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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    It would be difficult to find a Tinker who can make a lantern.

    Exotic energy then.

    And yeah read Taylor Varga, nice slice of life elements there.
    Still prefer Fragments of Chaldea though for my slice of life stories
     
  2. Shotiegun11

    Shotiegun11 Know what you're doing yet?

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    Like...'parahuman energy manipulator' like Purity or Legend

    OR

    A 'parahuman energy manipulator' machine of some kind?

    OR

    A 'parahuman energy manipulator' like a shard?



    Purity of Earth, you belong to Agent Orange. You are the Orange Central Power Battery.
     
  3. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I gave up on Taylor Varga due to the lack of challenge the main character faced.
    No. They gained great power from their symbiotes, but glow-based power came from later.
    Sure. Shards have an interface in Universe Bet with a connection to the planet-sized mass of alien machinery which does the heavy lifting. By definition, that link must be two-way.
    A parahuman whose ability was to manipulate various forms of energy to a small degree.
     
  4. Ace Dreamer

    Ace Dreamer Questioning The Nature of our Realities

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    The answer to that is easy Leet. Now, if you want a Tinker who can make two Lanterns...

    'Not breaking the world', and 'Not scaring everyone' are arguably challenges... But, physical challenges, no. Hence 'slice of life'.
     
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  5. Nervaqus987

    Nervaqus987 Well worn.

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    Leet's not omnipotent, he can't literally make anything once.
     
  6. Shotiegun11

    Shotiegun11 Know what you're doing yet?

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    Leet wouldn't need to make an actual Power Battery, just a machine to punch through dimensions/universes and into the elemental Plane of Avarice. I'm pretty sure since Bet has contact with another earth through a portal then Leet with his 'build anything that could be built within a few decades rule' could reach another dimension.

    I think that's how a marvel Paul charged his Ring for a while? Norn stone to punch through to the Elemental Plane of Avarice.

    Then that universes Hela slapped him, (kissed him?), and made him a Power Battery out of ...Nidhoggs skull? I think? A dragons skull at least.
     
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  7. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    I don't remember reading that, but for dragon skulls its appropriate to make an orange power battery out of, Fafnir, the dwarf cursed by the ring and gold of Andvari whose greed turned him into a dragon would be my number one choice with a bullet.

    There's also a fantasy comedy novel "Expecting Someone Taller" when a guy gets the cursed ring which makes him the secret ruler of the world and can summon an infinite amount of gold. And has Rhinemaidens showing up to seduce him and Dwarfs begging for the ring, and Wotan now has an interest in him...
     
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  8. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    *tries very hard not to laugh at the irony*
     
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  9. Xmaster3000

    Xmaster3000 Know what you're doing yet?

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    The full line is something along the lines of "He cannot be killed by any weapon forged by man". The Rocket Launcher was manufactured and put together by machines. It's like how Duncan could kill Macbeth because he was a c-section. Magic loopholes are a doozy.
     
  10. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Or the Nazgul in Lord of the Rings when they said no man could kill them.
     
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  11. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    That wasn't a loophole. That was Glorfindel foreseeing the Witch King's death and noting that it wasn't a male who'd kill him, so warning the Dunedain prince not to go and try, and then die. He didn't have any male specific immunity. It's just that it wasn't going to be whatshisname who'd kill him.
     
  12. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    That's assuming that there was a magic loophole.

    The pieces of the Judge left after being hit by the rocket launcher might not have been dead. There was dialogue in the episode lampshading it with Buffy mentioning "they can't be sure" he's dead.

    Also assuming that there was any magic to loophole, "no weapon forged by man" might simply have been a boast based on available weapon technology of the 14th century. Which is actually the implication I got from the episode.
     
  13. Sceptic

    Sceptic Critical Irrationalist

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    a) "When"‽, and b) bollocks.

    Edit: added quotation marks, since at least two people missed my point without them.
     
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  14. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Comics happening caused by events of the last episode of the series.

    Events that of course might not happen now...
     
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  15. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    The comics.


    Twilight is older then Buffy verse's Earth, so there's nothing to prevent on that front.
     
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  16. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Incorrect.

    The events of the series finale were what drew Twilight's attention to Buffy.

    The events of the finale get butterflied away from the vast changes killing off the Mayor and Glory early would have caused, and Twilight is left a prophecy waiting to be fulfilled.

    No Glory, no second resurrection, no opening for the First Evil, which leads to Buffy and Willow not doing anything to kickstart Twilight.
     
