With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Ngamer11]

This feels uncomfortably close to mind control. Of the sort Paul just spent an episode arguing with Anarchy about. And that they deliberately hid away the spear of destiny to avoid.

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This isn't an artificial construct purposefully made to affect minds. It's literally something that came about naturally due to magic, so it'll exist whether or not they do anything to it. So now that they know about it, it's better to keep an eye on it to prevent evil from messing with it than pretending it doesn't exist.

 

[LazySloth13]

I can see the foreign trainees ask Paul or Uncle Sam ask if their own nations/homelands have their own Heartlands as well, Toyman or the telepathic gorilla, with the answer being yes or it will develop overtime organically or given their line of business someone will try to create it artificially.

 

[teikan]

We don't know that. We aren't ever presented with an in-universe power scale. All we can do is compare the observed and almost certainly incomplete feats shown on screen.

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In the early seasons, Twilight, the elemental magician and Celestia's personal apprentice, experienced difficulty teleporting. This suggests that teleportation is highly advanced magic.

I don't remember them trying to change Rarity's mane, and even if they couldn't, that might just mean that they haven't learned that particular spell.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbUcl8jkuxQ They used many different spells, but their combined magical skills weren't enough. Trixie had enough magical skills for that.

I... Don't remember her teleporting without magic, which... Would require a machine?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JAQWvE4tcU ㅤㅤ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyPg0AOq_eE nope.

When does an earth pony who isn't Pinkie Pie do things like that?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSDyk9qyXys (+ just like Pinkie teleported in the same episode) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz_NehWgxd8&pp=ygUZbWxwIGNoZWVzZSBzYW5kd2ljaCBzZW5zZQ== ㅤㅤㅤ https://youtu.be/tpdjSd_u7I4?si=n0fsp1cq0XrqW4Cv&t=322

Apple Bloom was afflicted by a magical disease. I don't think we can take that as representative of how it works.

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When Starlight swapped the marks on Celestia and Luna, they, along with the marks, gained the necessary magic to do each other's work.



P.s. Oh my god, I read on and this is the best treatment of Celestia out of all the tons of fanfics I've read. It's hard to describe how impressed I am.

 

[Mr Zoat]

This feels uncomfortably close to mind control. Of the sort Paul just spent an episode arguing with Anarchy about. And that they deliberately hid away the spear of destiny to avoid.

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The difference being, this arose from the place rather than being imposed upon it externally. It was explicitly stated as being the goal and essential to the state they were trying to build by the founders of that state. And it's not being administered by a normal human person but by that state made flesh.

Complaining about it is a bit like a Christian confessing their sin, feeling better about it and then complaining about feeling better.

 

[Mr Zoat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JAQWvE4tcU ㅤㅤ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyPg0AOq_eE nope.

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Wait... Are you using 'magic' exclusively to refer to unicorn magic? If so, Stormsinger wants a word.