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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. DbDRAKE

    DbDRAKE Possibly some sort of Actual Dragon?

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    I really like the extent to which OL will humor people.

    It's like, If you got UNLIMITED POWER, you wouldn't suddenly become a raging asshole for no reason.

    If anything, it would become easyer to express you preferences vis giving other people charity and time, because it would cost you less / nothing.
     
  2. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.
    Thank you, corrected.
    No, those are correct.
    Yes.
    Rings can do simply auditory messages as well.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  3. Lothlo

    Lothlo Know what you're doing yet?

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    Just teleport to their homeplanet and carve in their homeworld moon, or a planet's surface on their home system a big Orange Lantern Symbol. I think it is a strong message that they are not safe.
     
  4. Ardy

    Ardy Not too sore, are you?

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    Wait, who other than the citadelians did Paul genocide? I know he helped kill all the eye priests, and a lot of the Sheeda, but what other genocide?
     
  5. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    The Psions.

    He mentioned clone species and the Psions are that in this story.

    Granted while he did participate in that genocide he just helped rescue some people.
     
  6. Ardy

    Ardy Not too sore, are you?

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    they weren’t a clone species though and they were already dead when he got there.
     
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  7. Steelplaza

    Steelplaza Custom Title

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    Unblockable? No, OL is by no means assuming that. We've seen on NEMO's side that they were able to mess with it in a positive way by allowing OL to carry a fleet along with him, so it's probably possible to mess with it in a negative way as well.

    As I recall, the SI is of the opinion that the Reach will inevitably figure out some kind of defense sooner or later, and that's one reason he hasn't been pulling the kind of thing you suggest. More uses give the Reach more chances to experiment in detecting and stopping it. Better to not to advance their education unless strategically necessary.
     
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  8. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    They were vat grown though, and indoctrinated extensively, so I guess it's just semantics.

    And I think a few were still alive, but died quickly.
     
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  9. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Mr Zoat, for some reason, both of these links are linked to part 10.
     
  10. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, fixed.
     
  11. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    This part is now in the 2010 folder.
     
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  12. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey Not too sore, are you?

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    NEMO wasn't messing with the greedport itself. They were shielding the passengers from the negative effects of passing through the honden.
     
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  13. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Okay, should be fixed now.
     
  14. Coda

    Coda I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    My intuition is telling me that this should be "The Reach don't have" in British English? But I'm not the native speaker here so I leave it up to you.

    "for then", because "for them" would mean they've scheduled it for during the ten years instead of after.
     
  15. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  16. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Apes.

    Humans are apes, not monkeys
     
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  17. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 Know what you're doing yet?

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    If we're being specific then it would actually be Great Apes, not just normal apes.

    Pedantic, I know, but the same could be said about the monkey vs ape correction, so meh.
     
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  18. BlueMangoAdea

    BlueMangoAdea Alive. For now.

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    Eh. Apes are closer than monkeys are, but going back farther, there would be a common ancestor for all the monkeys, apes, and humans, which could be called a monkey.
     
  19. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 Know what you're doing yet?

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    If you want to go far back enough then you can argue that a banana and a giraffe are basically the same thing because literally all life on Earth has a common ancestor. We obviously don't because going far back enough for that to be sort of, technically true would basically place you on an alien planet (well that and other stuff).

    For what you said we'd go back to... around the Jurassic Period I believe. Which is when we, and all mammalian life really, were still basically mice.
     
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  20. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Look, humans are arrogant enough enough without classifying them as "Great". Can they shoot lasers out of their mouths like the Space-Monkeys? I think not.

    We haven't even reached King Kong levels yet.

    If three different species descended from it, why would would keep the name but the other two not?

    Clearly, this parent, would be named "Hairy, screamy thingy"
     
  21. BlueMangoAdea

    BlueMangoAdea Alive. For now.

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    Fair enough. OL should have used the word primate instead, then. I personally think using the word "monkey" in a general way to refer to the taxonomic order isn't too inapropriate, though.
     
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  22. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Speaking as a resident of Great Britain, you don't have to be very great to be Great.

    Much like how you don't have to be very united to be United.
     
