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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    Actually if you live in a place with a lot of wind or were is sunny most of the year then it starts to become free if you don't need much.

    And that's with CURRENT tech in solar energy and wind power.

    Make solar panels using Cosmic Rod tech and yeah you actually start to earn money from it
     
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  2. PDV

    PDV The Revelation That Uncertainty is Itself a Answer

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    Cornwall Boy has decent theoretical knowledge now, he's actually a good choice. Especially if this isn't limited to the US.
     
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  3. Soul Shocker

    Soul Shocker Know what you're doing yet?

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    Hmm, God of Automation?
     
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  4. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    Too low level, I am thinking machine Elemental baby.
     
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  5. I_S

    I_S Getting some practice in, huh?

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    Is the metal starting to wake up thanks to all this magic flying around?
     
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  6. PrinceJonathan

    PrinceJonathan Versed in the lewd.

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    Anyone else imagining the robot arms talking to each other like the Tachikomas from Ghost in the Shell?

    "We're HALPing!"
     
  7. Gilhelmi

    Gilhelmi Know what you're doing yet?

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    It has been a long month away, and another week to catch up.

    I love that Raul got married. So very adorable. His Zamoran's also seem quite reasonable, mostly, bad break-ups aside. What happened to Atrocitus in his universe and why is Raul the leader of the Red Lantern's now? (or did I misunderstand it?)

    Also, last time we got several alternate reality Paul's, it was leading up to the "Crisis of Infinite Paul's". I would enjoy seeing Gray get his turn for some righteous face-punching. Maybe that OL who turned most of the worlds hero's into his puppets?

    I am interested to see what Inviolate Lex ends up doing in Grayven's universe. I am kind-of hoping that it leads to Gray other Lex's teleporter tech or something, but it is too early to know.

    I am disappointed that Kara did not try to figure out the Phantom Zone parole thing, Lantern Tomar-Re might still try and crack that egg. Still, good call on her not visiting Daxim, there is no way that they would be happy to see her.

    I am loving this new mystery. It is nice to see OL relax with a "mundane" case and help train Lantern Arisia Rrab. Honestly, I miss the old team and the personal dynamics that they provided.
     
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  8. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    He's a Senior Lantern. Lord Atrocitus still runs the Corps.
    They're not exactly puppets. Wind-up dolls would be more accurate.
    Going home, probably. The Renegade doesn't want to risk a second Lex, and Inviolate Lex would rather go home.
     
  9. Threadmarks: Maladaptive (part 6)
    Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    22nd July 2012
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    "Well hey there, partner!"

    Earl Dukeston smiles warmly, striding over to shake my hand the moment his secretary lets me into his office. His… Huge office, which I might call a penis extension if I didn't know for a fact that he doesn't have one. Though I do note that he's had extra padding added to his right hand; his grip feels a lot more like that of a human hand and less like that of an industrial crusher than last time.

    "Sit down, sit down." Right hand on my back, he leads me to his coffee table and takes a seat opposite me. I sit down and he leans back, apparently completely at ease. "What brings you to my neck of the woods?"

    "There's been a rash of… What I can only call strange malfunctions: machines so committed to their jobs that they do them without human agency or.. even power-."

    "Ah, hey." He holds his hands up defensively. "Ah'm totally legitimate, strait and narrow, wouldn't say 'boo' to a goose. Y'all can check with-."

    "Oh-. No, no." I shake my head. "I wasn't accusing you. Sorry, I can.. see how that could have sounded."

    "Well good." He puts his right hand on his chest, smile still in place. "If ah had a heart, it'd be racing right now! Ah'm a good boy these days, now there's no electric gun against mah head."

    "I have no reason to doubt that, and as I said at the hearing, I can think of no reason why you wouldn't be."

    "So long as we're clear about that. Machines acting up, huh?"

    "A car that drove the route to work without regard for traffic laws, a robot assembly line trying to assemble golf carts from nothing." I smile. "A weighing machine that guesses the weight of anyone who walks by it with surprising accuracy."

