With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

would be awesome if the kid becomes Paul's sidekick and joins the Team later when/if she gets a ring.
wonder what humans would think of a superhero that looks like a giant spider, lol

 

I kinda want to see how his teammates will react to meeting Kori. Hopefully it will be funny.

 

Hope they have a day at the beach and see her in a bikini.

In this fic Assimilation she comes out with the Team on beach day wearing her outfit from the 80s comics as a bikini.

Understandably this causes Robin to hit his puberty.

She also was talking to M'gan about how they should go out naked and not be ashamed of their bodies.

Jacob, the MC, later mentions the bikini thing to Wally, who promptly falls into despair for missing out.

 

All rings can do that, they're standardized things that can gain a charge from any lantern type so long as you can channel the correct type of emotion. (See New Guardians.)

Also Orange very specifically can't assimilate anything Hope related.

It was pretty much her last real appearance that had her faltering because she wasn't suited for the color.

 

Yes, because he put a lot of effort into guarding against it, then either went with it or didn't care.

I didn't say they learned the right lessons.

Just green, though there are drawbacks to all of the colours.

 

While before you were not recognising characteristis f how the Orange light functions, you are now misattributing its functions to an entirely different emotion on the spectrum.

People are adaptable. She is now more likely than not suited for an Orange ring, by dint of the fact she has trained to use one to the best of the ability, which requires one to think in terms of avarice.That is, the very fact that she is using an orange to the best of its capabilities by training to do so means that is the one she is best suited for.

No, this is, once again, patently false. The whole reason OL had to get Alan a new Lantern was because he simply couldn't 'channel the right emotion' and charge his Green ring with an Orange lantern. You may as well try and shove batteries into the fuel tank of your diesel car.

No, she faltered because she was participating in a genocide.

 

New Guardians is n52, which the author doesn't like all that much, and Zoat may decide to not add those characteristics to his version of Earth 16, even if he has added certain things from n52, like certain characters.

He may add some characteristics from the comics in his story, but they may be from different universes so he can get away with it because we didn't exactly learn anything about how the green light and power rings work in the YJ show and tie in comics.

Pretty sure blue rings can't turn orange rings blue.

Kori was trying to save as many people as she could while the world she was on was being killed and bombarded and most of the ones she was trying to save were dead. The fact that she was having a difficult time wielding her ring then isn't an indicator that she is a bad ring wielder since most people would find it difficult if they were in those circumstances.

She and her sister are also not the SI so they aren't able to wield their rings flawlessly like him and their training may not have been as intense as that of the other Lanterns so they may still have some minor difficulties.

 

I thought it was unnecessary to bring that up, but now that you have, OL floundered when healing children during the Roanoke incident, after he received Orange enlightenment. Does that make him unsuited for an Orange ring? No, that's simply a characteristic of the Orange light.

 

Also, IIRC, Tamaraneans are, unlike humans, capable of feeling multiple emotions simultaneously. That's why Teen Titans Starfire is able to fly and shoot fire simultaneously, when she needs to feel joy to do the former and righteous anger to do the latter. If she's better suited to wield other ring colors, that just means that she'd find it easier to wield multiple different rings simultaneously.

 

He still needs to want to do something to do it. He was feeling compassion when healing those kids and not avarice.
Enlightenment means he can use his ring without going crazy and may be able to do things even skilled, but not enlightened, Lanterns can't do. It doesn't mean he'd be able to use it if he wasn't feeling avaricious.

 

My point exactly. Kori wasn't able to maintain her avarice in that instance.

 

Introduces some interesting questions...

You could have an AI that could 'model' the social logic of a situation, know that a large proportion of humans have a strong emotional connection to children, because evolution selects for creatures that ensure there's more of them in future. And, in consequence, for the future continued operation/survival of the AI, which is necessary to allow carrying-out intended functions (The Fourth Law, if you like) there is utility in healing children. Because it would mean future support from humans.

But, that AI couldn't 'drive' a Ring, of any variety...

Exactly what'd need to be done in building an AI so the emotional spectrum is part of them is the second of those questions...

 

Oh, the New Guardians are around. I doubt that I'll be using them as a team, though.

No, though the 'needs to be connected to the ring' thing appears to have been wrong.

Not at a level of refinement any character in this story is likely to reach. Certainly, blue has no special in as far as conversion is concerned.

She was trying to save as many non-psions as she could. Not an unreasonable position for her to take, but she could have saved more people in total if she was including psions.

