With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Yes, they're not planning on dragging her off for a gang bang. They're just at the 'interested in getting to know you better' stage.

THANK YOU.

 

Incest is wincest.

You'll understand in time. They all do...

Though in all seriousness, I'm theoretically fine with incest and even underage relationships so long as the people involved are mature and responsible. But that's unlikely at best for the former and near impossible for the latter, and banning them outright is generally a better move, so in practicality, I don't.

However, this is a story, and I'm fine with such suspension of disbelief (hell, look at the site we're on), but that's not the kind of story Mr Zoat is writing, and I'm not talking about lewdness (after all, it's pretty hard to top the tantalising tarantula). People generally have much more down-to-earth emotional reactions in this story, so yeah, it would be unlikely.

 

The world is not ready for Kiyohime with an OL ring.

I mean, there are obvious collectors like Queen of Sheba and Gil that would be dangerous with an OL ring, but it feels like the most dangerous ones would be Berserkers who manage to be (somewhat) functional despite having an overriding obsession (e.g., Kiyohime, Nightingale, Spartacus, etc.).

 

Oh geez, is that what happened? I only saw the "personal reasons we don't want to talk about" message. I didn't know there was more information.

 

In the words of a shrieking skeleton who sits on a golden toilet.

"DELETE''

Aside from being able to wield a ring they would also have to be able to follow orders and not abuse their rings, as well as being able to stay stable.

Kiyohime and Spartacus wouldn't be able to stay stable, Nightingale may be able to though.

 

*Takes a look at the Teen Titans cartoon.

Eh, did they ever reform anyone besides Raven?

Terra might count but even so that's a single case.

 

Jinx turned on the bad guys.

It's still basically a children's cartoon universe so the universe becoming better by reforming bad guys would fit into that type of universe.

Plus if the universe has magic then maybe certain things and events have a way of happening that fits into a certain type of theme, like good guys triumphing over the bad guys and reformation of criminals being necessary to make a place bettet.

Thor explained something like this in the Child of The Storm fanfic where he says certain events have a way of happening and repeating themselves due to the magic of the universe and the Dreaming.

 

*Looks at the Teen Titans Comics.

Yeah, fuck that.

Is mostly because these Teen Titans are a kids cartoon.

If they were in the comics then the young Heroes death count would rival X-Men.

My way of seeing it is this:

Parallel Universes ARE Parallel, they are basically variations of the same thing.

As a result there are things that will be similar and things that will happen in a similar way. The farther you go from your own universe the less parallels and so the less coincidences.

 

Someone googled "Linda Balder" and saw the obituary post. The rest doesn't take much digging.

 

And this is why authors use pen-names, or 'handles', or whatever you call them. Though, past a certain point, very few of them are water-tight. Hence, 'doxing'.

 

"to is the head of?"
I think is should be there

 

So...... that's a no on cute apprentice spider-chibi?
(╥﹏╥)

 

OL: Don't put kids in danger! Now come on Robin, Zatanna, we've got a Lantern Dragon to catch!

 

'on his ship' or 'on the ship' not 'on the his ship'

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

And just think about how that turned out for him.

 

Awww thats cute. Like this won't blow up in his face..

 

It's not like he had much choice in them becoming superheroes.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

That segue into spiderchibi was fantastic. Caught me by surprise, and only then could I see how it was built towards. Nice.

I hope we see more spiderchibi.

 

We know from the series Young Justice America does.

Which means they successfully hid it from Paul, so props to them.

 

What season was it unveiled?

 

Wow, the scene really did spread fast, eh? I suppose with so little else going on, the Amazons are incorrigible gossips.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Ooh, petty. Now they miss out on two fun things today.

Yes, I suppose poking your head in the door isn't going to help the discussion much. Especially considering Cyprian's deal with the Orange Lantern Corps.

Which I suspect she already knows. Her ring would have alerted her to the extra Lantern on-planet as soon as Kori passed the edge of the atmosphere.

Then again, how does it work for outsiders? A token nod in the Altar's direction as you go past?

Trying to stay on Athena's good side, eh? And assuming she can see you just via proximity to her temple? Good move.

Oh, don't worry, I think Athena has no reason to dislike you. Heck, you're actually increasing the spread of knowledge with your work.

Hephaestus, he's cool. Hades loves him for the fresh workload. Eris is a little annoyed sometimes, but.. Oh, and he knows Pluotos too.

Because of course she knows about that. How could she not have heard about it?

Which is itself a little worrying.

Well, the war with the Reach can't last forever, I suppose. Secondary and/or follow-up goals for the win.

She sounds almost disappointed. I suppose John and Guy have been telling her stories...

And what of Ptra? I take it she was smart enough not to show her face...

Eh, he didn't know enough about his nation to realise it, that's his problem... Perhaps he should have been more diligent.

That's only a part of the story. There's more to him than that alone.

And who did that tutoring, anyway? Vulko? Who knows what he left out in the interests of having a pliable patsy for a king?

