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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Back Channels (part 18) New
1st August 2013
19:29 GMT


"Will I be meeting them?"

I wince inwardly as I continue scanning his gristly trophies of the kryptonian survivors he's killed. As far as I can tell, most of them were… Karsta Wor-Ul's colleagues. Who all left Krypton well before General Zod's coup attempt. Another couple I don't have records on. Someone who left Krypton well before isolationism, and just sort of wandered around not bothering anyone until… Some guy they'd never heard of had them killed?

"To avoid the appearance of impropriety, I think it would be best if you only spoke to them in the courtroom."

I didn't have any real illusions about Amalak's behaviour, but I'll admit… This is bringing it home. Oh, I don't know, he's probably had plenty of people killed in Vega's various power struggles. I'm probably feeling this strongly about it because Kal-El's been such a benefit to Earth and I can't help but default to thinking of other Kryptonians in the same way.

"No, not Zod and Ursa. The people you negotiated with to secure this trial."

"I'm not completely sure that's a good idea."

"They won't attend?"

"The government of Xudar hasn't actually agreed to host this yet. We might end up with a venue that doesn't allow an audience."

"The court system of my homeworld allowed parties with a vested interest to observe. It was actually compulsory in some cases."

I glance at him with a frown. "Oh? What was the logic there?"

"The intent was that people associated with a criminal, or who were on the edge of events but not directly implicated, could see what awaited with them if they joined in with future crimes."

"Huh. Not a terrible idea."

He watches me as I continue to pick through the debris of the life of someone he ended.

"I know it was irrational."

"Which part?"

"Blaming every kryptonian for the actions of a few. Particularly after Krypton exploded-. Why did that happen?"

"One… Faction in one of their civil wars tried blowing the planet up centuries ago, and while he was stopped, enough radiation got blasted into their core that it started a run away chain reaction in the planet's interior. It started slowly-."

"They did it to themselves?"

"It was more one guy and some cultists, but, yes? Why?"

"I didn't know. All spacefaring civilisations from that region of space know that Krypton exploded, but I haven't ever heard an actual explanation for it."

"I suppose it wouldn't be. There wouldn't be any way to recover the data, and it wouldn't have been widely-."

Realisation dawns. "Their clone war!"

"Ah, yes. I hadn't realised that you'd studied their history so much."

"Kryptonian history was an important part of my people's history, given how long they effectively ruled over us. Besides, the idea that they had a nuclear war because one deranged woman tried marrying her son to a clone of herself…" He chuckles quietly to himself.

"There was a bit more to it than that."

"Yes, yes. Do you know why they used whole body cloning? I admit that I'm not a biologist, but I've seen the bills for cloning replacement organs for my injured employees and it's not that expensive. They can't have been more than a generation from a breakthrough."

"Some cultures or species develop different areas of technology at different speeds. Just because certain breakthroughs come together in one society, that doesn't mean that the association will be there in another." I open another crate. "If I had to guess, their cloning technology might have been an outgrowth of their exo-womb research rather than their research into cellular regeneration. The people involved just didn't consider adding stem cells to a lattice because they only knew about whole body cloning, and no one ever looked into another approach because they had a technique that worked."

"Did they do that afterwards?"

"No, afterwards they switched to-" I pick up a framed image of… A kryptonian male and a younger Karsta Wor-UL. "-cybernetics."

Amalak peers over my shoulder. "Ah. Sub-Commander Karsta Wor-Ul. I hadn't realised that she had a Phantom Zone portal. Or the knowledge of how to make one."

"You don't get to be Sub-Commander of the Kryptonian Stellar Navy by being stupid."

"No, but kryptonians seldom had interests outside of their designated role. Or perhaps she had a database..? Oh, it doesn't matter. When you next see her, please tell her that I'm serious about ending my vendetta."

"Thank you." I close the crate. "I-."

"And…" He thinks for a moment. "Take that crate with you. It doesn't have any further value to me, and she might want it."

I send it to subspace, and stand up. "Okay, thank you, that's everything I-."

