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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Information era

    Information era Getting sticky.

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    You have a warped view of what "uplift" means. It means to make things better, not more technologically advanced.
     
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  2. Darko

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    Or it could mean that he succeeded in uplifting his society, but started out doing that with some brutal methods.

    Or he's a good and competent guy.

    Paul guessed that she would be a good fit for a blue ring after he rescued her. He just didn't have one.

    And Paul once merged with the embodiment of avarice, and yet he somehow managed to stay a good and highly competent guy.

    It is also possible that he stopped using his more brutal methods on Thundera now, because civilization can function without such methods.

    Earth Bet civilization is slowly falling down the toilet and some brutal methods may be necessary to make it so that it has even a small chance of success in surviving.

    And improving tech can make a place better.

    Things like advanced medicine and agriculture by way of tech would make things better.
     
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  3. Information era

    Information era Getting sticky.

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    None of what is actually causing earth bet civilization to die can be laid at the feat of random criminal gangs. He isn't going after the endbringers or actual threats. He isn't addressing the water crisis, the damage done from endbringers, or anything. He is rearranging the decks on the titanic because trying to rub in how superior his methods are gives him a hard on the size of the ophidian.
     
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  4. Chojin Patriarch

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    Ha, she was probably capable of speaking English within five minutes of meeting OL. Depending on how soon she could get skin contact.

    She's just so... Infectious, isn't she? She feels like that other new Blue Lantern YJ SI, and it's lovely.

    Some kind of specialised telepathic link that specifically requires skin contact? I wouldn't be surprised if it was intended as some form of conditioning tool too.

    Yeah, I don't think Komy would appreciate the apparent favouritism. Even if you didn't mean it like that, she'd probably see it that way. Now, if you gave it to her, she'd probably be fine with it.

    Heh. Feels like something else, doesn't it, Alan?

    Amazed she isn't vibrating with glee and anticipation... Then again, that's be kind of obvious...;)

    Don't worry, Alan, you've got a few more years in you now. And this is only a loan. Unless something comes up.

    Much nicer than the orange. She certainly looks better in blue, at least. A natural contrast...

    Safe to assume she's actually using the ring for flight here. After all, she can fly without it...

    Like a kid with a new bike. If she isn't back by dark, worry.

    Ultimately, the only orange she needs is her skin colour.

    Kalmin: "Ugh, another one of those things? Fiiiine."

    Is Alan capable of feeling Hope that strongly for that long, though? Especially without enlightenment,

    If he could, everyone would know about it. He'd be crowing his 'victory' over Jordan to the heavens.

    And I doubt anyone's considered implementing some kind of deputy ring protocol. Too... New 52... GL comics.

    To be honest, it was simple enough back then, it probably could have seemed like a magic artifact.

    Although... Ted did create the Cosmic Rod, which some continuities treat like a power ring of sorts...

    Don't worry, Alan, most older people feel that way about 'newfangled' technology...

    I'll bet. I wonder how many times they pranked her back then?

    Yeah, probably why their relationship didn't work out. Kind of uneven power balance.

    Man, that would have been a sight.

    The joy of outliving all your old buddies. Even Jay isn't a spring chicken himself. Still, a little hope goes a long way.

    Seeing the lights go out would probably hurt, yes. I expect that'll haunt him for a while.

    It's dead, what's to investigate? That's probably their rationale...

    Sometimes, you need to do things.You may not think you need to, you may not want to, but sometimes, they can make you feel better for doing them. It's part of adulthood.

    ...Yeah, I think she likes it. OL, get on that Blue set, now. We need more Blue Lantern Koriand'r, stat!

    I'm not even going to ask about the teddy bears, much less the bicycle. Still, that's another project for OL to get working on. One of many, I expect we'll see him going around checking in on.
    As for the Worm stuff... Can we please just let it rest? Yes, Lord Protector's coming in like a brick in a sock. We know, the Worm-verse always gets worse. Let's leave the power-level wankery to SV and relax before someone gets really red-ring-tier angry? We'll see what happens later.

    Corrections
    ...and hesitantly holds it out to her.
    Double space.
    It could be an interesting change of pace.
    Not sure if correct or you meant 'missions'...
     
