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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I would also like to know where these Insectoids come from? Who made them? And why, if they are so dangerous, they weren't being stored and studied off-world?

    Grayven has access to multiple different types of portals that would make the commute for researchers unproblematic.
     
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    Yeah, I've done that in games myself: Charge in expecting to steamroll an enemy, only to catch their attack with my face. One of the most painful recently was charging at a Space Marine Devastator with a Lascannon. One word: Cored.

    Okay, this is not a place you want melee combatants. good thing Adom isn't here, I guess. I'm not sure that his divinely-granted Potency would protect him...

    Last thing you want is a New God Speedster getting anywhere near these things, yeah...

    Ironically, the elementals are probably the best weapon against the infectious bugs. Pity they're not on your side.

    Man, these things are insane. Those blades would make it hard to block...

    Drones with death rays. Another good option to take these things down. Seriously, why were they not entirely wiped out, or at least Boom Tubed to some remote planetoid somewhere? Were Cranius and Crassus that attached to them?

    Kill him quickly! And with no splatter!

    Man, Arion the Elder is an arsehole. Did he not realize how dangerous they were? Did he simply not care?

    "Every dead body that is not exterminated becomes one of them. It gets up and kills! The people it kills get up and kill!" Yeah, this is not a time to be sloppy.

    Damn, this shit's looking like Dead Space in here! Thank Goodness Anton Arcane wasn't a gamer, he might have gotten inspired.

    Don't push your luck, girl. This is no time to try and show off to your sweetie.

    Thank goodness these things can't think. That'd be even more horrifying, being trapped inside your own body watching it kill and rampage...

    Cage is patched up. Now for the escapees. Get scanning, Ringnestro... We got us a bug hunt.

    "Currently casting Fist! A lot!" I see she's having fun. And we'll get to see if our guesses paid off.

    The only drawback is that the Tube aperture can only form so fast... And only so many at a time... Seriously, Grayven needs to arrange some offworld containment somewhere obscure.

    I doubt the Bugs did this. Presumably Arion's doing... Which raises some questions about how...

    An unconventional application of summoned Elementals... Quasi-Elementals of Lightning?

    Well done, Sunset. Gold star!

    And hopefully staying out of Zatara's sight? Last thing we need is a 'let's you and him fight' scenario.

    Denied! Back in your hole, bug!

    Boy, that's nasty stuff. Might need to quarantine the place and sweep to make sure they didn't leave any surprises about the place...

    Yes, people thought the same thing of another bug species. That didn't work out too well for them either. You know, the shiny black ones...

    In other words, Earth is too nice? But he has a point. Unless their very blood releases mutagens, killing them all would be the best idea...

    No. One scratch and you've got a fresh convert. And these things have shown they're too wily and adept at ambush tactics to be easily fought that way...

    "This could take all day..."

    So it'll come down to nigh-invulnerable heroes laying in with blades and bullets. Short of some manner of kill-switch, and I doubt Anton thought that far ahead. He would have wanted these things to rampage unstoppably, of course. And if they could kill him? Then so be it.

    Well, then. Thank goodness for speedsters.

    And introduce Arion the Elder to the Knuckle brothers: Righty and Lefty... o_O Then the Sword of the First and Second, if he's still got it.

    Now, to see if the League arrives at the same time Grayven's forces do to confront the villain of the piece. Because between emergency calls and Zatara's inbound presence, there's going to be a lot of people coming to Righteously Punch Arion the Elder's Face... :sneaky: Let the fun begin...


    A little Godspeech:
     
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  3. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    I think it was Anton Arcane.
     
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  4. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    He probably doesn't care.

    Also with his power he may be able to control them.

    Magic.
     
  5. Rebu

    Rebu hey, little Anna, you're the one

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    There are some places even insectoids fear to tread.
     
  6. Alasnuyo

    Alasnuyo I am always here

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    If it is indeed Arion that is attacking, what is this supposed to even achieve anyway?
     
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  7. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    This has all been covered in the story, but in summary:

    Anton Arcane made them after the original Un-Men turned on him. They're big, aggressive and with Arcane dead they don't obey anyone. Most of them also used to be regular people who were infected by an existing insectoid, and the transformation is very fast. They're kept in Aberrance because Cranius is researching them and... Actually, the site is pretty secure. There are levels of force you can't secure places against.
     