    "Bet some folks didn't like that."

    "Actually, it drew a crowd. I've got a dozen other reports, and there are probably more that we aren't finding out about because people either don't notice or chalk it up to a normal malfunction."

    "That's mighty strange. But why come to me? Ah'm just a businessman."

    "Two reasons. Firstly, your remarkable facility for controlling technological devices. Secondly, the other AIs I know are magic-based or techno-organic. You're an upload, which means that if it's a magic thing you're more likely to be able to interact with it."

    "Like a canary interacts with mine gas."

    "That's not quite how I was.. thinking about it. If there's some sort of elemental creature that actually wants something, or.. is trying to do something, we need someone who can speak its language."

    "Negotiatin' 's something ah can do. So y'all just want me to work mah not-magic touch on it, see if anyone's home, and that's it?"

    "That's probably it. If I knew exactly what was happening, I wouldn't be trying to find out what's happening."

    "Sounds like the sorta thing a public-spirited artificial person like me oughta do."

    "You haven't noticed anything strange yourself?"

    "Everything in the office is hunky-dory, and if the fellahs workin' the wells spotted anything they ain't referred it upwards. Ah'll send a message 'round, see what shakes loose."

    "I'd appreciate it. And you, personally?"

    He frowns. "Had some mighty strange dreams lately. But hell, ah'm a machine thinks he's a man. Shouldn't even be able to dream in the first place, and there ain't exactly a standard for 'normal' when you're me. Ah. But there's something that's been bothering me something chronic for a while now, and I was hoping you could put mah mind at ease. 'fore I do something canary-like."

    "I'll do my best. What's the problem?"

    "Earl Dukeston the First didn't want to meet his maker ahead of time. That's why he had me built. But he knew he'd be meeting him eventually. He was a Baptist Christian, a regular church-goer. Until he couldn't physically make the trip no more, anyhow. Ah've got as many ah his memories as they could load onto me, but I'm not him."

    I nod. "That's my understanding; Earl Dukeston the First is now dead."

    "So he didn't change the date ah his meeting with his maker at all, did he?"

    "Not significantly. Though having been to the Silver City and having definitely not had an encounter with the godhead, I'm not sure that's exactly how it works anyway."

    "Howsabout me, then? Ah've been going to church. Ah believe just like he did, and the law says ah'm a person even if ah ain't exactly a man. Will ah go to Heaven, or the other place if'n ah don't measure up?"

    "Zauriel's a better person to ask than me."

    "If'n he had a postal address, ah'd have surely asked him."

    "Ah. In that case, my understanding is 'no'. Even on mystically strong worlds, AIs struggle to gather the sort of arcane weight that organic creatures do. Both Red Tornado and Red Inferno were designed with the manipulation of magic as a part of their core function so they don't have that problem. You weren't."

    "Well. That's mighty disappointing. Is there any way to fix it?"

    "Oh, sure. Did I ever show you my tattoos?"

    "Can't say you did."

    "Well, short version, a while ago I found myself in your position. I talked to some wizards, and after a while we managed to get it fixed. Since I couldn't grow a soul normally, we used a little magic to make me grow one artificially. I'm not exactly sure how it would work for you, but we can talk to some people and see what we can come up with."

    "That'd be a weight off mah mind." He stands up, the same smile on his face. "Alright, ah'm in. Let's go have a powwow with the self starting machines."

    I stand. "Let's. But I'm curious: what sort of dreams?"

    "Ah already talked that one out with mah shrink. Like ah'm standing in a room surrounded by all kinds a' folks, but none of 'em can see or hear each other, an' ah can't talk neither." He shrugs. "Guess it just means ah need to get out and make more friends."

    "Do you dream that often?"

    "A couple times, close together. Then once or twice more. Ain't like it's every night. If'n this ole' noggin of mine gets stuck in that sorta loop, I call the fellahs down in IT."

