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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Eponymic

    Eponymic Getting sticky.

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    Not sure if that should be in orange quotes.
     
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  2. Aeess

    Aeess I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    It should, the SI called her that jokingly based on Amon referring to Zatanna as miss Zatara in front of him.
     
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  3. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Except Overman is a killer and has the power level of Silver Age Superman.

    And Earth 10 itself is Silver Age Krypton level tech wise.

    So to reiterate the point, barring dues author machina, Paul would lose.
     
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  4. Lazurman

    Lazurman That Others May Fap

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    "Oh, he's punching me. Accelerate. Thank goodness for this kinetic belt that can block punches from kryptonians. Omnidirectional gold kryptonite wave. Shockcrown."

    Bam. Done deal.

    Silver Age, Shmilver Age; Overman ain't infallible or omnipotent. OL has enough tools and experience as a superhero to remain relevant for at least a moment. And a moment is all he'll need to render Overman a mere mortal. That's something that holds true across just about every version of Superman I've ever seen: Kryptonite Works. Assuming Paul knows he's going up against a hostile kryptonian, he can instantly flash-forge kryptonite in any desired amount or color. I don't see why this'd be any different.
     
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  5. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    In the words of a different, equally evil superman "A thought based weapon against someone who can move at ten times the speed of thought? Not too smart colonel."
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    Angelika pushes open the door and steps inside, visibly braced for whatever depravity she may find inside. And… Yes, as expected: a disappointment. It's a bar, not a club or 'love hotel'. People of all ages-. All ages who can legally order alcohol, are chatting and drinking and, yes, almost all of them are women and I can see the violet strands in a good number of cases, but nothing is happening that isn't comfortably PG.

    That doesn't seem to be helping Angelika. She's sort of stopped just inside the entrance, and she's getting a few puzzled glances. Sure, people come here in fancy dress sometimes, but-. Huh, I suppose that the single red 'S' isn't an obvious National Socialist symbol, if people can even see it in the low light of the bar.

    I step around her and approach the bar, a barmaid shrugging to the patron she was talking to before walking over.

    "Are you in the right place?"

    "I didn't realise that it was exclusive."

    "No, no." She shakes her head. "But sometimes tourists come in here without knowing who drinks here."

    "We're here to meet someone, but first…" I turn my head towards Angelika. "Angelika? Do you want something?"

    Overhearing or not, she doesn't appear to be listening.

    I turn back to the bar.

    "Liqueur, I think. I'll have an orange juice."

    "Are you driving?"

    "I'm on call. She's not."

    She turns away, opens the bar's fridge and pulls out an orange juice bottle. "Any particular liquor, or should I just pick one?"

    "Something local? And good?"

    "Okay. Nice Orange Lantern costume."

    "Thank you, I made it myself."

    "Who is she supposed to be?"

    "Some sort of dark and gritty Supergirl reboot." She passes me the orange juice and then pulls out a tumbler from behind the bar. "It's not really my sort of thing, but she's a big fan."

    The barmaid turns to an inverted bottle behind the bar with a picture of a beehive on it. "Single or double?"

    "Best make it a double, I think."

    She presses the glass upwards twice, golden liquid pouring into the glass. Then she turns back to me and puts it down next to my orange juice. I pay, using mild sleight of hand to disguise that I'm taking the euros out of subspace rather than my pocket, then pick up the glasses and turn back to Angelika.

    "Have you adapted?"

    Her eyes jerk back to me. "It's just a bar. These people are not a threat to me."

    "Not a physical threat, but okay. Let me know if you need to leave."

    Mrs and Dr Brauer have been watching us from the moment we entered, shuffling around their bench to make room as we thread our way through the crowd. I smile politely as we get to within talking distance.

    "Mrs Brauer, thank you for agreeing to meet us."

    Mrs Brauer and Angelika are regarding each other cautiously. One is a super-Nazi meeting the double degenerate doppelgänger of her aunt. The other is a medium-power superhero who knows how violent neo-Nazis can be and is fairly sure that she couldn't safely contain the woman opposite her because while she's about as strong and about as tough and heals faster she can't fly or shoot heat beams out of her eyes.

    "That's fine."

    I sit down opposite her wife. "Doctor Brauer."

    She looks surprised for a moment, then shakes her head with a chuckle. "No, I kept my name. And please; Val's fine."

    Angelika is standing next to the table, her eyes-. She's looking at the wedding rings, and Mrs Brauer stretches out her fingers to indicate that she's noticed the stare.

    "Are you going to sit down?"

    Angelika sits almost immediately. Perhaps due to the familiarity of the voice and the attitude of the speaker. They look at each other for a few moments, then Mrs Brauer nods.

    "I'm Gerri Brauer, also known as Donner."

    "Angelika Kant. Overgirl."

    They continue looking at each other for a moment, before Mrs Brauer apparently decides that it's her job to take the lead.

