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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Zoat did once mention a potential future scenario of renegade going to the Babylon 5 universe.
     
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  2. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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  3. Mastigos2

    Mastigos2 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Not just that. It also makes them think the Orange Lanterns are covering up OL's death and trying to play it off as "naw, our spiritual leader totally survived that assassination attempt by using his miraculous powers"
     
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  4. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I think that's it.
     
  5. jasonh23761

    jasonh23761 Getting sticky.

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    I like Duke Oswin! That's a motivation and drive I can respect.
     
  6. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    Hmm, what emotion best corresponds to 'noble intentions?' Will? Hope? Something else?
     
  7. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Found an old error. That should be 'own secretary in the future'.
     
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  8. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Indigo probably.

    I think that's a way British people say it.
     
  9. Radix

    Radix Getting sticky.

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    I think there is some difference between Avarice and desire. Wanting to achieve something isnt the same as what fuels the orange light.


    On a separate note, I can really appreciate Duke Oswin. It is the exact same mentality I have. No need to be on top, just to have something yours and have it do well.
     
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  10. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I'm afraid so.
     
  11. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    Different Universe and he would need six rings.

    Also they only really work against evil people.

    If other Grayven is not really evil...
     
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  12. PDV

    PDV The Revelation That Uncertainty is Itself a Answer

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  13. l---erddad---l

    l---erddad---l Wait, google can see this?

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    In addition to all the other factors involved, even if it was on the table as a power source, the Elements of Harmony explicitly have a very limited power source. They had to be returned to the Tree of Harmony in order to get it functional again, so it might not work very well as a power source for a Lantern Corps.
     
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  14. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    I have a feeling he'd stab one with a three edged sword. Just for the irony.
     
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  15. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    Australians as well.
     
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  16. Threadmarks: Negetiations (part 9)
    Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    12th August 2012
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    Local formal wear involves blinkers, a mouth mask and what looks a lot like a tracksuit. I mean, it's not exactly a tracksuit, but it would probably go in the tracksuit section of a catalogue.

    "Excuse me sir?"

    I actually used to own a tracksuit like this, back when I was in my teens. I suspect that I inherited it from my cousin, Peter. Blue with a white zip. I liked it.

    "Excuse me, madam?"

    I mean, that probably was the first piece of evidence that I shouldn't be allowed to buy my own clothes or dress myself, but what's fashionable on one world isn't going to be what's fashionable on another. Maybe I was just… Fashionably displaced?

    "Excuse me, madam?"

    The local woman whose attention I was trying to get actually stops and looks at me.

    "Yes?"

    "Hello! I work for the canvassing firm Wolwald and [click-click], and I was wondering if you had time to answer a few questions about current affairs?"

    "Canvassing?"

    "Yes, ma'am. People like me are sent out to various locations across the planet to ask people things, then those answers get tabulated and used to assist in policy-forming."

    She straightens up. "Government policy?"

    "Ah, well, honestly…" I give a self-depreciating chuckle. "Anyone who pays us for our insight. Governments who are trying to actually do what people want, corporations who are interested in finding out if there's a market for certain products and services. And the feedback from any one person isn't really that significant, so I don't want to.. try and convince you that this.. will directly result in change to any particular…"

    "No, no, I understand." She looks around. "I can.. spare a few minutes."

    "Thank you. Our take-up rate is very low, and we're grateful to everyone who agrees to answer."

    I make a show of activating my datapad.

    "Now, this is all fairly basic stuff, and I'm only interested in your opinion, but if there's anything here that you don't feel comfortable answering, just let me know and we'll move right along."

    I start with basic things: personal background stuff so that we can place her but nothing so intrusive that it's off-putting. Just to get us talking and get her comfortable sharing information. Then economics, or rather perception-economics. Do you feel better off than a year ago? Than five years ago? Is a greater proportion of your income going on necessities? I don't imagine that Professor Prokopios would be particularly impressed, but that's not the point.

    The point is that I'm constantly scanning her with empathic vision.

    Not super-deep, though I'm now pretty sure that no one would detect it if I did. Just enough to know how strongly she feels about a particular topic, and how those feelings work together to form a particular worldview. Which combined with the people I've already spoken to gives me a pretty good picture of… One small area of one city. And I know perfectly well that capital cities aren't representative of other cities, to say nothing of countryside areas.