  23. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Hilariously, I don't know anyone who calls the United States that. Just "America"
     
  24. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    It's commonly just called "The States" or "US" ( 'yew ess' for the phonetically minded types) around here....I don't know if it's the fact that we share the land mass of the same name with them, but we tend to leave off the "America" part.

    It's like Hockey.....we just Assume it's on Ice unless stated otherwise.

    Which I guess is a bit odd, since no one goes around calling us "The Dominion"
     
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  25. Radix

    Radix Getting sticky.

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    Primates largely arose in the Cenozoic era approximately 55 million years ago. The only thing you get by calling us primates instead of monkeys is that you are including Tarsiers and Lemurs.

    Hominoidea evolved from Old World Monkeys about 25 million years ago. That is what would generally be considered Apes, both lesser and great. The distinction of lesser vs great apes is largely in regards to size.

    We did evolve from Monkeys in the sense that they had tails, and we together with New World Monkeys and Old World Monkeys are Simians or Anthropods. So yes, it is perfectly valid to describe us as descending from Monkeys.

    So Humans are both apes, and great apes within that categorization. While we are not longer monkeys, we are descended from monkeys, or at least a common ancestor with monkeys who would have many traits similar to monkeys than what we have. They would definitely have tails given that tails existed before the New World/Old World branch occurred which was before the ape divergence.
     
  26. Threadmarks: Negetiations (part 12)
    Mr Zoat

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    12th August 2012
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    "Yes?" I frown at Lantern Drusa as we lurk in small café in a less-frequented corner of the city. "We know the Reach use this place as a high value import hub, that's not news."

    "This ship is."

    I don't recognise the design, but that doesn't mean much. While some major shipyards have standard designs on file, the galaxy is vast. Plenty of shipyards build custom ships without any record of their work getting into wider circulation. This one… Looks like a base hull with an extra module stuck on top. Extra sublight engines, maybe?

    I shrug. "It's very red."

    "Local records show that they frequently sell unusual items to the Reach, amongst others."

    "It hasn't made much difference yet." I shrug again. "Why are you so worried about this visit?"

    "They were last seen on D'xe, a world that was briefly ruled by its Green Lantern."

    I nod. Jordan submitted a brief report on it. Green Lanterns going rogue is… Well, honestly, since they usually recruit from martial societies, it's not uncommon for Lanterns to push the boundaries a bit. Flat out taking over their homeworld is unusual, but Lantern Kaylark apparently went completely supervillain at one point. Started calling herself 'Empress Surrenda'.

    Sounds like one of the people Diana used to fight back in the forties.

    "And?"

    "A Lantern with an excellent record, who attempted to enslave her world."

    I frown. "You think they've got some sort of anti-Lantern weapon? Something that affects our mental state? Because in my case, that seems unlikely to work."

    "We're not all you. And we're far more unstable than Green Lanterns." She considers the image. "I don't know that they have a weapon, but when they arrived they were immediately put in contact with the Negotiator."

    "It seems more likely that they were gathering data rather than picking up a weapon. Goodness knows that Jordan isn't the most thorough operative at times, but if he found something that drove Lanterns crazy then he'd have destroyed it."

    "And all records of it?"

    I snort quietly. "Sorry, 'Surrenda' looked like a supervillain so I assumed that she didn't bother with backups. I suppose it's… Possible, but it seems a bit flimsy."

    "Then why is she here?"

    The ring brings up an image of Lantern K'ryssma, showing her drop out of warp at the same point from which the… 'Free Lancers' entered the system, and then head towards Yuna. No pilot for her, I note. I frown and look up… There she is.

    "It's not specifically our concern, but I suppose that it wouldn't hurt to ask"

    Lantern Drusa frowns. "Ask her?"

    "The Green Lantern Corps had a major war against the Reach a while back. Lantern K'ryssma doesn't want the Reach to expand, and if these people really have picked up an anti-Lantern weapon then it's in both our interests to stop them. Counterpoint?"

    "If there is a weapon, getting sole access to it gives us an advantage."

