With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Mr Zoat · 2026-10-27T11:40:33+0000

Steelplaza said:
It's been literal years, but I think this is a lie, right? I definitely recall a Weaponeer being involved. Or did she just build the power battery? Shit, I really am having trouble remembering. There was a claim that the ring was "minimum capability" and not a very sophisticated model.

He means 'the person I contacted in order to get it', not that Sinestro literally made it himself.

CrazyNoVa · 2026-10-27T16:01:09+0000

Z000 said:
if he beat the guy up and steal his yellow ring, he could then use it to help fight Yellow-Bat god of prep

Either that, or get a really good precog on your side.

Prep time doesn't work on a guy who can see the future, because their power is basically prep time on crack.

Ngamer11 said:
That should say 'an'.

I never considered the possibility of Sinestro trying to make his followers more like Batman. That'd be terrifying to think about.

You joke, but in the comics, Sinestro did admit that Batman would make a wonderful yellow lantern, so a yellow lantern Batman just might be what Sinestro would consider to be a model yellow lantern for his corps (after himself, of course).

Neruz · 2026-10-27T16:26:32+0000

CrazyNoVa said:
You joke, but in the comics, Sinestro did admit that Batman would make a wonderful yellow lantern, so a yellow lantern Batman just might be what Sinestro would consider to be a model yellow lantern for his corps (after himself, of course).

IIRC in the comics there has a few times that Batman got a yellow ring, and it actually goes poorly because Batman's willpower is by far his strongest feature.

For example; in Forever Evil #4, Batman used a yellow ring out of desperation, struggled to form solid constructs, and ultimately discarded it, noting it is "not my style".

Paul had to literally alter Batman's brain to make him compatible with the yellow ring, after all.

Jankl · 2026-10-27T16:52:09+0000

Neruz said:
Paul had to literally alter Batman's brain to make him compatible with the yellow ring, after all.

Sure but in this story it was noted that Batman used to be compatible before his change in mindset. Paul altering his brain was just to speed up the process of taking up that old mindset again.

CrazyNoVa · 2026-10-27T17:51:23+0000

Neruz said:
IIRC in the comics there has a few times that Batman got a yellow ring, and it actually goes poorly because Batman's willpower is by far his strongest feature.

For example; in Forever Evil #4, Batman used a yellow ring out of desperation, struggled to form solid constructs, and ultimately discarded it, noting it is "not my style".

Paul had to literally alter Batman's brain to make him compatible with the yellow ring, after all.

That's not what happened in Forever Evil. Batman tried to fight Power Ring and lost, and Sinestro had to save him. After this, in that same story, Sinestro then told Batman that if he ever learned how to use the yellow ring, he would make a wonderful yellow lantern.

Neruz · 2026-10-27T18:18:38+0000

CrazyNoVa said:
That's not what happened in Forever Evil. Batmam tried to fight Power Ring and lost, and Sinestro had to save him. After this, in that same story, Sinestro then told Batman that if he ever learned to use the yellow ring, he would make a wonderful yellow lantern.

Huh, must have got my storylines mixed up.

Mr Zoat · 2026-10-27T18:36:39+0000

The first time a yellow ring finds its way to Batman, it rejects him due to sensing green energy in his body. Otherwise he was a straight-up superior choice to Jonathan Crane.

NightmareWarden · 2026-10-27T22:02:47+0000

Mr Zoat said:
"How is the new guy worse than Mongul?"

"Mongul was violent, prideful, vain and callous. But he had ambitions to rule more than one world, and to do that he needed skilled labourers, fighters, scientists… All the parts of a complex civilisation. The Arkymandryte decreed that we have developed our civilisation contrary to the will of the gods. His fanatical followers targetted the most educated first, aiming to destroy all knowledge that has been earned since the death of our last prophet. By his command, we have torn our civilisation down and flagellated ourselves for our moral failings in not doing so sooner."

