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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    No.
     
  2. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    At first, I wondered if he arrived without an Orange ring, and had some other means of getting the money to pay Constantine with, but then Zoat commented on wanting to get Alan's lantern from Waller. At a guess, he either didn't want to go through the difficulty involved in obtaining the lantern without permission, or made a deal of some sort before meeting Constantine.
     
  3. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Should that be Director or Agent Waller instead?
     
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  4. Doccer

    Doccer Know what you're doing yet?

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    What earth is this one?
     
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  5. Darko

    Darko Experienced.

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    Wonder how powerful he is in comparison to an average angel and Angelica?
    On one hand he was never a demon to begin with and may find it easier to use the angel magic, but Angelica is a higlhy intelligent and skilled magic user that has had thousands of years to perfect her craft and probably has a load of theoretical knowledge on theurgy and its uses, plus she may be getting tutored by Zauirel.
    Also she had a team of highly skilled atlanteans, a skilled surgeon and biomancer as well as perhaps the worlds oldest non divine magic practiteoner helping her while Paul just had Constantine and probably someone he managed to dig up.

    Zoat i know this is a longshot, but have you ever planned of who you would like this one to start dating?
    If he manages to save Knockout then he may go the route of Eros!Paul and get two beautiful and deadly women falling for him.
     
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  6. WereDragon

    WereDragon Bookwyrm

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    Fair is fair I suppose, mainlining the power of a reputedly benevolent god can’t be a worse way of getting a soul than mainlining the Embodiment of Avarice.

    John Constantine vs an evil box of scientific evil.
    Yeah I think most would agree that John was the better option. Not all but most.
     
  7. Aeess

    Aeess I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I wouldn't really call this version of Constantine weak, he actually seemed pretty powerful when he was fighting Doctor Destiny and Faust.
     
  8. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    It seems to be the Earth of Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, which is part of the DC Animated Movie Universe.

    If it has a number, I'm not aware of it.
     
  9. FeepingCreature

    FeepingCreature Know what you're doing yet?

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    Oops, you are correct. Thank you for the correction.

    I always mix those two up. :)
     
  10. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch Know what you're doing yet?

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    A pity that thought hasn't occurred to the likes of Vandal Savage or Eobard Thawne.

    BOOMERANG: Yeah, but I still wanna avoid Hell.

    WINGS!PAUL: Then take some time to repent. Stop doing bad sh@#. Do some good with your life, it's not that difficult! It really is THAT easy!

    BOOMERANG: Eeeeh, I don't know, it just seems like too much work, you know?

    WINGS!PAUL: REALLY? I mean, it's your soul, your choice, but you DO know that nigh eternal torment may very well await you on the other side, right? A LITTLE hard work is an incredibly, INCREDIBLY small price to pay to avoid all that.

    BOOMERANG: Maybe Hell won't be that bad!

    WINGS!PAUL: ....I have it on VERY good authority that whatever you can imagine, it's going to be much, MUCH worse.
     
  11. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I don't know. I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that she had a doctorate, but I've got no idea where.
    No, none at all.
    It came up in the comics. Knockout is pansexual and assumes that relationships are open by default. Scandal isn't and doesn't.
     
  12. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    Oh damn. It's that universe. With a version of Killer Frost I really, really like.

    Also has what may very well be the best version of Doctor Fate ever.



    Nabu really needs to work the stick out of his ass and give that guy another chance. Of all the dangerous shit one can probably find in the Tower of Fate, that card really isn't even that big of a deal.

    Of course, in that movie I'm pretty sure the card does actually send people to Heaven. And they did a tie-in comic that takes place after the movie, where it turns out Amanda Waller is such a piece of shit The Specter has decided to come after her.
     
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  13. Siiracai The Supernal

    Siiracai The Supernal Shadows and Balance

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    I love this.
     
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  14. Darko

    Darko Experienced.