  17. Sceptic

    Sceptic Critical Irrationalist

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    You appear to be missing my point there. I'm disagreeing with your use of "when" instead of "if". As pointed out by Stsstreets word, most of the following seasons have been butterflied by such things as Buffy now not dying on schedule. Unless you think she's going to take a high dive onto pavement just to maintain the future plot?
     
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  18. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Incorrect.

    The actual event that drew Twilight's attention was the Slayer's power being split, an event that already occurred.


    All of which is completely meaningless due to the things that cause the actual universal destruction being long ago set in motion.
     
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  19. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    Twilight is the "child" of Buffy and Angel. It both existed and was aware of them before the series even began, because of extra-dimensional fuckery, and was manipulating events to ensure its own birth as a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy.

    I suppose the question is . . . Would it be able to attempt to course correct or would it poof away?

    It's a stupid fucking plotline either way. Like most of what goes on in the comics.
     
  20. Sceptic

    Sceptic Critical Irrationalist

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    Oh no, the bad things will happen on (or ahead of) schedule because reasons, but nobody can possibly stop them because canon has been blatantly interfered with and it's completely impossible for them to be stopped except exactly the way they were in canon! Oh noes!
     
  21. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    That was my impression. Otherwise someone would have just bashed his head in with a rock.
     
  22. Siskulous

    Siskulous Know what you're doing yet?

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    You remember Max's reaction to her, right? Now multiply that level of anger by about 10 and significantly diminish the capacity for slowing down and thinking about what he's doing. Yeah, Raul's not going to pull punches with Overgirl.

    Heh. That would make it the 3rd longest ongoing web fiction I read if I were to pick it up. Big word counts aren't scary. They just mean that I'm not going to be having withdraws any time soon.

    Then again, I'm having trouble keeping up with Zoat lately, and I still haven't gotten to this month's Deathworlders update. Dangit. Stupid real world with it's stupid everybody suddenly needing more technology to work from home because of stupid microscopic protein bags.
     
  23. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! But thank you for playing! Bob, tell the studio audience what the consolation prize is!

    "Giles: For thousands of years, the universe has been watching, waiting to find one Slayer, just one, who measures up to its test. Century after century, they all meet the same fate. [...] Until Buffy Summers came along and did the one thing that no Slayer, no Slayer in history, had ever done before.

    Willow: She shared the power.

    If returning from the dead was what kickstarted Twilight, Willow would have said so.

    Not to mention that Buffy becoming the celestial madonna for a new universe via the impressive impressive act of lying there dead while Xander performed CPR is ridiculous.
     
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  24. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    Including babies, just in case the audience thought he 'wasn't that bad,' or something.
     
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  25. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Well I feel the fact that he planned on eating the entire graduation class and the families there for their special day really needs to be pointed out.
     
  26. Sceptic

    Sceptic Critical Irrationalist

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    He's sounding like a more sympathetic character all the time. Whatever did happen to Jamie, anyway?
     
  27. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Yes yes, I know you can quote the wikia quite well by now, but you missed the part from the actual comic where that was Giles guessing.
     
  28. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    On the idea of Red getting pissed at Overgirl . . . Would it matter? Going by his showing against Glory, I get the distinct impression that Red Paul would get his shit kicked in by Overgirl if he actually went after her.
     
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  29. Sceptic

    Sceptic Critical Irrationalist

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    Unlike Glory, I very much doubt that Overgirl is immune to red acid vomit, amongst other things.
     
  30. Threadmarks: Repetition (part 15)
    Mr Zoat

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    13th August 1997
    08:52 GMT +2


    "Ah, hallo?"

    The woman who-. Doesn't.. actually look a great deal like either myself or my mother looks around, her eyes widening slightly as she sees me floating in the air above her. I.. think she looks like Aunt Katarin, but between her age and my kryptonian genetic modifications-. I should have realised that becoming part-Karl would change the way I look.

    The two people she was talking to are staring as well, but I'm sure that the way I'm staring at.. me makes it obvious who I'm-.

    Why are they smoking? It's a degenerate habit! Yes, I knew that without-. Without the social changes the National Socialist German Workers' Party made, some practices which-. I saw that on Earth 16. But seeing myself behave like that is… Worse. I understand that someone who… Had not grown up to regard preservation of the strength and purity of the race as a noble pursuit might.. become involved with other races. But why would any person wilfully poison themself like that?

    "… Yes? Can I help you?"

    I drop down to.. just above pavement level. The other two people are smoking as well. Are they being shunned by their peers? I can't see any armband.

    "You are Angelika Köhler?"

    "That.. was my maiden name. I'm Angelika Becker now." She smiles. "I have been for a while."

    Married, with children. Yes.