He's holding a kryptonian data crystal. "A bit petty of me, but given that you'd clearly been in contact with the woman for a while, I think we're even."

I extend a filament, and-. Ah. This doesn't include a copy of Kem-El's retrovirus, but it does have records on a rejuvenation treatment Kartsa Wor-Ul and… Ro-Kul, went through. Something went wrong, but the basic mechanism… Yes, I see, the clinic wasn't able to duplicate the virus properly. But I can, and I can fix the problems she's having.

"Thank you." I raise my right hand to my forehead. "That's exactly what I need."

1st August 2013
19:47 GMT


I look around at the burned corpses, and float over them towards the bar.

"Do I want to know?"

Karsta Wor-Ul looks up from pouring herself a drink. "Black Circle. I need money, and the local governments suddenly decided they care about piracy."

"Okay, well, I have some good news. And some.. news." I put the crate on the bar. "I believe this is… Yours. Commodore Amalak and I have come to terms, so the bounties on kryptonians are getting rescinded. You can return to Earth if you like, or… Not."

She regards me suspiciously. "How?"

"We're giving him General Dru-Zod and Ursa. Since they're the ones he actually wants, that's it as far as he's concerned. Oh, and… I've learned enough from his records that I can fix your health issues, which I'm happy to do."

She shrugs. "And what do you get out of it?"

"Well, he thinks that you're my kryptonian contact, rather than…" She nods. "And if you've finished this contract, I'd quite like to give you a job."

She looks mildly puzzled. "Who do you want dead that you can't just kill yourself?"

"Have you heard of the Reach?"
 
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1st August 2013
19:47 GMT


I look around at the burned corpses, and float over them towards the bar.

"Do I want to know?"

Karsta Wor-Ul looks up from pouring herself a drink. "Black Circle. I need money, and the local governments suddenly decided they care about piracy."

"Okay, well, I have some good news. And some.. news." I put the crate on the bar. "I believe this is… Yours. Commodore Amalak and I have come to terms, so the bounties on kryptonians are getting rescinded. You can return to Earth if you like, or… Not."

Her regards me suspiciously. "How?"

"We're giving him General Dru-Zod and Ursa. Since they're the ones he actually wants, that's it as far as he's concerned. Oh, and… I've learned enough from his records that I can fix your health issues, which I'm happy to do."

She shrugs. "And what do you get out of it?"

"Well, he thinks that you're my kryptonian contact, rather than…" She nods. "And if you've finished this contract, I'd quite like to give you a job."

She looks mildly puzzled. "Who do you want dead that you can't just kill yourself?"

"Have you heard of the Reach?"
I wasn't expecting to see her again in the Paragon timeline. Hopefully Karsta will eventually find a measure of peace that the Renegade version did.
 
1st August 2013
19:29 GMT


"Will I be meeting them?"

I wince inwardly as I continue scanning his gristly trophies of the kryptonian survivors he's killed. As far as I can tell, most of them were… Karsta Wor-Ul's colleagues. Who all left Krypton well before General Zod's coup attempt. Another couple I don't have records on. Someone who left Krypton well before isolationism, and just sort of wandered around not bothering anyone until… Some guy they'd never heard of had them killed?
He's been thorough, I see. Tracking down any and all Kryptonians he could find out of pure vengeance. He would have made a great Red Lantern, I suspect. Fortunately, that's probably never going to happen. Ideally by him letting go of that anger.

"To avoid the appearance of impropriety, I think it would be best if you only spoke to them in the courtroom."

I didn't have any real illusions about Amalak's behaviour, but I'll admit… This is bringing it home. Oh, I don't know, he's probably had plenty of people killed in Vega's various power struggles. I'm probably feeling this strongly about it because Kal-El's been such a benefit to Earth and I can't help but default to thinking of other Kryptonians in the same way.
Which would be a mistake, as Kryptonian society was nothing like Earth's. At least by the end of their race, anyway. I'm sure they had periods similar to Earth's history. Early cities, rises and falls of empires...

"No, not Zod and Ursa. The people you negotiated with to secure this trial."