    "How long have you known the other me?"

    "Twenty five years. She had known Overman for decades, and it felt natural to him to ask her to train me."

    A lot of people don't realise that Mrs Brauer is in her seventies. I'd say that she looks less than half that, though obviously I wouldn't be so socially cack-handed as to make a technically accurate 'cradle robber' comment regarding her new wife. Another point on the Danner life expectancy graph. Maybe I should offer it to Paula? She hasn't asked…

    "And.. she's.. a..?"

    Angelika holds her head up proudly. "National Socialist. And you are… Not. Why not?"

    "I.. grew up in post-War Germany. My parents tried very hard to bring me up 'properly', but there were so many competing influences that they could not keep me away from all of them. And they could not keep me from discovering the truth of the parts of National Socialism that they themselves were not particularly fond of. Once I became aware of those, the idea that the Third Empire was defined by strength and unity was not something I could continue to believe. And once that certainty was undermined, I became more open to other points of view." She shakes her head, glancing at her wife. "But only gradually. My parents' lessons were a large part of how I viewed the world."

    "How did you..?" Angelika looks at Val for a moment. "…with women..?"

    "I did not recognise that I liked other women for a long time. My parents had taught me that theirs was the correct way for romantic relationships to be conducted." She shrugs. "And since they were happy together from when they met to when they died, it seemed to work for them. I.. had male friends, but none I felt attracted to in a romantic way. And I had female friends…" Another shrug. "Some of them, I liked the way they looked. Some were very close friends, but… I had nothing to compare what I felt for them to."

    Angelika nods, and I can practically feel her assembling the narrative in her head. Too much honesty and openness, a good and proper National Socialist woman is led astray by the degenerates all around her.

    "What about your version of me? I imagine that she would have married decades ago."

    "No. She did not. She… Did not think that she could justify leaving her role as a warrior heroine to have a family."

    "Still? Is your Germany still at war?"

    "… No. The Second World War finished in nineteen fifty eight, and we have maintained good relations with-" A glance at the half-Japanese Dr Kameya. "-the other world powers since then."

    "She has not found time for a family in fifty years?"

    "Terrorist attacks from surviving subhumans were common in the east. She had to move around a great deal."

    "Angelika, this isn't going to help if you-."

    "And she-. Had a girlfriend. Perhaps more than one, I only saw her with-."

    Mrs Brauer frowns. "You saw her-?"

    "She told me it was a prank!"

    Mrs Brauer smiles fondly. "You must have been a very trusting girl. But what do you think now?"
     
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  7. Citizen

    Citizen Well worn.

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    Surely it is all a ruse, a long-running prank that a good, right-thinking girl will have a fun chuckle at once the punchline hits.
     
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  8. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Versed in the lewd.

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    Angelika is gearing up for an explosion, isn't she?

    You can practically feel the strain.
     
  9. Vlad

    Vlad I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I cannot wait for when the mental breakdown comes in. Is she going to break the countryside, cry her eyes out or shut down and stare into infinity as her brain bluescreens.
     
  10. oct9010

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    "Super-who?"

    In this universe, the only 'Supergirl' is a human pyrokinetic who probably hasn't ever made the news in America, never mind Germany.
     
  11. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Kara has been referred to in-universe as 'Supergirl', even though she's never been active in that capacity.
     
  12. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    I bet she expected some sort of S&M club. Latex and leather corsets, people chained to racks and being whipped, that sort of thing? Or perhaps something like the Blue Oyster Club in Police Academy.

    I mean, there are other men in the place... They can't all be homosexual, surely?

    I bet she's just in shock that it isn't some den of sexual depravity, like she probably expected it to be. But no, just a bar, a bunch of tables, and women enjoying each other's company...

    Yeah, I think she's gonna need something hard to shake off the shock.

    Would Schnappes be a bit too much?:D

    Technically and literally true.

    Now, if anyone notices the similarity to older German military uniform styles...

    Hopefully something that will make even her shudder as it goes down...

    "It's all so ordinary, isn't it? Not one bit of naughtiness in sight."

    How considerate of him...

    Ah, original Golden Age Superman powerset. Faster than a speeding bullet (barely), More powerful than a locomotive (if it's not going too fast), able to leap tall buildings in a single bound (up to about five stories or so...)

    Well, it was the polite assumption. Thankfully she's not offended.

    "It's not like you'll immediately want to start munching carpet or anything.";)

    Well, she ain't throwing punches. Yet.

    Danner longevity for the win.

    I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to convince her, she's seen what Artemis can do by now. At worst, she'll have to relearn her martial arts.

    Ah, the big question. This will have a bigger impact on Overgirl than anything OL could say, I bet.

    Something of a teenage rebellion, 'rejecting your parent's ideals' thing in part, I suppose.

    All too common a story throughout the world, superhuman strength or not.

    <sigh> Still too devoted...

