a bit in some ways, though I still think it's a good degree of development from earlier.
     
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  2. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Not quite true.

    There are the New Gods, which range from the likes of Darkseid and Highfather down to the guys who lick Darkseid's boots clean every morning.

    And the DC's answer to the Inhumans, an alien civilization that discovered scientifically how to give random superpowers, the Competalians, so their powers range from "holy crap" to "Are you sure that qualifies as a superpower?"

    Correction: The Alliance knows how to give out random superpowers, the bad guy, Anathema, who became tyrant, knows exactly how to give out exactly which superpowers she wants, with a side dose of slavery thrown in. Works on humans too.

    There are also the psychic Titans, who in one iteration are refugees from one of the shrunken Brainiac bottle cities, and their powers range from "activate my own adrenaline for a burst of minor superspeed and strength" to "I can use telekinesis to emulate Kryptonian powers because I'm a Superboy fanboy."
     
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  3. gustyeagle

    gustyeagle Know what you're doing yet?

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    No, I think its the other way around. Tangie-boy is so creepy, cringey, and unpleasant, it makes you root even more against him.
     
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  4. Radix

    Radix Getting out there.

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    It hasn't had much of an overall impact yet. But it set up that many Pauls know about each other, as well as the framework that can be developed in future story. We are only in season 5 out of 10 after all. I fully expect more multiverse stories. We haven't even met a Monitor yet, let alone the Anti-Monitor.

    I really hope we see Peter Wynn again. It may just be my love of the DCAU, but I found that setting with Peter very compelling. His Batman also is aware after the Crime Syndicate incident and already preparing. I don't expect him and Tangside are the only ones. Plus there are other Paulternates who have been off-screen who could have been there.

    Also isn't the Time Trapper position open now that Mandated Paul is back in his timeline?
     
  5. transhumansage

    transhumansage I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    god i love the teasing.
     
  6. Coda

    Coda I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I'm pretty sure the position was filled by someone else.
     
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  7. PDV

    PDV The Revelation That Uncertainty is Itself a Answer

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    Hey, at least she isn't fighting crime around in literal fetish gear...




    That's Black Canary's job.
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    Though TBF there are versions of Black Canary which aren't literally parading a collar which has no use, aesthetic or practical, beyond designating someone as a submissive. There's also the short-lived version from between when she ditched her original blond wig and when she grew her hair out and dyed it blonde. That one is instead trying her best to look like a professional domme and/or butch lesbian:
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    But to actually be fair, the Young Justice version could just be wearing her collar for the aesthetic. Her plausible deniability is intact.
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    But not her dignity. She still has the fishnets
    Still kinda annoyed people call him Tangseid rather than Evaul.
     
  8. LazySloth13

    LazySloth13 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Is it weird that I like seeing Tangseid because it has the SI, or an alternate version at least, spend time with one of the original members of The Team. Since Paragon and Renegade have both become distant due to their work, though Paul has it easier compared to Grayven, it nice to see some interaction between them.

    Plus it could be just me, or because the site is QQ, but honestly it isn't anything new where a SI tries hooking up with a 'fictional' character because of one reason or another. It seems that if Mr. Zoat were to never mention or allude to his real age, something most fan fiction writers tend to do, and make it seem Paul was in his twenties or younger then the outrage/distaste wouldn't be as powerful.

    Not to mention while having a super powered sociopath interested in you isn't the greatest turn of events but it could be worse, at least Tangseid seems to be the type to help her grow and reach her potential as a heroine, he just wants her more than most people consider appropriate.
     
  9. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    tbf Renegade spent quite a lot of time grinding murderous elves with Artemis not all that long ago in the future.
     
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  10. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Peter is the best Paul...

    Mainly because with all the powerups the others have gotten he's the most Intresting.
     
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  11. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    Oh, I hope Tangseid doesn't go multiversal. All of the "for your own good" DC tyrants can never be content turning their Earth into their idea of a utopia and end up trying to conquer alternate Earths and it never, ever turns out well for them.

    You already have an entire universe to conquer. Your own.If you still want to conquer things after you're donw with what you already have? THEN you can try to create a multiversal empire.
     
  12. Threadmarks: Back Door (part 1)
    Mr Zoat

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    Back Door

    6th July 2012
    22:12 GMT +2


    Mr. B'lanx looks out across the Bir Tawil desert.

    "It does look a little the surface of Mars. Though it feels a lot hotter."

    "Is it a problem for you?"

    His outline shifts as he assumes a humanoid shape and… Darkens his skin.

    "No. Becoming a Black Martian makes-" I wince inwardly. "-this a good deal more comfortable."

    "I thought the reason you didn't just go Green or Red was that other Martians could always tell."

    "Ways of thinking… Parts of our core psychological identity, are transferred in the womb. But if we're changed enough by our experiences that we think in ways unlike the Whites back home… Why not become something else?"

