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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    Well, I meant 'your family' as in the particular combination of your mother, father and you and your siblings, living where you did. If one of your grandparents dies before fathering one of the first two, the kids would never have been born...
    It's like Dr Manhattan's revelation in Watchmen: The extraordinary combination of events that lead to two particular people coming together to produce a particular offspring are incredibly rare, even if such things happen every moment of every day.
     
  2. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    My father and I both have unusually flat ears. Does that count?
    Ipswich, Suffolk, not whatever colonial-come-lately town copied the name.
     
  3. Sun Dog

    Sun Dog Getting out there.

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    From the pages of Superman, and the Global Guardians, I present to you Seraph, an Israeli school-teacher gifted by the Abrahamic God with the Might of Samson (equivalent to Superman) Mantle of Elijah (invulnerability) Ring of Solomon (teleportation, wisdom) and Staff of Moses (parts water, makes localized earthquakes, turns into a 300 ft. serpent, and summons the plagues of Egypt). IIRC as God's Champion he could from time to time request miracles.

    His weakness being if he sinned or broke a Nazirite Vow (no wine, no haircuts, no contact with corpses or graves) his powers would weaken or vanish depending on the severity of his offense, to be restored each Yom Kippur.

    Admittedly, he hasn't appeared in the story, and this would be an awkward time to introduce him. Nobody is calling Israel's only superhero in to have a calm and rational discussion about Nazis, with a woman from the Nazi Earth. And I suspect the guy might have complicated feelings regarding the angel invasion thing as well.

    Oh well, the Global Guardians haven't really been a thing here outside Dr. Mist, and with him joining the League I doubt they will be. By the same token, he might just be on the Doc's radar.

    That's a fair point. An argument could be made that the man who slew Hitler- at the cost of his own life, no less- deserves a statue, or at least a parade.

    Then again, that sounds unreasonably complicated.
     
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  4. deccan2008

    deccan2008 Getting out there.

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    Actually why is OL even the one handling this? Seems like Superman should be the one most invested.
     
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  5. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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  6. Simonbob

    Simonbob Really? You don't say.

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    The Producers is great fun.

    Silly, but fun.
     
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  7. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    Preety sure that or something like it would have been made unsarcastically. If you just replace Hitler with a good actor without the proclivities of this one, it would seem very patriotic. It only works because the Nazis tend to seem ridiculous when you think about them. The entire point of the musical in this case is that everyone in the play except Hitler is treating it super seriously, so it comes off like he’s the clown and everyone is an idiot for following him. An actual Nazi German would probably think the musical was fine, but the actor for Hitler is horrible.
     
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  8. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    Surprised they insisted on toughing it out after the Soviets fell and Churchill died. He barely kept Britain in the fight as it was. Maybe if they killed him sooner. If German torpedoes weren't fucking awful in the beginning of the war, they might have been able to get him when he was on the Hood. Take him out there and the British would have thrown in the towel after Dunkirk.

    Also . . . If a city was going to be renamed Adolfstadt or Hitlerstadt, it'd probably have been the city of Linz.

    The town where Adolf Hitler spent his youth ("Jugendstadt des Führers"), and his planned retirement home after the war. Hitler wanted to turn Linz into a "German Budapest" – a city which, in Hitler's mind, then surpassed German cities of the Danube in beauty. Linz was to be "the new metropolis of the Danube," eclipsing Vienna, a city he hated.

    Linz was to expand three or four times from its then current size, with Reichswerke Hermann Göring providing jobs for the laborers relocating from Vienna. The bank of the Danube was to be built up with magnificent private homes, and a new "Hitler Centre" (Hitlerzentrum) was to be furbished with new community buildings.
     
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  9. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Versed in the lewd.

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    Because she appeared in the same spot he did
     
  10. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    What happened to the Caligula Club after the angel invasion?
    Seeing as the atrocities and demonic shitstorms they were commiting would i be correct in assuming that the angels paid them a visit?
    Will you be showing the Caligula Club in the future if they are still around?
     
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  11. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    The building and more than a few inhabitants were incincerated. However, the angels were only searching for people involved in demonic magic, not in other kinds of immorality.
    Not in DC, I'm afraid. That was the first Unknown Soldier.
    Working his day job.
     
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  12. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    You ever planning on doing a crossover with Astro City?

    Wonder how OL would try to convince Infidel to use his intellect to help society?
     
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  13. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    No.
    The SI tries not to throw around the 'infidel' lable. He likes that Middle East 16 is more stable than Middle East Prime and doesn't want to give anyone ideas.
     
  14. freakytiki34

    freakytiki34 Making the rounds.

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    We know at least one of them is peculiar, I hear he's been publishing a thousand words a day for over four years.

    I love this arc so much. Hopefully we'll see Earth-10 Paul somewhere during the Crisis.
     
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  15. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Earth 10 Paul either doesn't exist or if he does then ha may be dead.

    Also i never knew that nazi meant ignorant peasant.
    I really want to see her reaction to the naizs of the modern era, who more than fulfill the description of being ignorant peasantsx3

    Though joking aside i really wonder to how she would react to modern nazis?