(skip)

"I made a better harness for my family's farm animals, to make it easier for them to plough the soil. Such a thing did not exist in the Godly Days, and so I was punished."

Narran, the alien from Mongul's world, is being played here. Paul gave his soul a quick look to determine if he is an avaricious sort, but he didn't do a deep dive. I think Paul's wrapped up in a Batman plot. He MIGHT not be the target. But look at the scenario here on Debstam Four with its new warlord.

That's Paul-bait.

It's possible this detail, the world we are going to, is pulled from the comics. But look at where the biggest source of info came from. I smell something.

BR549 · 2026-10-28T04:29:59+0000

NightmareWarden said:
It's possible this detail, the world we are going to, is pulled from the comics.

It is. "They overthrew Mongul, and that is widely considered a bad move." was a comics plot.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Oh, yes, that would be awkward. 'She's from... Canada.'

"But isn't she a little-"

"Marvel Canada."

"Ah."

Mr Zoat · 2026-10-28T06:17:58+0000

16th October 2013
17:11 G.M.T.

Jordan appears next to us, frowning.

"Problem?"

"Yeah." I'm mildly pleased to see him armour up as he nods. "I can't get a hold of the local Sector Lanterns. Checked out the Sector House on the way here, nothing out of the ordinary."

I scan the planet below us, supposedly the homeworld of Lantern Gaart. No obvious problems that would call for Lantern intervention, and… There's the white-flag-with-green-sigil flag marking his family home.

"Is the protocol to contact his family?"

"I… Look, I wanted to go after Sinestro without Salaak looking over my shoulder, but if two Sector Lanterns are out of contact-."

I raise my hands. "You're right. You're right. Call it in."

He nods, and raises his right hand to his face. "Honor Guard Lantern Hal Jordan to Lantern Salaak."

I smile as he omits Salaak's full title.

"I'm in Sector Two Eight One One and the Sector Lanterns aren't responding."

No face appears…

"Problem?"

"Sure looks like it." He stares at his ring like it's personally betrayed him, then turns to me. "Not that I can do maintenance on these things any more than Batman can. Could be overdue for its million year service."

Jade's face appears over my ring.

"I just got off the comms to Lantern Gaart's wife. He hasn't been home in a month."

Jordan nods. "That's not-. Necessarily unusual, but I am getting a little more worried. She say what he was doing?"

"His last message had him in the Cygnus system. Which is-."

Jordan's already turning away. "Where the parademon training world is. If they're gotten in over their heads…"

I grab Jade's ship with a construct and plot the course. "Let's go."

Space bends, and with a little finessing I manage to synchronise my warp corridor with Jordan's. "Do the Apokoliptians often cause them trouble?"

"No. Never. They keep an eye out, but all they really do is kill each other. They don't even give them ships."

"Anything else going on in this Sector?"

"No, it's been pretty peaceful since-"

We drop out of warp and that's a lot of ships!

"-Mongul left. Who-?"

"Ships are broadcasting Dread Horde identification codes."

"Mongul." Ships on the outer part of the formation begin pulling away from their position and heading towards us. "What are they doing?"

I generate railgun constructs and load crumbler rounds. Those worked well enough last time I fought Mongul's ships. I also let go of Jade's ship, and I see her pilot it away for a moment before she engages the stealth system.

"Scans are inconclusive. Either mining or testing their ground strike capacity."

I see Jordan's hands clench. "Look on the bright side. If he was dead, his ring's seeker protocol would have directed it to a new bearer."

"Yeah, but everyone who fights us knows that. You'd be surprised what you can live through."

"Alright, other bright side. I'm not seeing Sinestro."

"That's more of a downside. Your girlfriend gunna be okay?"

"This isn't her first fleet engagement. And space is a thaumically isolated environment. If she dies here, it shouldn't be that hard to transfer her soul into a new body."

"Right, I forgot who I was talking to, there." He looks across the void towards the largest starship. Dreadnought class, but not Warworld itself. "This is Honor Guard Lantern Harold Jordan to whoever's in command of the Dread Horde fleet. Leave this system immediately, or be destroyed."