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    There was this other fic on SV called Life Ore Death where Scandal had a threeway with Wally and Knockout after Wally showed her pictures of him posing over Savages heart patterned underwear after he beat and panced him when he tried to stop him from taking the heart to Princess Perdita.
    Scandal may work for her father but she hates him and if Paul heals Knockout and stops her father she may be open to the idea of thanking him in a more intimate manner if Knockout suggest it even if she herself wouldn't initiate it herself.
    Like Holly and Karon.

    Wow i wonder what angel Paul is going to think about this version of Nabu?
    I doubt that he is going to hate him as much as paragon hated his Nabu, but will probably be extremely dissapointed in his choice of a wearer.
    That or he may want whatever mystical weed Nabu was smoking when he made that choice.
    Celestial ganja, nothing beats it.
    Plus if he is immune to most earth based intoxicants he is going to need as much celestial ones as he can get. He may be extremely patient and serene, but still it is safe to have some calming herbs on standby if you're dealing with the shit the DC universe throws at you.
    Such shit includes being in debt to John Constantine.
    I know he technically paid Constantine, but do you really think that is going to stop that walking miscarriage of a human being from calling in this supposed debt?

    Speaking of funny Nabu hosts there is this one YJ fic on SB called Medic where the League and mc make one of Constantines friends a host for Nabu on the logic that him being friends with Constantine will result in him suffering later in life plus the guy did some horrible shit in life so wanted to repent by becoming a champion of order and defending the world from malignant magical menaces, so they thought him willingly giving himself up as a host, and protecting the world, would be better than potentially being taken by some demon and tortured for the crime of being friends with Constantine.
    The funny thing about this is that it is a 100% correct seeing as in the comics a demon got a hold of the souls of several of Johns friends and was torturing them.

    On a side note i really recommend a YJ fic by theirishdreamer on SB called The Dark Shard:Enemy of The Light.
    It is a great fic though the grammar may turn some people off i really recommend it.
    There are also several other fics of his like:
    Ridire Coracairdhearg: The Shard of War and Blood (Star Wars/DnD)
    The Traveling Merchant and Wandering Mage(multi cross SI and a side story of the The Dark Shard) etc.
     
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  15. Ace Dreamer

    Ace Dreamer Questioning The Nature of our Realities

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    Yeah, well I remember the three as 'consequentialism', 'authoritarianism' (trust that (external) authority to tell you what's right/wrong), and 'the other one'. I first heard about 'virtue ethics' from Michael Sandel's broadcasts, and I still have trouble remembering the term. :)

    Trouble with a lot of these systems is that they throw the baby out with the bath water - you get the impression they're sort of looking for ethical/philosophical sound bites... I will admit speculating that Grayven might be a 'new existentialist', balancing rationalism against romanticism, maybe after the style of Colin Wilson (because that avoids the depressing Satre style), but, maybe that's pushing things too far. :)
     
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  16. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Negotiation with Waller...now that's risky. Has there ever been any version of her that would actually keep her word?
     
  17. Whenever Possible

    Whenever Possible Versed in the lewd.

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    It's a very nice touch that Angel!Paul refers to and thinks of everyone else by their names and not their costumed identities. When it first said "Dr. Quinzel," I thought he was taking part in a prison counseling group session.

    But the important quest is... What the heck does Waller have that Pangel wants and is willing to get involved with the suicide squad to get?
     
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  18. DrThoth

    DrThoth Not too sore, are you?

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    I mean a lot of Pauls refer to people by names, but it does fit his benevolent personality here particularly well.

    As Mr Zoat has answered, Alan Scott's Lantern, though I'm not clear on why Waller would have it instead of the family of one of Scott's peers. I would like to see how an angel uses the power of avarice though- I can see Paragon's value system being fairly compatible.
     
  19. Darko

    Darko Experienced.

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    Waller does run a intelligence organization with a lot of agents, she probably had one of them take the lantern, or maybe if the All Star Squadron exists in that universe the government could have taken it away after his death because he was their employee.
     
  20. Gantradies

    Gantradies Not too sore, are you?

