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[RWBY] RWBY Shorts
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(had this small idea)
It was a well known but not often talked about fact that Ozpin was losing his magic.
Slowly year after year, life after life he began to atrophy.
He explained it away as a consequence of his soul fusing with new humanities souls and their unattuned bodies, but in truth this was a lie.
Ozpin was losing his magic for one very simple and shameful reason.
Ozpin, once Ozma had been a Paladin.
He had taken oaths to let no evil live, to let no innocent suffer when he could stop it.
When that evil came in the form of his beloved Ozma betrayed those oaths.
Killing her would be one thing, putting her to rest he could do. But a paladin does not kill evil. They Destroy it.
If he were to strike Salem down that would be the end of her. No rest, no relief, just the destruction of her soul.
And until very recently he couldn't stand the thought of it.
But then he traveled with RWBY and JN_R (he tries not to think about the missing P).
And he sees their suffering. Wide hopeful eyes full of idealism faded with pain and sadness. It's heart-rending seeing these good kids suffer just because of his mistakes.
So he leaves them. He travels by himself. Over mountains and lakes and valley he walks alone. Until he reaches a burnt out castle.
She's waiting for him. Magic in her hands and a insult on her lips, ready to strike down a pitiful broken man.
"Oath Flame."
What meets her instead is a raging torrent of magic. Shaped like flames but white like someone had erased part of the picture that was reality.
Tyrian, emerald, and mercury didn't even have time to scream before they were no more.
This wasn't Ozpin the teacher come to uselessly throw his life away.
This was Ozma the failure finally come to uphold oaths.
It was a well known but not often talked about fact that Ozpin was losing his magic.
Slowly year after year, life after life he began to atrophy.
He explained it away as a consequence of his soul fusing with new humanities souls and their unattuned bodies, but in truth this was a lie.
Ozpin was losing his magic for one very simple and shameful reason.
Ozpin, once Ozma had been a Paladin.
He had taken oaths to let no evil live, to let no innocent suffer when he could stop it.
When that evil came in the form of his beloved Ozma betrayed those oaths.
Killing her would be one thing, putting her to rest he could do. But a paladin does not kill evil. They Destroy it.
If he were to strike Salem down that would be the end of her. No rest, no relief, just the destruction of her soul.
And until very recently he couldn't stand the thought of it.
But then he traveled with RWBY and JN_R (he tries not to think about the missing P).
And he sees their suffering. Wide hopeful eyes full of idealism faded with pain and sadness. It's heart-rending seeing these good kids suffer just because of his mistakes.
So he leaves them. He travels by himself. Over mountains and lakes and valley he walks alone. Until he reaches a burnt out castle.
She's waiting for him. Magic in her hands and a insult on her lips, ready to strike down a pitiful broken man.
"Oath Flame."
What meets her instead is a raging torrent of magic. Shaped like flames but white like someone had erased part of the picture that was reality.
Tyrian, emerald, and mercury didn't even have time to scream before they were no more.
This wasn't Ozpin the teacher come to uselessly throw his life away.
This was Ozma the failure finally come to uphold oaths.
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In any case, after that pile of shit I am more motivated than ever to write RWBY fanfic that is fun. And let Jaune be a hero, Ruby develop, Yang stay Yang, Blake not be a shitty kitty, Pyrrha be more, Ren be cool, Nora be her wonderful self and the others be characters and not props for a bunch of morons trying to pander to broke insane people.
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Here's a horror idea for you.
Salem and her group have been absorbed into a even more evil group that wants control of everything in existence.
That's right.
The Grimm have been acquired by Disney.
Salem and her group have been absorbed into a even more evil group that wants control of everything in existence.
That's right.
The Grimm have been acquired by Disney.
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SharkCultist
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That makes me worry more. If KH can theoretically branch out into anything Disney then there is a chance for true horror.
RWBY meets high School musical. Or Howard the duck.
On Worldbuilding: Healing Dust
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Dust allows for numerous effects on the world, ranging from Elemental attacks to Time Dilation, and with the use of Aura, it is possible to cause an even wider range of things to happen. So it should come as no surprise that medical applications for Dust were investigated and researched as thoroughly as the many other uses for the material over the course of centuries. Ranging from quacks trying to ingest gravity dust to become immortal, to more scientific approaches of using Air Dust to improve oxygen concentrations for patients with damaged lungs.
