With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

'Any technology' would require it to be magic. If it's just automatically hacking everything, that's simpler but it wouldn't do anything to power rings.

 

In story, Paul was unable to see Mister Terrific when the latter snuck up on him. Was that tech or magic?

Edit: Never mind. I misremembered the fight. He teleported his T-Spheres to Paul's location, and it was a hologram that appeared before Paul.

 

Are we about to get a timeskip?

 

The Reach can build nonmagical weapons that can kill gods. It's possible that he's built a device that works on some conceptual level, manipulates the Cosmic Superstructure to censor itself from observation, or uses some sort of passive technopathy field to censor the readings of amy device that detects him.

That last is probably the most plausible, since his T-Spheres are thought-controlled, so artificial technopathy devices are definitely something he's capable of.

 

You can see Mr. Terrific by looking at him. And he was disinterested in magic prior to becoming a superhero. So either something took a liking to him without him noticing, or it's something less significant.

 

I've heard all super-science in DC was explained by the phenomenon as the "Meta-Scientist" They are scientists that unconsciously bend the laws of physics and reality around them so anything they make or do can work despite being impossible by all known laws of science. Only so many people at a time are Meta-Scientists and all of them believe everything they do is normal because part of how their abilities work is they have to believe whatever tech they make works the way it does despite not making sense to the rest of the world. It's an interesting theory though not widely used in comics.

 

Eyeballs aren't "technology". A robot wouldn't be able to see him, for instance. I don't think someone wearing night-vision goggles could, either.

Also, psychic powers are different to magic in DC. The former are powered by the Collective Unconscious, the latter are powered by the Godsphere.

 

How about if we assume Mr Terrific disassembled some of his equipment in order to build more T-drones and upgrade them for magitech? So right now he isn’t “immune to detection by scrying,” but he could be in the future. Once he has sufficient time and resources.


I feel a bit bad for Overman and Superman (moreso the former). They didn’t get to give Demon-Superman a fair fight. By the end they were giving super speed blows to the head of someone quite frazzled, y’know?

I wonder now not-Supergirl Kara might react to this news about Demon Superman. Well, she already knows about Nazi Superman… Ah well, probably not going to come up.

 

I see even DC isn't free of Worm infections.

 

Not used at all in the comics that I can recall.

That being said, there is that Doom Patrol storyline that reveals that humanity is descended from genderfluid shapeshifting reality warpers and that the Tower of Babel built by a society of those genderfluid shapeshifting reality warpers who are massive buzzkills is what causes humans to be limited to things like say, reality.

In a story using that as the backstory, well, then, it would make perfect sense for superscientists to be reality warpers because reality warping is the primal birthright of humanity.

 

Here's how I would go about making super scientists. I would have their creations work by using exotic energies and materials, which they synthesize through the use of their reality bending powers. Like Nth metal. This story has portrayed Nth metal as being an exotic, potentially magical, material whose properties are determined by its structure. But when it comes to synthesizing this structure, the process is unreasonably difficult. A super scientist, in my head, would be able to use some made up process that only works for them to gain access to these materials, in order to really push the capabilities of their tech. They could also get free design specifications plopped into their head as well, to make it truly easy for them to make the crazy stuff.

 

I thought our Light was pilfering them of their lonely goodies? To attack them would require heroic desires?

Mr Zoat
Why didn't Paul get those coins understood so he can add them to his trenchcoat of empowerment for the underpowered? Why not offer Danner Formula to the Amazons to get them to help? And is there a Paul that couldn't find a battery so he grabbed those magic coins to empower himself? A Super!Paul if you will?

 

Captain Action Paul, that's where the coins came from.

Rather blatantly actually, three of the coins are fused together- Zeus, Heimdall, Hercules.

That happened in Captain Action.

He wore the three coins in a ring and gave the speed of Mercury to his son.

So yes, I happen to think an alt.Paul with a magic power ring that gives him the lightning of Zeus, Strength of Hercules and senses of Heimdall quite appropriate.

But that's apparently a little too off theme for Zoat.

 

Whatever happened to Truggs in the Grayven universe? Did he try to rob tech from someone out of his league and get blasted? Or never show up because of timeline nonsense, or what?

 

Lex has him imprisoned for vivisection in hopes of reverse engineering his future bio-enhancements.

 

That did happen to him. However, Lex now has him working on his fleet. It was mentioned when Lex revealed the previous Starman's spaceship to the masses. Truggs and the Renegade also brought up Lex's paranoia for being the reason for why making an A.I. in his likeness for a fleet is a bad idea.

 

Yeah. Without a heroic mirror to fixate on, Renegade Truggs is actually a bit more stable. Paragon meanwhile got a taste of the nemesis bug and had to try and become Paul's archenemy.

 

He truly is a politicians worst nightmare.

