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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    It's not just the official accounts, it's running a business that he doesn't want to do. Running one that's flat out illegal risks coming to official attention in a way he doesn't want to.
    He doesn't have one. He task is to try to increase security. And in the United States of America it is perfectly constitutional to enslave a person if it is in punishment for a criminal offence.
     
  2. w34v3r

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    Part of the problem is that they're trying to build a super prison in a world without a coherent power source.

    Given how many different ways exist for people to have and use powers in most DC earths, trying to keep all the villains at the same facility is a stupid plan no matter what you do because they'll inevitably create a situation where the protocols for one prisoner open a gap for another.

    One size does not fit all and it never will.
     
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  3. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Belle Reve has inhibitor collars that work on supercriminals from Abra (nanotech) to Black Adam (divine magic) to Ultra-Humanite (gorilla physiology).

    My theory is that they work by disrupting the nerve signals that activate the person's abilities, especially since they can be programmed to let the subject use chosen abilities.

    Although you are right about not being one size fits all, they have to be programmed correctly for the target before being put on.
     
  4. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Abra's implants were turned off via power ring before he was handed over, and even WITH that, Abra was able to do some rather impressive tricks before he managed to work his way into OL's good graces long enough to have them turned back on to any degree. I don't think he had an effective collar on at all.
     
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    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Abra was one of the prisoners who participated in Icicle Sr's breakout attempt and was prevented from escaping by Icicle Jr.

    So A) If his collar didn't work than the Light went through a lot of unnecessary shit, because Abra would have been able to make prisoners disappear whenever he wanted.

    B) if his collar wasn't working, then Icicle Jr shouldn't have been able to prevent him from excaping by freezing him.

    So that would be one of the handful of times that Zoat did something that can't be reconciled with the facts of Earth-16.
     
  6. Cuchulin

    Cuchulin Versed in the lewd.

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    Just be careful as not to shrink them to much, Marvel tried that and it didn't work very well partly because they didn't shut off the villains powers as well

    Better off putting it under sea or in international waters, it'd be harder to get any where and it's closer to the US power centers
     
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    Considering the issue of cardboard prisons in comics, with Arkham Asylum coming to mind, the equivalent to an a hostile prison as OL is suggesting could make context in universe. Obviously this is probably as he said the sort that that are far past rehabilitation. I think it can make extra sense since supervillains really can, on an individual basis can prove dangerous to entire cities or at the upper scale be global threats and so the whole "protecting the populace from the prisoners" aspect of prisons really come into its own.

    Short of that for planetary threat levels people directly responsible for the deaths of X amount, I figure something like 10000 people might be a good number as there's basically no way any conventional serial killer can manage it, with a standard trial, and an expedited execution clause. There's all sorts of problems of getting a kill order that you just play up as someone as threat, think General Thunderbolt and the hulk and get it authorized, so thinking the x death threshold of people they've *actually* killed.
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    24th January 2006
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    Zamaron is busier than I was expecting. Towers in the styles of a dozen species cover the planet, interspersed at apparently random intervals with cultivated areas of greenery. I can even see what appears to be a vertical farm in skyscraper form, a hollow column of greenery covered in flowers and fruit.

    The Zamarons themselves are easy enough to spot. The ones acting as our escort all look like human women in hoplite armour, their hair done up in curls. But I've caught sight of others dressed the same way but wearing faces of other species. They're still all women and all humanoid, but I've seen blue, purple, orange and yellow skin, two eyes, four and six, conventionally attractive and unconventionally… Unconventional.

    I assume. I don’t know all of these species.

    There are plenty of aliens, too, male and female and children. Though none are in the air as the Zamarons appear to all be, and there's a certain… Distance between the two groups even when they're close together. I haven't seen any non-humanoids yet, but we've only flown over a relatively small part of one urban area. I also haven't seen any male Zamarons, Guardians, Controllers, or any other Maltusians.

    Komand'r doesn't look impressed.

    "What's so great about this place?"

    "It's not quite what I was expecting. But-."

    "What were you expecting?"

    "More violet crystal. And fewer men."

    One of the Zamarons looks around, her artfully styled left eyebrow arched.

    "The crystals are for the direction and storage of energy. Why would we make buildings with them?"

    "Why do the Guardians make all their buildings look like giant lanterns?"

    She rolls her eyes.

    "A truly mortifying lack of imagination. Why do you think we dumped them?"

    Blackfire wrinkles her nose. "Aren't Guardians, like, three-" She makes a 'you must be this high' gesture with her right hand. "-feet tall? And don't they all look like babies?"

    The Zamaron huffs. "Those characteristics didn't help." Then she smiles. "Now we attract paramours from across the universe! Most of whom have feelings they don't mind talking about, a reasonable knowledge of armour couture and an acceptance that we're more important than their stupid Lantern Corps!"

    Ah.

    "Bad break up?"

    "I'm perfectly fine! Why does EVERYONE say I'm not?!""

    I.. look awkwardly at one of the other Zamarons, who subtly shakes her head and makes a 'stop' gesture. I nod, and float away from Unexploded Zamaron and towards head-shaking Zamaron.