    "White pride?"

    "You proved that there's no real difference between the colours. If that's true, why should I take pride in result of a coin toss?"



    I need to get this guy off Earth, don't I?

    "What did you think about Colu?"

    "So much refined metal. I'd never seen so much in any one place before. And the animals were so… Tame. Constricted. On Mars the minds of the animals inside the rock are a constant presence wherever you go. In the one city I've ever lived in, anyway."

    Yes, a bit of a shame about Colu's entire biosphere. Nothing was ever allowed to go entirely extinct, but the planet has absolutely no 'unregulated' wildlife. No forests or jungles outside of parks where everything is monitored and controlled. The Computer Tyrants were in the process of shutting a lot of them down, but the biological Coluans appear to like them.

    "Do you miss them?"

    "When you're working long shifts and banned from most public places of entertainment, you learn to make your own fun. Taming animals, training them… It was a fairly common pastime."

    He gazes off towards the horizon for a few moments.

    "Why are there no humans here?"

    "The two neighbouring countries can't agree on who owns it. This is the part they both say that the other owns. Then Orange Lantern Manga Khan decided to build this trade post. We locked it down after he left and L.E.G.I.O.N. have been using it as an outpost. In the event of things working out differently on Mars I was planning on offering it to you."

    "That doesn't explain why this area is so empty."

    "Too hot, too dry, not enough natural resources. And no one wanted to pick a fight with me to break in during the gap between Khan leaving and L.E.G.I.O.N. arriving."

    "Ah."

    "So… As I said, you and your people are free to wander in the countries immediately abutting this territory, though you'll be expected to comply with local law. The L.E.G.I.O.N. fleet will be pulling out in a few weeks and your people will be able to travel with them then."

    The Earth is… Recovering, from the Sheeda. We've regained satellite coverage and have a full accounting of the dead. More or less. I… Remember an age-of-sail style science fiction story where after a major civil war ravaged human space the most powerful worlds left were places that had been minor colonies when the war happened. That was because everywhere larger was smashed flat by mass drivers and then chain nuked just to make sure. The only places that weren't were the places no one could be bothered to attack.

    Something not entirely unlike that is happening here, only it's the middle that was eliminated. Up and coming powers like Brazil-. Accalacan now, obviously, and India, were smashed. Large chunks of the population vanished, large pieces of infrastructure destroyed and government officials killed. India's.. actually undergoing an effective breakdown in central government, with minority Muslim and Sikh groups… Not pressing for independence so much as assuming it.

    The top tier nations that could defend their populations somewhat effectively were least affected physically but were so dependent financially on global systems that aren't working now that they're having to engage in major… 'Restructuring'. Confidence in money is at an eighty year low, barter has re-emerged in a lot of places and unemployment has spiked.

    The only real beneficiaries -other than the native tribes of South America, because even places outside of Accalacan are having to change their policies on that issue- are European farmers, who have found demand increasing both due to the difficulty in continuing imports and a new wave of government self-sufficiency initiatives. And even there, a lot of places have switched from tractors to horses due to the higher fuel costs, because the Sheeda were happy to target both oil wells and oil tankers.

    Thank goodness for Atlantis. Otherwise I'd find myself using the phrase 'oceanic apocalypse' to describe what happened to our fish stocks.

    "How do most humans feel about Martians?"

    "About the same as how you feel about the Ungarans."

    "The who?" … "Oh. But J'onn J'onnz has been on Earth for years?"

    "Yes, but humans aren't usually telepathic. Only a very small percentage of our population has met him, and he usually adopts a human shape so they wouldn't necessarily know that they had."

    "You don't have recording devices?"

    "Yes, but picture and sound recordings are less immediate than telepathic records of sensory inputs. It's not as… Real. We have a lot of strange people flying around; one saying that he comes from Mars doesn't mean anything special."

    "What about J'onn J'aarkn? Or M'gann M'orzz?"

    "Mister J'aarkn was known to be an actor, and most people assume the rest is a special effect. M'gann hasn't been here all that long. And they both came here individually with great difficulty. A few thousand people all at once are a rather different prospect."

    "Are they afraid of us?"

    "No, it's not that. Imagine… You lived in an all White neighbourhood?"

    "Yes."

    "Now imagine if Prince J'emm walked down your street. He doesn't believe in Neapolitanism, but he looks a lot like the people who do and he could get you in a lot of trouble if he wanted to."

    "Ah. I see."

    "If you go for a walk, you'll be the first Martian virtually anyone you meet will have met. So make an effort to make a good impression."

    "I will. And I think I will go for a flight now." He rises off the platform. "I'm not used to such freedom, and I doubt that I will have it as part of L.E.G.I.O.N."