Sometimes a politician doing the bare minimum is the best you can hope for.

 

Especially in comparison to all the ones that have historically done a lot more, but done it wrong (meaning, 'in a way that the observer did not approve of at the time, or has decided in hindsight was a mistake').

 

I feel legally obliged to leave this here.

Spoiler: Old School Villainy

 

And so their holiday begins. I'm sure Dox is happy to see OL actually gone for a bit. As long as he doesn't get any more bizarre reports coming across his desktop. I'm sure he has a whole virtual cabinet reserved solely for 'Illustres-related insanity'.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Company is what makes a house more than a place to hang your hat.

Good to hear the bad guys are getting figuratively cock-blocked.

I get the feeling it ends up that the only people you can count on are your fellow Darkstars...

And man, is that a long time when you stop to think about it...

Ah, so she was overworking herself a bit. Probably good timing for her to get out of the paranoid mindset for a while.

Wow, so he actually acknowledges it. Amazing how far he's come...

Heh. This might honestly be refreshing for him, then.

Boy, he is really committing to taking time off... I give it a couple of days before he's itching to check in on things.

A fact her girlfriend is no doubt appreciative of.

Oh, my...[/takei] Well, I suppose she's sone some of that in her time.

...Ah. Right. Lemme just pick my brain up out of the gutter.

I'm sure you wouldn't Jade is a hell of a looker, and in great shape. It's be like taking a Lambourghini for a drive.

Interesting that Batman would allow him to operate in Gotham. Guess he managed to show his stuff.

...And how many of them are just civic-minded folks with some silly, minor super-powers, like changing the colour of any paint they're touching (Good bye graffiti!) or sniffing out exotic chemical odours (Great for tracking drugs.)

OL, no. This is Batman's business.

Yes, listen to your lady. Do not offend her, because she has knives.

Or Blue Lantern, since he lives here.

Would be kind of awkward.

...Remind me, did SHADE's little 'replace the president' plan get stopped here or in the Renegade timeline?

Only because you convinced him that trying to ban it would be political suicide.

Admittedly, that's another kind of political suicide... Never mind the legal trouble.

Very sensible...

Even Batman might stop and say, "You seem a little paranoid..." Still, I suppose it's a hell of a lot easier with a Power Ring.

...Suspiciously honest, perhaps? Still, if he can't get the votes...

So, he can win simply by being less bland. That says something about politics in the DC Universe...

See, now you're getting it, OL.

...Anything would be better than, say, Lex Luthor, after all.

So, a pleasant start to the holiday. Still, too early to tell is this'll be a running theme for the rest of the episode... I guess we'll see, as things unfold. Let's just hope something doesn't happen to interrupt this pleasant little time. And something will, I'm sure. Between 'comic book universe' and 'being the protagonist', OL's gonna get dragged into trouble sooner or later.

 

That happened in the Renegade timeline. SHADE may end up being a problem in the Paragon timeline later down the line.

 

And I'm sure he also has a cabinet marked "booze/drugs to deal with Illustres insanity".

Your brain will always be in the gutter.

This Batman isn't the hyper paranoid control freak.

It was foiled in the Renegade side, mainly because I think Renegade discovered it on Earth 50 so he checked on Earth 16.

He figured that out himself.

Paul just convinced him of certain ways he can use magic.

Remind me, what happened with the vice president?

You're still seeing Murphy.

Well at least you're learning.

Even if you're pace rivals that of Paul and a crippled snail.

 

There were several points in the story that it was mentioned that an American politician was disgraced due to sleeping with cheerleaders. I think they were referring to the VP.

 

That would sadly be in-character for at least one of the types of person that have become politicians, for about as long as there have been politicians. He probably denied it, too, but 'well, he would, wouldn't he?'

 

If you remember, they originally weren't going to bother with Horne. Then the Renegade was a positive influence on him.

I wouldn't want to be Senator Knight, is what I'm saying.

Horne's opponent in his first election. The Republican party's previous president actually made an effort to get his VP's name associated with popular programs during his second term, and the man was perfectly capable and generally well liked. As a result, Democrat who wanted the nomination at some point in the future decided to skip that election and try later. Horne was the party candidate because it didn't matter if he lost.

And then the video came out, the VP's reputation tanks, Horne actually put in an uncharacteristically charismatic debate performance and the Democratic party couldn't really swap him out at that late stage.

 

Hey, yeah, I think this should be 'Batman or Blue Lantern' seeing as that's Alan's new color.

 

The problem has never been on Paul’s side. He is perfectly happy with a relationship that only exists for a day or two every other month when two busy people both happen to be free at the same time.
Jade however is not. She wants something more significant than what they have. Quite possibly more significant than the semi-eldritch quasi-abomination Paul has become can give her.

 

I don't think he lives there

but I think you're both right about this. I'll change it.