With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[TheLunarwolf]

Not that i think its the right answer but Darish Vol was an Old Sith Lord from the era of the first Exiles. Was one of the Lost tribes of Sith... Not that he would have gotten easily to the Milky Way, but earth is canonical to the Star Wars galaxy, so it's not outside the realm of possibility.

 

[Darko]

That'd be, primarily, the Vree. Who are 100% the classic "greys with saucers" aliens (their saucers have a really nasty cannon armament), who, IIRC, literally abducted humans from Earth for the yucks. Needless to say EarthGov finding out about this was less than amused.

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Yep.

There was a funny scene where a human was sueing a Vree because the Vree's ancestor abducted the human's ancestor, so the human wanted the Vree to financially compensate the family.

and that's before we get to Psi Corps. I'm sure Mr. Bester will be very, very interested in Paul...

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They may not be too interested if it doesn't concern telepaths, but if they find out that the ring is thought-based then they may be interested.

 

[Chaoswind]

Would Paul be aware of the table top game of Babylon 5?

If this is the show continuity then those memories should be gone by the rules @Mr Zoat usually uses. However Paul has shown extensive involvement with the tabletop mini figures scene so he may be working off with that data.

 

[Mr Zoat]

Ah damn. Never watched this.

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It's now available for free on YouTube.

Prevent the assassination of Santiago and the rise of Clark, stopping the Earth Alliance Civil War before it can begin would be my first objective.

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Nice idea, but... Clark was Vice President. He had already risen. Preventing the assassination wouldn't change all of the people who enabled it to happen. Remember, in the series they only found evidence that Clark was involved due to time travel data intercepts.

From the description, that's Security Chief Garibaldi. And man, if this Alt!Paul didn't have his memory of the setting flushed, he'd probably be geeking out right now...

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No, Garibaldi is pure European as far as I know. This guy is the figure depicted on the Human Aide card in the Babylon 5 card game. And even early stage Garibaldi would be a lot more sceptical about a claim like that. And have slightly more hair.

They may not be too interested if it doesn't concern telepaths, but if they find out that the ring is thought-based then they may be interested.

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Given that the SI has a bunch of other people in his head and Psi-Corps stated policy for telepaths with dissociative identity disorder is 'kill them', he should be less worried about them being interested in the ring and more about them deciding to tidy him up.

Would Paul be aware of the table top game of Babylon 5?

If this is the show continuity then those memories should be gone by the rules @Mr Zoat usually uses. However Paul has shown extensive involvement with the tabletop mini figures scene so he may be working off with that data.

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I'm not aware of a tabletop game. I think there was a fleet game, but I never played it.

 

[Chaoswind]

I'm not aware of a tabletop game. I think there was a fleet game, but I never played it.

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So this Paul has no info? Ouch.

Second rule, Paul usually spawns near a planet that has something that can be used to charge the orange ring, the norn stone, the ZPM (stargate), malthusian garbage, etc. Even Nazi earth Paul and Tallow dude from Future Batman had local options they failed to pursue, so what exactly would be a compatible charge station for the ring in B5?

I am guessing he woke up in the orbit of a not so random planet, however I am coming with no options from the top of my head that would have a compatible power source and a random shuttle he can just pick up and use.

 

[Darko]

Even Nazi earth Paul and Tallow dude from Future Batman had local options they failed to pursue

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The Nazi Earth green power ring and lantern are being used by the Nazis, so no luck there.

The one that ended up in the DCAU didn't really have any options until Jevek showed up.

I know that Static can recharge rings, but since he's from the DCAU, that version of Paul would have forgotten about him, and there's no reason that he'd later learn about it, either because Stewart didn't put it in his report, or the Keague didn't want him to recharge the ring because of the risks.

so what exactly would be a compatible charge station for the ring in B5?

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I floated the idea that he may have gotten some Soul Hunters spirit stones, and Zoat left a like on that one, so it's most likely that.

 

[Randomly Biased]

I just finished rewatch B5 last week. Legitimately my favorite TV show. Hope you end up writing more of it!

 

[Ardy]

I'm not aware of a tabletop game. I think there was a fleet game, but I never played it.