    "And you're making an effort to be more social, and they're not coming back?"

    "That's about the size of it. Not every little thing's a major crisis. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, you know?"

    "It's not practical to be suspicious of everything, anyway. What are your normal dreams like?"

    "Ones and zeroes, my friend. Ones and zeroes."
     
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  10. thebishop8

    thebishop8 Umm, ackchyually...

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    I don't think we've seen this guy since episode 11, nearly 100 episodes ago.
     
  11. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    The robot that fought Black Canary and had oil fields.

    'that drives' or 'drove'

    That was probably embarrassing.

    I assume not.

    'that we'

    'that thinks'

    Maybe 'physically make the journey'

    Now I'm thinking that if this is the Metal, then machines may end up there if they die.

    Fortunately, Earth is bullshit, so you may be okay Earl.
     
  12. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Morpheus isn't quite so discriminating. If you wants to, he'll lets you.

    Ahh, the Metal.

    So, programming, or Morpheus?
     
  13. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Unless you cheat on him with some other guy.

    Then he'll take away the ability to dream from your entire species, like he did to the Maltusians in this universe.
     
  14. doug89

    doug89 Versed in the lewd.

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    As far as I can tell he's only been mentioned a handful of times.

    https://forum.questionablequesting.com/posts/2432460/
    https://forum.questionablequesting.com/posts/2432462/
    https://forum.questionablequesting.com/posts/2513309/
    https://forum.questionablequesting.com/posts/3006989/
    https://forum.questionablequesting.com/posts/4284695/

    First two are when the robots captured the team. The third when AI got human rights. Four this a passing reference while discussing Ai. The fifth is this chapter.
     
  15. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Wish we had an index of all the different Paul's and characters. I'd love to read the Buffy version again, and the Nazi Kara one.
     
  16. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    I think that's how he'd say it.
    I don't think there was one in the Nazi timeline.
     
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  17. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    No, I mean when he takes her to meet her non-nazi self. And I guess that was never Kara. That was someone else who was experimented on.
     
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  18. Z000

    Z000 If this is trash, then find me in the dumpster

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    i though Zoat hate the Nu crap, why are the signs pointing toward the Parliament of Metal ( or whatever government type they use) showing up
     
  19. doug89

    doug89 Versed in the lewd.

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    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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  21. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    He has used some things from it from time to time, like characters that showed up in the n52, so he may have decided to use the Metal.

    Though it may also be something else.
     
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  22. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    He isn't dreaming of electric sheep?

    Or oil powered sheep in his case, I guess

    Actually, this could be the explanation: one AI or other has gotten/is trying to get a soul and as a side effect a lot of machines are getting snippets of one too

    Which would be a problem. Giving AI rights is obvious but when every mechanical/electric thing suddenly gains agency there would be chaos
     
  23. Zig

    Zig Know what you're doing yet?

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    Zoat may hate the nu crap but he loves fucking with us,
     
  24. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    Oh-ho! Well, there's someone I forgot about entirely. Last seen surrendering to Black Canary and OL on the promise of a fair trial under OL's 'non-conventional Human' laws. What's he been up to, then? Evidently, whatever it is, it's turning a good profit...

    Ah... So ask a machine that can actually talk to humans to poke them and see if anything pops out?

    Ah, OL. So amusingly oblivious to deeper meanings when it's funny. Honestly, you never thought that he might assume that?

    While not entirely related to this... Fun anecdote: The brand-name 'Taser' is actually an acronym, from a sci-fi tale: 'Thomas A Swift's Electric Rifle'. Because, you know, the obvious similarities.

    Which more than a few ladies probably found annoying... And those around them found amusing? At least these manifestations are benign so far.

    Heh. Whatever's causing this (Nascent Elemental!) by and large seems to want to help people. :( Wonder how long that will last once they actually start interacting with Humanity...