The holy grail sought in all this research was a way to transfer Aura from one person to another, which would speed healing and recovery from almost any injury and many ailments.
There were some early successes with transferring Aura via blood transfusions, but this was often hit or miss and potentially deadly until bloodtyping and safe blood transfusion and donation practices were discovered. Even then, it was entirely dependent on the donor's blood type and thus of somewhat limited utility.
It wasn't until the decade prior to the Great War that a real breakthrough was made by Lady Liath Airmed of Albion. An aristocratic lady, she had grown up with a keen interest in Dust, Aura, and medicine, and was a trained nurse who did extensive charity work to provide medical care to the poor and needy. Her husband Askel supported her research through his industrial concerns, as he had a keen interest in Dust and its scientificial and industrial uses. His lab was one of the first in Albion to begin active scientific study of Dust with the new invention of X-Ray cameras, and he made this available to his wife for her work. She studied how Aura moved through Dust and humans thanks to these and other early spectrographic sensors, and used what was then cutting edge knowledge on physics and chemistry to do some of the first real scientific analysis of the phenomenon. Thanks to this work and the volunteering of several Aura-unlocked individuals, Lady Airmed was able to analyze why Aura reacts with Dust and how.
Among her incredible discoveries was that some mixtures of Dust absorbed Aura at different frequencies than others. That Aura could have different frequencies. And that some frequencies of Aura could bypass the resistance put up by other people's Aura and be absorbed.
This breakthrough in particular allowed for Lady Airmed to create the first rudimentary mixtures of what she called "Panacea". She, being Aura unlocked, would place the mixture in a capsule that was strapped to her hand. She then placed the capsule against the patient, and flared her Aura. Thanks to the absorbing properties of the Dust Mixture, some of the Aura actually got through and the level of the patient's own Aura increased, improving their health. It worked.
However, there were drawbacks. This early version of the Healing Dust was only 5 percent efficient-For every point of Aura the patient gained, the donor lost twenty. Another drawback was that, like regular Dust, Healing Dust was essentially worthless after being used. Still another was that it was complicated to manufacture and required very specialized equipment. It was not until the Great War, with the necessity for massive industrialization and huge advancements in technology, that Healing Dust could be produced on a large scale.
A final drawback though was that there is a limit to how much Aura anyone could give to others. And as a result, people with powerful Auras were torn between being exceptional support or being exceptional front range combatants.
After the war, Medical Dust improved, and training for maximizing use of your Aura spread with the global Hunter system. With the post-war economic booms, the technology spread across Remnant and helped lead to the massive improvement in the quality of life across the planet seen by the modern day. Many medical breakthroughs have helped make Healing Dust far better. Even so, the maximum efficiency of Aura transfer through the most advanced Medical Dust is 25 percent, and still requires Aura powerful individuals to save people in critical condition. But millions of people across Remnant enjoy better, healthier lives or have survived everything from Grimm attacks to natural disasters to disease outbreaks. While Aura infusions alone cannot cure every disease, they give everyone a far better chance of surviving them.
The holy grail sought in all this research was a way to transfer Aura from one person to another, which would speed healing and recovery from almost any injury and many ailments.
There were some early successes with transferring Aura via blood transfusions, but this was often hit or miss and potentially deadly until bloodtyping and safe blood transfusion and donation practices were discovered. Even then, it was entirely dependent on the donor's blood type and thus of somewhat limited utility.
It wasn't until the decade prior to the Great War that a real breakthrough was made by Lady Liath Airmed of Albion. An aristocratic lady, she had grown up with a keen interest in Dust, Aura, and medicine, and was a trained nurse who did extensive charity work to provide medical care to the poor and needy. Her husband Askel supported her research through his industrial concerns, as he had a keen interest in Dust and its scientificial and industrial uses. His lab was one of the first in Albion to begin active scientific study of Dust with the new invention of X-Ray cameras, and he made this available to his wife for her work. She studied how Aura moved through Dust and humans thanks to these and other early spectrographic sensors, and used what was then cutting edge knowledge on physics and chemistry to do some of the first real scientific analysis of the phenomenon. Thanks to this work and the volunteering of several Aura-unlocked individuals, Lady Airmed was able to analyze why Aura reacts with Dust and how.
