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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Hopefully that mystic Kryptonian martial art Angelika has been teaching them works.

    There's Kara, though aside from the Sheeda thing that was mentioned, she doesn't really do superheroing.

    There's Angelika, or Overgirl.

    And there's Linda Danvers, or Noriel or Loriel now, who in this universe has the power and memories of a fallen angel grafted to her instead of some cross dimensional plasma entity, and who had her personality subsumed by the angel or at least merged with it.
     
  2. Agent Orange

    Agent Orange Versed in the lewd.

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    Three sounds right.
    The Nazi one, the (Fallen?) Angel one, the real deal (though ironically she has almost no interest in supergirling).
     
  3. BlueMangoAdea

    BlueMangoAdea Alive. For now.

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    Is Kara wearing a ward?
     
  4. Massgamer

    Massgamer Not too sore, are you?

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    At least she doesn't have a busted AI who will run towards the danger and is likely to listen to instructions like wait in cover and such.
     
  5. Chaoswind

    Chaoswind Lord of nonsense

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    Not only that, but of the three super girls he picked the one that is weaker to magic. Even if Overgirl taught Kara the fundamentals of the martial arts she knows, she would still be weaker to magic than Loriel and Overgirl.


    Also how come Cornwall boy isn't on this mission? A mission in the UK screams Cornwall boy.
     
  6. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    To be fair, that is a legitimate possibility with John Constantine. Which only makes the paranoia worse, because a Constantine in the wind is a Constantine getting into trouble. And that usually means bad things for anyone standing around them.

    It's rather a long story, starting with a magic helmet holding the consciousness of an ancient magician...

    At least she's been distant enough to avoid the inevitable shit-splatters. Mostly.

    John Constantine being quite and keeping his head down should make you more worried, OL, not less.

    Honestly, Lantern Rings are like cheat codes for escort missions like this. Unfortunately, he's escorting a Constantine. And that throws so many luck modifiers onto encounter rolls, it triples the difficulty...

    :eek: ...Are you really calling in the weak-against-magic Kryptonian in on this? Seriously, don't you have better magically-empowered options to call on? Osiris, for one, unless Adom isn't willing to let him fly solo yet. Then again, young Magical Guy, young Constantine girl... :confused: Nope, nothing but trouble that way!

    Though Kara is more than muscle, you know. I suspect her brains will come in handier on this thing. Which is probably why you didn't call in the embodied Angel...

    Oh. He's tossing her something to do while Ted geeks out over tech stuff, huh? :rolleyes: How.. nice of him. Still, I suppose it avoids having to explain this shit to anyone else...

    ...I can honestly see that happening. Because Earth.

    Aw. Guess they aren't smart enough to notice.

    Well, that depends on the costume. Does it involve a bare midriff? Or a bizarre pair of briefs that looks vaguely like a nappy? Or is it a nice sensible body stocking with accents?

    Um, that would mean flying at quite a few multiples of the speed of sound...

    ...Ah. So she can step from the local node to the factory, then a short hop just shy of Mach one. I bet Superman would have just flown, or hit up the Zeta Tube network... Goes to show who's smarter. :p

    Give her a moment, she'll be able to explain in person.

    She'll try to head out without your permission? Better she have an actual escort than play future teen hostage.

    Ah, motherly insight. Probably thinking of her own teenage years.

    One escortee is tolerable. Two or more just becomes a pain. Especially if one decides to run off.

    Hey now, be nice. And he's right. One person is a lot easier to protect than two... I've done quests in Champions Online involving whole groups of five or more, but they're dumb enough to simply walk a path and cower from enemies.

    Not even red and blue, are they? Such a disappointment to see capes in civilian clothes, isn't it?

    Oh, I bet there'll be a bit of a row once they're out the door...

    To be honest, she's a Constantine. She'll come out fine, if mildly traumatised. It's everyone else who has to worry.

    And you're not smoking a cigarette. Not every sidekick or junior partner has to copy their mentor. :rolleyes:

    Boy, she is raring to go, isn't she? We can but hope that adventurous confidence gets dampened a little after this...

    I wonder if her parents even knew she had a coat like that? Because it bodes ill for her not joining the Trenchcoat Brigade somewhere down the line...