    "Probably not." I wave as he pulls away. "Have fun!"

    "Is this how your days are usually spent?"

    I look around as Lantern Gozzi approaches from the base's interior.

    "Roughly. It's a very varied job. Are you staying on, or…" I hold out my right hand in a catching gesture. "Are you heading back to Amalak?"

    "Do you have any plans to fight Vril Dox?"

    "I don't. I would be astonished if Vril Dox the Second didn't. Why?"

    "Part of why I stayed in Vega was to avoid him and his minions. If he were killed, I would have considerably more latitude in my movements."

    "True. So do you want to head out with the fleet and find out what our Dox is planning before making a final decision?"

    "Yes." She holds up her ring and stares at it for a moment. "I do."
     
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  13. Twilight666

    Twilight666 Not too sore, are you?

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    Mr Zoat
    The threadmark for the story only thread is Bsck Door
     
  14. Vaermina

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    Yea... I imagine anywhere that wasn't North America was pretty heavily screwed by the collapse of Middle East oil production...
     
  15. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
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    Ahh, racial issues, an uncomfortable topic for most people.

    Now I'm wondering if the whole racism thing wasn't wholly the Guardians fault and the Reds somehow made it so that Martians were influenced in the womb to think they were superior.

    A surprisingly enlightened attitude from someone who seemed like he wanted to start a war.

    Granted the Nazis were also anti-smoking so someone being surprisingly enlightened doesn't mean they can't also be warmongers.

    Why?

    'animals'

    'has been using'

    'wander'

    'what is'

    'as much as'

    'at an'

    So if we are going to be seeing another alternate Paul this episode, which one will it be?

    I'm hoping for either the MCU one, the 90's X Men one that's dating Rogue, or for some reason that I can't fathom the Violet one in Twilight.
     
  17. Laundromat2.0

    Laundromat2.0 Getting out there.

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    Love seeing interesting new Orange Lanterns, and I'm looking forward to what Vril Dox II is planning. I think we can expect a lot of Coluan recruits in the future as he breaks out his 'public face'. And although I doubt he'll give Paul the satisfaction of a straight reaction, I bet he must at least a little shocked by just how fast Paul solved the formerly intractable problem of his entire species' enslavement. If that's not worth a raised eyebrow from the great Vril Dox II, then I don't know what is!

    And I'm interested in how the Martians will take to LEGION. Their vista is gonna be radically expanded, with so many different planets and species and minds. I wouldn't be surprised if they come out of it deciding that Mars needs to claim its birthright as a true interstellar civilization and bring that conviction with them when they go back. Seems like Mars and Earth will start going interstellar at somewhat similar times. Hopefully, it will be as allies and brothers under the same sun, and not as enemies. I don't think anyone wants to see an aggressively expansionist Mars. And honestly, with Paul being able to teleport a few fleets over in a pinch, that's a rather emphatic check on their ability to project power, no matter their individual combat prowess as a species.

    Really, Earth and Mars should start an exchange program.
     
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    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    Hm... Russia might be fine, depending on local politics since the breakdown of the USSR and whether officials in DC USSR were as corrupt as officials in the real world USSR. They have plenty of natural resources including massive reserves of oil, and, per Zoat, several competent superheroes and super weapons. They’re also possibly loose enough that if the Sheeda took over the main government the rest of the country might splinter into local independent states
     
  19. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    He'd happy start a war to get his due, but he doesn't want to start one just for the sake of it.
    Yes, it's generally unwise to conflate either all vices or all virtues.
    Thank you, corrected.
    I don't think these are correct.
    Funny you should say that.
     
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  20. Darko

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    Well...Now I'm nervous.
     
  21. Chojin Patriarch

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    Not quite like home. But similar enough for him to not feel out of place as much. Good choice. The fact it's ownership is unclear helps. Would be amusing if both nations fighting over it just decide 'fuggit, let the UN have it as a spaceport or something, with all the space aliens coming along!'

    Yeah, Mars is a cold desert, isn't it? And no, that's not an oxymoron. 'Desert' as a biome refers to local water.. density? Proximity? ..not the ambient temperature.

    Hey, at least he fits in better with the local populations. Even if he does loosely resemble J'onn J'onzz...

    Hence the possibility of other colours existing in the comics.

    ...He has a point. Fate could easily have borne him into a Green or Red family. Admitedly, he likely wouldn't be here if he were, but that's for Destiny's book.

    I imagine he'd inevitably blunder into causing some local racial trouble.

    Like birdsong... In your head. All the time... Even while trying to sleep. I suppose you'd adapt to it. Not surprised he'd find a place without constant telepathic chatter a little unnerving.

    To be fair, once you reach the level of urbanisation the Coluans did, and given their racial character, there'd be very little untouched nature left anyway.