Among her incredible discoveries was that some mixtures of Dust absorbed Aura at different frequencies than others. That Aura could have different frequencies. And that some frequencies of Aura could bypass the resistance put up by other people's Aura and be absorbed.
This breakthrough in particular allowed for Lady Airmed to create the first rudimentary mixtures of what she called "Panacea". She, being Aura unlocked, would place the mixture in a capsule that was strapped to her hand. She then placed the capsule against the patient, and flared her Aura. Thanks to the absorbing properties of the Dust Mixture, some of the Aura actually got through and the level of the patient's own Aura increased, improving their health. It worked.
However, there were drawbacks. This early version of the Healing Dust was only 5 percent efficient-For every point of Aura the patient gained, the donor lost twenty. Another drawback was that, like regular Dust, Healing Dust was essentially worthless after being used. Still another was that it was complicated to manufacture and required very specialized equipment. It was not until the Great War, with the necessity for massive industrialization and huge advancements in technology, that Healing Dust could be produced on a large scale.
A final drawback though was that there is a limit to how much Aura anyone could give to others. And as a result, people with powerful Auras were torn between being exceptional support or being exceptional front range combatants.
After the war, Medical Dust improved, and training for maximizing use of your Aura spread with the global Hunter system. With the post-war economic booms, the technology spread across Remnant and helped lead to the massive improvement in the quality of life across the planet seen by the modern day. Many medical breakthroughs have helped make Healing Dust far better. Even so, the maximum efficiency of Aura transfer through the most advanced Medical Dust is 25 percent, and still requires Aura powerful individuals to save people in critical condition. But millions of people across Remnant enjoy better, healthier lives or have survived everything from Grimm attacks to natural disasters to disease outbreaks. While Aura infusions alone cannot cure every disease, they give everyone a far better chance of surviving them.
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Anyway! Here are some fun prompts for RWBY! Let's get back to having some fun.
-Let's expand on Grimm Kaiju in general. How to handle them, how to counter them, and explore what it would be like if there were organic Kaiju who rose to oppose them. Nature decides "Screw you Salem you cunt, I'm going to mess you up with Godzilla."
-Let's come up with plots for how Jaune and his friends might crash a wedding between a girl close to them who is being forced to marry against her will. It's a classic story plot, can be ridiculous fun, and CRWBY never once thought of it in any capacity despite it being a possibility for many of the girls for this to happen because "Writing is hard lol". Damnit, I want to see RWBY and JNPR crashing a wedding dramatically to save their friend from marrying an asshole.
It could be Pyrrha, whose parents are actually quite nice in this timeline but due to Pyrrha's choice to go to Beacon instead of stay a star, they are now in debt and entrapped by a slick bastard who wants Pyrrha for a trophy wife. It could be that her own parents are trying to get her to do this and she can't say no due to years of emotional abuse and manipulation into feeling obligated to do so. Either way, Pyrrha has to marry this guy and can't just kill him. But Jaune, Nora, Ren, and RWBY decide "Nah, we are rescuing you" and Pyrrha is irreversibly made wet for Jaune and you get a nice Arkos ending.
It could be Weiss. Jacques Schnee could actually use leverage on Weiss to force her to marry someone against her will to further his interests and would definitely be the kind of guy to do so. Her friends would not let this stand and would crash it. Jaune coming in on a white horse. He would say: "You don't have to marry me instead, Weiss. I just know you don't want to marry him." And at this, her tsundere nature comes crashing down and she admits that yes, she loves this man. Certainly would be more interesting that much of the Atlas Arc.
It could be Blake. She is effectively a princess in all but name. Her parents might be over a political barrel-She has to marry Adam to ensure peace, or protect her parents from assassination. But Ghira and Kali slip this out to her friends and they come to save her. No it would not be a vehicle for Bumblebee because I do not believe in giving people cancer! Have Sun save Blake! Do ma boi right! Let him be the hero for once! Or make it Knightshade! Just do something interesting with Menagerian politics!
