With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

"activates"?
There was a lot of mistakes around orange girl, is she that distracting?

 

Thank you, corrected.

Um, no.

 

Don't worry, none of us are judging you if you got distracted when you were writing about her.

She can be a rather... distracting figure when you're thinking about her, just ask Detective Montoya, those hooligans in Gotham that she was reprimanding, and basically anyone that is even remotely interested in women, and a few that probably aren't.

 

Well, it could just be a 'closest equivalent to English' translation going on, much like his designated title. Since he got cured/fixed before we saw the end of what he was saying it's unknown if he was actually quoting the DoI intentionally or not.

Though the fact that he came so close to doing so had me thinking for a moment or three that the Starro angle might be a decoy (in-story or out); this was actually done by a secret cabal of super-nationalistic/McCarthy-era American wizards who are upset one way or another that there were Russian spaceships flying about.

 

Someone said that it may be Uncle Sam who is responsible for this.

 

Ha!

 

Hi Mr Zoat. Here are a few more corrections.

 

Damn Protheans stealing muh ships!

 

And if they come to Earth then they're going to steal our jobs!

That redneck from South Park was right!

 

Is... is he becoming self-aware?

 

Right? That actually reminds me of a question I came across recently which was "what does it feel like to be wrong?" And while the obvious answer is something along the lines of "bad" the correct answer is that it feels just like being right. So yeah, I'm actually rather impressed.

 

It's not you. It's me I hate.

Spoiler: Protheans stealing your ship

 

Zoat made magic come from the Dreaming.

Why that leads to magic not working in outer space when the domains of the Endless extend to planets and stars, comets, meteors, black holes, and nebulae, I remain unsure of.

In Vertigo, it was claimed that Earth has life because Dream inspired Earth by giving the planet the dream of containing life, I understand.

 

The metaphysics of the comics may not count in this story.

Also I think its more like magic is more easier to use on a planet, especially one with people on it, because those people have shaped it through the Dreaming, while in space, where there are no people, it would be virtually impossible.

Magic may exist in deep space, but it may be so thin and alien that it's impossible to make use of.

Just because the domains of the Endless extend to space, that doesn't mean mortals will be able to use magic in space. There is an entire universe of difference between a mortal and something like the Endless.

 

Are the lights of emotion everywhere? Remember that lanterns carry batteries and charged rings that let them use it.

Many different fictional sources use the idea that magic doesn’t work unless it’s in some kind of mana rich environment. I imagine that if a caster was able to bottle magical energy in the same way a lantern has one of the emotions that they would be quite capable anywhere they went.

 

just 'further into' not 'into further into'

maybe 'some humans'

'think' not 'thing'

 

At this point, Paul should really take a leaf out of Gravys book and start doing his own thing. Still being a tag along for the JL is just ridiculous.

 

Ah, ah, ah, no crew means that under international law they aren't Russian ships any longer.

And that means, that legally speaking the US now possess salvage rights to the formerly Russian space craft.

 

Not necessarily, salvage rights are kind of messed up with regard for ships.

You could locate and claim the rights for a complete wreck, and you'll likely not get much if anything from it legally.

 

Not sure that space ships were covered under international law.

The fact that Russia may go to war for those ships would also put a plug on the attempt at taking them.

Adams is also the only one that works for the US and even he may not try to claim them, as while he may have more faith in the military and the US government than the other members of the League, said faith may have been tempered after the whole Eiling thing with the betrayal.

Also he's smart enough to know that a war could happen if he tried that shit.

The charter the League has with the UN may also cover something like this so that the tech is shared with all.

 

I'm pretty sure there are already salvage laws concerning space craft and other man made things in space.

 

You would be right, if Russia was still a part of the Outer Space Treaty, but they they very specifically withdrew from that.

As to causing a War, he's smart enough to know that's unavoidable now that Russia withdrew from the OST.

See, interesting fact, without the legal protections of the OST, sovereign airspace comes into effect in concerns to orbits.

 

But his info is a little behind the times. Who's to say what's been going on aboard-ships in the time it's been absent (less than six hours at this point?)

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Ah, Manga Khan. Never underestimate an Orange Lantern's ability to ignore what they don't want to hear...

Itself a significant fact. It appears the ship's systems are completely off-line, then.

Like, say, self-destruct charges planted by whoever was responsible. Because they've no doubt wired it to blow.

Please be Alan, please be Alan...

<facepalm> Seniority at work. Even though Alan has twenty-odd years of hero experience on Major Adams.

Looks like Alan is getting the hang of the now-standard techniques for Lanterns. Good to see him back in the saddle.

Now that the REMFs have bowed out... Let's get serious.

I'm sure it's a fascinating concept to her. Tamaraneans would never think to conceal their identity that way, would they?

