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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    I think Zoat once mentioned that if he's away from the planet then he couldn't transform.

    If he leaves the planet in his transformed state then he'll still be transformed, but he won't be able to change to his mortal form.
     
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  2. cereal_lurker

    cereal_lurker Making the rounds.

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    I must have missed that when it was brought up the first time. Thanks.
     
  3. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Take the Playstation version. Please.
    Captain Marvel's lightning turns a small boy into a superpowered Adonis. It's not regular lightning.
     
  4. Steelplaza

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    Even in the Golden Age comics, Captain Marvel's lightning was treated so many different ways. Just for your interest, there was a really interesting interpretation that showed up a couple of times where Billy basically had the power to transform into Captain Marvel (and vice versa) whenever exposed to any sufficiently strong electrical charge as the trigger for the magic. What the lightning bolt called by saying "SHAZAM" did for him was allow him to summon that electrical charge anywhere as opposed to hoping there was a convenient electrical substation around. I didn't mean that to be arguing with you in any way about how it works in YJ or WtR, I just thought it was an interesting alternate interpretation.
     
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  5. Flightless Man

    Flightless Man Know what you're doing yet?

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    Exception that proves the rule. Shazam bolts are almost all magic and come from a lord of order, containing his power. I said conjured not invoked.

    Edit: I was wrong to be so dismissive, Steelplaza is correct and depending on the version you are also correct. I'm sorry.


    Good point
     
  6. Pentel123

    Pentel123 Getting some practice in, huh?

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    Well, I am finally caught up. That took the better part of way too long.

    Enjoying the story and most of the side ones.

    An emergent god of technology is very interesting. I look forward to seeing how this resolves.

    On a different note, I recently saw the first few episodes of Invincible and wonder how Paul would stack up in that world and what his take on the existing organizations would be.
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    22nd July 2012
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    Kara shakes her head. "I can't see anything out of the ordinary either. Not that I spend a lot of time staring at breakfast cereal factories."

    I feel so cut off from my roots. I honestly have no idea if 'Weetiebrix' is an off-brand Weetabix, its parallel universe replacement, or something completely different. The factory looks like it's in reasonably good condition… I don't know anything about breakfast cereal production. Hasn't really come up until now. Is it strange that there's a site in London still in production? A quick ring search says 'slightly, but not significantly', and a check on the company's finances doesn't show any significant irregularities.

    Anything odd about this place? Any-.

    Oh. That makes a painful amount of sense.

    This is where Richard Simpson died. They found the charred remains of his body in the building's control room one morning, John Constantine having got in and out without troubling either the security guards or the security cameras. No one had any idea how it happened. The coroner's report had an open verdict as no one could really believe that an electrical surge could do that much damage to him without leaving any other sign.

    And since relocating to Hell, he's been into demonic technology.



    Guess I can tell Lord Fate he can take the rest of the day off. Now I've just got to arm-twist Mr. Simpson into telling me what he's playing at.

    "Gemma, did John ever talk to you about Richard Simpson?"

    She thinks for a moment. "Richie Simpson?" I nod. "I think he mentioned him. I don't remember what he said. Why?"

    "I think that's who we're going to meet."

    She frowns. "Isn't he dead?"

    "Sort of. He wasn't in his body when it died and then he downloaded his consciousness into a demon lord's avatar. I've met him and he seemed reasonably rational. No idea what he wants with you, though."

    She strides forward towards the building. "Only one way to find out."

    "That's not exactly true."

    She glances back at me like I'm an idiot. "That's what you say."

    "When it's true. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense."

    She shakes her head and walks faster.

    "Kara, if he just wants to negotiate or something, I'll handle it. If this is some sort of ambush, grab Gemma and fall back."

    "I thought you said you knew him?"

    "Yes, but we're not friends or allies. And as far as I can tell, gaining power is what demons are most interested in. Depending on how assimilated he's become, violence is very much on the cards."

    "Alright, I'll keep watch. Be careful."

    "Thank you, but I'm in the wrong job for 'careful'."

    I fly towards the building, picking Gemma up and unlocking-. The magnetic lock on the door is already inactive. I open the door and fly us both in. The room where Mr. Simpson died has been entirely rewired when they redid the factory's IT systems-. The cameras aren't recording us, the alarms aren't sounding and the internal card-reader operated doors aren't requiring a card.

    Someone was definitely waiting for us.

    I stop just outside the offices containing the control centre.

    "What does the clock say?"

    She pulls it out of her back and shows me.

    'C0∩∩E C105ER'

    "He sounds creepy."