Yeah, that might have been quite the scandal. Especially since he's blond, which is a taboo in some version of Atlantis' history.

I'm sure it made sense to her at the time. Maybe she was worried they'd try to assassinate him in favour of Orm if they'd known about him?

Gutsy of her. Space tends to be a secondary concern to matters on the local scale.

Remember, folks, that's the Russian teen hero, not our dear Koriand'r.

Oh, that's fine then-... Wait... What?

Who in the what now buhah?! That must be seriously top secret!

And he's almost certainly doing it for the sake of Russia alone, not the planet as a whole. argh.

Hmm... I wonder how that's going in the Renegade's timeline, in light of that Lex's planned space fleet.

Be careful what you hope for, OL. It may go poorly. Because Humans.

Well, that was a surprising course of conversation. From the Poseidonis/Venturia talks to OL's off-world shenanigans to 'Oh, hey, Russia's go a Space Fleet.' The things that happen in under five minutes in this story.

They are going to unveil it officially...

 

That's the first time I've seen a heroic moral protagonist cheer for an arms race after actually understanding what it entails, and I can't disagree.

 

Paul doesn't actually understand what it will entail.

Unfortunately given his history, Zoat almost assuredly won't play things straight to what would realistically result from this.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Chojin, Vulko appears to be just a research mage in this story so it's unlikely he taught Orin anything about Atlantean culture and society, unlike the movie version, who was essentially the Good Advisor trope and didn't try to make him into some kind of pliable patsy or anything like that.

One of the reasons Atlanna chose Orin to rule could be because she may have resented Orm.

Was watching Throne of Atlantis abridged and the reason she chose Orin was because she resented Orm as her marriage to his father was against her wishes and she wanted to change their ways.

If Atlanna in this story didn't like her marriage then maybe she also resented Orm a bit.

Although unlike the abridged version of her I'm fairly certain this one never thought of giving her son a name that starts with A and ends with bortion.

The fact that he also started a terrorist group to overthrow his brother also doesn't exactly say good things about his mentality.

The worst Orin did was neglect his duties. That's not exactly a good reason to start a criminal group. If Orin was a depraved and tyrannical ruler then a criminal group trying to overthrow him would be a good thing, but he isn't that type of ruler.

Atlanna watched her son grow so she would have a good idea of how he thinks and if she saw some things she didn't like then she may have thought Orin was a better candidate. Orm also wanted to conquer the surface world in the comics, so maybe the YJ version also wanted to do that. Even if he's not a Purist he may still be an Atlantean supremacist. Even if Orm got the throne that may not have stopped him from doing some fairly evil and stupid things. Some people will do stupid and evil things even if they lack any good reason or justification to do them. Pre flashpoint Blackfire comes to mind when she still engaged in stupid villainous activities even if she already got the throne, as well as ignoring warnings about her worlds imminent destruction without attempting to hear out the one warning them.

Truly pre flashpoint Kom and Orm are the last two people that should be given power and authority over anything. The likes of Luthor have at least tried to be better people on occasions.

What season did they show that fleet exactly?

If its season three then either they haven't made it yet, or Zoat can just ignore it since he started writing this story well before that season and some things he added in his story contradict the things in the show, like Barda still working for the bad guys in the show while here she defected.

The only space defences the Earth had aside from the League would be Warmoon, but the Light still haven't gotten their hands on it yet and may not get it in this story.

It may result in them cooperating more since they've seen how easily an alien presence can disrupt their world even when it isn't trying to do that. There does come a point where even idiots can make smart decisions. Also they have the League who may try to stop one country from attacking others without provocation. The fact that they would have the approval of the majority of the UN in this case would also allow them to get around any legal issues.

If they do decide to war with each other the league can just stop them and ignore the deal with the UN.

Also a small fleet of primitive space ships may not do that much and the US is working on dealing with alien and hostile threats from space, as shown renegade side, so if comes to conflict they may be able to deal with a primitive and small fleet.

 

You are forgetting the same thing Paul did.

It violates the Outer Space Treaty.

Meaning this isn't a "cold war space race" sort of thing, but a "we don't have to hide our shit any more" sort of thing.

Which in turn will almost assuredly lead to a hot war due to the US having spent the past 70 years being crashed Alien Spaceship and Supergenius central.

 

I'm wondering, a bit, about whether OL could sensibly build some ships with Orange Light AIs... What would they be built to want? And, what would the consequences be...

Would he have any use for an asteroid-located 'Fortress of Solitude'? Bait?

I can't see he'd have an obvious use for 'off-shore servers', that he couldn't satisfy somewhere on Earth, without worrying about installing a FTL comms link. (FTL comms, and a stock-trading AI, how to really upset the high-frequency traders - get the international legislation improved? Why isn't LLMK playing this game?)

Of course, they'd be his personal ships, and, that they existed at all might well interfere with his 'Earth gets a Space presence' plans.