It could be Yang or Ruby. Yang is the daughter of a Bandit Queen so there's bound to be someone dubious looking to even the score by trying ruin her life via a forced engagement just to get back in some at Raven. Ruby's mom as well as the rest of Team STRQ probably had no short list of enemies that wanted revenge on them and if they bided their time would have tried going after their families in a much different fashion then before. Such as exploiting the legal system to force them into such an arrangement as a way to pay off certain debts that Tai and Co didn't even know they had, debts that were created because these individuals systematically targeted their finances in some way. Yang would most likely step up to do it because she has ALWAYS tried to step up for her family because no one else could. Jaune is going to save either of them regardless with their friends too, but putting Yang in a position where she can't just fight her way out can be very interesting for her character!
Or hell, have JAUNE about to be married off! I don't care just someone write it!
-Let's expand on Grimm Kaiju in general. How to handle them, how to counter them, and explore what it would be like if there were organic Kaiju who rose to oppose them. Nature decides "Screw you Salem you cunt, I'm going to mess you up with Godzilla."
-Let's come up with plots for how Jaune and his friends might crash a wedding between a girl close to them who is being forced to marry against her will. It's a classic story plot, can be ridiculous fun, and CRWBY never once thought of it in any capacity despite it being a possibility for many of the girls for this to happen because "Writing is hard lol". Damnit, I want to see RWBY and JNPR crashing a wedding dramatically to save their friend from marrying an asshole.
It could be Pyrrha, whose parents are actually quite nice in this timeline but due to Pyrrha's choice to go to Beacon instead of stay a star, they are now in debt and entrapped by a slick bastard who wants Pyrrha for a trophy wife. It could be that her own parents are trying to get her to do this and she can't say no due to years of emotional abuse and manipulation into feeling obligated to do so. Either way, Pyrrha has to marry this guy and can't just kill him. But Jaune, Nora, Ren, and RWBY decide "Nah, we are rescuing you" and Pyrrha is irreversibly made wet for Jaune and you get a nice Arkos ending.
It could be Weiss. Jacques Schnee could actually use leverage on Weiss to force her to marry someone against her will to further his interests and would definitely be the kind of guy to do so. Her friends would not let this stand and would crash it. Jaune coming in on a white horse. He would say: "You don't have to marry me instead, Weiss. I just know you don't want to marry him." And at this, her tsundere nature comes crashing down and she admits that yes, she loves this man. Certainly would be more interesting that much of the Atlas Arc.
It could be Blake. She is effectively a princess in all but name. Her parents might be over a political barrel-She has to marry Adam to ensure peace, or protect her parents from assassination. But Ghira and Kali slip this out to her friends and they come to save her. No it would not be a vehicle for Bumblebee because I do not believe in giving people cancer! Have Sun save Blake! Do ma boi right! Let him be the hero for once! Or make it Knightshade! Just do something interesting with Menagerian politics!
It could be Yang or Ruby. Yang is the daughter of a Bandit Queen so there's bound to be someone dubious looking to even the score by trying ruin her life via a forced engagement just to get back in some at Raven. Ruby's mom as well as the rest of Team STRQ probably had no short list of enemies that wanted revenge on them and if they bided their time would have tried going after their families in a much different fashion then before. Such as exploiting the legal system to force them into such an arrangement as a way to pay off certain debts that Tai and Co didn't even know they had, debts that were created because these individuals systematically targeted their finances in some way. Yang would most likely step up to do it because she has ALWAYS tried to step up for her family because no one else could. Jaune is going to save either of them regardless with their friends too, but putting Yang in a position where she can't just fight her way out can be very interesting for her character!
Or hell, have JAUNE about to be married off! I don't care just someone write it!
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Love world lore!
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Blacksmith aka Goddess of Nature summoning the Showa heroic Godzilla to stomp all the Grimm Kaiju sounds hilarious, he flies by his breath, does the tail dropkick and victory dances it's so silly but awesome at the same time or Heisei Gamera or both
Pyrrha finance troubles? I can see Weiss using her dad to get the right to Pyrrha image to promote his product or they find dirt on the groom, after all human trafficing is canon
I can see Weiss not tell anyone and have Whitley be the one to call her friends to help his sister, Jaune using his connections to falsify a royal engagement with the help of Whitley sounds awesome
Sun Saving Blake with the help of his team and RW_Y and JNPR sounds epic
Yang taking the bullet for Ruby or being left with Raven BS ? If the first then Ruby is breaking down thinking it;s all her fault if the later Qrow is PISSED
half want an epic action back fight, half the darkness wedding rescue from Konosuba
Also isn't Jaune an ordain minister?
