With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Darko]

Also, as The Froggy Ninja mentioned above; Lantern Son of Great Mother is a thing, and his entire shtick is that he wants someone to assign him mindless repetitive tasks for the rest of forever, which is fundamentally a desire for obedience

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Don't forget that slave Paul met in Vega.

She just wanted to follow someone and be obedient to them.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Tried to close a bold tag instead of italics here

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"father's"
"country"

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Thank you, corrected.

Huh. I wonder why the other nations never moved to stop them.

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I don't think I can answer this without [Modern Politics], but whatever country you just thought of, it's probably the same reason.

Not sure this quite lines up with the last time it was discussed:

Could be explained by the priesthood of the planet explicitly not teaching their women what the actual laws and rights were?

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I'll change it. They don't have legal divorce, but they do have de facto divorce.

 

[Darko]

Huh. I wonder why the other nations never moved to stop them. Fear of their 'god' maybe? Perhaps someone tried and an example was made...

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Jade's roommate on Maltus was from the planet with the eye god.

Though she was from a country that didn't worship the eye god.

She told Paul that the other governments on the planet wanted to stop the eye gouging, but the number of lives that would be lost in the war that would be required to make it happen were just too great for them to actually do it.

 

[LZB1285]

He didn't have having his eyes gouged out hanging over him for his entire childhood.

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Should this be "like having"?

 

[Mr Zoat]

Should this be "like having"?

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No. If you prefer, 'he didn't have the prospect of having his eyes gouged out'.

 

[boo600]

…I thought the whole planet worshipped the Eye-god? Dox didn't say "you've started a war no one else wanted," he said that there would be planet-wide unrest because the whole place depended on the Eye-Gouging God Religion for social order - it was woven into everyday life, like Christianity and Islam are for much of Earth. What is this about other nations and war? Does Taranna mean that other nations have aids for blind men, or that some sections of the planet allowed their blinded woman aids, meaning that she's from an extremely repressive part of an already extremely repressive planet? What's going on, here?

 

[Mr Zoat]

…I thought the whole planet worshipped the Eye-god?

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They did not.

Dox didn't say "you've started a war no one else wanted," he said that there would be planet-wide unrest because the whole place depended on the Eye-Gouging God Religion for social order - it was woven into everyday life, like Christianity and Islam are for much of Earth.

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Yes. I imagine that if martians came down and wrecked the Aztecs while Cortés watched it would have been fairly disruptive to life on Earth too.

What is this about other nations and war?

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To quote the Daleks...


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Does Taranna mean that other nations have aids for blind men, or that some sections of the planet allowed their blinded woman aids, meaning that she's from an extremely repressive part of an already extremely repressive planet?

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Various aids are available for blind people. They're not a monoculture, so it varies from place to place.

 

[Clell65619]

"That's fine, but I'd appreciate it if you'd visit Daxam first. Negotiations continue in nine hours or so, and I'd like the information by then. Sodam Yat is currently in Bir Tawil, so you can see him when I drop you off."

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Uh, isn't Daxam, like Krypton was, a high-gravity world? And doesn't the biology of evolving in that high-gravity environment account for at least some of the 'super strength' they have?

Or has that been retconted in of one of the multitude of 'crises' they've had over the last 40 years or so?

A Martian travelling to Earth would be subjected to 2.68 of his/her/its 'normal gravity'. Shape shifting could help, I guess, but still, living as if 2.7 of you were standing on top of you from every direction couldn't possibly be pleasant, and the atmospheric pressure would be a problem as well.

Is Paul going to equip J'aarkn with some exotic undetectable tech powered by high-grade handwavium to allow him to function in a high-gravity, high-pressure situation? Or is he doing his survey from orbit?

 

[Clell65619]

"Good show." I look down at the Earth, which miraculously hasn't exploded. "Alright, I'm turning in. Send me a message the moment anything changes."

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Oh, come on, Paul, Earth doesn't explode all that often.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Uh, isn't Daxam, like Krypton was, a high-gravity world? And doesn't the biology of evolving in that high-gravity environment account for at least some of the 'super strength' they have?

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Not since right near the start of the Golden Age, no.

Or has that been retconted in of one of the multitude of 'crises' they've had over the last 40 years or so?

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More the start of Silver Age, which was 1956 to 1970.

A Martian travelling to Earth would be subjected to 2.68 of his/her/its 'normal gravity'. Shape shifting could help, I guess, but still, living as if 2.7 of you were standing on top of you from every direction couldn't possibly be pleasant, and the atmospheric pressure would be a problem as well.