    And when even OL can call that out, you know it's been sloppily coded. Probably fobbed off on an intern over a weekend...

    Yes, well, perhaps you can buck the trend by being smarter than the average NPC.

    *Gemma Will Remember That* And I wonder if she's ever even heard of Lemmings.

    I wonder if Maps has noticed anything unusual. What with being the Shaman of London and all. Perhaps we'll see him tomorrow.

    Man, I have to wonder why he hasn't called in more of the Team for this? Trying not to involve them in a Constantine mess? Because he has plenty of better Companions to work with than the one weakest to magic, after all. Sure they aren't all busy doing something else? At any rate, Gemma might be one of the best protected Escort Mission NPCs in the game's history, between a Lantern, a Kryptonian (hopefully with heavy magical warding?) and the freebie equipment...
     
  7. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    Kara Zor-El, Linda Danvers and Angelika Kant.
    Yes.
     
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  8. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Kryptonians do not have a type disadvantage to magic, they just lack a type advantage to it.
     
  9. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Getting interesting.

    Hopefully we will see Orange Lantern actually challenged with this.
     
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  10. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    A Constantine anywhere is a Constantine getting into trouble.

    Or anyone in general.

    The ones around them are the most at risk, but so is everyone else.

    There's also Canis.

    Super strong, god powers, advanced tech and knowledge of divine things.

    Though with this being a tech issue it is possible for that to become a liability.

    There's also Loriel.

    Okay, I take back what I said about Canis.

    If he sees the ruin a Constantinecan can bring then he may be inspired.

    And if Gemma and him get together...well I'm sorry for any nightmares I just gave you about a Canis and Constantine baby.

    Hell, there also the possibility of him getting together with John.

    We know John and Canis are both bi or even pansexual, and this wouldn't be the first time John has gotten into an ill-advised relationship.

    Once more I apologize for any nightmares I just gave you.

    She is very smart, but most of her knowledge is tech related, not magic.

    Loriel is knowledgeable about mystic matters, what with having memories of magic that can stretch from thousand, to potentially millions or even billions of years.

    Especially their worst aspects.

    Granted, John can sometimes come off as being just one worst aspect.

    Like Kirito and Asuna from SAO Abridged he's more like a loose collection of character defects.

    Ahh, I see you're back with Murphy.

    You two deserve each other.
     
  11. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    People really tend to oversell that weakness to magic.

    Superman can survive Darksied's omega beams, and he uses those to kill New Gods all the freaking time.

    And in YJ Conner tanked Kaldur's electricity and his water constructs while beating Robin, Kid Flash, and Kaldur unconscious in the first episode.
     
  12. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    I always assumed Kon did that because he was half human and had more resistance than a pure Kryptonian.

    As for Darkseid, he's varied from being a god to just a powerful alien, so his powers have also varied, and Supes has still been stated and shown to be weak against magic.
     
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  13. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Oh Gemma. Your naive enthusiasm is endearingly horrifying.
     
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  14. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    For the purpose of this story, Kryptonians are slightly more vulnerable to directly applied magic than humans due to not getting anything like the same level of support from the Earthsphere that humans do. However, conjured lightning is just electricity, and they're as resistant to it as the are electricity from any other source.
     
  15. Prognostic Hannya

    Prognostic Hannya Knight in the Yuri Crusade

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    I feel like Vulcan would be able to recognize a demon possession though. And doesn't Richard Simpson only work on advanced electronics? Some of the stuff getting possessed barely even has wires. Simpson also doesn't seem like the type to animate abandoned factory machinery, for absolutely no reason.

    And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Simpson working for Mammon last time we saw him? I can't see Mammon launching an operation of this size and scale on Earth and not at least informing him. To insure his non-involvement, if nothing else.
     
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  16. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Vulcan may not have dealt with demons all that much to recognise their handiwork.

    And he also probably never dealt with an emerging god before so he may not know much about what is going on.

    This is also a tech god emerging, and even the things that lack wires still qualify as tech.

    And the machines may be animated by accident rather than deliberately by Simpson.

    The guy is either trying to gain control of an emerging god or become one himself, so there are bound to be some complications along the way, like machines being randomly animated.

    And I think you're overestimating the loyalty demons have for one another.