    "And your parents were Peter and Gabriele, from Danzig?"

    "I don't think we're supposed to call it that." For some reason she is staring at the area around me. "How.. are you doing that?"

    "Alien genetics which allow me to generate a biological force field."

    She chuckles. "Aliens?"

    I purse my lips and blow, the sudden wind extinguishing her cigarette. And freezing most of it. Her face falls in surprise, prompting her to raise the cigarette so that she can take a closer look. She then squeezes it between her thumb and forefinger, and watches as frost formed from the water vapour in the air around it begins to appear.

    "My God."

    "I think that the proper answer is: 'no, but people do make that mistake sometimes'." I land a short distance in front of her. "I could also demonstrate my strength, but… I would have to break something."

    "What-?" She lowers her hand. "Who are you?"

    "I'm you. A.. different version of you. From a parallel universe."

    "Oh. I.. don't really know what to say." She looks me over. "I don't remember ever looking that good. Is that the… Alien genetics as well?"

    "Yes, and an active lifestyle. Mostly the genetics."

    "So… What-? Why are you here?"

    Perhaps… Best not to mention the actual reason.

    "I wanted to find out what my life would have been like if things.. had gone a little differently. I age only very slowly, but I've never married. I also can't have children."

    The.. older version of me chuckles nervously as her co-smokers continue to stare.

    "Do you want to borrow mine for a little while?"

    "I.. do not think that I will have… Time. But you are happy? With the life you have lived? Working-" I look up at the Kirow Ardelt GmbH sign. "-here?"

    "I…" She shakes her head. "Suppose? I haven't had another life to compare it to. Is that why you wanted to talk to me?"

    "Yes." No. "And… In this country?"

    Another chuckle. "As opposed to where? Poland?"

    "The Greater German Empire."

    One of the observers hisses air in through his teeth, while my doppelgänger looks.. slightly nervous. Not.. afraid, but I can hear as her heart rate increases and see as the increasing flow of blood to her muscles causes a change in her body temperature.

    "You're a..?"

    "A National Socialist, yes. I am known as Overgirl. Which is… I understand that women are encouraged to have a greater role in the workforce on… Earths where the National Socialists were defeated. I have.. struggled to reconcile what.. the Party says is the proper role for women with how I actually live."

    "And-?"

    And now there's fear. A pure-blooded German who was.. afraid of a movement devoted to acting in the interests of her and her people.

    "My adoptive father… He loathes it. The things he is expected to believe, expected to do. What he did for the Empire when he was too young to question it. He has tried to raise his concerns in public on a few occasions, but no one is listening. I thought-. I always thought that… Yes, that period of our history was violent, but it paved the way to something better. But I look around…"

    I do just that, using what little temporal energy I retained from Time Trapper to see through the objects which would usually stop my vision. Not… Peaceful; this is after all a city during the morning rush hour. But at peace. Perhaps… Lacking the grandeur that my Leipzig possesses, but a fine city in its own right.

    "It was all lies. It was all lies. We could have lost the Second Great War and everything would have been fine anyway. We could have just not.. fought it at all."

    "Yes, that-" She nods vigorously. "-would have been much better."

    It is as if some great… Knot has unravelled inside me. Not a knot of rope, but a knot that might be tied in a balloon. When you untie it, everything just.. flies out and.. nothing is left inside.

    It's all…

    It was all…

    I barely feel it as my other self cautiously pulls me into a maternal hug, the fact that time travel has made her younger than me seeming irrelevant.

    It must be so much worse for Karl. He actually-. And he stayed strong for-. For those parts of what he believed that were not… Lies. And for me. And…

    This is so much more than.. a few little.. lies, to.. ease the minds of the public and not distract them from-.

    "How did-." I pull out of her grip a little. "How did Germany..? Stop being a nation of National Socialists?"

    "We lost the war. There were trials for the people most directly involved in what the National Socialists did. And ever since then we have been reminded of everything they did so that we never forget it. I don't think that would work in a world where Germany won the war. I think your people would probably learn the wrong lessons."

    "Yes. I did. And I have more reason to question things than most."

    I… I wipe my eyes. I breathe in slowly, then breathe out.

    "I think-."

    "Angelika, what the heck are you playing at?!"

    I look around and-. Orange Paul has finished with the problems Red Paul was creating.

    "I… Needed to talk to her."

    He frowns at me and.. her.

    "After Time Trapper specifically told you not to?" He shakes his head. "Come on. We're leaving. Hopefully, Krona won't pick up anything."

    His ring blinks, his face falls, and he grabs me with a construct tether and we vanish.
     
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