    "He's a demon technology fetishist. Unless you're secretly a gynoid, you should be safe."

    "Gywhat?"

    "Synthetic device patterned in the likeness of a woman. A girl robot."

    "Oh. Okay." She looks into the offices. "So I just go in there?"

    "I'll hang back, and jump in the moment anything happens. You've got your ward, so I'll have plenty of time."

    "You know… You don't have to jump right in. He's going to be happier talking to me, isn't he? I mean, he's not going to see me as a threat."

    "While true, I don't intend to risk you when I'm fairly confident that I can compel him to talk."

    "Won't he just know you're here? He's got control of the cameras, right?"

    I shrug. "Then he knows. But my warding tattoos make me invisible to magic, even if there's a camera involved."

    She takes this in.

    "Can I get tattoos like that?"

    "Certainly. Just as soon as you have your eighteenth birthday, or-."

    "That's-!"

    "OR." She looks at me with very low expectations. "Get your father's permission."

    She sullens, sighs teenagerly, then trudges towards the control room.

    Hm. Alright. Mr. Simpson is -or rather was- an expert on electronic mysticism. But he's been in hell for a few years and IT is a fast moving area. I don't remember him having anything to do with Rosacarnis in the comics despite him possessing the father she hated. Here they're nominal allies, but how much access to up-to-date technology does he actually have? I mean, his demonic machinery looked modern enough…

    "Alright clock, I'm here. What is it?"

    She propped the door open, good. I don't want to scan because those can be detected, but I can use empathic vision to keep an eye on the room she's in.

    "Plug you in? Why?"

    She's saying it loud for my benefit. Good girl.

    "Ah, okay? But how's that going to help… Fine."

    You can't plug a clock radio into a computer. But you can plug it into a wall socket next to a plug from a computer, and use sympathetic resonance to link the two. So he wants access to the computer in the place where he died. I don't think that's enough for a summoning, not for a demon of his raw power. And he can't possess Gemma unless she does something silly and voluntarily vacates her body.

    "And put what on my head? I don't think so. Where's Uncle John?"

    "Paul?" Kara sounds concerned. "There are people moving towards the factory outside."

    "That's fine. The more resources he commits, the better."

    "Hey there, Gemma. I'm-."

    "Richie Simpson. You died here. What do you want?"

    "Oh. You, actually."
     
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    A bunch of open size tags.

    wards -> towards, unless some people are busy fiddling with magical protections.
     
  9. Darko

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    Yep, it's him.

    For a demon, which isn't exactly a high bar.

    'has been'

    'when they'

    'saying it'

    She is a Constantine.

    Doing stupid shit is kinda in the blood.
     
  10. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Last part reads a little jumbled.

    Anyway, Paul seems a bit too overconfident again.

    But then we know he doesn't think baseline anymore.

    He is so averse to inefficiency he doesn't leave enough room for the unexpected.
     
  11. Idkusername

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    You could say he’s becoming too...

    *shades* :cool:

    ...Orderly.
     
  12. Mr Zoat

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    If I correct it before you post then it doesn't count.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  13. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I mean god damn it OL.

    Did you really just....We need a dope slap the MC button.
     
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    They were still there after I reloaded the page after editing my comment. In fact, at least one still is.


    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    Any engineer would slap him silly.

    Not enough redundancies.

    Fun Fact: The first mind trranfer tech to ever exist in DC transfered a male mad scientist mind into a woman's body.
     
  16. Chojin Patriarch

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    Not unusual. Especially if the city expanded around the factory. But an abandoned factory just smacks of 'trap'. I would be taking entry very carefully and very slowly.

    It's clearly something Constantine-related, isn't it?

    Ah. Okay, earlyriser, you called it! Now, to see whether he's acting alone, working on something for Mammon or pulling a revenge play on John Constantine...

    I would keep investigating. This may be a side-plot, Simpson taking advantage of the weird stuff to make his own play.

    Probably a good thing she doesn't know details. But at least she'll be on her guard.

    Death is such a trivial side-trip to some people's lives... In DC, people don't always die when they are killed, to borrow the meme...

    Don't be so eager, little missy. What if he wants to flay you alive? Or worse, use you as bait for your uncle?

    Gemma, the man has quite possibly the greatest tool in the universe on his finger, powered solely by his wanting something. There are always multiple ways to do something when that's involved.

    Argh. Teenagers.

    Yes, and that's why he's saying this. Simpson is not someone you want to trust with anything, unless you have him on a very short, very painful leash. And even then, be wary.