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I wonder how Aura effects lifespan?
I don't know it just occurred to me that the only OLD huntsmen we see is maria. (Penny's dad is a reasearcher, that old maiden in Atlas we don't know shit about, etc)
Its just... something about using your soul. As a shield, a resource for stuff like semblances, enhancing your body. It feels like there should be some long term repercussions for that.
I don't know it just occurred to me that the only OLD huntsmen we see is maria. (Penny's dad is a reasearcher, that old maiden in Atlas we don't know shit about, etc)
Its just... something about using your soul. As a shield, a resource for stuff like semblances, enhancing your body. It feels like there should be some long term repercussions for that.
Jaune Asks Out Yang (The Dance) 3: Rough
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Yang usually got up cheerful and energetic, but today she was like a miniature sun. She hugged Blake, made breakfast (Ruby's favorite chocolate chip pancakes) and teased Weiss.
Blake frankly was mortified and jumped out the window when it looked like Yang might hug her again. Which Yang found hilarious.
She left with Weiss to work on the ballroom, a spring in her step. Weiss was scowling constantly.
Weiss: "Really? So easily pleased by Arc asking you out, huh?"
Yang: "Ha! He's gonna only have eyes for me, Weisscream!"
Weiss: "Neptune is a hundred times the man Arc is!"
Yang: "Hope that works out for you-"
She bumped into Jaune when he came around a corner. He grabbed onto her shoulders and laughed nervously.
Jaune: "Oh! Uh, hey Yang! Hey Weiss!"
Weiss scowled intensely at him as Yang giggled.
Yang: "Hey Jaune! You know, if you wanted to get your hands on me, you just had to ask~."
He laughed and blushed. She liked it. She liked it a lot.
Jaune: "Funny me running into you-"
Yang: "Ha! Nice!"
Jaune: "Heh. I was going to ask if you needed help with the decorations?"
Yang: "Oh?"
Jaune: "I mean, I used to help decorate the school gym for dances in my hometown."
Yang: "Well! I appreciate the help! Come on!" She took his hand and led him away "You know, you didn't tell me where you came from."
Jaune: "Oh, uh, Radian. It's a little mountain town up in Gallia."
Yang: "Never been there, it any fun?"
Jaune: "Well it's got some great sights, and there's a ski resort in the valley. Mostly we just have our hospital, which used to be the family castle..."
Weiss stepped in front of Yang and Jaune, glaring.
Normally being ignored by Jaune was something she'd hoped for... But now it was just so... Irritating! And she didn't know why.
Weiss: pulls out her Scroll and texts Hello Neptune. Would you like to join me in the ballroom to decorate for the dance?
It took a few moments but she got a reply.
Neptune: Sorry Snow Angel. Got work to do with my team. Sun called a team training session. Duty calls.
Weiss scowled a bit. From what she had seen of Sun, he wasn't very keen on team training. Still...
Weiss: Oh. I understand. See you later.
Neptune: Totally. Later babe.
She sighed... Then heard another sigh. She looked over her shoulder and saw Pyrrha staring after Yang and Jaune, looking a bit forlorn.
Weiss: "Ah! Oh, Pyrrha, I'm so sorry I didn't see you there..."
Pyrrha: "Oh! I didn't want to be seen. Sorry..."
Weiss frowned. She looked back at Arc and Yang, still laughing together. She looked back at the forlorn Pyrrha.
Her eyes slowly widened.
Weiss: Wait, wait, wait... There's no way... It's impossible...!
Weiss: "... Pyrrha... You're not... Jealous of Yang... Are you?"
Pyrrha went bright red. Weiss stared. She waited. Waited for Pyrrha to deny it. To say she was kidding.
Pyrrha: "I... O-Of course not!"
Weiss: "Oh Breaker you are. You... You like him?!"
Pyrrha: "I-I... W-Well... Um...!"
Weiss: This can't be happening. SHE LIKES HIM!? SHE LIKES THAT IDIOT?!