  8. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Will we find out what is happening with Tim Hunter?
     
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  9. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    All we know is that he's studying at the White School. It's probable that we'll never see him in the story.
     
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  10. Rafin

    Rafin Know what you're doing yet?

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    Can Grayven really not think of more efficient ways to beat them? If the Illustress was here he'd probably do it with brain-seeking fillaments tipped with X-ionised knives.
     
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  11. Wheenesss

    Wheenesss Versed in the lewd.

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    I completely forgot that Misa/Iname exists here. It feels like it’s been a while since we’ve seen her.
     
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  12. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    He could kill them easier, yes. He's trying to avoid doing that.
     
  13. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    The only one who can help, their Wizard, is already going. You do not want Superman to get infected, do you?
     
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  14. Bramble Thorn

    Bramble Thorn Verified Silhouette

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    This is not helpful at all.

    This is much more helpful.
    However, a point of confusion is that in Part 10...
    You introduce Insects as what appears to be utility constructs made from the renegades yellow ring, before having the some different, completely unrelated insects show up in Part 12.

    And yes, they come out as an curveball.


    "well, they were mentioned in the story at some point," isn't a good excuse for not refreshing the readers memories when they suddenly became relevant in the here and now. This is a big sprawling story after all, and I cannot remember them showing up before. So when Grayven suddenly starts ruminating about how they are this incredibly contagious zombie virus analog, I was thinking "what the hell is going on, why are they suddenly here, and how does he know about their virulence without it having happened yet, or the Mother Box or one of the rings doing a scan and telling him?"
     
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    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Two words, subspace pocket dimension.
     
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  16. Old Knife

    Old Knife Know what you're doing yet?

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    Iname. Can she get infected? Cause she's got superspeed and PietroQuicksilver was mentioned.
     
  17. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    Like any New God she has magic resistance and chemical resistance, not to the extent Grayven does but her body should be able to fight it off.
     
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  18. Dragonriderjh

    Dragonriderjh ******** of Doom

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    Corrected.
     
  19. Sorrow

    Sorrow Getting sticky.

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    I don't quite understand... Why is Ahr'ian doing this? Is he some sort of Atlantean Supremacist upset that Atalantean Biomancy is being used by non-Atlanteanian's? He's just a big jerk? Just for shits-and-giggles???
     
  20. Darko

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    He is a massive racist so you may have just figured out why he's doing this.
     
  21. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    I can totally see Common Sense Paul making a video like this:

     
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    Mr Zoat

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    12th July 2012
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    I shrug, trying not to look as relieved as I feel.

    "Eh. You know."

    Because I can do control spells and I can do battle spells. But I'm not so good at doing both at once while someone actually tries to kill me. Magic armour plus transformed Earth Pony should let me do what Grayven does and just shrug off people hitting me. But I've seen the scars from where he couldn't and I'm not ready to try that quite yet.

    I smile, some of the tension going out of my shoulders.

    "All the better now you're here."

    Because I can do this. Probably. But having someone here who's got a lot more experience than me means that I'm less likely to get something really wrong.

    I feel Circe touching my spells with her magic, feeling out what they do and how much effort they're taking. Even without a horn I can manipulate far more magic power now than I could before my transformation, and after I set spells up keeping distinct spells running in parallel is a snap. I thought about making the spell I'm using to prevent elemental manifestations harder to understand, but if we're trying to find whoever's responsible for this attack, then-.

    "You've made that spell simple to understand on purpose, haven't you?" Circe smiles at me. "You cunning minx."

    I tilt my head back, chin held high in pride.

    "Cunning pony."

    And there's an exception for a very narrow band of sympathetic resonances, so that if I do this-

    The concrete and tarmac around us jumps up, forming a short defensive wall.

    -then it behaves a little more like a hill or fortress. Not as good as if I reinforced it directly, but it's a lot tougher than it should be. It took me hours to work out how Maud was doing that, but even with the bruises it was time well spent. So if-.

    Everything goes white for a moment and I immediately heal myself, blinking-. Yes! Tarmac beats lightning! This is starting to look like the work of someone who's strong but lazy. I mean-

    I start trying to reverse-engineer whatever it was that whoever that is did to hurl lightning like that, my etheric senses running along the channel in the way Circe's did my spell. And I'm not exactly feeling anything impressive. Like I thought, high power and…

    Auto-targeting? Huh. So it's not targeting me specifically, it's just taking shots at targets of opportunity. But I've seen Misa dropping people off and it hasn't tried blasting any of them. What's the characteristic it's looking for? It's not how much of a threat it is, because it was blasting buildings when Grayven got here.