    But this is the environment their government works in. I may know humans the best, but other humanoids tend to fall into similar patterns a lot of the time. If you build an echo chamber, you're going to hear an echo.

    "How do you feel about Yuna's trading relationships with other stellar nations?"

    "What, on the whole? Well it's obvious; being a trading point for just about everyone has made us rich."

    I nod. Not exactly what I meant, but I don't want to directly contradict her.

    "Are you happy with the terms of trade offered to each of Yuna's trading partners?"

    "I don’t think I understand. Why wouldn't I be?"

    "No, no, if you're not then you're not. But many governments charge different levels of tariffs to foreign governments they have good relations with, or with whom they have reciprocal agreements."

    "Um, no, no, I don't think our government should get involved in that sort of power bloc building." She shakes her head. "We're better off neutral. I mean, the places closest to us or with the most advanced technology are going to benefit most anyway, aren't they?"

    I make a show of writing that down.

    "That's a perfectly fine answer. I'm interested in what you think, and if that's what you think then that's what you think. Ah, do you mean that as a starting point, or under any circumstances?"

    "What do you mean by 'any circumstances'?"

    "Well, are there any things that another stellar nation could do that you think would mean that the government of Yuna should change their terms relative to other nations that Yuna trades with. For example, there is currently no prohibition against one nation targeting the trading ships of another that were coming here."

    "I… I'd prefer it if they didn't, obviously, but other than going to war ourselves I don't see how we'd stop them. I don't think two planets or empires who were at war with each other would care about what we said."

    "Okay, that's fine."

    And she means it. In common with the other members of her species that I've spoken to, she has almost no interest in actively engaging with the universe around her. That might mean that Dox was worrying over nothing regarding privateers, or that government policy only lines up approximately with the desires of the people. Or with what the people think government policy is.

    "Are you personally aware of any major interstellar wars happening at the moment?"

    "I think the Jarixians and the Phemenites had some sort of skirmish a little while ago."

    "Okay." I make a note. "Anything else?"

    "Ah… No? But it's not really something I pay much attention to."

    Which does actually make sense. She's not a futures trader or anything like that. Most of Yuna's revenue comes from trade, but they're not dependent on any one trading partner. If a couple of them decide to go to war, it doesn't impact the overall economy of the planet all that much.

    "That's fine; the fact that you aren't aware of any is useful information in itself."

    And she's fairly representative of all the people I've spoken to. Amongst the people who I'd expect to be most politically aware -at least as far as interstellar politics goes- about two thirds are aware of the war between N.E.M.O. and the Reach. Some were worried about its effect on their economy due to the sheer number of trading partners affected but none were worried about it spreading here. None felt it warranted a response stronger than a public restatement of existing trade rules or an offer to mediate.

    "Are..? Are there any? I mean, from the way you said it, it sounds like I'm missing one."

    "Ah, well, all across the galaxy as a whole there are a lot of wars, but the galaxy is a very big place and many of the people involved don’t do any trade here."

    "What about the people we do trade with?"

    "I'm afraid that me answering that would colour your responses to the rest of my questions, but if you're curious then I suggest enquiring with the Yunan Public Information Forum."

    "Now, how do you feel about pets?"
     
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  17. Idkusername

    Idkusername Versed in the lewd.

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    Surveys... Truly, there is no low that OL can’t fall to. Want the ends, want the means.
     
  18. dxdragon

    dxdragon Versed in the lewd.

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    Sneaky Paul.

    A clipboard and a suit can really get you anywhere huh? Even on an alien world.

    Plus, he now has a basis to lead his discussions when he eventually gets involved.
     
  19. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    'inherited'

    'woman'

    Among other forms of displaced.

    'governments'
     
  20. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    He is a monster... but still better than charity muggers.
     
  21. doug89

    doug89 Versed in the lewd.

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    "Excuse me?"
    "Eek! Jesus Christ you scared- wait, this is the fifth floor balcony, how'd you get up here?"
    "Power ring. Do you have a moment?"
    "Wait, aren't you the fruitcake guy?"
    "Yes, but that's not important. We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty."
     
  22. Deadring

    Deadring Screee!

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    Can't, or won't? Ends and means are one, true, but there can be many means to the same end. Who could see them all?
     
