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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. AR760

    AR760 Versed in the lewd.

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    I would argue otherwise. The following isn't meant to be harsh or mean or anything, but there are a number of traits which directly point to OL being rather psychologically unhealthy.

    He's obsessive, single-minded, and deeply unwilling to consider compromise or alternative solutions. More than once characters have had to warn Paul off from doing something deeply stupid because his first thought is to remove the problem, by force if necessary.

    His unswerving obsession with the concept of the Uplift developed to the extent it seems to have taken over most of his life. He constantly bounces around from one project to the next, has tremendous control freak tendencies and/or extreme difficulty accepting handing tasks off to others to the extent vacations make him uncomfortable, reoccurring discomfort with the idea of disorder, and so on and so on.

    His thought patterns are closer to some type of abnormality rather than something one would consider well balanced or completely healthy. It's frantic and carries a vibe of background anxiety and discomfort whenever the idea of disorder is brought up.

    And from we've seen, the dude is almost pathologically unable to not be "on" and do simple things like have a vacation without work from what I remember.

    Which don't get me wrong, I think makes sense given the sheer fact that Orange is one of the least stable colors, and he only has "enlightenment" in one sense in one single area of the human emotional experience.

    If you get beyond the awwww, cute domestic life bits, even Red Lantern is a deeply unhealthy individual who considers murder such a casual thing that one can argue he has some degree of anti-social traits.
     
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  2. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    More confused I'd say.
     
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  3. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Versed in the lewd.

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    That should say 'thought'.

    I bet no one was expecting either of these two to consider joining the Justice League. I wonder how heated the debate on whether or not to admit them will be?

    You're thinking of the wrong version of Paul. Raul is in the Teen Titans universe. The one who ended up in the JLU universe is Peter Wynne.
     
  4. Chaoswind

    Chaoswind Lord of nonsense

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    If only we would skip the boring amazon legal battle subplot to follow the Teens Titans universe league getting these two murder hobos to apply for membership and the likely catastrophe that is going to be trigger to have the league not outright reject them.


    In the teen titans universe the Titans made their league equivalent first and then the adults decided to do the same, so the minefield of interactions and problems that could be about to happen are absolutely great.

    If I remember well Raúl already dealt with the Trigon shit didn't he?
     
  5. Ngamer11

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    That is correct. It's how he became enlightened.
     
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  6. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    They wouldn't pass.

    Batman would vote no cause they are mass killers.


    Same for Superman.

    Same for any of the GLs.

    Flash, most of them, tends to be big on redemption but would vote no as is not like they have really changed.

    Wonder Woman may vote yes cause warrior culture.

    To sum up, most of the Seven would vote no save perhaps Aquaman and Wonder Woman so no way in Hell they are getting in the League not unless this somehow became the Injustice Universe instead of Teen Titans.

    Even on a trial basis they are mass murderers.

    So yeah, may need to Jump Universes to Join the League.
     
  7. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    They'll probably shorten it to 'Alec' most of the time.
    No, he'll grow up knowing them as superheroes and have no idea why everyone's terrified of them whenever they leave Earth.
    The Lex Luthor: Man of Steel version of Toyman was a paedophile.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
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  8. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    "So what I'm hearing is, you're fine with us continuing to operate on our own recognisance."
     
  9. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    Dude they didn't let Lobo join.

    Well I think Kid Lobo was a member of Comic Teen Titans as some point but Teen Titans is insane.

    Also of the main League only Batman won't kill for sure (unless is Darkseid). Wonder Woman, Superman and some of the Flashes will kill if needed.

    Also a rage ring and Super Tamarean powers would have a hard time dealing with Superman, much less the main League members together.

    What they are doing is like if the Joker walked to the League and asked to join. Heck at this point they basically have killed more people that the local Joker!
     
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  10. Lord Ernest

    Lord Ernest At the End...

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    Reading about Red Lantern is really fun. The guy has literally murdered his way to happiness. Most badass anti-hero known to Earth and beyond, and the guy lives in a nice manor, with his wife and son.

    That kid is gonna grow to be the most chill, mild-mannered but super dangerous individual with those two as parents, I can already imagine.
     
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    I feel like they should have at least two more...

    For science's sake...
     
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  12. Chaoswind

    Chaoswind Lord of nonsense

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    The league in the teens titans verse isn't the same as the standard one we usually get.

    For one they came after the teen titans went global and after Trigon turned most people to stone and killed millions. The league becomes the league because the adults got owned and got shown up by the kids... Well in this case both Raúl and Black Fire were there killing Trigon and his demons, so that will probably increase their chances of getting in and we don't exactly know what is the league membership like or their recruitment standards, I doubt they need an unanimous result, a majority will be enough.
     
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    Makes sense. The extreme emotions are the destabilizing ones. Once you are enlightened in them they stop being so. It reflects mastery over the emotion rather than being overpowered by it.
     
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    A TTG comic had a picture so I presume the Teen Titans League lineup is basically the same.