    Simpson was loyal to Satanus because the guy helped him out, but he may lack such loyalty for Mammon.

    Simpson may be doing this just for himself, without Mammons approval or knowledge.

    Also, even if Mammon was behind this and ordered Simpson to do it, why would he inform Paul about it?

    Paul altered his desires but he doesn't control him.

    Hell, Paul said that Mammon could potentially undo the changes that were made.

    The reason he worked with Paul was because he felt that he owed him and that he may have found it profitable.

    But if he no longer feels like he owed him or thinks this is more profitable, then he may not tell Paul anything.

    Also informing Paul about this is a sure fire way of getting him involved and having him try to stop them.

    Paul may not be so comfortable with Hell getting this much power.

    Yes it's becoming a somewhat better place, but it's still Hell and it probably still has a long way to go before it's considered to be anything else than pure evil.
     
  17. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I gotta say it.

    Kryptonians aren't weak to magic. They just aren't invulnerable to it like they are mundane attacks.

    Superman has been hit with magical attacks that hurt him yes, but would have killed just about anyone else (minus those on the team with magical resistance like Diana or Billy)
     
  18. Flightless Man

    Flightless Man Know what you're doing yet?

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    Magical attacks are way less effective than mental effects. Like Zoat mentioned, congured elemental attacks have little to no magic in them.

    Illusion, mental enchanments, and transmutation is generally as easy on a Kryptonian as it is a human.
     
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  19. Doccer

    Doccer Know what you're doing yet?

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    I have a current day Lemmings game app on my phone right now actually.
     
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  20. dxdragon

    dxdragon Versed in the lewd.

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    Huh, I just spent like 10 minutes watching that clip.

    That looks like it could have been a pretty fun game. Wonder if there is a remastered version with modern graphics out there?
     
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    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    Ah right, Oh El NEVER dealt with that Demon Cult...
     
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  22. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    If you mean the Caligula Club, then I think the Angels dealt with them, or at least just the ones that were involved with demons.

    During their invasion they were searching for anything demonic on Earth and got rid of it, so the Club was one of those things.
     
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  23. Dur'id the Druid

    Dur'id the Druid Making the rounds.

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    To be fair, it is more that Kal-El and most other kryptions have no special immunity to magic or a real magic culture other than some high-end martial artist traditions, magic affects them the same as everyone else.
     
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  24. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    There are more modern Lemmings games, but... Some games don't update well.
     
  25. PDV

    PDV The Revelation That Uncertainty is Itself a Answer

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    Paul, if you want to keep your age a secret, you need to think before you say things like that. Lemmings was old when I grew up, and I'm 30.

    (Still in the hall of fame for game design and worth playing, but old.)
     
  26. Coda

    Coda I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    It was new when I played it. :p

    But it's not unreasonable to think that one might have played retro games growing up. My son played Super Metroid when he was 8... and that was in 2015.
     
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    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    Yeah, take the Playstation version.... ugh.
     
  28. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    No, they do. It's just less than they get from regular attacks. Sometimes.

    Darkseid's omega beams are a god killing attack.

    So Superman is more invulnerable to magic that he is "vulnerable" to than New Gods who have no "vulnerability" to magic.

    On the other hand sometimes magic attacks ignore Superman's invulnerability entirely. Like Dracula biting Superman and peircing his skin.

    The fact that Shazam's lightning can hurt Superman says otherwise outside of this fic.
     
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  29. Fellow

    Fellow Know what you're doing yet?

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    That would be great! I personally thought that John was using his powers as a chaos lord to clean house with that group and any other past issues he hadn't been powerful enough tp deal with before. I also have a small hope that Teekl never actually died and is just bound to Constantine now, happily hanging around the man chaos loves.
     
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  30. cereal_lurker

    cereal_lurker Making the rounds.

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    This triggered a question I hadn't though of before... Can Billy transform away from Earth? He's empowered by a Lord of Order who is presumably equally powerful everywhere given the planar source, but he mechanism appears to be bound to Earth's magic system (and gods/heroes). If he got too far away from the Earth (possibly closer to Mars) would his transformation simply undo? That seems like something to be considered when the SI was reviewing scenarios of possible alien invasion/space combat.
     
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