"I'm not completely sure that's a good idea."
Especially if he learns about their family histories. The house of El may not have been military, but they played huge parts in Krypton's history, after all...

"They won't attend?"

"The government of Xudar hasn't actually agreed to host this yet. We might end up with a venue that doesn't allow an audience."
OL really should get that sorted out pronto, for sure. Soon as he's done here, ideally.

"The court system of my homeworld allowed parties with a vested interest to observe. It was actually compulsory in some cases."

I glance at him with a frown. "Oh? What was the logic there?"
Deterrent, perhaps? Or maybe allowing the defendants to see the faces of those they impacted...

"The intent was that people associated with a criminal, or who were on the edge of events but not directly implicated, could see what awaited with them if they joined in with future crimes."

"Huh. Not a terrible idea."
Though tricky to work out.

He watches me as I continue to pick through the debris of the life of someone he ended.

"I know it was irrational."
I suppose now that the anger is faded, he's feeling regrets. The detritus of many lives ended by his vendetta...

"Which part?"

"Blaming every kryptonian for the actions of a few. Particularly after Krypton exploded-. Why did that happen?"
At least he came to a good conclusion about it.

"One… Faction in one of their civil wars tried blowing the planet up centuries ago, and while he was stopped, enough radiation got blasted into their core that it started a run away chain reaction in the planet's interior. It started slowly-."

"They did it to themselves?"
Amazing how one simple thing can cause extinction for a whole world.

"It was more one guy and some cultists, but, yes? Why?"

"I didn't know. All spacefaring civilisations from that region of space know that Krypton exploded, but I haven't ever heard an actual explanation for it."
I imagine the blast is still being seen in the skies of some worlds at this point. A tiny glimmer of a star flaring then disappearing...

"I suppose it wouldn't be. There wouldn't be any way to recover the data, and it wouldn't have been widely-."

Realisation dawns. "Their clone war!"
No relation to the Star Wars one, mind. 😏 But ultimately responsible for their stigma against mass cloning.

"Ah, yes. I hadn't realised that you'd studied their history so much."

"Kryptonian history was an important part of my people's history, given how long they effectively ruled over us. Besides, the idea that they had a nuclear war because one deranged woman tried marrying her son to a clone of herself…" He chuckles quietly to himself.
...I don't even know what to call that complex. The ultimate in controlling parents.

"There was a bit more to it than that."

"Yes, yes. Do you know why they used whole body cloning? I admit that I'm not a biologist, but I've seen the bills for cloning replacement organs for my injured employees and it's not that expensive. They can't have been more than a generation from a breakthrough."
Definitely a matter of possibilities.

"Some cultures or species develop different areas of technology at different speeds. Just because certain breakthroughs come together in one society, that doesn't mean that the association will be there in another." I open another crate. "If I had to guess, their cloning technology might have been an outgrowth of their exo-womb research rather than their research into cellular regeneration. The people involved just didn't consider adding stem cells to a lattice because they only knew about whole body cloning, and no one ever looked into another approach because they had a technique that worked."
I suppose if it's easy to produce tailored individuals through rapid-growth systems, mass-production is not that much harder.

"Did they do that afterwards?"

"No, afterwards they switched to-" I pick up a framed image of… A kryptonian male and a younger Karsta Wor-UL. "-cybernetics."
Her father, perhaps? Or a mentor in the navy... Poignant.

Amalak peers over my shoulder. "Ah. Sub-Commander Karsta Wor-Ul. I hadn't realised that she had a Phantom Zone portal. Or the knowledge of how to make one."

"You don't get to be Sub-Commander of the Kryptonian Stellar Navy by being stupid."
Heh, clever idea. Direct Amalak's attention her way, and that obfuscates the Els.

"No, but kryptonians seldom had interests outside of their designated role. Or perhaps she had a database..? Oh, it doesn't matter. When you next see her, please tell her that I'm serious about ending my vendetta."

"Thank you." I close the crate. "I-."
I'm sure she'll be happy to hear that. She spent years being hunted, if I remember right.