Is Paul going to equip J'aarkn with some exotic undetectable tech powered by high-grade handwavium to allow him to function in a high-gravity, high-pressure situation? Or is he doing his survey from orbit?

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And even if that wasn't true, J'aarkn is an expert shapeshifter. He could cope.

 

[Steelplaza]

Yeah, Martians aren't Kryptonians but they are considerable stronger than humans. A few extra Gs probably wouldn't be that big a deal. A bigger problem for J'aarkn is that you can walk around modern technological societies all day and not encounter any open flame, but a "primitivist" society like Daxam is likely to have an open hearth fire in every home. Not an insoluble problem, but certainly something to be wary about.

As for the daxamites, it's true that Lanterns could pretty reliably defeat them with the lead weakness, but the problem is more what kind of damage they could do before being defeated. Ending up with a few hundred casualties because a daxamite got to a populated area and carelessly flashed their heat vision around would be a failure as heroes.

 

[CrazyNoVa]

"No, but I'm not entirely sure what daxamites do with cultural iconoclasts." She jerks her head back towards me, looking concerned. "I've got some people checking now. My main concern here is that they'll try and force something. I assume that you fabricated-."

"Lead dust." She nods. "To weaken them but not kill them, because we can get it out of their bodies later."

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the Daxamites just be able to see the lead dust with their microscopic vision, and then blow it away with their super breath?

"There aren't that many of them, and even if they wear an environmental shield we could pierce it far easier than we could piece their skin. There's no way they could reliably avoid lead dust, I've been practicing with x-ionised knives, and a lot of human cities still have lead paint. They'd just die."

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Yeah, I think they did bring special protective suits to protect themselves from lead. It seems like a sensible precaution to take when you travel to a world where an element that can easily kill you exists in abundance.

Also, I don't think the buildings and cities filled with lead would be much of a problem for the Daxamites either. What's stopping them from just incinerating those from afar with their heat vision? It wouldn't be that difficult for them, since they're probably trained to recognize lead, and they can easily find it by using their X-Ray vision to look for all the places they can't see through.

 

[xSieg]

and then blow it away with their super breath

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16-Kryptonians don't have the super and freezing breath naturally IIRC. Though apparently Daxamites have preserved Torquasm-Vo, which means some of them could do it. Maybe? All other kryptonians shown were using Torquasm-Rao, which apparently has a different wiki entry. It feels like two names for the same thing, honestly.
Their whole schtick is that they're power-luddites who live under a red sun to be normal and primitive and only don their solar-suits so they can protect themselves from aliens and undesirables, though. I'm not sure they're all that good with precise user of their abilities.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the Daxamites just be able to see the lead dust with their microscopic vision, and then blow it away with their super breath?

Yeah, I think they did bring special protective suits to protect themselves from lead. It seems like a sensible precaution to take when you travel to a world where an element that can easily kill you exists in abundance.

Also, I don't think the buildings and cities filled with lead would be much of a problem for the Daxamites either. What's stopping them from just incinerating those from afar with their heat vision? It wouldn't be that difficult for them, since they're probably trained to recognize lead, and they can easily find it by using their X-Ray vision to look for all the places they can't see through.

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Several things.

They aren't used to their powers. Trying to use microscope vision when you aren't used to it canonically results in you frying what you're looking at. Or it could result in you being effectively blind. And while they're aware that they're vulnerable to lead, they don't necessarily know what it looks like under a microscope.

And they're in a ship near the edge of the system. They can fly in-system under their own power, but it would take a while and make them vulnerable to interception.

 

[Steelplaza]

I think the Kryptonian we have seen who was the absolute best with his powers was Nazi Superman, and he was really, really good. He had decades to practice, had gotten training in the exotic energy manipulation and mind training Kryptonian arts somewhere, a lot of motivation to get as powerful as possible. It shows how confident he was that he let them put a guy powered by kryptonite on the New Reichsmen; I'm sure he felt like he could deal with that guy with trivial effort.

The daxamites are on the complete other end of the spectrum, like comparing a guy who just put on a power ring for the first time with the Illustres. Or at least, we assume they are. It's possible that one of the crew is a "ringer", some daxamite that got special permission to spend decades training himself in use of yellow sun powers so that they have someone really dangerous to send out on missions to alien worlds. Or not! We won't know until it happens, but presumably they've got some card to play.