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    ......
    on reflection, i should probably clarify that the previous "advice" was a combination of a movie reference (the pig farm- Snatch-an EXCELLENT British gangster comedy-recommenced it for anyone who hasn't seen it- or hasn't seen it in years,alongside Hot Fuzz), and drawing from vague memories of a loon who killed people and stuffed their bodies into drums of caustic lye irl years back (came up in an article on cracked.com).for the second. theres... probably a hotline they call if someone suddenly starts ordering Lye by the 40 gallon drum.

    i....
    ....FUCK. im already on a watchlist somewhere, aren't i?
    godammit. NOT a trait i wanted to share with my charicter!
    .....least it isnt the unstable power core...
     
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  21. thebishop8

    thebishop8 Umm, ackchyually...

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    If this Paul's power ring is completely dead, can he even convert Alan Scott's Lantern to orange?
     
  22. NeoDarklight

    NeoDarklight The Final Observer

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    A better question is, would he even bother trying? It’s a functional-ish lantern with a functional-ish ring. At this point, he may as well just use it as is.
     
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  23. thebishop8

    thebishop8 Umm, ackchyually...

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    Just because it's out of charge doesn't change the fact that you can't power an orange power ring with a green lantern.
     
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  24. Citizen

    Citizen Experienced.

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    But you'll still have a green lantern, possibly a ring to go with it, and options going forward.
     
  25. The Chosen One

    The Chosen One Getting out there.

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    It's not stated what color his ring is this time around.
     
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  26. thebishop8

    thebishop8 Umm, ackchyually...

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    I noticed that. But given that most Paul's start with orange rings, and the last 3 alternates in this very episode had orange rings, it seems like a safe assumption.

    Or maybe he did start with a green ring, and because he didn't want to risk the remaining charge on his ability to fulfil a bargain with Waller, he sought out the enhancement he now has just in case.
     
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  27. Threadmarks: Equestrian Girls (part 20)
    Mr Zoat

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    Local morning
    Probably still the 1st of April back home


    I take a moment to look at my forehooves. They still look much the same, particularly given that I didn't take my armour off last night. I'm.. pretty sure that what I dreamt actually happened -for a given value of 'actually happened' but… I don't exactly know how to tell.

    "Mhr?"

    I glance down to where the self-renamed Party Popper is lying pressed up against my barrel. I don't think that she's fully awake-

    She yawns, her eyes opening and then closing again.

    -but she appears to be heading in that direction. What to say? I used her to illustrate a point, and-. Huh. I was expecting to feel a little guilt, but this is quite a bit more than I was expecting. Maybe it's because she's small and furry and adorable.

    I mean… It might be because I don't have an Anti-Life fragment any longer, but I'm not going to gamble on that until Sunset and Scott have checked.

    "Uhh."

    Party Popper blearily looks around, notices my barrel and then pokes it with her left forehoof to check that it's really there.

    "Huh. Mom always told me something like this would happen if I left the rock farm."

    "She did?"

    She turns her head towards mine. "Weeeeeeeell… Not this exact thing. But I think this is the sort of thing she meant."

    "Party Popper, I'm sorry for dragging you into this. I-."

    "Are you?" She blinks up at me. "Are you really?"

    I nod.

    "No one's more surprised than me. Normally the most I feel in situations like this is a mild obligation to the injured party. This is actually…" I sigh. "Bringing you here illustrated the point a little better, but honestly? From what Luna said, just teleporting Twilight and your primogenitor to the Mirror Pool would have worked just as well. I just wanted to break their resistance as fast as I could and didn't really care if I hurt you to do it. And I should have done. So: not just an apology. I do actually want you to organise Sunset Shimmer's party, if you're still willing. And obviously I'm in your debt in addition to that."

    "Huh." She looks thoughtful for a moment, then brightens up. "Hey, you passed!"

    "Good? Passed what?"

    "Princess Luna told me that if you didn't apologise I had to buck you in the flank." She cranes her neck to bring her face a little closer to mine. "And unlike someponies, I actually know where the flank is."

    "It's another word for 'haunches', isn't it?"

    She shakes her head definitively, smiling broadly. "Nope!"

    I snort with amusement. "Hey, you want to know what's funny?"

    "Aaaaaaalways."

    "Luna's my best friend in all of Equestria."