"And…" He thinks for a moment. "Take that crate with you. It doesn't have any further value to me, and she might want it."

I send it to subspace, and stand up. "Okay, thank you, that's everything I-."
Gracious, but with his vendetta ending, I'm sure its value as motivation is much lessened.

He's holding a kryptonian data crystal. "A bit petty of me, but given that you'd clearly been in contact with the woman for a while, I think we're even."

I extend a filament, and-. Ah. This doesn't include a copy of Kem-El's retrovirus, but it does have records on a rejuvenation treatment Kartsa Wor-Ul and… Ro-Kul, went through. Something went wrong, but the basic mechanism… Yes, I see, the clinic wasn't able to duplicate the virus properly. But I can, and I can fix the problems she's having.
Useful, if only as a method for deploying the modifications for daxamites.

"Thank you." I raise my right hand to my forehead. "That's exactly what I need."

1st August 2013
19:47 GMT


I look around at the burned corpses, and float over them towards the bar.
Well, someone's been keeping busy.

"Do I want to know?"

Karsta Wor-Ul looks up from pouring herself a drink. "Black Circle. I need money, and the local governments suddenly decided they care about piracy."
Ah. Mercenary work. an easy job for an empowered Kryptonian. Though she probably takes efforts to hide her powers anyway with power armour and energy weapons.

"Okay, well, I have some good news. And some.. news." I put the crate on the bar. "I believe this is… Yours. Commodore Amalak and I have come to terms, so the bounties on kryptonians are getting rescinded. You can return to Earth if you like, or… Not."

She regards me suspiciously. "How?"
Yeah, that would sound like quite the feat to fresh ears, I expect.

"We're giving him General Dru-Zod and Ursa. Since they're the ones he actually wants, that's it as far as he's concerned. Oh, and… I've learned enough from his records that I can fix your health issues, which I'm happy to do."

She shrugs. "And what do you get out of it?"
I'm guessing it's not a big matter for her, having lived as she has for so long.

"Well, he thinks that you're my kryptonian contact, rather than…" She nods. "And if you've finished this contract, I'd quite like to give you a job."

She looks mildly puzzled. "Who do you want dead that you can't just kill yourself?"

"Have you heard of the Reach?"
Oh-ho? Planning to have Maltus bring back the Kryptonian race? No, wait, that required a lot of effort in the Renegade timeline. This is probably an offer of a command posting.

Nice of OL to reach out to her, especially after Clark fouled up his approach towards her. While Kryptonian technology won't be a game-changer in the war, Maltusians having better things, perhaps her experience will find some use in their navy. And after the war (or at least a few decades down the line,) who knows what may happen?
 
Nice of OL to reach out to her, especially after Clark fouled up his approach towards her. While Kryptonian technology won't be a game-changer in the war, Maltusians having better things, perhaps her experience will find some use in their navy. And after the war (or at least a few decades down the line,) who knows what may happen?
If nothing else +1 Kryptonian warrior is always a useful asset.
 
I imagine the blast is still being seen in the skies of some worlds at this point. A tiny glimmer of a star flaring then disappearing...
Yes, and in seventy or eighty years when the light reaches the closest inhabited world, their best couple of observatories will see a tiny green smudge for a fraction of a second.
...I don't even know what to call that complex. The ultimate in controlling parents.
A devouring mother. His father wasn't mentioned.
Her father, perhaps? Or a mentor in the navy... Poignant.
Husband.
I'm still waiting for that Citadelian hinted to have become a Red Lantern to blindside POL.
One joined the Yellow Lantern Corps. Is that the fellow you're thinking of? They met when the yellow finr Batman's using got handed over.
 
Orange Lantern fixed their immune system issue.

Orange Lantern introduced them to the dryad and poison ivy.

Orange Lantern provided them with alien biotechnology.
He didn't fix their immune system. They figured out that they can break their own skin and give themselves vaccines.

The dryad and Ivy went there by themselves.

The Sheeda provided them with biotechnology, and they're not even using it.
 
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