    At least 'surprise Kryptonian interrupt' is a good trump card.

    Yes, that's not worrying at all. Someone has prepared their ground very well, and the snare has bait in it... Unfortunately, the only option seems to be setting off the trap and surviving.

    Because of course Simpson has set up in there...

    Laying it on thick, huh? This is going to suck.

    Heh. Now I picture Succubuses wearing metal plates futilely trying to get his attention as he assembles a robotic love doll...

    Which makes it a little annoying when you hear someone refer to one as an android, because it sounds fancy and sci-fi-y... :rolleyes: Usually because some writers tend not to deal with things outside their knowledge base well...

    ...You hope. Not that you want her to know that...

    Remind me, has he branded Simpson before? Surprised he doesn't just go for it from out here...

    Oh, don't tell her that... She'll want...

    ...Some of her own. To be fair, she's a Constantine, and very much like her uncle.

    And there's more chance of Mammon calling up asking about the sudden snowfall Down Below before that happens...

    To be honest, above a certain point, all technology tends to look the same, and not just in trends of form factor and user interface... Even under the hood, things tend towards a standard...

    Just watch out for something big enough to cause backlash. Remember what happened to Dox? (Yes, I know, not Empathic vision, but still...)

    Well, she is a Constantine. Smarts and sneakiness go hand-in-hand in that line.

    Even then, he'd have to go through the ward to get anywhere, whether by charm or by force. And she's too wary to allow anything.

    Crap. He has backup? Or is someone else coming to this party? Could it be John, having picked up on the threat to his blood?

    Yes, turn up the sleaze. That's surely going to make her do what you want, Simpson.

    Heh, he actually sounds surprised. Not sure why, OL was bound to have warned her when he saw where they were.

    Welp, evidently he wanted bait for John... Lets see if he's about to bite off more than he can chew. Because someone is about to crash this party. Now, to wonder who it might be? Mammon's people, presuming Simpson ducked out without leave? Enemies of John looking for a chance to grab leverage? A group working for John, as unlikely as that might sound? ;) Hopefully we get to find out tomorrow!
     
  17. Darko

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    But she's such a pleasant person to meet.

    Nope, I think the only demon he branded was Mammon.

    Simpson probably has some defences set up and Paul may be worried he'll escape.
     
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    Sockmonkey Not too sore, are you?

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    Yeah, really starting to miss Common Sense OL.
    He should have called in Zuariel the second he saw the connection to Simpson.
     
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    King of Frost Wishing I was somewhere colder no doubt.

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    There were apparently a bunch of these that got fixed but there's still one.
     
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    NightmareWarden Not too sore, are you?

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    Remember when demon-Paul was trapped by a mere circle of salt laid by mister blood? Is it really so ridiculous the the niece of Constantine would make a protective salt circle around herself before obeying a clock-possessing magical creature? Regardless of if it was a demon?


    This might go poorly.
     
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    So it's just your average Demon plot... How utterly disappointing...
     
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    I'm totally blaming the website for that.
     
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    It's not overconfident if you never lose or even suffer more then a minor inconvenience.

    It's pattern recognition.
     
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    Pez Not too sore, are you?

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    Paul died. Then came back with a zenkai boost. Plus, on Earth he has allies he can quickly call upon if needed.
     
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    Sorry, someone asked about Invincible a few days ago. I don't know all that much about either the comic series or the animated series. The fights I've seen in YouTube clips appear to be equipment-light low skill affairs, with characters whaling on each other until someone breaks. Heck, with how much they appear to have weakened Omni-Man from the comics, he's probably dropped to non-threat level to a skilled Lantern.

    Your question gave me a half-baked idea for an omake where the SI is Rex Splode's foster father, but I doubt that I'll ever actually write it.
     
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    Showing Zoat hasn't actually watched Invincible or even the clips.



    It's actually the opposite of that, comics Omniman lost his powers during this time and even getting them back needed Rebel help to conquer the planet, while Cartoon Omniman didn't loose his powers and soloed it in seconds.
     
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    Well not even that. But this is John's niece....OL should clearly know that she'd be bait.

    I'm not even saying she's actually in danger, in the sense that he will be unable to help fast enough.

    If I didn't know better, I'd say he was deliberately trying to get her into a dangerous situation to draw John out.
     
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    "Yeah. Sorry about this. Nothing personal, but I'm in the middle of something important and I don't want John getting involved. So I'm going to stick you somewhere out of the way and feed him clues about where you are until I'm finished."