 

[boo600]

They did not.

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Ok, yeah, I misremembered by a country mile.

"I couldn't very well leave their country in turmoil."

"You did not have to create turmoil. Once you made your initial assessment, you should have realised that intervention would do more harm than good without the application of resources we are ill-disposed to provide in a location far from Reach space."

"They're late nineteenth century at most. It shouldn't require that much to-."

"I ran the social dynamics equations. Their society may not have technically been a theocracy, but it was strongly organised around their religious practices. And now that authority has gone. Violent crime will increase by between one hundred and eighty and two hundred and twenty percent, depending on precisely how well Lantern Coutara can take charge of the situation."

"And in the long term?"

He glares at me for a fraction of a second. "There are too many unknown variables to calculate with any accuracy." He heads towards the edge of the gantry and stands ramrod straight, hands behind his back. "This is a vast investment of time and effort which is unlikely to see any return within the foreseeable future. I do not want this repeated."


Sorry about that. Took me a bit to find it.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Ok, yeah, I misremembered by a country mile.

Sorry about that. Took me a bit to find it.

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Hey, I'm just glad it wasn't me this time.

 

[Mr Zoat]

26th July 2013
18:17 GMT

"Look." Donald raises his right forehoof in a warding gesture. "You can be attracted to whoever you're attracted to. No insults from me. But you will be giving up the right to call anyone else a furry as an insult."

Hawk Horse-Face undulates as he considers it. Then he twists his midsection so that the upper part of his body is facing me. "Hey Gray, you're banging that horse-chick, right?"

"I assure you, she's a fully mature hen."

"Yeah, I-." His eyes widen, expanding beyond the bounds of his eye sockets. "Wait, is the little purple one a kid? I thought the ponies were just short 'cause they're ponies!"

"You may stand at ease. Twilight is a young adult." Hawk Horse-Face collapses bonelessly to the floor in relief. "Alicorns undergo an additional period of growth after they ascend, regardless of age. She's started growing again and will probably end up about as tall as the others. The ponies are indeed short because they're ponies, though the local zebra are about the same size and I haven't seen any true horses. And her name is Twilight Sparkle."

Hawk Horse-Face floats back upright. "Thanks, dude."

"And for future reference, please don't use the term 'banging' to describe my relationship with Luna. I wouldn't use it to describe your father's relationship with your mother, or yours with your right hand."

Hawk Horse-Face opens his mouth to respond, then looks down to the part of his torso between his legs. "Do I even have a cock right now?"

Donald stares at him. "What, do you want us to check for you?"

I bow my head. "Not it."

"Not-!" Donald glares at me. "Damn it!"

"Nah, it's cool." Hawk Horse-Face bends double and reach down… "I got this." And predictably pulls a male chicken out from between his legs.

It clucks at him, then pecks him on the snout. He drops it, raising his hand to cover the wound. "Ow!"

Donald huffs. "At least his acting's on point."

"Ah." I watch the tail feathers disappear down the corridor. "His cock got away from him."

Donald smiles. "Wouldn't be the first time."

"You guys suck."

Donald snorts. "At least we don't peck."

A short distance away, Celestia… Giggles. She actually raises her right forehoof to cover her muzzle. Hawk Horse-Face twists in the air, sinuously floating over to her. "Do we entertain you, oh radiant one?"

"You do. It has been quite some time since my little ponies felt at ease enough in my presence to engage in open tomfoolery."

"Cockfoolery." / "Cockfoolery."

Donald and I look at each other for a moment, then look in opposite directions.

Alright, that was weak.

"Princess…" Raven Inkwell, Celestia's secretary, trots in, staring at the clipboard suspended in her magic. "Everyone's been-" She looks up, takes in the scene, then looks back at her notes. "-informed and…" She stops, and risks looking away from the clipboard again only to see that we're still here.

She blinks.

"Would you like me to cancel?"

Celestia looks at me, raising her eyebrows. I give my head a small shake.

"No, I don't think so. Gentlemen, are you ready?"

Donald and I nod, while Hawk Horse-Face gives her a manipulator-appendage up.

Celestia nods to Miss Inkwell, who nods in acknowledgement. "Yes, Princess. And… Your guests?"

"Grayven is the source of my inspiration. According to him, our sun and planet would have had a very different relationship before Discord interfered with them. And I so very rarely get to use my special talent for anything creative."

"And… Discord?"