    And, if food got a little scarce... Well, people do tend to keep chickens and the like in impoverished communities for that very reason.

    You know, you could always buy the region from the two countries, make it a proper L.E.G.I.O.N. facility?

    Not to mention whatever defences the outpost structures might have had. I know, they said they locked it down, but that doesn't mean they shut it down.

    And expand their mind. I hope they understand to be mindful of local customs. OL would have to be crazy dumb to leave them completely unattended, so I assume some L.E.G.I.O.N. personnel will be managing things...

    Or so heavily defended attacking would be suicide? Though when you can fling orbital KKVs and Nukes around, 'heavily defended' is relative.

    While commenting on specifics would probably break Rule 8, I'm guessing India is starting to break apart into smaller nations along racial and religious lines...

    You never realise just how much you import as a nation until international trade breaks down, do you?

    And few nations have their own oil wells to replenish stock. I expect there's a stronger push for alternative energy sources now, like Cosmic reactors or Bleed Torsion generators, eh? I would hope so, but... Corporate interests...

    Good question, given the average citizen seem to hardly know they exist.

    Yes, and he's a superhero. They're expected to have weird origins and backgrounds. Being an alien? Not the weirdest one out there.

    Heh, he's a smart one, B'enny is.

    A pornstar most people have never heard of (or claim not to!) and a teenage superhero with little to no public presence... Yeah...

    I picture all manner of commentators claiming 'It's an invasion, people! THEY say it isn't, but THEY lie!' complete with frothing at the mouth. The general public probably won't care much, unless the Martians walk down their street au naturel...

    So, there'd be an undercurrent of anger and dislike. Especially if it isn't known that he's anti-seperation.

    So, the face full of fangs should be saved for if some idiot tried to mug you, then.

    Wonder how he'll take things like jungles... Sure, Colu had parks, but I doubt he spent much time looking around back there... All that green...

    Lantern Gozzi? Did you swipe Amalak's offsider? Is it a permanent placement or a short trial period? Guess we'll see.

    The villain also known as Brainiac, Collector of Worlds, if you'll remember...

    I suppose she's not one for returning to Colu, then. Probably because rebuilding sound like someone she's not interested in.

    ...You did let Amalak know you've done this, right? Given your notice, and all that?

    An interesting surprise to end on. I wonder if he'll recruit other Coluans in future, given the performance of Clarissi Dox... And we're going to see a Marvel Alt!Paul this episode? Timely, given the release of Wanda-Vision and the beginning of MCU Phase Four... Bring him on!
     
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    "Not so much pressing for independence as assuming", or "not pressing for independence so much as assuming".
     
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    If Russia's stocks weren't destroyed then Europe might be ok if a little more Russian dependant than the US would like.
     
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    I think people are going to get a bit tired of corporate interests if it means they'll be vulnerable again after an attack and go with alternative methods.

    Granted Savage may actually profit from it since he's the one in control of the Cosmic Convertor tech, so sadly not everything will be fine with that idiot increasing his wealth and power.

    I bet she did, she wouldn't be the perfect assistant if she didn't inform her boss about seeking new employment.

    This promises to be one of the weirdest things Marvel has done.

    I can't wait to see it!
     
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    One thing that’s been bothering me is that for all we hear about how devastated the human civilisation is, we never see it, let alone feel it. There’s been literally zero tangible impact on OL from the current state of the world. There’s not one change in operating procedure, not one communique from the League to the team, no recounting of what humanitarian measures OL has undertaken, not even any second-hand discussion through his colleagues, or hell, the news,* only first-person exposition. It just feels like inconsequential setting flavour at this point, because we’ve never felt those consequences even second or third-hand.

    Maybe OL could help Holly and Karon or Harleen or Paula or a number of his acquaintances, just to throw out ideas.

    *unless I missed something.
     
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    Magenta Martians?
     
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    Wait, what?

    I knew there was an MCU one who adopted Rogue (or at least was in the process of doing so), but I don't recall a 90s X-Men version... and I certainly don't recall a version from Twilight unless he was only described in some conversation and not the main bits...

    If possible, which post(s) are these from?
     
  28. Fellow

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    Wait what? Dating? I thought he adopted her?

    Ninja'd
     
  29. Darko

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    The one that adopted Rogue is from the Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon.

    There is another version in the Cinematic universe who created SWORD and is using the Power Stone to recharge.

    Zoat made a mention a few chapters ago about a version who ended up in the 90s cartoons and is dating Rogue, who is an adult, and that he met his Avengers counterpart and both were creeped out a bit.

    He also mentioned a Violet version that ended up in Twilight.

    Though I don't remember where the posts are, so sorry.
     
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  30. Agent Orange

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    Twilight Paul got bitten by both a vampire and a werewolf (he got no superstrength but he has sparkly fur and he smells really good to both vamps and weres).
     
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