    She leans back, squinting at me. "Really? Whaw."

    "I know, right. So she visited your dream too?"

    "Yep. So I know all the other mes didn't really die and they're all going to be let out soon and I can be Party Popper for real or even Pinkie Pie except that could get confusing when we're all together and I can even go back to Ponyville if I want to."

    "Do you want to?"

    "I…" She sags a little, looking away. "Dunno. I do kinda wanna see everypony again, but Twilight did try and sorta-kill me. And everypony else went along with it. And I've made a whole bunch of new friends in Manehattan. Wait a sec-ond." She turns her face back towards me, peering at me suspiciously. "Didn't your horn used to be orange?"

    I briefly go cross-eyed trying to see it.

    "Ah-."

    Party Popper sticks her right hoof into her mane and pulls out a hoof mirror. She holds it up towards me.

    "See?"

    I look at my own reflection. I look… Pretty much the same. Which is good; if I'd turned into a white pony I'd be worried that Harmony was racist. But… I'm looking a little less sinister all round, and my horn is now a grey spiral face spear rather than a smooth orange face claw.

    "Ah, could you please cover your ears for a moment?"

    Party Popper stuffs her mirror back into her mane, then grabs a pillow and holds it over her head.

    "Life… Equals… Pain."



    It's gone.

    It's… Gone.

    I step off the bed, prompting Party Popper to slump into the depression I made in the bed. She drops the pillow and looks at me expectantly.

    "I.. admit I've been a churl
    Since I woke up over a world."

    I take another look at my reflection in the mirror over the dresser.

    "The day before was sour
    And it left me feeling dour
    I lost everything
    Except a glowing orange ring
    And though I fought in the good fight
    I never did quite get it right."

    I turn back to Party Popper, who's standing on the floor and looking strangely excited.

    "And my allies, they were fine
    Though not exactly of like mind
    Played them false? Yes, I admit it
    And I never seemed to quit it.
    Tossed a coin, picked a side,
    Because I'd rather fight the tide
    And my rage meant that my friends
    Were mostly just means to my ends."

    Life… Doesn't equal pain. Life can be good, full of opportunities.

    "And… Now… I'm… Free!"

    I shove open the door and march down the corridor.

    "I'm filled with glee!
    There is no Anti-Life in me!
    And everyone around can see
    That I'm a jubilant pony!
    And now I'm free!
    I'm filled with glee!
    There is no Anti-Life in me!
    And everyone around can see
    That I'm a jubilant pony!"

    I open my wings and fly down the main staircase, Party Popper hot on my heels. I toss a bag of bits at the front desk attendant and head out of the front doors.

    "Took a stand, won a prize
    Cut my foes right down to size
    One can rebuild from rubble
    The rest weren't worth the trouble
    Got a visit from my Dad
    He took note of all I had
    And he gave me as a prize
    Something I truly do despise."

    I march in the direction of the palace while Party Popper leaps onto my back and starts dancing.

    "But now I'm free!
    I'm filled with glee!
    There is no Anti-Life in me!
    And everyone around can see
    That I'm a jubilant pony!
    But now I'm free!
    I'm filled with glee!
    There is no Anti-Life in me!
    And everyone around can see
    That I'm a jubilant pony!"

    I should probably question how I'm suddenly able to move this quickly on hooves, but… Ah. Who cares?

    "Got helped out by my bro
    He said I should take things slow
    So I went on a few tours
    And killed many evildoers
    Did some building, got a plan
    'cause I'm not a one note man
    Then I went back home to see
    What I would do with me."

    Prance through the palace gates, Luna should be… That way?

    "So now I'm free!
    I'm filled with glee!
    There is no Anti-Life in me!
    And everyone around can see
    I'm…"

    Twilight Sparkle and I stare at each other. She looks… Rough. Worn out and generally miserable.

    "A slightly contrite pony."

    I stop, and Party Popper jumps down off my back.

    "Twilight Sparkle."

    She scowls. "What now?"