The majority of RWBY seemed to think Pyrrha was just an overprotective big sister to Jaune-Natural given that he was so hopeless. Only Ruby thought Pyrrha had feelings for him, but Weiss had dismissed that due to Ruby having all the romantic experience of a paperclip!
Weiss: "I mean... You could have literally any man you wanted! And you want... Him?!"
Pyrrha very meekly nodded. Weiss stared in disbelief. Her mind was a blank... Until Weiss's training in political maneuvering and ruthless strategy asserted itself. She smirked devilishly.
Weiss: Wait a minute... I can get back at Yang for her insults to Neptune, make Pyrrha happy, AND get Arc off my back all in one fell swoop!
Weiss: "Then... There's only one thing to do for you, my dear friend Pyrrha."
Pyrrha: "Huh?"
Weiss: "I'm going to help you get your man, of course!"
Pyrrha: "Y-You are?" She frowned "Why?"
Weiss: "Because we're friends, of course!" And I'm getting back at Yang!
Pyrrha: "I-I just... If he rejected me-"
Weiss: "He won't! I know just how to do it!"
Pyrrha: stares in wonder "You do?"
Weiss: "Of course! Hang on..."
She led Pyrrha after Yang and Jaune. They made it to the ballroom, where several students were milling about. Already, Yang and Jaune were decorating together happily. Laughing and joking like they had been friends for years. Weiss' eyebrow twitched. She saw Pyrrha look more depressed.
Weiss: "Listen. I'm sure the dolt cares for you too. He just hyper focused on me for some idiotic reason. The best way to get him to pay attention to you is jealousy."
Pyrrha: "J-Jealousy?"
Weiss: "Exactly! And for you to do a bit of acting."
Pyrrha: "Um... That's not one of my strengths."
Weiss: "N-No, you were pretty good in The Amazon Strikes!"
Pyrrha: stares "You think so?"
Weiss of course was lying her ass off. The Amazon Strikes did star Pyrrha, but Pyrrha was terrible. But Weiss was well versed in flattery.
Weiss: "Of course! You just have to have a date who can act like he's taking advantage of you! Get Arc to protect you, he takes a fall, you confess your feelings, and you two live happily forever after!"
Weiss: And Yang gets to suffer knowing her dolt broke up with her! It'll serve her right for implying my Neptune would cheat on me and being so obnoxious!
Pyrrha: "I-I um, I don't know-"
Yang laughed and hip bumped Jaune. He laughed and hip bumped her back. Pyrrha stared very intensely at this scene. Weiss grinned.
Weiss: "You were saying?"
Pyrrha: "... What do we do?" She sounded both resigned but determined.
Weiss: "Simple... Um..."
Weiss headed off, Pyrrha in tow. They got out onto the quad. She narrowed her eyes as she scanned through the available Hunters.
Weiss: Too stupid, too weak, too foolish-AHA!
She spottered Mercury Black lounging around. She strode up to him, pulled him up, and dragged him off.
Mercury: "Ah! Hey, what are you-?"
Weiss dragged him to the tree Pyrrha was waiting by. She turned to him with a smirk.
Weiss: "Mister Black, was it? You know Pyrrha Nikos, do you not?"
Mercury: "Uh, by reputation only-"
Weiss: "Good! You're going to take her out to the dance!"
Mercury: "I-What?!"
Pyrrha: "What?!"
Weiss: "Miss Nikos is trying to get the attention of her dimwitted partner, who is taking another girl out. You are to play the cad, to make him jealous, and make it look like you're trying to take advantage of her. You will lure Arc in, pretend to fall to his attack, and ensure Miss Nikos ends up with him."
Mercury: "I... Why in the hell would I want to do that?"
Weiss: "Because I will pay you 2000 lien to do it. Half now, half after the job is done."
Mercury: blinked rapidly "I... You're serious-?"
Weiss produced the lien and held it up. Mercury blinked twice, went through a mental calculation, and frowned.
Mercury: "... 5000 lien and I'll make it look extra good."
Weiss: "How extra good?"
Mercury: "I'll make it look like Arc can actually fight."
Pyrrha: "H-Hey, he really can-!"
Weiss: "Hmmm... Difficult. Are you sure you can manage it?"