Celestia looks at the transformed Hawk Horse-Face with a smile. "He is the only one would can tell me if I'm doing it right."

"Ah… Yes, Princess. This way."

Miss Inkwell trots along the palace corridor with the rest of us following on behind. Celestia takes the opportunity to sidle closer to 'Discord'.

"Are you truly interested in my former student?"

"I mean… She's cute, sure."

Miss Inkwell stumbles a step, the pony mastering herself to avoid staring in profound religious horror. I assume. I can't actually see her face from here.

"And the commute's not that bad. But, I don't know, she didn't seem to be picking up what I was putting down, you know? I mean, I get it, interspecies isn't for everyone-"

Miss Inkwell stumbles again, and I catch Celestia watching her out of the corner of her eye with a smirk on her lips.

"-but I don't wanna waste my time if she ain't into me. Or come off like a total creep 'cause I don't know pony body language. What kinda guy does she usually go for?"

Celestia opens her mouth slightly and then appears to think of something. She closes her mouth and looks mildly pensive. "I can't remember her ever showing any interest in any stallions."

Hawk Horse-Face throws his head back, his neck forming a 'U'. "Damn it!"

"Or any mares. Though given how long it took her to understand the value of simple friendship-"

I cough "Remedial." into my right forehoof.

"-I wouldn't assume that it's impossible for you to win her over."

I wing-shrug. "I suggest being blunt to the point of rudeness. Otherwise she's just going to fail to understand for an irritatingly long amount of time."

"That…" Celestia considers my statement for a moment, and then nods as we reach the courtyard, the gathered crowd silencing their conversations and turning to us. "May well be true."

"Huh. Dove?"

"If she's really that oblivious then, yeah. Just be prepared for her to say 'no'. Ooor have some sort of total freak out."

"Okay. Guess I know what I'm doing when we finish up here."

Celestia glances his way. "Perhaps you could send me a letter to let me know how it goes?"

Hawk Horse-Face looks confused. "A letter?"

I shake my head. "It's a pony thing, just go with it."

Celestia steps forwards to address the crowd. "Mares and gentlecolts, thank you for coming. Today begins a new era of celestial engineering. Thanks to Grayven, ponykind now has a new understanding of the relationships between celestial bodies. In order to promote a more harmonious and orderly cosmos, I am proud to announce that we will be transitioning to a heliocentric system."

Hawk Horse-Face nods. "Even something as silly as a pony-driven sun can get tiresome if you keep repeating it. It's about time for a change."

Another Discord appears, looking furious. Quick check? Many tails.

"Not if I have anything to say about it!"

 

[GigaVanguard]

Celestia steps forwards to address the crowd. "Mares and gentlecolts, thank you for coming. Today begins a new era of celestial engineering. Thanks to Grayven, ponykind now has a new understanding of the relationships between celestial bodies. In order to promote a more harmonious and orderly cosmos, I am proud to announce that we will be transitioning to a heliocentric system."

Hawk Horse-Face nods. "Even something as silly as a pony-driven sun can get tiresome if you keep repeating it. It's about time for a change."

Another Discord appears, looking furious. Quick check? Many tails.

"Not if I have anything to say about it!"

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If Galileo Galilei has one hater, that hater is Discord, apparently.

 

[Khettien]

If Galileo Galilei has one hater, that hater is Discord, apparently.

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If the rumors I've heard are remotely true, Galileo had a lot more than one hater. Apparently, the man was insufferable. Sadly, I can't provide references, so take that with a whole ocean of salt.

 

[Chojin Patriarch]

26th July 2013
18:17 GMT

"Look." Donald raises his right forehoof in a warding gesture. "You can be attracted to whoever you're attracted to. No insults from me. But you will be giving up the right to call anyone else a furry as an insult."

Hawk Horse-Face undulates as he considers it. Then he twists his midsection so that the upper part of his body is facing me. "Hey Gray, you're banging that horse-chick, right?"

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Ah, the drawback of showing interest in an Equestrian, as a normally humanoid being. Although it would be entirely, chaotically in character for him to have had that kind of taste. And the ponies at least can pass the Harkness Test.

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"I assure you, she's a fully mature hen."

"Yeah, I-." His eyes widen, expanding beyond the bounds of his eye sockets. "Wait, is the little purple one a kid? I thought the ponies were just short 'cause they're ponies!"

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Eh, she's just got some growing to do, both physically and mystically. And probably emotionally too.

