With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[AngelicKnight.]

So a thought occurred to me when reading this update, is there a Misa in the paragon timeline?

Like there been a few timeline specific characters before, some from another universe like sunset shimmer and golden age supergirl, some from the setting who the other timeline never met like I think Misa is meant to be (like she's from death note but this version of her is a DC native?).

I'm just curious, is the paragon path Misa ok?

 

[Smartkittykhan]

So a thought occurred to me when reading this update, is there a Misa in the paragon timeline?

Like there been a few timeline specific characters before, some from another universe like sunset shimmer and golden age supergirl, some from the setting who the other timeline never met like I think Misa is meant to be (like she's from death note but this version of her is a DC native?).

I'm just curious, is the paragon path Misa ok?

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Given that she and Sunset are explicitly crossover characters I'm inclined to believe their presence is exclusive to the renegade timeline.

Also, I thought Misa's parents were murdered which is why she came to Grayven in the first place. Am I misremembering something?

 

[Mr Zoat]

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Thank you, corrected.

So the reason the g-gnomes were successful was that they could rapidly place an illusion/mind control/whatever on the target before they could suicide?

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The thing about mind reading is that you have to know it's happening to actively resist it. If g-gnomes aren't rushed, they can be very subtle.

Since there's a decent chance we'll be seeing a lot of Persuader/Elise this episode (assuming the planetary exploration has something funny happen and doesn't get offscreened), I feel the need to ask what her backstory is, because I scarcely remember at all. I think she got given future-Persuader's axe after Grayven killed him, but that's all.

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Elise? Persuader 1 came back in time to kill Superman and failed. He decided that the best way to succeed on his second attempt was to recruit his own ancestors, give them copies of his axe, train them up and then rush Superman. Elise thought that getting an axe was pretty neat, and liked meeting members of her distance family, but when she realised that the target was Superman she opened a portal to Challenger Mountain and told the Renegade everything. He beat the snuffing out of the rest, investigated her circumstances and offered her a pupillage.

I don't recall anything about her father. Is he the sort of person who would take an interest in planetary surveying? Seems like there is a significant risk of 'blank stare' response.

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He'd probably be somewhat interested? Humans going into space is usually considered pretty interesting. He's trying to improve his relationship with a daughter who he hadn't seen (prior to the Renegade's intervention) for about a decade, so he'd definitely show an interest.

Given that she and Sunset are explicitly crossover characters I'm inclined to believe their presence is exclusive to the renegade timeline.

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They're present because of what happened to Ambush Bug's bugs. Since they didn't randomly discharge in the main timeline, no Sunset and no Misa.

Also, I thought Misa's parents were murdered which is why she came to Grayven in the first place. Am I misremembering something?

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No, that's correct.

 

[boo600]

And clearly the only proper response to that is going on a killing spree.
Our reminder that this particular individual was a nutcase before Grayven handed her the power of a god. And a death scythe. And his explicit approval to go around killing people she thought it would be a good idea to kill.
Honestly it is a wonder they haven't had problems before now.

I don't recall anything about her father. Is he the sort of person who would take an interest in planetary surveying? Seems like there is a significant risk of 'blank stare' response.

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I mean. Reach spies, there to mindwipe and slowly genocide worlds. She's saving planets, by killing inarguably evil monsters. I'm not sure that 'killing spree' is a fair statement to make, particularly since she A) has trustworthy telepaths look them over, and B) is one of Grayven's retainers - Grayven may not be the Illustres of the OLC, but he is still effectively at war with the Reach, simply because they're going to nom Earth like the political version of a tide of alien locusts.

This is not a spree murdering, this is the disposal of threats to all life on a number of worlds, which would normally be preceded by decades of slavery that grind down the mind of the slave race before they're essentially slaughtered for religious reasons in an eternal jihad against all other life that makes the Fremen from Dune look tame.

 

[Ardy]

You don't have to read it. I won't be offended. I've already said that I'm not going back to Worm, though I admit it being all anyone seems to want to talk about at the moment is making me reconsider.

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You said you'd never bring up Worm again, and you brought up Worm again.

 

[Duke Long]

slaughtered for religious reasons in an eternal jihad against all other life that makes the Fremen from Dune look tame.

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Come to think of it, is their extermination of aliens caused by their ideology requiring antipathy towards other sophont species, or is it just a consequence of it requiring expansionism and probably valuing the reachian species? In this story they tend to seem pretty chill, but we haven't seen enough of their culture to be sure. And the dominators sometimes seem pretty chill too, but their ideology certainly does require antipathy.