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Okay but there was that CCG the SI played a while back, I think with the imprisoned amazons since they were the only ones willing to learn the stupid rules before he decided to change them since Babylon V wasn't a thing on earth 16 so he could change them without issue

 

[Chaoswind]

Okay but there was that CCG the SI played a while back, I think with the imprisoned amazons since they were the only ones willing to learn the stupid rules before he decided to change them since Babylon V wasn't a thing on earth 16 so he could change them without issue

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Oh that is true, so this Paul has the setting knowledge from a car game he liked to play or would that be considered show knowledge and also be purged?

The card game doesn't have timeline details, but does touch on the different factions and the struggle between Shadows and Vorlons.

 

[Tzeentch]

"On behalf of the twenty-third century, welcome to Babylon Five."

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YAY! One of my all time favorite Sci-fi settings!

Really hope this side-story is a long one!

 

[Mr Zoat]

The card game doesn't have timeline details, but does touch on the different factions and the struggle between Shadows and Vorlons.

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Technically true, but when was the last time the Shadow War starting in one of your games?

 

[Yog]

The funnier reaction from vorlons and shadows to Paul's ring would be "oh, great, an actual lantern! Maltusians sent someone. Here, these are the crises you get to resolve". Basically, recognising his authority as a lantern and dimping the whole heal of issues on him to resolve, as well as using him to arbitrate disputes.

Becasue both Shadows and Vorlons are civilized species and their wars are not yet at the total stage. They might still honor at least some political agreements from a xouple million years ago.

 

[Mr Zoat]

The funnier reaction from vorlons and shadows to Paul's ring would be "oh, great, an actual lantern! Maltusians sent someone. Here, these are the crises you get to resolve". Basically, recognising his authority as a lantern and dimping the whole heal of issues on him to resolve, as well as using him to arbitrate disputes.

Becasue both Shadows and Vorlons are civilized species and their wars are not yet at the total stage. They might still honor at least some political agreements from a xouple million years ago.

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Given that they stayed behind to guide the younger races while the First Ones left for the rim, I imagine they would frantically pretend that they were getting on just fine, no need to call your boss back.

 

[Vaermina]

Power rings are bullshit.

Yeah, the First Ones may be more impressive than what was seen on the show, but that doesn't somehow mean that power rings will somehow become worthless as you're implying.

Heck, given the sheer power they have, it wouldn't surprise me if the Vorlons and Shadows are cautious around Paul because they think he's an agent of another First One group, and they don't want to get another party involved in their dispute.

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Power Rings aren't bullshit, bullshit is being able to wave your hand and move yourself outside of time or cut off a part of the universe and collapse it into non-existence.

Which are things the technomages can do using their Shadow technology implants.

In concerns to the Vorlons.

The Core
The core of the Vorlon is the physical part of the Vorlon;
essentially, it is the Vorlon's body, although the term is of little
relevance. When seen, it resembles a being of glowing light,
with tentacles and surrounded by a fiery corona of energy.
Before the Vorlons transcended base matter and became
beings of energy, this core was an organic body (the product
of millions of years of evolution and genetic engineering, but
a recognisable body nonetheless).

The core is a crystalline structure, which contains the
intrusion of the Vorlon's soul into realspace. The core is
composed of four distinct sections. Firstly, there are external
manipulating tentacles, which are each composed of a siliconcarbide
gel, laced with a nanometre-scale grid of sensors and
energy effectors. Each of these tentacles is strong enough to
tear through the hull armour of a Sharlin-class warship, but
is also precise and gentle enough to manipulate brain tissue
without causing injury. For the majority of Vorlons, these
tentacles – and the entire core body – are largely redundant,
as few Vorlons have needed to manipulate matter directly for
millions of years.

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As a note, every single Vorlon is a p15 telepath, there are no assumptions, they will know everything about him the moment they meet.

I'm not aware of a tabletop game. I think there was a fleet game, but I never played it.

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Someone tell Mr Zoat to look up Wars of the Ancients and Darkness and Light, the Vorlon and Shadows fact book from the B5wars Vault.

 

[Darko]

Power Rings aren't bullshit, bullshit is being able to wave your hand and move yourself outside of time or cut off a part of the universe and collapse it into non-existence.

Which are things the technomages can do using their Shadow technology implants

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Yeah and guess what?

Power rings are able to do similar things and on a massive scale.

As a note, every single Vorlon is a p15 telepath, there are no assumptions, they will know everything about him the moment they meet

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Did you forget about the other voices that were shown?

Of course you did.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the Ralgans, who transcended, can protect him from that.