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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Unless she's in bipedal ape form? Ouu, new arc for In Praise of Eros?
     
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  2. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Miami Vice called. They don't want their style back because it was dumb the first time around.
    They can compromise. Him in pony form, her in human form, so they each find the other sexy.
    Plus it lets him do the "hung like a horse" puns, and you know he will.
     
  3. FeepingCreature

    FeepingCreature Not too sore, are you?

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    That's simultaneously obvious and brilliant.

    When one said "how do a pony and a human have sex", it did not occur to me that turning them into a human and a pony would improve the situation.
     
  4. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Have you not been to Tijuana, or watched Kinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud?

    We need a time machine so we can go back and shoot whoever first wrote Bennifer, in the fucking face. With bullets, until they die.
     
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  5. Ace Dreamer

    Ace Dreamer Questioning The Nature of our Realities

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    Both be (winged, horned) centaurs? Then, each focus on the bits of the other they find attractive?

    Every time I see one of those mangled names my brain goes "Yer what???", so, while I can't condone the violence I can see why you're annoyed.

    Name are hard enough to wrangle, for some, without you inflicting extra pain on them...
     
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  6. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    No, Krypto exists in YJ.

    When someone suggested naming Wolf Krypto, Miss Martian replies that name is already taken.

    The common wisdom is that Wolf is YJ's answer to Rex the Wonder Dog, Rex being a very intelligent dog that was given a supersoldier serum ala Captain America.
     
  7. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    I remember that in Life Ore Death Supes had Krypto as a pet and used him to pretend to be a blind man with a seeing eye dog.

    Krypto apparently was like Icon, in that he looked a whole lot more alien when he came to Earth, but after landing there his ship changed him to look like an Earth dog.
     
  8. Whenever Possible

    Whenever Possible Versed in the lewd.

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    It was a joke,
     
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  9. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    It is still a great joke.

     
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  10. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    So...

    ...If this movie exists on Earth 16 then I bet this scene is going to get a LOT of views if renegades dating of a horse becomes known.
     
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  11. Ace Dreamer

    Ace Dreamer Questioning The Nature of our Realities

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    "'Pony', not 'horse'."

    You know, combining the Mirror and a boom/hush tube could do great things for the porn industry. :)

    Does make you wonder, though, if Joe Public goes through the Mirror whatever comes out the other end isn't likely to be terribly magical...

    Going the other way, you might want to imagine Discord in a London pub chatting to someone we don't get to see, that he calls 'John'...
     
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  12. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    That's what the Mirror is for Zoat.
     
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  13. Threadmarks: A Week in the Life of (part 5)
    Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    "What's your favorite book?"

    I.. frown slightly. Leonard generally doesn't bother with personal questions, and… He doesn't respond all that well if I try asking them. But it's not as if it's a security risk.

    "Small Gods, by Terry Pratchett."

    He looks away pensively.

    "Second favorite?"

    "Night Watch, also by Terry Pratchett."

    "He your favorite author?"

    "Yes. Um, if you're interested… I'm sorry, but he doesn't exist in this reality, and I've only ever been able to do a ninety six percent recreation of Small Gods…"

    "No, it's… Something Wizard said."

    "Wiz-?"

    If Wizard's out then I need to speak to John-.

    "Weather Wizard, not.. whoever you were thinking of."

    "William Zard. He operates under the name 'Wizard' and he was one of the people responsible for Roanoke Island."

    Leonard looks right at me, his eyes widening slightly. "Shit. Yeah, not him. I never even heard of him."

    "You might want to suggest to Mister Mardon that he consider a different abbreviation. If the police hear someone call him 'Wizard', they might just shoot first without checking."

    "See, this was what he was talking about. You just gave me advice to give him so he doesn't get killed because the cops thought he was someone else."

    "Okay?"

    "Do you have people..? Superheroes, who are total psychos?"

    "I… Generally wouldn't call people like that 'superheroes'. I mean… There was The Reaper in Gotham. That was after Green Lantern One left but before Batman started working there. He murdered.. quite a lot of people. Quite a lot of them had it coming…" I frown. "Do you actually know anything about Gotham?"

    "Everyone who lives there is crazy."

    "Hey, I live-. Yeah, okay."

    "I went to Gotham once, 'cause Mister Freeze had some equipment I needed. Never went back again."

    "Right, but the city's history?"

    "Used to be an alright place, then manufacturing jobs left and crime went up." My surprise clearly shows on my face. "What? I go to Kadabra's lectures."

    "Sorry, sorry, I know you're intelligent, I just didn't think you were interested in that sort of thing."

    "No point robbing someone with no money."

    I give him a mildly disappointed look, to which he responds with a small smile.

    "What? There isn't."

    "So the Reaper… The place had gone to pot. The mob owned the police, the politicians and the judges. So the Reaper decided to kill them all."

    His smile grows slightly. "Didn't do a very good job."

