With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Mr Zoat]

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Thank you, corrected.

Huh. Jack Chance's gun was mass-produced by the Reach, and everyone was worried that the OLC would lose its quality advantage. But in the most recent updates on the war, we always get 'and there's nothing the Reach does that actually matters against OLC in a fight.' And now Paul is worried that the crystals are a silver bullet.

I know the Reach built that super-fleet of ships with gravity manipulation/teleportation, as well as jammed-on anti-construct guns. Paul won against it, but…

I dunno. Did they figure out a counter for the guns? Is every OL just, in a fight against a scarab, relying on their ring AI to auto-transition them if they use that gun, like when Paul fights a Kryptonian like that last from the JSI? And do the crystals have a much wider radius of effect or something?


Also, it's hilarious that Jordan still isn't wearing armor. After the anti life, after the Sheeda, after saying he'd have to get armor because the reach was planning on infesting GLC space with those guns. He really is gods dumbest, most stubborn soldier, huh?

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Are you talking about crumbler ammunition? If I gave it to the Reach then I've forgotten, but the technique that the SI and Guy developed for ablative constructs is now used by most of the Orange Lantern Corps and it's a decent counter.

 

[Ngamer11]

Are you talking about crumbler ammunition? If I gave it to the Reach then I've forgotten, but the technique that the SI and Guy developed for ablative constructs is now used by most of the Orange Lantern Corps and it's a decent counter.

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I think it was something else, like the weapon of the Black Hand. Might be something else.

 

[NightmareWarden]

Spoiler: Last third of planning this update

"They're got gravity shields. I could probably damage them eventually-."

"Could you-? Work out the frequency of their shields if you shot them long enough?"

"The frequency?"

"Yeah."

"Of… Gravity shields?"

"Yeah. What, wrong word?"

"Didn't you.. study physics for-?"

"I'm a pilot. I studied aeronautics. You wanna talk about drag coefficients, I'm your guy. You wanna talk about black hole guns, I'll go get Atom."

"It's more likely that I'll lock them on blocking my singularity beam, which would mean that they couldn't deflect the missile. That still leaves point defences, assumes that the ships can't cover each other with their gravity shields, and that we can actually hit them."

"Got a way around that?"

"Don't use missiles. Use ballistic projectiles with warheads. With the three of us firing, we can cover enough of their potential location volume to be confident of hitting-."

"Lantern Gaart, you know how to make a railgun construct?"

"No, sir."

"That doesn't matter."

"If it's just the two of us-."

"Grand Admiral Thrawn taught me that if they can't track the projectiles, they have to assume that each observed firing is a real firing."

He frowns at the name, but he gets it. "So he just pretends to fire a bunch of times, and they'll have to evade."

"Or fire along the projectile's calculated approach vector. Depends how good they are."

"Can you shoot these things and fire the black hole gun at the same time?"

"Why would I need to? They're going to be ballistic."

"So fire them, wait until they're about to arrive and then shoot the ships?"

"Yep."

"Okay, it's a plan." He claps his hands together. "Let's get to work."

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Spoiler: 5th World

Does everyone recall the think tank of skilled individuals who put together the cure-tech patches which blocked Klarion's mind control? Well, The Light's mind control? The think tank had a telepathic connection going which vastly improved their coordination.

Obviously this chapter's plan demonstrates that a participant does not need to understand all of the physics or engineering involved in order to participate in the execution step. Consider how difficult this pickle would be for heroes other than this Paul though! He's a practically renaissance man of obstacle-nullifying because his ring's AI and his vast bag of tools. How many non-lantern characters have a real path to resolving a threat like this? Very few! But some of the necessary know-how might help bridge the gap.

The chance to summon up a connection to linked experts in physics, magic, or whatever... Seems like it could act as a potential to return to one of Paragon!Paul's favorite strategies at the start of With This Ring:

Phone a Friend.
It is a way to massively support weaker actors that may wind up assisting in the eventual Brother Eye/Batman assault, yes? Heck, Kid Flash is going to have to train up alchemist-biochemists to make his mark on the world. With that team linked up to aid a hero with limited experience, said hero should be able to spend more time supporting civilIans or fighting criminals. Meanwhile Arnold Munro's genetics team, with the right crisis or contract, could be linked to assist in a very different category of threat.

What I'm getting at, is that Paragon's earth has the potential to reach a greater state than Apokalips or New Genesis by using their mundane humans in a novel way, rather than repeating Apokalips' lowly caste system like Batman aims to. This probably has unique benefits that an Earth conquered by Renegade-Paul (Grayven) will miss out on.

Anyway. Consent is important, Bruceman. You're gonna make Robin into something that will end with you despising yourself, man. You're going to lose because you've given up lateral thinking to reach your goal(s) faster.

 

[Ardy]

Thank you, corrected.

Are you talking about crumbler ammunition? If I gave it to the Reach then I've forgotten, but the technique that the SI and Guy developed for ablative constructs is now used by most of the Orange Lantern Corps and it's a decent counter.

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It was the anti construct guns that weakened constructs, brought by the free lancers from earth and sold to the reach irl years ago, months ago at least in the war in story. No crumblers for the reach yet tho