With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I hope OL takes this as a teachable moment, and from now on makes sure some version of the healing ray (reversible switch or not, inbuilt into his armor or not) becomes part of his 'real space' load out.

Also, remember the original Robo Cop scene, where Murphy's gun was holstered inside his leg, but still accessible?
Having a side arm inside his armor sounds a bit self defeating. Especially since I remember OL mentioning his usual armor doesn't have normal seams for putting on and taking off; it was made to be taken on and off by shunting it through subspace.

EDIT to add:

Both OL and Renegade are forks of the same person.
Any reason OL hasn't thought of stealthed drones as a to have more options without making the armor to large to go through doors?

Have a stockpile of nonmagical drones stored in subspace, a couple of which automatically get taken out when transitioning to a new scene.

Also, omitting the healing ray just seems dumb, on account of if being cut off from subspace becomes an issue, things have likely gone south, and the ability to heal would be a priority.

 

Well this is really personal for JSI Alan.

 

Every system added to the armour requires either the armour to be made bigger or something else to be taken out. The armour is there to tank a very limited number of attacks that bypass rings but not force fields or armour, and protect him while he retreats. It isn't supposed to be a general purpose combat rig, and isn't. The SI can't use Apokoliptian technology due to a) not having access to it and b) not being a New God.

 

Paul needs to do what Ironman does and build multiple suite for specific occasions while making his standby suit as modular as possible, so he equipped to do handle most situations he usually relies on his ring to handle, or just wear more rings in order to increase his battery capacity so the cost of subspace doesn't hamper his overall effectiveness. Maybe after dealing with this situation, not to mention see how things are on Earth-666 going to tell that version of Supergirl before taking her home, Paul should look into OMAC tech which Lex has been researching and combining it with Martian bio-tech so he has an armor that is similar to the Extremis or Endo-Sym armor.

Or finally capture an Reach scarab for his own use or for the Controllers and other researchers to study and build their own version, plus while Grayven has a sparky Sinestro AI imagine Paul dealing with his own version of Khaji Da.

 

Eh, I dunno. Putting all of his researchers' projects on hold just so he can mantain various metamagical armors and suits doesn't seem like it's that worth it when he's a Lantern. His ring has been toggled off what, four times in the whole story? It's a very minor nuisance at best and not worth the resource expenditure of becoming Ironman.

 

Is there any space compression technology?
Or portals?
Or non-ring subspace?

 

Of course. But they're either easier to disrupt, require even more bulky equipment or have other risks associated with them.

 

The ideal would be to see if Green Arrow can come up with a purple healing ray arrow, or hand over one to one of his allies whenever he's on a mission. Why make one person the pack mule for all the useful gear when you have other party members?

Actually, now I'm wondering about purple healing ray access for other heroes in general. I know Beauticia was working on making it standard in hospitals, but given the JL sometimes gets called in for natural disasters and certainly gets called into situations with a lot of injured people, I can imagine a couple of them might want to pack a healing ray so some civilians can make it to the hospital.

Oh man, Obsidian. What would be worse, Todd being strapped to a machine or Todd's schizophrenia being taken advantage of?

 

Flash may be the best for this since he can evacuate people and then heal them.

 

Strictly speaking if he did a broad scan of Earth he might realize that Ted's got one in cold storage, assuming no anti-scry wards are in place. Other than that though getting access to a Scarab is unlikely given they were all but purpose-built to fight Lanterns and have every countermeasure under the sun The Reach could pack into them to prevent capture.

You accidentally included your response in the quote Darko.

 

And he can reach people the quickest, making him ideal for emergency healing. Depends on how portable a healing ray is though, since if it's too cumbersome he might only bring it if he's strictly on healing/evac duty.

True. Though I also don't think Paul is really trying that hard to find Earth's scarab, since it probably wouldn't take that much digging for someone to go 'Oh yeah Dan Garret used a scarab to fight crime, never joined the JSA though' and 'Oh the last person with Dan was Ted' and then have Ted go "Oh yeah, Dan gave me his scarab, but since it's alien tech I didn't feel like fusing it to my spine and instead I'm studying it to make inventions like flying solar powered vehicles" The Bug is superior to the Batmobile and deserves more recognition

I'm currently of the theory that Paul feels Earth can handle a scarab well enough right now, and he mentioned looking for Jaime Reyes in a one-off so.

 

Has everyone stopped to consider that maybe LePaul is just... Bad at designing Power Armor?

 

In the context of WTR everyone thinks that Scarab is magic instead of sci-fi nanotech. I do agree Paul isn't really looking all that hard for it though, which is fair enough I suppose. It tends to go reasonably well in most continuities, so as long Blue Beatle the third isn't running around yet he's probably got the time to head-off any issues that could crop up.

While he did look for Jaime he accidentally got his name wrong, so he never actually found him.