    "Sunset, it would be wise to raise your defenses."

    Huh?

    "Magic defenses? I've already got those."

    "No, your shields against direct attack. These buttresses are reasonable, but-."

    Oh, darn it. She's right. The few battlemage lessons I was able to persuade Celestia to give me didn't take into account the sort of weapons Earth has. I mean, I'm a small target-

    I wave my right hand, creating an area around me where all objects and energies are predisposed to avoid hurting people.

    -in cover, so I'm not exactly an easy target.

    I take a step to the left.

    Moving around might be better than bunkering up, but I don't know what magic is being used here and I don't want to split my concentration. Genomorphs might get converted by those.. insectoid things.

    Equestria does not have anything like those.

    I turn to look at Circe.

    "Is this oka-"

    A beam of rainbow light shoots past my nose, disintegrating a neat hole through my dugout.

    "-y?"

    Okay taller walls now. I don't need to be able to see all that well to keep suppressing the summoning effect.

    "I think that it is, yes."

    "What even was that? It-."

    Actually, what did it do? Was it homing in on me? There wasn't an explosion when it hit home and I didn't feel any sort of pressure shift that might be caused by teleportation or matter nullification. I spread the area of the safe zone outwards to increase the chance of it 'catching' another shot like that, boost my armour and start trying to examine that spell and the lightning spell for shared elements.

    Okay… I think

    "Is that the guidance system?"

    "The guid-. Hm." Circe nods. "I think you're right. I think it is."

    "Okay, well, I can misdirect it-. Actually."

    I bend down and pick up a small stone. Yes, that should do… I trace a small sigil on it with my right foreclaw and imbue it with a little power. And throw

    It sails over the area covered by my ward and-.

    And I blink to clear my eyes as lightning hits it. Twice.

    And then the rainbow beam hits it.

    Ooooooh.

    Oh, this bit isn't going to be fun.

    I hold my right hand out to the side, draw mana into the material world just over my palm and wai-.

    Lightning strike. And two, three, four, f-.

    The glowing ball winks out as the rainbow beam shoots it through the middle-. Through the middle because the ward is only protecting living people and a ball of energy isn't a living person.

    I pour mana into my right palm, raise my left hand and conjure a beam of light-.

    Hah! It curved around! That's pretty clever. Once we're finished here I'll do a proper analysis and work out-.

    Circe pats me on the head.

    "I'm sure that's very interesting, dear, but perhaps you should focus on the here and now?"

    "Right, okay. It look like-. Grayven?"

    "Listening."

    "The lightning and rainbow beam home in on magic. If you-"

    I pull more power into the world, but this time surround it with a minor dampening spell so that it won't look like it's there.

    One.

    "-hide anything magical with a disguise ward, the spells shouldn't trigger."

    Two, three, four… Five.

    Yes!

    "Right. I'll bear that in mind. Is Circe with you?"

    She leans towards me. "Yes, I am."

    "You've got lots of experience undoing human transformations. Would you mind having a go at some of the locals? We… Didn't get to all of them fast enough."
     
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  23. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  24. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    'that you're'

    This sentence feels weird

    Maybe:

    'whoever did this'

    Seeing as Arion is a massive racist it may be targetting non-humans and it can detect that Sunset isn't a human, either because she registers as something like a New God or because it can detect she's a pony.

    'is being'

    'It sails'

    Which she caused.
     
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  25. DrThoth

    DrThoth Not too sore, are you?

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    It would maybe be worth it for Circe, Sunset and Atlantean/Venturian biomancers to study the insectoids more thoroughly to see if they can reverse the effects, even for those transformed for a long-time. At least to rule out the possibility of curing/reversing their condition, if nothing else. Cranius is good and all but his arcane education (pun semi-intended) is relatively lacking.
     
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  26. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    No, those are correct.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  27. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    Needs a full stop at the end.
     
  28. Agent Orange

    Agent Orange Versed in the lewd.

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    'Ah! Senpai is here! The day is saved!'

    I don't expect anyone else to have this reaction to Circe appearing before them but it makes sense in this context.