    "I'm sorry. I let my fervour to destroy my Anti-Life fragment blind me to other approaches that I could take, and in doing so I caused you and your friends considerable emotional distress. I didn't take into account the.. now obvious fact that the elements of harmony aren't the jewellery that you and your friends wear, but fundamental parts of Equestria's magic that are available to anyone. I forgot that Nightmare Moon destroyed the previous manifestation of the Elements and that you reformed them from your own virtues, an option that was just as available to me as it was to you. I shouldn't have come after you in the way that I did that and I'm sorry."

    "Oh. Well. Good." She sighs, then steps around me and looks at Party Popper. "And I'm sorry. I made assumptions about how the Mirror Pool worked based on other magic artefacts I'd studied, and I was.. so wrong and I didn't check that what I thought was true really was. I spent all night getting the other Pinkie Pies out and I said sorry to all of them. I've never wanted anypony to be as afraid of me as you were."

    Party Popper thinks for a moment.

    "I'd… Be lying if I said I was okay with any of what happened… But I know that you're telling the truth and… I guess you've really done all you can do to make up for it." She gives Twilight a quick nuzzle, then jumps back on my back. "Now go get some sleep. You look awful."

    Twilight nods, takes one last look at me, then trots away. I watch her go for a moment, then continue down the corridor towards the gardens.

    "So now I'm free.
    Fairly happy.
    There is no Anti-Life in me.
    And everyone around can see
    I'm a.. somewhat contrite pony."

    I step out onto the manicured lawns and nod a greeting to Luna before heading her way.

    "Followed Sunset to her home
    Where the little ponies roam
    Tried to Harmonise my strife
    And destroy the Anti-Life
    Though they were sadly unwilling
    Speaking of their Pinkie-killing
    Earned me a royal visit
    Whose results were-"

    I lower my head as if to sniff Luna's haunches, and am rewarded with a tail whip to the snout.

    "-quite exquisite."

    I walk around to face her as she rolls her eyes.

    "Grayven. You seem somewhat less umbral this morn."

    "I feel less umbral. Did a song and everything."

    "We heard."

    "How did it feel to use the Elements again?"

    She thinks for a moment. "Satisfying. We feel… Cleansed by their presence in a way which being struck by their full fury does not match. Now, exactly how far does your contrition extend?"

    "I'll repay every debt incurred and a little more besides. But I seem to remember making a promise to you. How-?"

    She yawns. It lasts several seconds.

    "We apologise. Our body entered your dream physically, and We have had little time for rest since."

    I nod. "I'll-."

    "Because of the great upsets you caused with the Bearers."

    I nod, pausing for a moment. "I'll… Work something out, there. And I'll not keep you, but… I can remove your tiredness, if you'd rather not leave me unsupervised in your capital."

    "Having seen what you planned for it, that may be wise. How-?"

    Strengthen True Friend.

    She shudders, coming to full alertness in an instant, her wings opening to their full span.

    "Goodness."

    "So why don't we head inside, and you can tell me what I can do for you, and for Equestria?"

    She nods, smiling. "I would like that."

    "'cause now we're free! / "'cause now you're free!
    We're filled with glee!" / We're filled with glee!"

    We march back towards the palace proper alongside each other, Party Popper still on my back.

    "There is no Anti-Life in me!
    And everyone around can see
    That I'm a jubilant pony!"

    "'cause now we're free! / "'cause now you're free!
    We're filled with glee!" / We're filled with glee!"

    Luna beams.

    "There is no Anti-Life in thee!
    And everyone around can see
    That I'm a jubilant pony!"
     
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    AidanMorgan Essentially Overworked

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    I can't stop smiling and it's so sweet I think you gave me diabetes.
     
  29. Uyurgezn

    Uyurgezn Your first time is always over so quickly, isn't it?

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    If Waller ever get her hands on a power ring even half broken one there would be a black OPs lantern around. It seems like here, Waller only got the Lantern and she probably have no idea to how to to use a faulty lantern without a ring. Heck maybe she doesn't even know it have the same tech as other green lanterns. She may be seing it as a chep imitation.
     
  30. Idkusername

    Idkusername I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I just can’t remember where the song’s from.
     
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