    "I wanted to talk to someone about holding our wedding here. Is that really something I need to speak to your current Queen about?"

    "Weddings are a celebration of love, one of the two most important things in Zamaron society."

    Komand'r frowns in a 'I'm nearly interested' sort of way.

    "Oh? What's the other one?"

    "Punching people in the face."

    "Huh?"

    "I'm one point two billion years old. Have you got any idea how many cities I've seen? Heck, this is the seven hundredth one I've seen just at this geographic location alone. Seriously, razed to the ground, built up again, seven hundred times. Only two things still make me feel alive: genuine emotional attachment to another intelligent being." She smiles beatifically. "And the brutal rush-" Her expression becomes a little more manic. "-of bloody combat."

    Komand'r nods. "Oh, I totally get you. This… 'Love' thing's kind of new for me, but I've always liked fighting."

    The Zamaron glances my way. "He is your first?"

    Komand'r hesitates.

    "When you say first..?"

    "The first person for whom you have felt romantic love."

    "Oh! Yeah, definitely."

    "You don't sound very convincing."

    Komand'r huffs.

    "Ugh, fine. He's the first person I think I can be completely honest with, the first I trust enough to be w-." Twitch. "Vuln-." Twitch. "I don't have to constantly assert myself when I'm around him. Who I know will be there for me because he's proven that he loves me too, who I can trust not to abuse that trust."

    The Zamaron looks at me.

    "And can she?"

    "You're not going to ask me if she's my first?"

    She shrugs. "I probably would if I was being fair, but we picked female forms for a reason and I'm not."

    Komand'r frowns at her. "I am." She looks curiously at me. "I never asked that. Am I?"

    "Yes. I love your passion, your fury-."

    "That's just a tamaranean thing. I want to hear about me."

    "I've never been more alive than in the time I've known you. Your adventurousness, your vivacity, your determination to wring every bit of excitement out of life made me actually embrace what we do rather than stumble from job to job out of a sense of obligation, orBecause I couldn't think of anything better to do. Heck, the way I put aside all of my reservations about letting my anger and hate run free, the.. whole way I was able to channel the Lesser Sign of the ButcherThat was you, what you showed me."

    Komand'r's eyes are wide and watery as she drifts over to me and lays her hands on my chest.

    "Awww…"

    And then head-shaking Zamaron drops a pair of necklaces over our heads.

    We both blink, pulling away slightly to look at… The glowing violet crystal attached to each of them.

    "Congratulations! You're married."



    Okay. That's.. why we're here… But…

    "Isn't there supposed to be a ceremony?"

    "Usually we send a couple who want to be married by us on an epic quest to prove their worth and test their love, but we heard about Vega and you two have pretty much done all that. The Queen can officiate a ceremony with guests if you want, but this is the important bit. Two people who complete each other finding each other."

    I think I-. I close my eyes-. I can feel Komand'r through the violet crystal. Komand'r blinks as she realises the same thing.

    I hold out my left hand to her.

    "Let's go and see the Queen."
     
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  9. Darko

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    Wrinkled babies.

    Well, they may say it because of this.

    Wise woman.

    Ahh, sexism.

    Truly it is a universal concept.

    Remove one "

    Zamaron, the galaxy's version of a quickie Vegas wedding.

    'feel Komand'r"
     
  10. Kalem_Lee

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    That was cute as F*k man.
     
  11. Cuchulin

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    That was fast.
    Also they should probably have some sort of party or ceremony or something that they can invite Starfire and other members of Kom's family.
     
  12. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  13. Darko

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    Komand'r hates practically anyone aside from Raul, especially Kori.

    Granted with her personality change, she may do it.
     
  14. Handlewithcare

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    Aww, our two adorable rage filled murder-babies got hitched :')

    I can now see the Dalek officiating the wedding, with a little bowtie and whatnot:

    "Dearly abhorred. We've been forced here together to witness these two fleshbags swear an ill considered oath of fleeting loyalty to each other.

    His enemies shall be her enemies! And her enemies shall be his enemies! And together. They shall...EX-TER-MINATE!

    You may now punch the bride"
     
  15. Cuchulin

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    True, but there are certain obligations like informing the family and letting them celebrate. Which doesn't have to mean she sticks around to do so with them even if she will have to spend more time with her family in the future for the sake of her child.
     
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  16. Darko

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    Assuming Tamaranean or Zamaron wedding ceremonies require family to attend.
     
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    Tamaranean ones almost certainly do given how open and sharing they are when it comes to emotions.
     
  18. Darko

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    Yeah, but Komand'r still hates Kori, so unless her mood swings cause her to invite her, I don't see her honoring any Tamaranean traditions.

    Seeing as she betrayed her family and people, I doubt she cares all that much about certain aspects of Tamaranean culture.
     
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    Ah, Raul. I take it you've explained about the whole meteorite thing? Still, it's interesting how diverse the appearance of different versions of various mainstays can be... You should see the LEGO DC-verse's version of Zamaron. Pink. Crystal. Ridges. Everywhere.

    Not interested in having your brain punched by your Ring's database, eh? i can understand that, it's probably already a bit woozy from the earlier cockblocking...