    Seems a bit influenced by the JL cartoon- Bats, Supes, WW, MM, Stewart, Hawkwoman, Flash, Aquaman, Black Canary, Captain Atom, Atom, Zatanna, Supergirl, and Mary Marvel.

    So between Aquaman with his hook hand and Hawkwoman with her Nth metal spiked mace, and I'm not sure how concerned they are about fatalities. It's not like hard metal sharp points are known for stun settings.

    I do suspect they'd want them to dial it back to a dull roar though, so I imagine it would depend on how much Red and his wife are willing to not act like they are in a live action Mortal Kombat game.

    Worse comes to worse they can form their own team.
     
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  15. Vaermina

    Vaermina Experienced.

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    All evidence points to Enlightenment not actually stopping the destabilization.

    Case in point, everything listed about LePaul by AR760.
     
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  16. BrotherofaStudio

    BrotherofaStudio Getting sticky.

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    Been a while since we saw this Paul, I'm very glad we get to see his married life with Blackfire and that we learn their son's name, but what would Alikand'r's name be in english? As for their decision to join the Justice League, poor Blue Beetle really is regretting giving this interview. Any new alternate Pauls on the way by any chance?
     
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  17. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Alec.
    No plans for any.
     
  18. BrotherofaStudio

    BrotherofaStudio Getting sticky.

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    Thank you.
    Would you be open to some suggestions?
     
  19. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Chuu, I never read comments.
     
  20. BrotherofaStudio

    BrotherofaStudio Getting sticky.

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    And yet you read this one...
     
  21. Darko

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    The League may not be okay with their methods but it's possible that they'd let them join because that way they can keep a closer eye on them and potentially have them change their methods to be less violent.

    Lobo is Lobo, so he's just a whole bag of issues.
     
  22. Windona

    Windona Beetle Queen of Crackshipping

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    I'm assuming it's Ted Kord Blue Beetle, making him in the room with two people who could rip his head off pretty easily.

    "So what would you bring to the Justice League?"

    "The skulls of your enemies to add to our collection, and the ability for everyone's children to grow up as safe and sound as our own son."

    Ted looks over at the Red Lantern. "Is that-?"

    "We have a great deal of experience fighting high level threats, like Trigon. We have shown that we can be team players, and given that we live on Earth we would rather do our part to make sure everything isn't upended by some asshole with powers to match their delusions."

    "I... will put those comments in. Thank you for your time, but they will have to go for review."

    "Of course. While we wait, we can easily get started on taking down League enemies to show our prowess."

    "That- that won't be necessary."

    And if we are giving suggestions, I do feel the Miraculous Ladybug universe and Paul would be hilarious.
     
  23. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I know next to nothing about the setting. I've probably seen more porn of it than actual animation.
     
  24. BrotherofaStudio

    BrotherofaStudio Getting sticky.

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    Any chances for an alternate Paul in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Magic The Gathering? Also I know you said that you wouldn't do a Paul in Star Wars because you refuse to use the new Disney Canon and you can't remember much of the Legends Timeline, but are there any other reasons you wouldn't do it?
     
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  25. Windona

    Windona Beetle Queen of Crackshipping

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    Fair enough. The show is very popcorn fair, and has more potential than quality.
     
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  26. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    Was it good porn?
     
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  27. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I don't know the characters well enough to say.
    No, because there wouldn't be any reason for in to be in New York, and if he wasn't in New York how would anyone know he was in that setting?
    I did have an idea for a story set on Terisiare after the Apocalypse War. But it isn't an SI story.
    The Star Wars setting is uplift-proof and there's no one there who could make a Central Power Battery.
     
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  28. Chaoswind

    Chaoswind Lord of nonsense

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    Raúl is in the original show, not the Go crap.

    In the original the Teen Titans went global first with Bruce Wayne and other philanthropists giving monetary support. The older heroes did exist, but they made the League much after the Titans went global first and that changes the plot calculus by a significant bit.

    Raúl and Black Fire being there to handle Trigon when almost everyone else got turned to stone or got killed also helps them immensely.

    I am not saying the League isn't going to have reservations, I am saying they are also unlikely to get rejected because in this post Trigon recruitment pitch, Raúl and Black Fire being Titans affiliates/adjacent makes them the senior party in this interview.
     
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    jonasquinn I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I would actually argue that Paul is one of the people most willing to accept compromise, he’s just very aware of what he is and is not willing to accept and perfectly aware of how far he is willing to go in pursuit of what he wants
    I mean it is literally his life’s work and that can also be said for pretty much every superhero
    This gets brought up a lot when people critique Paul buts it’s just objectively untrue, he’s constantly handing over authority and control of his projects to other people

    He created an Atlantean think tank and left Sephtian in charge of it, he started a technological revolution and left Ted in charge of that and he specifically broke someone out of prison because he felt that they’d be a better leader of the organisation he’d just started than he was
     
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  30. The Unaligned Player

    The Unaligned Player Agony that desires to meet Extinction

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    Aside from this, I don’t really see much of a problem.
     
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