    "There were a lot of them. He killed quite a few of them, then got too badly injured to carry on. By the time he was fighting fit again, Batman was in his second year and the police were starting to get straightened out. But he didn't care and went right back to murdering. Two honest policemen killed and several injured, Batman decided that the only way to keep the death toll down was to make a deal with the mobs-"

    "What?"

    "-for information."

    "No, no, you can't just drop something like that and keep talking."

    "What? Batman hated them, but the Reaper killed a lot of people in a short space of time. He thought that with their help he could deal with the Reaper in a few weeks, but that the mobs would be a long term problem whatever he did."

    "And given that Batman's still around and the Reaper isn't, I can guess how it went."

    "The Reaper's motives were a lot like Batman's. And his aims were too. But his methods weren't. If he'd been a little more discerning… I mean, Gotham was pretty bad. But the moment he killed honest police officers escorting a criminal they already had in custody, no one thought he was a superhero. He was just another serial killer."

    "But a supervillain's a supervillain."

    "I'd.. encourage you not to think about it in such binary terms."

    He leans back in his chair and waves his right hand. "I mean, the more violent a superhero is, the less heroic they are. But for a supervillain, the more violent you are, the more villainous you are."

    "That's… Surprisingly philosophical. What brought this on?"

    "The day after I told you Luthor offered me a job, I started getting letters. WayneTech, KordTech, a few other places…"

    "Mister Luthor may not be Alva, but I'd still be much happier with you working somewhere else. Almost anywhere else, in fact. It would be like putting a bottle of whiskey down next to an alcoholic."

    A reference to his father usually gets a scowl out of him, but he just looks away again.

    "It's about class."

    "In what sense?"

    "When I thought about what sort of supervillain I wanted to be. When I started out." He shakes his head. "I know Doc Quinzel wants me to say I'm lashing out at society 'cause I want to lash out at my dad, and… Yeah, she's probably.. not wrong. But you don’t tell yourself.. you're stealing from innocent people 'cause you can. You… Dress it up in your own head, too. Like, there was a story about one of the banks in Central City foreclosing on a whole lot of mortgages. I think.. one of the car factories closed and put a lot of people out of work." He shrugs. "So I robbed their vault. I didn't do it because they foreclosed; I don't know anyone who got a loan from them. I did it because… The fact they did that made it okay. They were bad, so… If I make their lives harder, so what?"

    He smiles.

    "If I shot some security guy dead when I was robbing a place, that's murder. And if I shot a psycho like Joker dead, it's still murder, but…"

    "But he has it coming, so it's easier to tell yourself that's why you did it. You don't have to internalise 'I'm a guy who will kill anyone to get his way'."

    "Yeah. Wiz-. Mark said something like that, once. 'Ask someone what their favorite book is'. 'cause… Anyone who's read a book has a favorite book, even if they don't like it much." He shrugs. "Right? And it's not like it's a big secret or anything. The only reason not to tell someone is if you've literally never read a book, or you're such a total psycho that you can't… Have a conversation without turning it into a fight."

    "And I don't think I'm that person. I know I never wanted to be. But I also know I can't tell you what my favorite book is."
     
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  14. Ganurath

    Ganurath Apologizes For Nothing

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    Pact, by Wildbow. If the selection is limited to dead tree format, then Chainer's Torment by Scott McGough.

    That being said, nice to see a moment of personal growth from one of Paul's reform projects... and that Lex is getting denied esoteric cryotechnology.
     
  15. DeathlessProficiency

    DeathlessProficiency Know what you're doing yet?

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    So... mans doesn’t read?
     
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  16. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    I mean... I won’t start a fight over it, but unless it’s someone I somewhat know, I’ll usually think “Why in the world are you asking me this?” “Are you trying to figure out my account security question for something?” and say something like “I like comedy books like Terry Pratchett’s but I can’t think of a favorite one.” or something.
     
  17. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I can't comment on Pact, but... I mean, yes, it was the best of a bad bunch of post-Weatherlight books, but 'Novels and Storylines' on the WotC board got renamed 'Storylines' and the whole forum got banned from talking about them for a reason.
     
  18. Phrexia Unbound

    Phrexia Unbound Oooh...that's good.

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    I'm sad now.
     
  19. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    I honestly couldn't say, because there are so many books that I just enjoy a lot, without there being a clear favourite. Probably Men at Arms by Terry Pratchett, though I haven't read it in two decades.
     
  20. Handlewithcare

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    Oh. That was very sad. Poor Leo.

    I also have trouble identifying my favourite book cause there are so many great ones.

    Terry Pratchet is my favourite author overall though, I would say. With Charles Stross and David Brin close seconds.

    Anyway, good to see Paul help a villain again. The philosophical, pragmatic discussions are a huge draw of this fic.
     
  21. RichardWhereat

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    Yeah, PTerry is definitely the best writer I've ever come across.
     