"This is Mongul the Second. Do not dare disappoint me."

Jordan looks at me, and I shrug. "Maybe he really wants to be destroyed?"

Alert! / Warning.

I transition a mile left, and Jordan forms a jetpack construct and flings himself across local space just as a spatial charge goes off behind us!

Right, was that a teleport or a spatial warp-? Teleport, okay, and jam the sensors, track the incoming… Corvette squadron… Yes, they're coming in without any evasive manoeuvring at all. Scan, empathic vision… Yes, they're not using sensor baffling or other stealth technology. Target and fire.

Teleport attempt jammer.

A… Long way away from me, another charge goes off. Too far from me to do anything-. Another goes off, and another-.

Ring, scan for residue?

None found.

Wait, none? There should be-.

I release a hydra head Construct Lantern, and send it off towards the closest blast region. Then I take a moment to observe my shots hit the corvette squadron. The first corvette loses its frontal shield from the first hit and then takes the second to its hull. The kinetic force makes it look like the ship explodes, the metal undulating and bursting in a wave away from the initial impact site.

The other four ships in the squadron-. One tries to peel off, aiming to take a more evasive course. At this range my shots will miss if they vary their approach even slightly, so it's a sound tactic-.

The other three ships shoot them, rapidly draining their shield and then battering their hull.

Ah. Mongul II's one of those commanders.

Teleport attempt jammed. Teleport attempt jammed. Alert!

I transition closer as another spatial charge goes off, and I spot the telltale ripple in the starts around me that indicate they used a spatial warping corridor to throw it at me. Optical scan of the capital ship-

Alert!

Transition left, teleport jammer, spatial stabiliser.

-shows that it has a frontal spatial charge launcher. Not what I'd expect from someone like Mongul, who was reputedly as brave as he was murderous, but alright. I-.

I wince as the hydra head returns to my ring, confirming my suspicion.

"Jordan, the spatial charges nullify constructs."

Darko · 2026-10-28T06:27:06+0000

Mr Zoat said:
I just got off the comms to Lantern Gaart's wife. He hasn't been home in a month."

Jordan nods. "That's not-. Necessarily unusual, but I am getting a little more worried. She say what he was doing?"

"His last message had him in the Cygnus system. Which is-.

Jade's second sentence should be in orange.

Mr Zoat said:
also let go of Jade's ships, and I

"ship"

Mr Zoat said:
I see Jordan's hands clench. "Look on the bright side. If he was dead, his ring's seeker protocol would have directed it to a new bearer."

"Yeah, but everyone who fights us knows that. You'd be surprised what you can live through

Not to mention the possibility that it was destroyed.

Mr Zoat said:
shots will miss it they vary their approach even

"miss if they"

Mr Zoat · 2026-10-28T06:33:16+0000

Darko said:
Jade's second sentence should be in orange.
"ship"
"miss if they"

Thank you, corrected.

NameOrdane · 2026-10-28T06:33:53+0000

Mr Zoat said:
in the starts around me

Stars

Chojin Patriarch · 2026-10-28T06:57:35+0000

Mr Zoat said:
16th October 2013
17:11 G.M.T.

Jordan appears next to us, frowning.

"Problem?"

"Yeah." I'm mildly pleased to see him armour up as he nods. "I can't get a hold of the local Sector Lanterns. Checked out the Sector House on the way here, nothing out of the ordinary."

That's concerning. Sector Lanterns usually don't drop out of contact except under very rare circumstances. Could be they're somewhere distant, but Jordan would certainly try to contact them via Ring. And if that failed...

I scan the planet below us, supposedly the homeworld of Lantern Gaart. No obvious problems that would call for Lantern intervention, and… There's the white-flag-with-green-sigil flag marking his family home.

"Is the protocol to contact his family?"

If nothing else, they should be aware of the last time they were seen locally.