 

What are the major drawbacks per color? Red is great at breaking things, but not for doing much else. Orange feedback-cycles want into greed, turning you into a (greater) monster. Yellow...I dunno? Green requires intense, willpower driven focus to work, and I have no idea for Blue, Indigo or Violet. Well, unless Violet just has the tendency to turn you into a psycho stalker for whoever you 'love'.

...what? Humans are not only capable of feeling multiple emotions at once, we do it constantly.

 

Yellow may make them somewhat addicted to scaring people, not good for a police officer, blue requires you to maintain your hope and that can be difficult, indigo just straight up brainwashes you and violet can make you into a crazy stalker.

Tamaraneans can feel multiple emotions at once like humans, yes, but they probably do it in a more safe manner that isn't likely to lead to some kind of emotional break.

 

Simply include the light in their making, or expose them well enough. We've seen both in this very story.

Manhunters infused with green can wield green. Female modeled automata exposed to orange light feel orange emotion, and may even request to be permanently exposed to it without prompting.

As seen in the recent crisis, you can make a robot that wields any color of light.

For examples of non organic stuff outside this story that wields light, did you know there's literally a math equation green lantern?

 

Yellow has a relatively minor downside, encouraging the user toward sociopathy. I haven't fully worked out what I want the others to be.

True, but power rings work strongest when the user focuses on a single feeling. The Renegade experimented, and while he can use yellow and orange together the result is that both are weak.

 

Ah. I read that as either a training issue, or a facet of the SI's particular emotional makeup. Similar to how I know people can climb knotted ropes, I've seen them do it and had the process explained to me, but I've never been able to do it myself.

 

Humans are patently shit at multitasking, of any kind. Wielding to power rings at once is akin to dual wielding swords: it looks cool, but is only helpful in very specialised circumstances, and learning to use both together in a meaningful manner will take significantly longer than a single ring, and you will still be worse of than a dedicated ring user, aside from the extra charge. Achieving mastery over a single ring is easier, too. It's the jack of all trades master of none thing, except you're the jack of only two trades, at which point you just shouldn't bother.

 

Could Paragon now use both Orange and Violet together without weakening either?

 

He doesn't know. There wouldn't be all that much point even if he could.

 

Oh good. Shut that down quick.
His rep amongst the Amazons might never recover though.

 

Depends. Can he own it? Just tell the truth, and continue that while the misunderstanding was funny, he isn't genetically related. He will, however, take responsibility for the next generation he has irreparably changed by adopting the spider.

I place high odds on that either way on the grounds I consider it likely she becomes at least a constant named side character if not another addition to the team.

 

And I am noticing that OL promptly forgot to tell Koriand'r (and hopefully Komand'r at some point) to not bring it up again, given the whole Amalak hating Kryptonians thing.

 

No, he very definitely brought it up by way of saying openly that he didn't want the information of the database released freely. He just didn't call attention to that particular secret to maintain some small shred of infosec. At this point his listeners can assume SOMETHING in the database is hot info, but if they didn't know what before they aren't finding out without combing through and comparing it to find relevant history.

 

I'm catching up from Friday here, so outdated comment warning.

If I didn't know better I'd swear than Eris had something to do with the timing of that call. Actually, I DO know better and I STILL suspect some sort of interference on her part.

I'll second that by adding that the thread is much more pleasant with Vaermina blocked. I'd recommend anyone who finds Vaermina irritating do that rather than wasting time arguing with them. For a more detailed explanation why, look up Mark Twain's advice on arguments.

A toddler with an orange ring? Yeah, no way THAT could go bad. </sarcasm>

Um....what? No, sorry, humans are VERY capable of feeling multiple emotions at once. If you've never experienced multiple emotions at once then you've led a very unusual life. Avarice and hope in particular - since there's so much talk of a blue ring for Kori - go together quite well. "I want this and hope I get it" is a very common thing. Hell, that mix probably goes into every letter ever written to Santa Clause, so it doesn't even take a particularly mature mind.

 

Part of the reason White rings are so awesome is that they can be powered by all your emotions at once. No need to suppress. Actually I wonder if an experienced power ring user would actually be worse at using a white ring then a random person because they have gotten used to suppressing their other emotions when using their rings.

 

What the fuck? You’re leaving best!spider and secondbest!spider in Vega??

Zoat, I’m disappointed in you. Will we ever see them again? Will princess ever be reunited with her cruel and deadbeat father???

 

Princess deserves better than Paul.

 

Princess will appear in future episodes.

The SI isn't her father in either the biological or social sense. Her biological father or fathers were the Hive Fathers who used their genetics to create her mother, whom she in turn is a modified clone. And he isn't her father in the social sense because he's had no input into her upbringing.