  5. NightmareWarden

    NightmareWarden Versed in the lewd.

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    Adara, embodiment of Hope, might take a shine to Starfire for better or worse. Troubling.
     
  6. Darko

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    The criminals aren't exactly making things better for Earth Bet civilization, and he may deal with those other issues once he's dealt with the worst criminal offenders. The criminals are just the simplest and easiest to deal with right now.

    She actually got knowledge of English from prince Karras, the noble she was supposed to marry and the one that kissed OL when they first met.:D

    If you're talking about the one from 'I'm Blue' then yes, yes she is.

    Now I really wanna see those two meet.

    I'd say it would be for the better.

    Adara is a sweetheart compared to the other embodiments.
     
  7. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Versed in the lewd.

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    How does Hope lead to teddy bears and a bicycle? Does it manipulate games of chance?

    Oh wow, if it can change statistical outcomes that could actually be extremely OP.
     
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  8. Information era

    Information era Getting sticky.

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    An additional 2 minutes of research would bring up the endbringer truce and the fact that the endbringers are such a big threat that allowing the existence of supervillains just to have additional bodies to throw at them is the point where they are at.
     
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  9. l---erddad---l

    l---erddad---l Wait, google can see this?

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    I mean, I'm pretty sure it would still fuck Koriand'r up to merge with the hopes and dreams of the entire universe, it's just that instead of bunkering down and going "fulfill the desires of those I care about and facilitate my desires in ways consistent with the before", she would immediately start flying around the universe solving problems, pulling a veritable Scion (tbf, she would probably be able to prioritize a little bit based on what hopes are the strongest and hoped by the most people, but still).
     
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  10. Darko

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    Probably not.

    OL spent some time mastering his ring and the orange light before he merged with the Ophidian, so if Kori also does that then I'd say it's a good bet that she may end up like Paul, enlightened and with a new best friend in the Hope Entity.
     
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  11. Information era

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    PDV: And he has years and possibly decades of practice being a necessary dictator handing out draconian justice, and it working. Of course when he enters another world and finds it to be even more of a mess - technologically more advanced, but a bigger mess nonetheless - he isn't going to look too hard for alternatives.

    That would mean that he never improved his kingdom, and that is at been stuck at a communist dictatorship with draconian laws for decades. That would be an example of him utterly failing to actually uplift the society.​
    Darko: Or it could mean that he succeeded in uplifting his society, but started out doing that with some brutal methods.


    Darko, at least pay attention to what I am replying to. As is, the pro-LP side has a bunch of conflicting reasoning where some of his actions can possibly be excused but not all of them.
     
  12. Cuchulin

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    Only down side to this Kori? She didn't learn English by kissing Dick.
     
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  13. AngelicKnight.

    AngelicKnight. Lewd demon of negotiable affection

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    Link please?

    Also blue Starfire huh? Nice to see her trying new things.
     
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  14. Darko

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    I am.

    You said that he never improved his society because he used draconian laws.

    I said that he may have started out using such laws, but stopped using them when his society no longer required them, even if he used such laws for decades.

    Now that he's in a world where society is falling apart he may view it as necessary to use his draconian methods to solve some of the problems, but would stop using such methods when they are no longer required.

    Think that's more of a downside for him.:D

    Don't know how to leave a link, sorry.

    You can just click on the young justice tag at the top and look for a story titled 'I'm Blue'. It should be at the very top.

    That or you can just search for the authors name, Zarori, on google.
     
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  15. Ngamer11

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    Coincidentally, another long running DC fanfic has recently given their version of Starfire a blue ring. It's called I want to play a Game. It can also be found in SV. I would recommend it to anyone who wants to see another good Lantern fanfic, please check it out. Also, that Starfire legitimately owns the blue ring; I hope this one can get one as well and help start up a Blue Lantern Corps. Side note, is there a chance of any version of Paul helping to create a Corps that is made up of different colors like in I want to play a Game?
     
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  16. Darko

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    If Paul keeps on doing some of the things he is doing now, like getting Kori a blue ring, then he may just make more than one Corps.