    I shrug. "Against who? I don't remember any reports of the world around D'xe having any noticeable outbreaks of megalomaniacs, so if it works on Lanterns then it just works on Lanterns. We don't want to fight Green Lanterns and they don't want to fight us. Larfleeze is in a holding cell, Sinestro is one guy and the Zamarons are undergoing a culture shift in our favour. Having an improved anti-Lantern weapon is just going to create entirely unnecessary trouble."

    She doesn't look convinced.

    "Look, if you're really worried about fighting a Green Lantern then you can spend some time with one on Earth. We've got, like, five of them now. They're not that hard to beat." I hold out my left hand. "Illustres to Honour Guard Lantern K'ryssma."

    My ring shimmers, then her head appears over the sigil.

    "Oh. You again."

    "What brings you back to this region?"

    "Your war. The Green Lantern Corps wishes to ensure that it is contained within Reach space. There are a vast number of inhabited worlds in this region of space who could be affected if the fighting spills beyond their borders."

    "No concern for their Controller cousins?"

    "The Guardians are concerned for all life, not just their own distant relatives."

    "Anything I can help with? I doubt that there are enough Green Lanterns around here to properly protect a region this large, and they are our neighbours. We've got no interest in alienating them."

    "If a situation where you can help occurs, I will let you know."

    "Rightoh. And of course… If you'd like to get involved, we'd be happy to have you."

    "The Green Lantern Corps has a ceasefire agreement with the Reach. We will not invalidate our word by being the ones who break it."

    "Well… There's two obvious ways around that. You could just act as a neutral observer. We'd be happy to offer you a base to work from while monitoring the conduct of the war. Or protecting people liberated from Reach control. Or if you want to get more involved, you… Could request a leave of absence from the Green Lantern Corps and take up an orange ring. The change in mindset is rather substantial, but you could probably handle it. And if not then it would still be fascinating to see how it goes."

    "I will pass on your offer to allow observers to the Guardians. I will certainly not leave the Green Lantern Corps for you."

    "Lantern K'ryssma… I don't matter. I could drop dead right now and the war would continue in pretty much the same way. And even if I did matter, I wouldn't expect you to do something as a favour to a man you met once. However, if you're even somewhat interested in the wellbeing of the people of this region of space, making sure that the campaign to liberate them goes well does seem like the sort of thing a socially responsible Lantern might do."

    "I am not so confident that you will win."

    "Hey, if you know someone with a better chance, go join up with them instead. But the Guardians have demonstrated that they're not interested in taking this fight, so… They're definitely not it. We aren't targeting serving Green Lanterns for recruitment, but they're going to hear about us eventually."

    "They already have."

    Hm. The nice thing about being recruited into the Green Lantern Corps is that you can live on your homeworld. Only the relatively small number of Green Lanterns whose Space Sectors are around here would be interested in siding with us simply due to the commute. K'ryssma isn't local…

    "Oh? Are you here to steady wavering local Greenies?"

    "No. If they wish to join in your crusade then they are free to leave the Corps and apply to join you. Have any?"

    I nod. "So it is the D'xe thing!"

    And I open my empathic vision wide.
     
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  27. BlueMangoAdea

    BlueMangoAdea Alive. For now.

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    When in doubt, use divination.
     
  28. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    'They were'

    I read the wiki page and it said that that was just a test.

    Guess it was different here.

    I know the Guardians don't have problems with their Lanterns ruling worlds, so long as they don't use the rings to take over.

    One Lantern was actually the ruler of her people, but she seemed to have been legit.

    Murphy lover.

    And in many ways that is good.

    Or it can work on non Lanterns, but they were just interested in the Lantern.

    Who can do some pretty big damage and may be recruiting people.

    You could potentially use it to take down any Orange Lanterns that go rogue.

    By you.

    Others may find it more difficult.

    And I don't think you ever seriously fought a Lantern before, aside from ambushing Steward from the JL Unlimited universe, so having a serious fight with one may be much more difficult.

    I can hear her annoyance.

    'these are'
     
  29. rkyeun

    rkyeun Cabbitus Maximus

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    BlueMangoAdea Alive. For now.

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    I don't think Paul needs it to shut down rogue Orange Lanterns. Just "you may not use our light" them.
     
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