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    The Stand by Stephen king, Rules of Prey by John Sanford, and Jurassic Park Michael Crichton.
     
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    Ace Dreamer Questioning The Nature of our Realities

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    I'd be inclined to disagree with this...

    More, if you ask the question 'what's your favourite book' the answer you get may well tell you interesting things about the person questioned.

    Speaking for myself, I can't sensibly answer the question. I've read a lot of books, dead tree and electronic, at least thousands, but, how would I work out which is my favourite?

    Does that make me indecisive, 'complex', or something like terminally confused? :)

    I will admit to being curious why Mr Snart can't answer the question... He feels he's too fractured/broken?

    I'll admit it was fun chatting to TerryP, about ideas, in a bar in the UK, in the 1990s... There are advantages to attending science fiction conventions...
     
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    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    I'd also have to go with Pratchett, although in my case it's Thud!.
     
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  25. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Indecisive with an imperfect memory so that you can't judge them all side by side? Also a psycho.

    However, I'm inclined to believe that he's just being extra down on himself, and has conjured a reason to insult himself.
     
  26. Ace Dreamer

    Ace Dreamer Questioning The Nature of our Realities

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    I've been told my memory is 'too good', as I rarely (totally) forget stuff... But, maybe I'll go with 'a bit mad', and try (and likely fail) to forget about the question. :)
     
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    Dresden Files: Small Favor by Jim Butcher.
     
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    Ganurath Apologizes For Nothing

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    That reason was the Onslaught trilogy, all three books of which were by J. Robert King. That, or forum mismanagement. Alarming number of photographs of distended rectums stuffed with bandanas, in those days.
     
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    Ironically if I was asked that question I'd unironically answer "With This Ring" :p

    Or Ciaphas Cain.
     
  30. Chojin Patriarch

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    A regular meeting with Leonard 'Captain Cold' Snart. He's still in prison, isn't he? Belle Reve, I suppose.

    "I, uh... I never heard of him..."

    You have class, at least, that's one of the best Discworld novels.

    Man, if only you could have accessed the internet in a place Sir Terry did write. Snag a collection of e-books. Too bad you didn't get the chance in the Buffyverse. Then again, early internet era anyway.

    The joy of there only being so many logical cape names. Sooner or later, someone's going to end up with the same name as someone else, who might not want to share.

    Yeah, not a good association for Mardon.

    'Weather Warlock', perhaps. Or 'The Meteomancer..." On second thoughts, no. That makes him sound like a magical cook (meaty-o-mancer:p...)

    Well, Mardon could be useful concerning weather control tech. Would you want to risk losing that to a nervous Central City cop?

    Besides 'Don't go there, it's fucked up'?

    At least he can laugh at himself. Can you see Batman making a joke like that?

    A long, sordid tale of bad people using good people...

    Everyone has hidden depths, OL. Just because he doesn't show it doesn't mean he doesn't know it.

    He's got a fair point. No profit in taking from the poor. Just bad karma.

    Dude, do you know what Gotham was like before Batman? 'Cesspool' would be being charitable.

    I mean... I can see him making them useful to him, but...

    I know, right? Seriously, that's...

    That's usually what happens when Batman is involved in something. Or any popular hero, really. Yay for the Law of Narrative Causality.

    And he makes a good example of why Batman shouldn't kill people, too. I mean, sure, Bats says 'I wouldn't be able to stop', but that's a worst-case scenario. And as the Texans say: Some people need killin'.

    Yeah, you can be a punch-clock villain, with an honest moral code. Or you could be an asshole knight paladin of a 'hero' with no room for shades of grey in your worldview. There's all sorts.

    There's still a point where you go from mere villain to complete monster. Joker is a good example of the latter.

    Dude... His dad was... Ah. That was intentional.

    Yep. The Rogues have a code of honour. You don't backstab each other, you don't hurt anyone who isn't getting in your way, and you don't be a dick about the work.

    Acceptable targets. It's still bad, but it's bad people suffering so it's okay? But the CEOs don't feel the hit from it. It's the people underneath them, all the way down to the tellers, who cop wage cuts to cover the insurance hike...

    As I said before: Some people need killin'. I think Batman might be a little miffed, but most Gothamites won't shed a tear for old Jack.

    Insightful. A good way to tell the okay people from the bad... But not a perfect one.

    It's not like you don't have time to read. Why not hit up the prison library? :D

    It's easy to forget guys like Leonard are actually pretty smart. But something like this is a good reminder that he's not just a thug with an ice gun. I honestly find myself hoping he can finally go straight... But then I remember how well that usually goes for Rogues.
    And on the topic of favourite books? I don't have a particular favourite, but Pratchett's Discworld and Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar series are always a good read. The earlier David Eddings fantasy series (Belgariad, Elenium and their sequels) tend to be my popcorn reads, something comfortable when you want to relax.

    "What's your favourite book?"
    'Ask someone what their favourite book is'.
     
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