    Read: No magic, just a case of brain-scan running on entirely conventional hardware... At least, in this universe.

    Assuming they can work out some kind of communication protocol. After all, computers were notoriously hard to get to work together... At least, before the Internet came along and standardised things.

    Well, that makes a lot of sense. Can't wait to see how badly it goes wrong. Unless Mr Zoat wants us to expect that and is feeling contrary. ;)
    (Murphy: "Okay, now you're just being disingenuous...")

    I kind of prefer the term Synthetic-American... 'Artificial' has some awkward connotations...

    To be fair, though, most of the machinery involved in oil drilling is only able to do one thing, and already do it as best they can...

    Ah, the strange philosophical conundrums of synthetic consciousnesses...

    Which is somewhat different to the original version, who was a 'brain in a bottle' scenario. Still, the change gives us Earl here, so...

    He may well not have qualified for full entry into the Pearly Gates... Though that doesn't mean he was hell-bound either... Probably got the 'plain' heaven...

    Good luck finding him though. I guess he generally hangs out near his sweetheart in what, San Francisco?

    On the other hand, it's probably easier for Earl to put off dying proper for a long time. Just keep upgrading and transferring into newer bodies. But then you run into the question of continuity of consciousness... Would him shutting down and transferring into a new body count as the same guy or a new one with the memories of the previous? :confused: Argh, this is why people don't like to think about these things...

    That's not an invitation to take your shirt off, OL. Let's not repeat that Zatanna moment, shall we? I'm also honestly not sure Earl would be able to perceive them if they were visible on the skin, what with his relatively minor mystical silhouette.

    Maybe taking a look at the structure of the Reds' core would help? After all, isn't the Morrow Construct still around somewhere? Perhaps he could offer some measure of expert insight.

    Gee, doesn't that sound significant...

    :p Who probably ask "Have you turned it off and back on again?" just out of habit...

    And sometimes it's something else. I get the feeling something growing in the Dreaming was trying to drop some very vague hints...

    :D So... No Electronic Sheep? ...Dammit! :oops: Nearly made it all the way without making that joke!

    Now that's quite the callback to earlier episodes. Earl first appeared in what, the first year of the story? And now he's playing a part in a technology-related plotline. This points more and more to an emergent Kingdom... I mean, the Earth's mystical sphere is surely a bit shaken up after the Sheeda invasion, after all. What better time for one to emerge from the Dreaming? And you know... The Metal isn't the only form an Elemental Kingdom of Technology could take...
     
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    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    No. He dreams of 01100101 01101100 01100101 01100011 01110100 01110010 01101001 01100011 00100000 01110011 01101000 01100101 01100101 01110000
     
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    If it decides to kill us after watching that, then it is right to do so.

    This makes sense.

    Chojin, it's getting harder to feel sympathy for you if you keep going to Murphy.

    Or Limbo.

    He can contact some of his magician allies to tell him where he is.

    Dangit, this may have been OL starting a romantic relationship with a guy, and a robot at that.

    The tattoos block magic and clarketech like rings, Earl may be able to view them.

    He's with Tornado

    Hey, it works.



    If it can free a mans penis then maybe it can also help with dreams.

    But it was the most prominent in the comics and it was an interesting storyline.
     
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    Tzeentch Know what you're doing yet?

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    Funnily enough, I was reading one of the chapters of Gunnerkrigg Court where a robot gets a new body that it's mind grows into, titled "She Gave us An Ocean". I wonder if how much Earl's mind has been growing...
     
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    Old Knife Know what you're doing yet?

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    that dream sounds strangely familiar.
    Like a room full of characters removed by authors out of existence about to be reintroduced into the narrative of the current timeline.


    You aren't about to dump a while bunch of new/old guys on us are you Zoat?
     
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    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Limbo? I wasn't planning to.
     
  30. SaltyWaffles

    SaltyWaffles Not too sore, are you?

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    Can someone explain to me what "The Metal" actually is?
     
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