"You may stand at ease. Twilight is a young adult." Hawk Horse-Face collapses bonelessly to the floor in relief. "Alicorns undergo an additional period of growth after they ascend, regardless of age. She's started growing again and will probably end up about as tall as the others. The ponies are indeed short because they're ponies, though the local zebra are about the same size and I haven't seen any true horses. And her name is Twilight Sparkle."

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Makes me wonder if the equine species simply evolved to that point and never advanced. Their intellect probably made it so they didn't have to develop longer legs or faster gallops to escape predators...

Hawk Horse-Face floats back upright. "Thanks, dude."

"And for future reference, please don't use the term 'banging' to describe my relationship with Luna. I wouldn't use it to describe your father's relationship with your mother, or yours with your right hand."

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Ha, nice one. Though I suspect he's at a bit of a loss in that department. Which arm is the crab's claw, again?

Hawk Horse-Face opens his mouth to respond, then looks down to the part of his torso between his legs. "Do I even have a cock right now?"

Donald stares at him. "What, do you want us to check for you?"

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Given the fluid nature of draconequus anatomy, I suspect it's a matter of wanting one, and specifying size and functionality.

I bow my head. "Not it."

"Not-!" Donald glares at me. "Damn it!"

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Hah! The renegade really does get manly friendships.

"Nah, it's cool." Hawk Horse-Face bends double and reach down… "I got this." And predictably pulls a male chicken out from between his legs.

It clucks at him, then pecks him on the snout. He drops it, raising his hand to cover the wound. "Ow!"

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...And I won't lie, I did not see that gag coming. He's really adapted well to his new powers.

Donald huffs. "At least his acting's on point."

"Ah." I watch the tail feathers disappear down the corridor. "His cock got away from him."

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Better not let it go too far, who knows what it'll get up to?

Donald smiles. "Wouldn't be the first time."

"You guys suck."

Donald snorts. "At least we don't peck."

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Man, what a comedy routine. They could take it on the road quite easily.

A short distance away, Celestia… Giggles. She actually raises her right forehoof to cover her muzzle. Hawk Horse-Face twists in the air, sinuously floating over to her. "Do we entertain you, oh radiant one?"

"You do. It has been quite some time since my little ponies felt at ease enough in my presence to engage in open tomfoolery."

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Well, that's because of the whole living goddess thing they've got going on towards her.

"Cockfoolery." / "Cockfoolery."

Donald and I look at each other for a moment, then look in opposite directions.

Alright, that was weak.

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They can't all be winners.

"Princess…" Raven Inkwell, Celestia's secretary, trots in, staring at the clipboard suspended in her magic. "Everyone's been-" She looks up, takes in the scene, then looks back at her notes. "-informed and…" She stops, and risks looking away from the clipboard again only to see that we're still here.

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It would make quite the foursome. Especially when only two of them vaguely resemble a 'normal' pony.

She blinks.

"Would you like me to cancel?"

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Very quick to recognise potential trouble, isn't she?

Celestia looks at me, raising her eyebrows. I give my head a small shake.

"No, I don't think so. Gentlemen, are you ready?"

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Oh? What's he got planned then? Something to lure out an errant Discord, perhaps?

Donald and I nod, while Hawk Horse-Face gives her a manipulator-appendage up.

Celestia nods to Miss Inkwell, who nods in acknowledgement. "Yes, Princess. And… Your guests?"

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At least Celestia's going along with it. And spread word beforehand, so it's bound to be spectacular.

"Grayven is the source of my inspiration. According to him, our sun and planet would have had a very different relationship before Discord interfered with them. And I so very rarely get to use my special talent for anything creative."

"And… Discord?"

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Oh-ho. Yes, I can't see him tolerating any dicking around with one of his finest pranks.

Celestia looks at the transformed Hawk Horse-Face with a smile. "He is the only one would can tell me if I'm doing it right."

"Ah… Yes, Princess. This way."

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...Boy, the Renegade has really been leaning on that gag, hasn't he?

Miss Inkwell trots along the palace corridor with the rest of us following on behind. Celestia takes the opportunity to sidle closer to 'Discord'.

"Are you truly interested in my former student?"

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Better her than Twilight's Father giving him a shovel speech. At least with her, you know she'd make it quick.

"I mean… She's cute, sure."

Miss Inkwell stumbles a step, the pony mastering herself to avoid staring in profound religious horror. I assume. I can't actually see her face from here.