    She probably had a very different idea of things in her head. Maybe something a bit more like Ysmault, but pink and purple... I see these Zamarons aren't quite as extreme in their views on men as some versions, at least. Benefit of the universe being a kid's show, more or less...

    Well, enjoy being pleasantly surprised.

    I know, right? Seriously, it's a pity I can't find easily linkable pics of the LEGO DC version... Violet rocks and pink crystals... Which makes me wonder what a Paul in the LEGO DC universe might be like. Would he be a human amongst the minifigures or...?

    For aesthetics? I don't know...

    ...This one has opinions about her race's masculine half, doesn't she?

    ...Okay. :oops: Just gonna back up now...

    ...I reserve all comment. I have no experience with this kind of thing.

    He's a wiser man than most. Though even a Shonen protagonist could catch those warning signs...

    ...o_O What's the other? Please don't say 'encasing lovers in indestructible crystal...

    Who knows, maybe they can bond over it...

    ...'Love hurts', huh? Knocking some sense into dunderheads who are thicker than harem anime protagonists?

    ...Oh god, they are going to bond...I can just see Komand'r with a Violet Ring now...

    I mean... He's not the first she's fought alongside... Depending on how dark you consider their backstory to get, not the first in other places...

    She sounds almost relieved that's what the lady meant...

    "Just watch me, beeyatch!"

    Amusing that she can feel that way, yet still not say the words 'weak' or 'vulnerable' aloud.

    Double standards much, my dear Ladies?

    To be fair, I don't think any of us want to know, anyway. Even if OL was probably the first to share that about himself...

    She's got a point. Tamaraneans are anything but subtle in emotional displays, whatever that emotion be.

    Dang, Raul. You sweet talker, you. Looks like she was definitely good for him.

    "If we weren't in public, I would be ripping that armour off you..."

    Wait... Did they just...

    Huh. Well, talk about your quick versions. Not quite "Do you? Do you? Good, you're married! Kiss her!" but it works.

    To be fair, if people come to Zamaron to seal the deal, they're probably in a hurry, or looking for a big show, so...

    Nice. The best kind of mental link. One that reinforces positive bonds.

    ...Seriously, Raul? You didn't explain the Meteorite thing?

    And so Raul gets to be the first alternate Paul married on screen (though Lord Protector probably got there offscreen.) Doing the Tamaranean version for the sake of her family is probably unlikely, though. Wonder how Atrocitus and the other senior Reds will take the news. "It's about damn time, boy." Or something like that, I bet. Yes, I do think Atrocitus would be Rage-Enlightened. Who better to understand his own anger in all its' facets?


    Guessing she was saying 'Vulnerable' here, so 'Vuln-.' probably fits better.
     
  20. Cuchulin

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    She is changing and Raul might very well insist on it. Also some times it not about caring or not caring as being unable to conceive of not doing it because that's just how your people/family do things. Lastly she'll need someone to baby sit her child while she goes off to beat the $h!t out of people or brutally murders them.
     
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    Love the Rage and Rage the Love.
     
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    I also think he mentioned in a previous chapter that he lacked a database.

    And they're not positive.

    Good man.

    Well she loves Raul and is crazy, so I can see her being a crazy stalker-like Violet Lantern.

    She's a sexist.

    Don't expect much.
     
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    She also seemed to be getting more control over her mood swings so those may not influence her so much now, and Raul may also not even think to have her invite her family members to the ceremony.

    His relationship with the Titans seemed to be fairly tense before he was enlightened.

    Also he may drop it even if he did ask her to since it may upset her and he probably doesn't want to do that.

    Again, she hates most people so even if she thought of doing it, she may quickly decide not to.

    I'm also betting Tamaraneans view family loyalty as being a big thing and that didn't stop Komand'r from betraying her family.

    She can have someone else do it for her, like that big Tamaranean guy that had a hand in raising her and Kori.

    Kori would probably be a great babysitter and influence for the kid, but Komand'r may not want her anywhere near the kid.

    Why would you want your kid to be around someone you hate?
     
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    Also that does diddly for triggered or passive abilities, and what part of Ultrahumanite's powers were suppressed? They still had the body of a gorilla.

    Hell techies and super operatives shouldn't be kept around other people, and neither should mages.

    I think you're joking but that may actually be a thing with Tamaraneans.
     
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    Thank you, corrected.
     
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    I really hope we get a full volume about the wedding.... Because there's no way it doesn't get Super Villained.
     
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    Sounds like they would get more funerals than marriages out of that.
    Unless they are very good at tailoring ‘epic’ to the individual and fairly broad in their definition of ‘quest’. I suppose there must be quite a lot of Master In-Piles in the galaxy.
     
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    Or they take the whole 'love conquers all' thing extremely seriously.

    And, yeah, I can see them doing it.
     
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    You want to get married by the Zamarons? Earn it.
    What is a Master In-Pile?
     
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    The Guardians didn't originally look like that, that look is the result of getting too much green energy while focusing on duty and nothing else. Add the fact they basically decided to block their emotions and is no wonder they got dumped.
     
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