    Too bad you aren't doing a crossover with Astro City, but are any of your future storylines going to be about a diffrent comic universe, aside from Marvel i mean?
     
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  16. Bolo

    Bolo Know what you're doing yet?

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    With her dna he should be able to find her family.
     
  17. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Remember the Nazis who took part in the attack on the Watchtower? The Russian ones? Complete bewilderment.
     
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  18. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Did Krona -14 not perform his experiment, or at least took precautions when doing it?
    I ask because if this is the case then it would explain why the Guardians of that universe went insane with power, the fact that Krona didn't damage the universe probably never had them develop precautions against them going crazy and nearly destroying the universe.

    Is Koriand'r -14 a brutal and merciless dictator while her sister Komand'r is a compassionate freedom fighter, or are they both worse than the versions in your story seeing as you gave Komand'r a dose of alternate origin story and adaptational heroism, her being taken a prisoner because of the actions of her brother, not because she betrayed her people like in the comics, and lacking the acidic hatred and murderous intent toward her sister that she had in the comics?

    Did Oggar -14 beat Shazam -14 and then just took the same roll as him, that being giving powers to ordinary people, but only for evil and destructive purposes?
    Is Oggar the one that gave Teth Adom -14 his powers?

    Is Mordru -14 a benevolent mage ruler that came to earth to study its magic only to make an enemy of the Crime Lodge, instead of being the sociopath like in the main storyline?
    Are Klarion -14 and Mordu -14 Lords of Order, instead of Lords of Chaos?
    Who was the Lord of Order active in universe -14 during this story, assuming there was one?

    Can you give us some backstory on Vandal Savage -14 and Ras al Ghul -14 as well as the other -14 counterparts of the members of the Light like Brain, Queen Bee, Satanus, assuming you thought of something for them?
     
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  19. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    'Pass' and 'no'.
     
  20. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    Yeah. There's a lot of weird fucking shit with modern Nazism that would absolutely make the original Nazis question if someone was playing a prank on them.

    Groups the Nazis targeted have embraced Nazism, with there being Slavic and even Jewish Nazis. There was even an incident in, like, the 80s where some Jewish Nazis exploited the right of return to cause trouble in Israel. I think there were some Brazilian Nazis who openly accepted Afro-Brazilian recruits.

    They're usually the ones who deny the Holocaust the hardest, insisting that it's all a spooky conspiracy invented to keep the amazingness that is National Socialism from changing the world for the better.

    Though there are some groups out there that claim the Nazis were wrong about which race was the master race, and naturally claim it's their own race. Like with the Mongolian Nazis.

    And then there's all the shit in between.
     
  21. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Yeah i'm pretty sure when someone accepts the thought that the nazis may have been right about something, common sense, good sense or really any kind of sense just dies a slow and painful death.
     
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  22. John At Dawn

    John At Dawn Seeker of Answers

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    I'm surprised Paul has held back from pointing out that the name "National Socialist party" is a half-misnomer.
     
  23. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    No, there's a difference between 'socialism in one country' and 'international revolution'.
     
  24. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Bucky / Winter Solider / The Other Captain America got him in Marvel.
    [​IMG]
     
  25. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Hey have new gods from New Genesis, aside from Scott Free, Barda and the Forever People, ever visited earth in the past?
    I ask because i was reading a fanfic that mentioned a post flashpoint demigod child of Zeus called Milan that was friends with Orion and i was wondering if any other new gods from New Genesis have come to earth in the past?

    How are the Forever People doing in the paragon timeline, are they still recovering?

    Will we see them in the future paragon storyline?

    Is renegade Highfather aware of what the renegade is doing on earth and Vega?
     
  26. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    They've been to lots of places.
    They will be for a very long time. However, they are now functional.
    I have no specific plans, but maybe.
    Not in any detail.
     
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  27. Impatient_Quill

    Impatient_Quill Versed in the lewd.

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    You know, we are assuming that Paul-10 is dead... which lets be fair is probably true, he would nazi the world he landed on coming.

    But he would have a Power Ring... or perhaps a Reach Beetle. Either way, something of sufficient mojo that getting off Earth and to a more stable galactic polity would not be difficult, even if he did need to break in some war time vault to steal a Power Battery first. Heck, there is no reason to assume he isn't kicking it on Mars-10 with M'gann-10.
     
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  28. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    If you're just looking for somewhere stable to be, he wouldn't have to go elsewhere. Earth 10 is actually pretty stable. The Nazis also have cities on the Moon and on Mars, so he wouldn't escape them by going to Mars.

    He'd basically be fine as long as he fits their criteria for being of an acceptable race, and given some of the galactic polities the Paragon has been willing to tolerate and even cooperate with . . . If a Paul 10 had existed, I could see him chilling out on Earth 10. Possibly being an ally of the New Reichsmen when it comes to more traditional heroics.

    All the nasty shit has already happened. At this point it's mostly just regular people living regular lives. There's just somewhat less racial diversity because of the, you know, genocides.

    Trying to think of who'd still be around other than Germanic peoples. Iranians. Arabs. Chinese. Japanese.
     
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    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Impatient_Quill Versed in the lewd.

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    Not quite sure he would feel less inclined to stick his nose into human issues.
     
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