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I wonder if she thinks Hank is actually Discord trying on a new look? I mean, it's something I wouldn't put past the old jackanape.

"And the commute's not that bad. But, I don't know, she didn't seem to be picking up what I was putting down, you know? I mean, I get it, interspecies isn't for everyone-"

Miss Inkwell stumbles again, and I catch Celestia watching her out of the corner of her eye with a smirk on her lips.

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Ah, Trollestia getting to come out or a little bit. I wonder if, back in the day, she aligned with the element of Laughter...

"-but I don't wanna waste my time if she ain't into me. Or come off like a total creep 'cause I don't know pony body language. What kinda guy does she usually go for?"

Celestia opens her mouth slightly and then appears to think of something. She closes her mouth and looks mildly pensive. "I can't remember her ever showing any interest in any stallions."

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To be fair, she doesn't run into that many who aren't a friend's relatives, already taken or too adversarial to consider.

Hawk Horse-Face throws his head back, his neck forming a 'U'. "Damn it!"

"Or any mares. Though given how long it took her to understand the value of simple friendship-"

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...That is honestly a good point. She's not 'not interested', she simply doesn't know anything about romance.

I cough "Remedial." into my right forehoof.

"-I wouldn't assume that it's impossible for you to win her over."

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Oh, boy, that would be quite the wacky relationship.

I wing-shrug. "I suggest being blunt to the point of rudeness. Otherwise she's just going to fail to understand for an irritatingly long amount of time."

"That…" Celestia considers my statement for a moment, and then nods as we reach the courtyard, the gathered crowd silencing their conversations and turning to us. "May well be true."

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Better than the typical harem anime lead's response of 'not picking anyone' because they're afraid of the rest killing him.

"Huh. Dove?"

"If she's really that oblivious then, yeah. Just be prepared for her to say 'no'. Ooor have some sort of total freak out."

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I suspect the freakout is more likely, probably involving some manner of 'Oh Celestia, I have no idea of what to do! To the library!' impulse.

"Okay. Guess I know what I'm doing when we finish up here."

Celestia glances his way. "Perhaps you could send me a letter to let me know how it goes?"

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I'm sure Twilight will be happy to share. or possibly overshare.

Hawk Horse-Face looks confused. "A letter?"

I shake my head. "It's a pony thing, just go with it."

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If nothing else, he can send it easily, with a little bit of magic to carry it on.

Celestia steps forwards to address the crowd. "Mares and gentlecolts, thank you for coming. Today begins a new era of celestial engineering. Thanks to Grayven, ponykind now has a new understanding of the relationships between celestial bodies. In order to promote a more harmonious and orderly cosmos, I am proud to announce that we will be transitioning to a heliocentric system."

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Wait, isn't the Wilson sun noticeably smaller than the planet itself? That seems a bit of a stumbling block. Oh, wait...

Hawk Horse-Face nods. "Even something as silly as a pony-driven sun can get tiresome if you keep repeating it. It's about time for a change."

Another Discord appears, looking furious. Quick check? Many tails.

"Not if I have anything to say about it!"

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Ah, reacting to an affront to his personal pride. Entirely in character.

Well, the mouse has taken the bait. Time to spring the trap. Which is not going to be easy, I suspect. And this Discord may be a little more aggressive than they were anticipating. Hopefully any bystanders are well outside the splash zone. And will have the sense to not stick around when the fur starts flying. And hopefully it won't take a jab of the Sword of the Fallen to stop him.

 

[Vanbers]

If the rumors I've heard are remotely true, Galileo had a lot more than one hater. Apparently, the man was insufferable. Sadly, I can't provide references, so take that with a whole ocean of salt.

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If I recall correctly, most of the reason for his imprisonment kind of boils down to the fact he was just that much of a dickhead.

 

[ForeverShogo]

Judging by what happened in canon, Twilight's "type" seems to be human men.

Or, to use a meme . . .

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[Rebu]

Hawk Horse-Face throws his head back, his neck forming a 'U'. "Damn it!"

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Wow. He's so chaotic he can break the kid show rules about swearing.

Also I guess opposites really do attract.

 

[Cuchulin]

If the rumors I've heard are remotely true, Galileo had a lot more than one hater. Apparently, the man was insufferable. Sadly, I can't provide references, so take that with a whole ocean of salt.

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Yeah, according to the Ring of Fire Novel series at least the real reason he got into trouble with the Pope? Is he accidentally or "accidentally" called his Holiness a simpleton.