    The ring shows me… I'm not sure that they're cultists, but the colour-associations seem to-. Yes. Looks like Richard answered an arcane plea for help during the Sheeda invasion and they're happy to pay him back by working for him rather than something more extreme. When you owe a debt to a demon, you're lucky if they don't just drag you into Hell because they got bored.

    "But I don't know where Uncle John is. He disappeared."

    "Then look at this as a holiday."

    "Okay, I'm leaving. Weirdo."

    "Don't you want to know where he is?"

    "You just told me that you don’t know."

    "That's true. I don't. But if I tell enough people that I've taken you, he'll hear about it. And then he'll come to get you, and we'll both know where he is."

    "Or he won't, because he's not listening."

    "Okay. What do you want?"

    "What do you mean, 'what do I want'?"

    "I don't want to make this any harder than it needs to be. And I don't want to hurt you. OrI mean, I wouldn't exactly be broken up about it, but I'm not aiming to hurt John. I just want him distracted. Once I'm finished, you'll both be free to go. So what do you want, that'll make you go along with it?"



    "What have you got?"

    Because she wouldn't be a Constantine if that sort of offer wasn't near-irresistible.

    "I'm Overlord of The Odium. A whole circle of Hell does what I tell it to. Magic? Knowledge? Technology? Whatever I've got, in exchange for you disappearing for a week or two."

    "You're a demon."

    "I'm... Currently a demon, yes. But I used to be a man. And demons might be nastier, but they're also a lot more honest."

    "Honest. Really."

    "I know, it doesn't sound very likely. But demons are actually pretty rule-abiding. If we make a pact, I'll have to stick to it."

    "Or what?"

    "I just have to. It's built in. Hasn't John told you about this?"

    "… No."

    "Really? This is basic stuff. Why did you think demons bother with pacts in the first place?"

    "Same reason why cats play with birds they've caught. What are you trying to do, anyway?"

    "I don't-. … If you agree to be bound so you can't tell John, I'll tell you."

    "If you're such a powerful demon, how come you're so worried about Uncle John?"

    "Because he's a Lord of Order and a Lord of Chaos! I'd love to try and work out how he did it, but if there's anything I've learned in Hell it's that there are things and people you don't mess around with if you can avoid it. And he's both."

    "Both? How's that work?"

    "I'm happy to explain it to you. If-."

    "If I agree to help you."

    "It's not as if you'll be doing anything. Just keeping out of the way for a few days."

    "And you won't hurt Uncle John?"

    "I don't really think I could. But sure. I won't try to hurt him."

    "Or tell other people to?"

    "You're a sharp one, aren't you? Not that I'd have tried anything serious, but if John's really angry I'd still like to be able to, you know, throw a minion or two at him to keep him away from me. And it's not really fair to them if I tell them they can't hurt him."

    "Is Uncle John really that-?"

    The door behind me opens as the first cultist strolls in.

    "…handle a-."

    He sees me, his eyes widen, then his body locks up as a filament usurps control of his peripheral nervous system. And march him out of the way. I'm assuming that Richard is monitoring them by magic, but my tattoos should still prevent him from seeing me. If Gemma has his full attention then he shouldn't immediately notice that his minions are distracted.

    "Gary? What-?"

    A filament each for each of the other three, who will soon be facing Attempted Kidnapping charges with their ropes and chloroform as evidence. In case Richard is monitoring them I slowly puppet-walk them towards the control room. The rest of the cultists appear to be spreading out throughout the building, covering doors and other likely escape routes.

    "I… Suppose that… Sounds fair."

    "Great! Pick your finger and bleed a little on the screen, and we'll have a pact."

    "If it's just my blood, how is that supposed to bind you?"

    "Because I'm using my magic. My consciousness is magic-based. Demons only have blood when they're supporting their material avatars with sympathetic magic."

    "I don't believe you."

    "Okay. This is..." I hear him sigh. "What guarantee do you want?"

    "I want you here in person."

    "That doesn't-. I don't work like that. I've got a distributed consciousness. If-."

    "I don't believe you."

    "And this is it? If I come to you and we bind our agreement with our blood, you'll accept it?"

    "Yeah?"

    "Okay. Cabinet on the right. Get a few multi-sockets out, plug them into each other to create a circle and then put in on the floor."

    "Okay?"

    "Then put the clock radio down in the middle and take a few steps back."

    "Okay."

    "And then give me a minute because this is a right mind-bender."
     
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    Lmao. Yeah, John must be really scary for demons right now.
     
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    Okay, I had to like just for that.

    He..he he.. hahaha!! The size tag strikes again!

    ...What? What’d you think I meant?
     
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