I doubt he feels relieved, Especially since Adams has minimal experience in this situation. I suppose his military training might useful.

Yep, someone did a number on them. A crew member trying to protect company secrets, or the ones who hijacked the ship covering their tracks, though?

I bet that makes it awkward for him. No wonder he wasn't using his ring much last episode.

Not yet. One more thing for the UN's docket concerning off-world stuff.

Which Orange Lantern would that be, Captain?

I suspect the League tend to be more casual about the Greenies' identities, at least when no-one who doesn't know them is listening.

So far, it's not looking good on that front, Adams.

I see he recognises that OL knows what he's doing. Sign of a decent leader there. Presumably, he's also holding the only known egress point.

Ah, I bet it won't take long for their insurance company to close that loophole. Probably with an additional surcharge for each additional colour other than Green.

They're not going to assist you in committing insurance fraud, Manga Khan... But, hey, if the ship does happen to be boobytrapped...

Confident, isn't he? Though I suspect actual anti-lantern weapons have treaties limiting their use...

Ah, the nobility gets to avoid having to hobnob with the peons, eh?

He really has no plan, does he?

Careful, careful...

Oh, that's not good...

Oh hey, it is boobytrapped...

And they spend the next five minutes waiting for something to happen. Or the ship explodes!

Hopefully, the vibrations aren't anything major. Surprised OL didn't subspace or otherwise move the Russian ships out of caution (though there's always tomorrow.) I'm sure the Russians will want them back in as intact a shape as they can be...

 

Firstly, I think that Zoat mentioned they still haven't withdrawn from the treaty and were just planning on doing it and encouraging others to do it.

Withdrawing from the treaty would not cause a war to break out, especially since even if the Russians withdrew from it before they sent those ships they didn't exactly break any of its rules, like no WMD on them, or claiming space as your own sovereign territory, all they wanted was to establish contact with the Cluster ship, which is a peaceful thing to do and allowed under the treaty.

The various countries of the Earth really have no justification for starting a war with Russia, and why would they want to considering that Russia is one of the most powerful countries on the planet. The most many could hope for is that Russia starts an exchange program where they can share tech.

Yes the US has many superheroes and metas, but Russia has large armies, as well as advanced tech like the Rocker Red suits.

Americas metahuman development program may not be as advanced in the paragon timeline as it's advanced in the renegade timeline because they've developed a reliance on the League for these sorts of things and see no further need to advance.

 

It would be really rather dumb to start asserting independent authority in the middle of an operation.

Afterwards? I mean, yes, Batman and many of the other members of the Justice League (Lanterns Jordan and Stewart especially, but also the Hawks) are showing a remarkable amount of bias against Paul, given his power and proven track record of suggesting and implementing necessary reforms, both within the Justice League and without. If Paul wanted to make a point of it, he could probably get a number of League members to take his side if he attempted to make an issue of it, but maybe not, given that Paul himself has done rather little to soften his sometimes abrasive personality with anyone other than Wonder Woman.

The thing is, Paul himself has been mostly treading water since he came back from Vega, and it really shows. He's pulled back from trying to advance Earth's tech level, has mostly coasted along with few big moves in the past year on terms of making Atlantean magitech more widely available, and punted the issue of determining why Earth isn't advancing on its own over to Georgia Sivana months ago with no follow-up. In general he's downshifted into being the same sort of reactive personality that he had spent his first year lambasting the various members of the League for being; at this point, why should the League treat him as anything other than another random masked face-puncher, one with less than two years of experience under his belt?

 

The only GL that may be biased against Paul is Hal, the others are either on friendly or neutral terms with him.

He most likely doesn't feel it's necessary for him to get involved in every single technological advancement now that he's actually started a technological revolution. He wants other people to take initiative in advancing the planet and not depend on just one guy for it.

Giving the task to Georgia was also a smart thing considering she is a brilliant social scientist and he may still be communicating with her about it, albeit offscreen, but either she still hasn't found anything, or is focusing on the Sheeda problem right now and is going to do his project after they've been dealt with.

 

Thank you, corrected.

I think the game's writers assumed that at this point the PC would have either been promoted, gone independent or gone villain and just rushed the 'stay with the team' plotting.

No he hasn't. He's been doing the same things, though perhaps this is my fault for not continuing to bring up examples other than Venturia.

 

You can force the company/nation who owns it to pay you for the salvage costs, IIRC.

This is more likely to be relevant with Manga Khan's ship.

 

Well, right now his involvement is forcing everyone on earth to face the huge, gaping holes in their legislature regarding the reality of alien life.

That's a pretty massive political shift.

I'd call that progress.

(Also, Eris is probably jacking off over this)