"I… Look, I wanted to go after Sinestro without Salaak looking over my shoulder, but if two Sector Lanterns are out of contact-."

I raise my hands. "You're right. You're right. Call it in."

That's the sort of thing that gets additional Honor Guard deployed. Especially if said Sector lanterns haven't been logged as slain.

He nods, and raises his right hand to his face. "Honor Guard Lantern Hal Jordan to Lantern Salaak."

I smile as he omits Salaak's full title.

This is a potential emergency situation, after all. And Hal probably enjoys messing with him.

"I'm in Sector Two Eight One One and the Sector Lanterns aren't responding."

No face appears…

...Did the message at least go through? If he didn't make contact at all, that suggests a deeper issue in the region.

"Problem?"

"Sure looks like it." He stares at his ring like it's personally betrayed him, then turns to me. "Not that I can do maintenance on these things any more than Batman can. Could be overdue for its million year service."

Trying to be optimistic won't help, Hal. This is bad.

Jade's face appears over my ring.

"I just got off the comms to Lantern Gaart's wife. He hasn't been home in a month."

And no-one noticed their absence at all? Salaak would take note of a sudden cessation of incoming reports, at the least.

Jordan nods. "That's not-. Necessarily unusual, but I am getting a little more worried. She say what he was doing?"

"His last message had him in the Cygnus system. Which is-."

Home of Debstam IV, Mongul's homeworld. I'd say they captured the Lanterns somehow and prevented their Rings from going into emergency mode.

Jordan's already turning away. "Where the parademon training world is. If they're gotten in over their heads…"

I grab Jade's ship with a construct and plot the course. "Let's go."

That would be Cygnus 4019. Aka 'Salvation', it apparently also served as Checkmate's off-world prison. I think we just found out where Batman's alien OMACs are coming from...

Space bends, and with a little finessing I manage to synchronise my warp corridor with Jordan's. "Do the Apokoliptians often cause them trouble?"

"No. Never. They keep an eye out, but all they really do is kill each other. They don't even give them ships."

Good neighbours, or as close as Apokolips gets...

"Anything else going on in this Sector?"

"No, it's been pretty peaceful since-"

Well, looks like it's not so peaceful now.

We drop out of warp and that's a lot of ships!

"-Mongul left. Who-?"

"Ships are broadcasting Dread Horde identification codes."

Mongul's army. Looks liek they're still operating without him, or someone has taken up his mantle.

"Mongul." Ships on the outer part of the formation begin pulling away from their position and heading towards us. "What are they doing?"

I generate railgun constructs and load crumbler rounds. Those worked well enough last time I fought Mongul's ships. I also let go of Jade's ship, and I see her pilot it away for a moment before she engages the stealth system.

Good, she's likely to become collateral damage if she sticks close to the Lanterns when combat breaks out. This way she can sneak in and maybe raid an outlying ship for intel.

"Scans are inconclusive. Either mining or testing their ground strike capacity."

I see Jordan's hands clench. "Look on the bright side. If he was dead, his ring's seeker protocol would have directed it to a new bearer."

But he and his partner are likely being held captive by these folks, if Narrative simplicity applies.

"Yeah, but everyone who fights us knows that. You'd be surprised what you can live through."

"Alright, other bright side. I'm not seeing Sinestro."

Any sign of Yellow Rings, though? That's a big concern too.

"That's more of a downside. Your girlfriend gunna be okay?"

"This isn't her first fleet engagement. And space is a thaumically isolated environment. If she dies here, it shouldn't be that hard to transfer her soul into a new body."

Still not reassuring.

"Right, I forgot who I was talking to, there." He looks across the void towards the largest starship. Dreadnought class, but not Warworld itself. "This is Honor Guard Lantern Harold Jordan to whoever's in command of the Dread Horde fleet. Leave this system immediately, or be destroyed."

And out come the sigil beacons. All sirens blazing.

"This is Mongul the Second. Do not dare disappoint me."