    Because of course she'd be expected to abandon all other things to raise children. Some things are better left in the past...

    I'm sure that's only a matter of time before someone start looking to expand their territory... Maybe not this century, but eventually...

    Ooh, and out come the justifications...

    Huh. Well, she did say she would turn a blind eye to things...

    Oh, boy, here we go...

    Is it me, or does it seem Overgirl is listening to Donner more than she did OL? It's because of the resemblance isn't it? Despite her repeated acknowledgement that no, this isn't 'Aunty Gerri', she's still slipping into that 'dutiful student' role...

    Corrections:
    Let me know if you need to leave.
    "I did not recognise that I liked...
     
  13. Bigreader

    Bigreader Doom. Boom!

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    Exactly. Does anyone but the super people know about her? Kara i mean.
     
  14. Ardy

    Ardy I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Can I just point out the pun everyone has glossed over so far. Superman has super hearing, she has over hearing, he has super vision, she has over sight...
     
  15. nick012000

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    Honestly, even if she'd been in a full Nazi SS uniform, I doubt she'd have drawn too many looks in a bar like this anywhere that wasn't Germany. It's not too uncommon for Nazi uniforms to be used as part of sexual roleplay. It'd probably get her some propositions from some of the subbier patrons who are up for some femdom, though.
     
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  16. gustyeagle

    gustyeagle Know what you're doing yet?

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    Supergirl is the natural name for an individual who is both super and a girl.
     
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  17. Cuchulin

    Cuchulin Versed in the lewd.

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    LOL!!
     
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  18. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    Yes - but telling a random woman she’s a gritty supergirl ripoff doesn’t make sense, when Supergirl isn’t active and very few people know she exists - though her being a rip-off of the pyrokinetic one also somewhat makes sense.
     
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  19. Vaermina

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    Except he's already dead because Silver Age Overman, who is thousands of times stronger and faster then Earth-14 superman, punched straight through the inertial field, which isn't a no limits fallacy, and has actual hard limits on how much kinetic energy it can absorb.

    Which I am guessing is something you didn't know because of how obscure Rocket is as a character.

    On that note, if Zoat had Gold Kryptonite effect Overman that would be a Dues Author Machina since being a Silver Age Kryptonian he wouldn't naturally be vulnerable to it. :p
     
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    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    I'm sure pornhub has taken care of that in-universe.
     
  21. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    Pornhub doesn’t seem to be as creative as you seem to think it is.
     
  22. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    Ok then maybe the martin woman hunter did something?
     
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  23. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    I read Maxx's post earlier about why he is so invested in Overgirls rehabilitaion, while he killed the Citadelians and i think i have an answer.
    One is that he saw it as necessary to kill the Citadel at the time, but if you remember in Jiggity Jig he was trying to find peaceful solutions to the conflict, partially to feel better about himself and try to create peace that does not require mass death.
    It could be that because she looks more like a human that he finds it easier to relate to her, while he doesn't have extreme prejudices concerning aliens and their diffrent apperances i am pretty sure that he prefers to be in a room with those that look more humanoid.
    Overgirl also isn't driven to be a nazi or evil by her very genetic structure. The Citadelians were created to be brutish thugs and nothing else, and demons in this story, barring a few exceptions, seem to literary be made of pure evil and aren't able to bcome better. Demon Constantine is made of pure hate and loathing. While it is tragic how he came to be, the SI probably doesn't consider him to be capable of becoming better. He has said that he hates demons and has several prejudices. A people that aren't able to become better and more civilized is one of those.
    He also killed the Citadelians because they didn't exactly follow of him of their free will, he mind controlled them. Kori was upset that he killed them, but he defended himself saying that because he controlled them to help him, instead of doing it of their own free will, he doesn't have any obligation aside from the token one he gave them.
    Overgirl has doubts about her beliefs and way of life and the SI is willing to use those to try to convert her.
    She has killed people that have fought against the government that she served, but most commited actions that we would consider terrorism, like Sivana 10 selling superhumans to attack civilians, instead of freedom fighters like we are shown in fiction.
     
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    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    I have no idea where you're getting this idea few people know she exists.

    She's well known enough that Linda Danvers from Leesburg Virginia knew who she was and resented her enough to want to besmirch her reputation.
     
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    People have also probably cosplayed as genderbent versions of superheroes, so some may have dressed up as a female Superman and probably taken a more edgy look.
     
  26. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    Probably not that common in Germany, due to local laws, though.
     
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    Like I said, "anywhere but Germany". ;)
     
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  28. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    Wasn't awake, so missed that. Sorry.
     
  29. inglorius

    inglorius Getting sticky.

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    This is quality content that I signed for.
    And this is what you get for willing ignorance.
     
  30. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    Yes. A new member of Superman's family turning up was big news.
    Her costume isn't very Nazii. It's a grey bodystocking with gloves and cape and a chest insignia. No swastikas or other Nazi symbols.
     
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