    The same goes with renegade when he had that red ring made.
     
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  17. Chojin Patriarch

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    I'm Blue. It's a new fic, still fairly short, but entertaining.
     
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  18. Rebu

    Rebu hey, little Anna, you're the one

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    "Did you pay for those?"

    "I just told them to bill it to the Cake Man."
     
  19. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Good? I guess I will give you that.

    But Competent? I mean, maybe if you had said skilled I would agree. But Paul flits from one shiny thing to another far to much to be considered competent.
     
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    Okay, fair enough. However, those numbers are derived from an analysis done on Earth Bet as it is in canon. If LP actually sticks around, his presence would likely mitigate the damage done by the threats Number Man listed.


    His brutality here can still fit into that mindset. The strength of a yellow lantern's constructs is influenced by fear, by casually massacring some of the more powerful capes in the city with a lot of flash and spectacle, he ensures that others in the future will be more afraid of him than they otherwise would be.

    Fixing those sorts of things would be more of a long-term project. Dealing with the crime problem is a fairly long-term project too, but he only really needs to deal with some of the bigger players, the ones like Lung who local law enforcement struggles to deal with. Take care of enough of them, and the police and PRT can get a grip on the rest. He could then use the publicity from this to increase his profile and leverage that to help him in endeavours like providing drinking water and revitalizing the economy.


    Button at the top of the reply box, same section as the image, video, and insert table buttons. Button for links looks like a couple of links of chain.
     
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  21. Darko

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    His battle record and skill in wielding his ring, plus his wins against powerful opponents proves that he is highly competent.
     
  22. Darko

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    Thanks.
     
  23. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Did she win those at a carnival, or was she mugging childrem for them?

    Also, touch Zoat? Not kiss?
     
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  24. Darko

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    It's apparently more fun to kiss someone.

    And it may be quicker to assimilate a language through a kiss.
     
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    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    That depressed fishperson? Outstanding story, but hardly lovely.

    You.. you pervert!
     
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  26. Darko

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    I think you're mixing up stories.

    He's talking about 'I'm Blue'
     
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    Okay, here you go.
     
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  28. Darko

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    Ohh, you meant the song.

    Another theme for this episode could be Kori getting used to the whole superhero thing on Earth.

    If she is going to try and get the hang of a blue ring then she may need to stay around Earth for at least a little while.
     
  29. Information era

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    The stuff number man listed wasn't a single threat you could deal with, it was an assessment that the parahuman community was a powderkeg waiting to explode. To reasonably mitigate them, he would have to be night omnipresent.

    Casual murder doesn't inspire much fear. Doing it slower and more deliberate, showing off that the capes had no way to fight back, that would actually inspire fear on a level that he could use. He is just killing people without even making sure he has an audience. That doesn't led itself well to generating widespread fear except in possibly the undersiders and skitter.

    Dealing with the endbringers, if he could, is a relatively simple thing. Ziz is just hanging out in orbit. If he actually cared about them and was capable of dealing with them, he could just pot shot her as he entered and be done with the most serious threat that earth bet knows about. As it stands, he appears to not know about the endbringers and it is questionable if he could kill any of the endbringers, even just the three that currently exist.

    Or if he cared about dealing with the things he could just check off, he could go after the slaughterhouse nine, sleeper, the blasphemies, or any actual widespread threat. As is, he just killed some random parahumans, one of which wasn't even functioning as a supervillain. He isn't checking seems to think he can just make some rounds and fix the problem.


    Generating fear? no
    Dealing with serious threats? no
    Dealing with long term threats? no
    Dealing with what is in his immediate vicinity, without giving more than two seconds of thought as to any of it? yes.

    So yeah, he is either being evil or incompetent.

    He isn't operating with metaknowledge or seemingly any knowledge beyond asking the ring about his immediate environment. If he is supposed to be the vetinari of the pauls, why hasn't he started out by at least taking an hour or two to research the world? He appears to have just popped in and decided to start murdering criminals. Though at the end of the day, this is all because zoat hasn't taken even an hour to read up on worm or asked anyone questions about the setting before writing about it.
     
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    No, I meant Hopeless.
     
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