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  23. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    ...'Blinkers'? Huh. That's an interesting detail for a culture. Definitely suggests people are happy not worrying about anything outside of what's straight ahead of them... But that might also be a bad thing... As for the rest, I'm picturing something slightly baggier than late-season 'Next Generation' Starfleet Uniforms... :p

    Ah, hand-me-downs. Weirdly, some of my favourite clothes were such. Used to have an old short-sleeved sweatshirt that was comfy as hell. Lost track of it last time I moved house... :confused: Which was over twenty years ago. That should say something.

    And it looks like the Gyuanites actually do ignore anything outside their frontal arc, if OL is having this much trouble getting people's attention. As for fashion, some people are simply beyond current trends.

    Amazing! I guess if you're annoying enough, people will interact just to make you leave. Or she's the sort to actually take notice..

    Heh, making up a random company name, just in case. I wonder if he's given each person he successfully bothered into talking to him a different name?

    ...Ah. I sense a little self-importance, there... Well, whatever works to get her talking.

    Still, if she thinks her opinions will make a difference, then more power to her.

    Which has a suitable handwriting-to-text app running, just in case she looks, eh? ;) Just to keep the illusion up, of course.

    And there's why he's doing it. No better way to built up a good cross-section than by random sampling, eh?

    Ha, good way to get around having to flit about the countryside. It is true, though. While the surface texture has changed over the ten thousand years plus that Humanity has been civilised, it still comes down to 'them city folk' compared to 'those yokel farmers'...

    Well, those well-placed to benefit from the trade, I suppose. A lot of that probably wouldn't filter down to the average data-entry clerk or, gods-forbid, the mailroom boys. Merely a higher class of entertainment technology and the like...

    Not that she probably knows what half of those terms are, or who those partners are. But who knows, maybe she likes to play the stock markets as a hobby?

    And let's not get started on the ones they don't like much but need to trade with...

    I wonder how many have given that sort of response? "Better not to stand out, or get involved." Though taht sort is social isolationism might have effects on Reach 'encouragements' towards becoming a 'partner'...

    Ah, now we're getting some tricky questions.

    Oh, how little you know. But they really do seem to have a character of non-involvement...

    Since there's nothing stopping some government committee from deciding that privateers would encourage others to leave them be, or discourage piracy in their space... The joy of large bureaucracies.

    Not quite 'some damn fool thing in the Balkans', then. Assuming their military makes its current actions public...

    More interested in local affairs, eh? Not an uncommon sentiment, I suspect.

    Indeed. As I said, no need for the military to tell people anything...

    All the trouble is 'over there somewhere', rather than on their doorstep, eh? Easy enough for them to decide it'll never turn up...

    Very non-commital, OL. Still not very reassuring.

    Wonder if said Office's website will see a sudden uptick in queries about ongoing wars because of OL's surveys? Would be amusing if that set off something unexpected but harmless...

    I suppose that's one way to build a map of an unfamiliar culture's Desire Networks. And probably one of the least intrusive, on a large scale. And a very unnoticeable way to stay out of sight, reality speaking. After all, who notices the folks taking surveys? Meanwhile, I wonder how Drusa's getting on at the local Reach offices... :p Hopefully doing OL's Trolling skills proud.


    I suspect that I inherited it from my cousin, Peter.
     
  24. doug89

    doug89 Versed in the lewd.

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    Yeah, that's a really curious element. Something like this maybe?

    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  25. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  26. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    And Paul is incredibly annoying, so they'll interact with him even more!

    The more things change the more they stay the same.

    Something that's all too common in our world.
     
  27. Hell's Razer

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    You are thinking of blinders. Like the things we put on horses.
    I suspect blinkers are something else. But I could be mistaken.

    Edit: The lack of knowledge has been rectified.
     
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    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Not having any interest in the wider world, species wide.

    That is a truly baffling alien mindset.

    Resource exploration, interacting with potentially hostile others, building alliances...these things seem so basic for species survival.

    Maybe the Reach don't bother with them because they're so boring? Or alternatively they're the ones who engineered that mindset...
     
  29. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Blinkers and blinders are synonyms.
     
  30. Hell's Razer

    Hell's Razer Passive Member

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    Huh. Well then, learn something new every day. :)
     
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