With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[lancelot]

It is a cavern, because I can see the rock pillars which are supporting the rock and soil above, but I've got no idea how something like that could form naturally and it doesn't look artificial. There are more glowing crystals to provide illumination, though it's a little hard to tell how big things are without a reference. Closer, it looks like… This is part of a city? Built into the side of a gigantic.. stalagmite..?

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Its been more than a few years but this sounds like the capital city of the Drow, Menzoberranzan. From what we've seen they certainly behave like Drow.

Hopefully he quickly understands that and we can get on with it, instead of dragging this out. Disable the local guards, brand whoever seems to be the leader, ask some questions, get some answers. Then decide to do enough house cleaning for these likely drow to stop fucking about, before finding out how to get back to where he came from.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Is this HOMM 5 dungeon of all things? How? Why? Unless there is another setting with underground big eared slaver elfs, stalacmite cities with pink cristalls and enslaved-nipple-pierced-muzzled minotaurs without loincloths.

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Oh, well done! Welcome to Ashan, everyone. Sorry that I missed this earlier.

 

[Duke Long]

"Mauler." It reminds me a little of the Horned Demon from Heroes of Might and Magic five. Without slowing further Adom moves his right hand to its jaw and twists, snapping its neck. He then drops it into the mists below us. "Minor Demons in the service of Aym. It heals any wound to its flesh almost instantly. Be careful not to rip them in half or you would have two of them to fight."

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The plurality seems inconsistent here.
'Demon'?
'it'?
Or else some of the singular pronouns should be pluralised?

I was looking for mentions of Heroes of Might and Magic, and this excerpt gave me the amusing image of Oh El or Mazikeen seeing a Horned Demon and saying it reminds them a little of a mauler demon.

Actually come to think of it, this whole thing could be another illusion mindfuck. Oh El is into Heroes of Might and Magic V, so whatever magical thing is going on here plucked that from him and is fabricating the world he wants to see. For some unknown reason, and somehow bypassing his mental and magical defences (I should hope he has a telepathic baffle on after what happened last episode). Not placing a lot of probability on this, just felt I should mention the possibility since it would neatly explain the apparent incongruity.

 

[Mr Zoat]

The plurality seems inconsistent here.
'Demon'?
'it'?
Or else some of the singular pronouns should be pluralised?

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Thank you, corrected.

 

[AverusBlack]

Provide a quote from the story where that happened, otherwise everyone will just think that you're making shit up.

And why exactly would a ring charge be a problem for him?

It's not like every comic featuring a Lantern has them run out of energy in every story.

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He thinks that Paul failing to create a ring in the scene where he tries to dig around in the Honden in an attempt to and ends up with Larfleezes original ring instead is the same scene as when he goes into the honden to recharge, which IIRC he did for the first time during the anti-life because he was in an afterlife. I think it was the aztec one. He doesn't have his lantern so he just kind of fucks off into the Honden for a moment and looks for structures that resemble personal lanterns, or maybe it was the central battery, I'm a bit fuzzy.

 

[PDV]

Dark elves too, hence the name svartalfheim "dark elf home" as opposed to alfheim "elf home"

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Those who know what they're talking about agree that "svartalf" meant dwarf, and also was probably only used as a word at all in the Christian era. And we know nothing - "less than nothing" is defensible - about alfheim and the alfar.

But then, that's never stopped anyone before. The whole notion of Nine Realms has literally no textual or cultural evidence in its support, either.

Is this HOMM 5 dungeon of all things? How? Why? Unless there is another setting with underground big eared slaver elfs, stalacmite cities with pink cristalls and enslaved-nipple-pierced-muzzled minotaurs without loincloths.

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My guess was Morgana's evil fae paralell Earth that the Renegade's already seen, but that's probably better.

 

[AverusBlack]

Those who know what they're talking about agree that "svartalf" meant dwarf, and also was probably only used as a word at all in the Christian era. And we know nothing - "less than nothing" is defensible - about alfheim and the alfar.

But then, that's never stopped anyone before. The whole notion of Nine Realms has literally no textual or cultural evidence in its support, either.

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A shitton of what we know about Norse Mythology is from the Elder Edda, its hard to find solid archaeological sources from vikings. More the 'hit it until the red water comes out' types than the 'lets make lasting record for people to find several hundred years later' types.

 

[thebishop8]

Does it break the rules if I complain about Kier Starmer making it impossible for me to view that image?

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It's an image of 3 panels from a comic showing Zor getting trapped by his own paralysis spell, like Paul said he did.

Hey, this is QQ. I ain't judging.

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Apparently that's what Gemworld decided to call its alicorns.

I guess the possibility that the portal led to Gemworld wasn't as unlikely as I thought it was, unless Paul isn't actually in HoMM and it's some sort of illusion.

 

[Silverias]

Those who know what they're talking about agree that "svartalf" meant dwarf, and also was probably only used as a word at all in the Christian era. And we know nothing - "less than nothing" is defensible - about alfheim and the alfar.

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This is 100% true.

Svartalf still means "Black Elf".

 

[Sordid Snake]

Those who know what they're talking about agree that "svartalf" meant dwarf, and also was probably only used as a word at all in the Christian era. And we know nothing - "less than nothing" is defensible - about alfheim and the alfar.

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I would be very unsurprised if "alf" was a name for a CLASS of beings and not a GROUP of beings: Think "svart" similar to "unseelie" and "alf" similar to "fey". I have read theories that the "alfar" originally ment something closer to an ancestor spirit. Then "svartalf" could mean something in the vicinity of "the unsanctified dead" (unsanctified because they were pre-Christian)

There is also the interesting "coincidence" that one of the translations for the english "elf", is "tomte" the definite form of which, "tomten" is also the definite form of plot (of land): "Tomten är på tomten" translates to "The brownie is on the plot", suggesting a bit of semantic confusion between the being and where it lives. Compare with the brownie and domovoi.