 

Eh, in YJ canon Ted knew it was alien tech and that's given as the reason he never used the scarab himself. And I misremembered him getting the name wrong, did he do a search for Jamie Reyes or something?

 

Yeah. It was relatively early on and I think it was a ring search for people with a specific name based on census data or whatever, which is why he never found him.

 

Zoat is apparently went in a different direction, since WTR Ted would have probably happily showed Paul well before now.

Whether you consider this being that storyline butterflied away by Paul's presence on the watsonian level or Zoat making a decision on the Doylist level, well that's up to you.

And yes, apparently Zoat wasn't much of a BB fan because Paul did look for Jamie Reyes.

 

Certainly explains why local-Scott was so gunho about this mission in general and rushed to see it done.

His boy has been a test subject for years.

 

Eh, for now I can headcanon that since Ted apparently didn't tell the League in canon, Ted wasn't really telling anyone because it was something Dan entrusted to him and he didn't want to take the risk of having the keepsake of his dead mentor getting used in some high octane adventure.

Lol very much so, every BB fan knows it's Jaime.

 

So ask Ray Palmer for some help in (temporarily?) miniaturizing stuff: Earth Bullshit(tm) To The Rescue Again!

 

I imagine the League would corner Atom and go. "Please. Don't make Paul even harder to handle."

Also I do like Paul having limitations.

 

While I do agree, the entire point of having SI superhero characters is their foreknowledge and ability to make use of it. This extends to the technology available to them. There is no reason he can't try do do this.

 

I wonder if Paul’s suit’s scanners (or Paul’s ring database once it drains as much power data as it can from dominator computers) will have useful data on replicating Obsidian’s powers. Vril Dox II and the controllers would certainly like to know about reproducible anti-glow technology ASAP.

 

Porque no los dos?

 

Eh.

They could have been facing the chimerical combination of both twins..

Spoiler

 

Well, yes, but this is a bit silly. Paul is a Lantern SI in a low-powered setting, for goodness sake. He started this story at about 98% power and has no reason to waste resources chasing other less productive power options just so he can become a munchkin's wet dream instead of applying his already cosmic-level powers to better the universe.

 

It probably also helped that he was related to the leader of the JSI.

"or they've"

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Well, someone should have thought to make their heavy armour more flexible. So, then. I wonder if Commander Scott actually knows his relationship to Obsidian in this universe, and whether others know about it, or if he's just known as some random crazy metahuman?

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Yeah, I bet a prison full of metahuman criminals was liek a big old box of candy to the Dominators. And Yes, Eclipso is technically that powerful. He was the Spectre's predecessor as the Wrath of God, after all.

So the sooner you get his ass out of here and get him recharged, the better. We can only hope the light is being suppressed, not drained.

And there's the strength enhancement I was talking about. Not as useful as you'd think, given the limited mobility, but if he gets his hands on someone, well...

Sadly, without actively pinging, he's not going to see much. And if he is actively pinging, then anyone else using sonar will spot him loud and clear.

Integrated Kinetic Belt, if I remember right?

Risky. He's be an easy target, and the ride might not be very pleasant for the Commander.

Yeah, better to deal with the cause of the issue rather than a symptom. And I doubt Jordan's lantern will be of much use, since this Ring is the Starheart, not a former Green Lantern castoff.

...Which side of the door are the guards going to be coming from, then? Inside the big cheeses' quarters, or outside?

Ah, that'll be the guards now. Decent response time.

...Though probably limited to his silhouette, rather than a good old pavise.

If wishes were fishes, no-one would go hungry... You fight with the tools you have, not the tools you could have.

And I doubt their bosses would appreciate them setting off fragmentation charges in or near their quarters, no matter the reason...

Ooh, clever. potentially stun an attacker while they're blind and generate a sonar map at the same time.

Which they may assume is some manner of combat automata, and call for heavier weaponry. Best to deal with them quickly, then.

For a start, it would make a lot of noise, I expect. Also, you're not exactly well-protected underneath, are you, besides light armour and a kinetic belt?

Okay, the squishy ones are out of the way for now. Time to wreck some shit?

Heh, a human torpedo.

Ha, nice, make them think they hurt you. Get them confident and moving up.

The joy of fighting blind: second-guessing what you're hearing.

Honestly, if you could replace it with something closer to Astartes power armour... Instead of the ersatz Securitron look you have now.

Good, good. Best to be quiet about it...

Honestly, I could see it going either way. Depends on how brave the high-caste feel at the moment.

Let's hope you're not being funnelled into a kill-box by the layout.

Let me guess: point defences or land mine equivalent?

This is going to be a very slow process, stumbling around in the dark. Gods only know how many traps are laid in that complex. And sooner or later, those guards are going to start moving after you. And there's still the chance of nastier stuff ahead. We can at least hope that the centre of the bubble of darkness has an unaffected area. Otherwise, shutting it down might prove difficult.

 

I know it's not that, but it's hilarious to imagine he just stepped into something nasty some pet left behind X)