    ...

    I thought she transformed into Alicorn? Doesn't that already make her as strong/tough as an Earth Pony?
     
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    Ah, Sunset. And this picks up just on Circe's arrival. Time for the ladies to magic the shit out of the bad guys... Seriously, to quote Banner in Infinity War: "Haha, now you guys are screwed!"

    Heh, not ready for the true close quarters stuff, eh? Understandable, she is still young. It's also refreshing to not have a teenager (or young adult, at this point) to feel as if they're invulnerable.

    Always helps to have someone who can check your work, eh? Especially the 'cool big sis' figure in your life.

    You can use it as bait if they try to dispel it, eh? The question is whether someone as old as Arion the Elder would fall for that. Then again, he may not consider that anyone but a 'true Atlanean' could manage it.

    Awww, you can see the 'Eee! Sempai noticed me!' running through her head, can't you? x3 Not discounting the shipping yet, you know.

    'This' presumably being a casual twist of the spell matrix, eh? 'Press X to smash an attacking enemy.'

    Good to see she's picking up Earth Pony Geokinesis. Helps that she was working with one of the stronger equestrian experts.

    Man, that brings my opinion of Arion the Elder down a bit (not that it was very high to start with.) I'm reminded of a quote from 'Kill Six Billion Demons' about the DemiUrges of the universe using the power of the creator god 'as a man might use a particularly sharp rock.' All that power, and he's using it like a caveman.

    Some sort of racial profiling thing, perhaps? It seems the sort of thing Arion the Elder might use. Either purity of blood (read 'how similar to pureblood Atlanteans') or the like... Targetting the buildings is the spell trying to hit those inside? Or some sort of proximity trigger.

    Sure, Alicorn of Ambition. But even the mightiest Sorceror can still be brought down by a rock in a sock.

    You don't have some kind of missile-deflecting spell? Then again, Equestrians don't go in for bows much. More thrown rocks and spellbolts. And any deflection spell might not work well on bullets...

    That's a rather vague effect. Bet it costs a lot more energy than a more defined spell, but works much better...

    Oh, sure, now she's tempting Murphy. Sheesh. Also: Scary thought.

    Even Changelings aren't that... Evil.

    Yikes. Might want to add a spell to warn you to duck. Or perhaps one that forces you to before your reactions can catch up.

    Remember though: Concealment does not equal cover, nor does cover equal concealment...

    At least she can focus on the important things rather than 'Oh dear Celestia, I nearly got killed!'

    Huh. Like a leader charge, which serves as the channel for the bulk of the lightning? Except noticeably longer between charge and strike...

    Let's not try that right on top of you, though. Work at a distance. Preferably a big one.

    ...'Foreclaw'? Her armour has talons? Interesting.

    ...Oh, that's significant! By Jove, my dear, I think you've cracked it!

    Almost like reverse thunder... "I'm not overly fond of what follows..."

    That was on the rock... Now, what next...

    So the beams track active mana, not passive stuff like people's souls. Which explains why it's not targetting fleeing civilians: they're not mages.

    Circe, there's encouraging, and then there's patronising. You're walking a fine line there.

    At least she kept Sunset from getting distracted. That would get people killed.

    And active magic at that. Because it doesn't seem to be tracking Iname or Grayven...

    You better hope it works...

    All quiet? Looks like the gamble paid off.

    Not that Grayven really uses all that much magic, beyond Godspeech. Much like OL, he's not really suited to the finer Arts.

    Craaaap. I hope they're well-contained. Because that's a biohazard just waiting to bite back...

    Such a casual outlook to fighting animate stone and lightning bolts. Then again, given the weirder things in Equestria, I'm not surprised she's blasé about it. And I though Grayven was headed to beat mage face. o_O Are we sure she's actually talking to Grayven? No, wait, this is probably something he came across on the way...


    Phrasing's a little awkward. Perhaps 'impressive' or 'to impress me.'
    Hah! It curved around!
     
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    And this is why racism is worthless.

    He's probably much more skilled than this but just thought that he didn't need to show off and waste time.

    With his power he honestly doesn't need much skill.

    You'd know something about that.

    Or that's how she calls fingers.

    She's a three thousand year old sociopath that turned thousands of innocents into animals.

    She probably can't do better than that.

    Paul has started using magic.
     
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