Jordan looks at me, and I shrug. "Maybe he really wants to be destroyed?"

Ah, the son of Mongul. And a possible Yellow Lantern, given his comics history.

Alert! / Warning.

I transition a mile left, and Jordan forms a jetpack construct and flings himself across local space just as a spatial charge goes off behind us!

Not the most efficient method, but if it works for him, it works.

Right, was that a teleport or a spatial warp-? Teleport, okay, and jam the sensors, track the incoming… Corvette squadron… Yes, they're coming in without any evasive manoeuvring at all. Scan, empathic vision… Yes, they're not using sensor baffling or other stealth technology. Target and fire.

Overconfident, or they have defences sufficient to protect them from Lanterns.

Teleport attempt jammer.

A… Long way away from me, another charge goes off. Too far from me to do anything-. Another goes off, and another-.

...That seems suspicious. IF they can teleport munitions, why scatter them so badly? Either their targetting is really bad, or it's really good and they're doing that on purpose.

Ring, scan for residue?

None found.

Wait, none? There should be-.

Concerning. Something baffling the Ring sensors?

I release a hydra head Construct Lantern, and send it off towards the closest blast region. Then I take a moment to observe my shots hit the corvette squadron. The first corvette loses its frontal shield from the first hit and then takes the second to its hull. The kinetic force makes it look like the ship explodes, the metal undulating and bursting in a wave away from the initial impact site.

At least their defences aren't up to OL's assault. Unless this was a stalking horse and he fell into a trap.

The other four ships in the squadron-. One tries to peel off, aiming to take a more evasive course. At this range my shots will miss it they vary their approach even slightly, so it's a sound tactic-.

The other three ships shoot them, rapidly draining their shield and then battering their hull.

Hmm... Cocky or foolish. Hard to tell with these aggressive horde types.

Ah. Mongul II's one of those commanders.

Teleport attempt jammed. Teleport attempt jammed. Alert!

...Okay, simply more terrified of their commander than they are OL.

I transition closer as another spatial charge goes off, and I spot the telltale ripple in the stars around me that indicate they used a spatial warping corridor to throw it at me. Optical scan of the capital ship-

Alert!

Effectively reducing the distance travelled via gravitational crushing. A crude way of doing it, though.

Transition left, teleport jammer, spatial stabiliser.

-shows that it has a frontal spatial charge launcher. Not what I'd expect from someone like Mongul, who was reputedly as brave as he was murderous, but alright. I-.

Which means this is some sort of tricksy plan they're playing at.

I wince as the hydra head returns to my ring, confirming my suspicion.

"Jordan, the spatial charges nullify constructs."

...And now we get an idea of how they caught the Sector Lanterns. Drop a charge or two dozen around them, disrupt their environmental field long enough to cause them exposure damage and snag their writhing body before they can recover.

It looks like this branch of the Dread Horde has been exploring anti-Spectrum techniques. I have the feeling Mongul Junior has received a Yellow Ring and has been putting it to good use for weapons research. Which means Jordan is at higher risk of injury and/or capture compared to OL, since he's probably not using space-capable armour.

Frozen20XX · 2026-10-28T07:02:39+0000

Mother of Mercy might be jealous she's not here to kick Mobgul II's butt.

thebishop8 · 2026-10-28T07:08:37+0000

A rematch with Mongul's forces has been a long time coming. I can't help but notice that Mongul II's wiki page shows him getting a yellow ring after killing a member of the Sinestro Corps.

Mr Zoat said:
I slumps slightly.

This is from the end of Penal (part 5) and 'slumps' should be 'slump'

Mr Zoat said:
Teleport attempt jammer.

'jammer' should be 'jammed'

Mr Zoat said:
Jade's face appears over my ring.

"I just got off the comms to Lantern Gaart's wife. He hasn't been home in a month."

If Jade is talking through the ring like this, her text should be orange. Darko already mentioned this, but it looks like you removed the orange text instead of adding more.

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