Mercury: "You picked me for a reason."
Weiss: "True... It's because you seemed to have the temperament needed to truly take Miss Nikos out and make it believable."
Mercury: "Well, if I have that confidence, then clearly I'm worth the extra money, hm?"
Weiss: "Hmmmm... Very well. 5000 it is!"
Pyrrha: "W-Weiss-!"
Weiss: "Excellent! You two will start the operation now!" beams at Pyrrha "Don't worry! I'm sure he'll do just fine! And if he doesn't stick to the job, you can fold him in half!"
Mercury: "Hey! I'm a professional! If I'm given a job, I will complete it!"
Weiss: "You'd better!"
Blake frankly was mortified and jumped out the window when it looked like Yang might hug her again. Which Yang found hilarious.
She left with Weiss to work on the ballroom, a spring in her step. Weiss was scowling constantly.
Weiss: "Really? So easily pleased by Arc asking you out, huh?"
Yang: "Ha! He's gonna only have eyes for me, Weisscream!"
Weiss: "Neptune is a hundred times the man Arc is!"
Yang: "Hope that works out for you-"
She bumped into Jaune when he came around a corner. He grabbed onto her shoulders and laughed nervously.
Jaune: "Oh! Uh, hey Yang! Hey Weiss!"
Weiss scowled intensely at him as Yang giggled.
Yang: "Hey Jaune! You know, if you wanted to get your hands on me, you just had to ask~."
He laughed and blushed. She liked it. She liked it a lot.
Jaune: "Funny me running into you-"
Yang: "Ha! Nice!"
Jaune: "Heh. I was going to ask if you needed help with the decorations?"
Yang: "Oh?"
Jaune: "I mean, I used to help decorate the school gym for dances in my hometown."
Yang: "Well! I appreciate the help! Come on!" She took his hand and led him away "You know, you didn't tell me where you came from."
Jaune: "Oh, uh, Radian. It's a little mountain town up in Gallia."
Yang: "Never been there, it any fun?"
Jaune: "Well it's got some great sights, and there's a ski resort in the valley. Mostly we just have our hospital, which used to be the family castle..."
Weiss stepped in front of Yang and Jaune, glaring.
Normally being ignored by Jaune was something she'd hoped for... But now it was just so... Irritating! And she didn't know why.
Weiss: pulls out her Scroll and texts Hello Neptune. Would you like to join me in the ballroom to decorate for the dance?
It took a few moments but she got a reply.
Neptune: Sorry Snow Angel. Got work to do with my team. Sun called a team training session. Duty calls.
Weiss scowled a bit. From what she had seen of Sun, he wasn't very keen on team training. Still...
Weiss: Oh. I understand. See you later.
Neptune: Totally. Later babe.
She sighed... Then heard another sigh. She looked over her shoulder and saw Pyrrha staring after Yang and Jaune, looking a bit forlorn.
Weiss: "Ah! Oh, Pyrrha, I'm so sorry I didn't see you there..."
Pyrrha: "Oh! I didn't want to be seen. Sorry..."
Weiss frowned. She looked back at Arc and Yang, still laughing together. She looked back at the forlorn Pyrrha.
Her eyes slowly widened.
Weiss: Wait, wait, wait... There's no way... It's impossible...!
Weiss: "... Pyrrha... You're not... Jealous of Yang... Are you?"
Pyrrha went bright red. Weiss stared. She waited. Waited for Pyrrha to deny it. To say she was kidding.
Pyrrha: "I... O-Of course not!"
Weiss: "Oh Breaker you are. You... You like him?!"
Pyrrha: "I-I... W-Well... Um...!"
Weiss: This can't be happening. SHE LIKES HIM!? SHE LIKES THAT IDIOT?!
The majority of RWBY seemed to think Pyrrha was just an overprotective big sister to Jaune-Natural given that he was so hopeless. Only Ruby thought Pyrrha had feelings for him, but Weiss had dismissed that due to Ruby having all the romantic experience of a paperclip!
Weiss: "I mean... You could have literally any man you wanted! And you want... Him?!"
Pyrrha very meekly nodded. Weiss stared in disbelief. Her mind was a blank... Until Weiss's training in political maneuvering and ruthless strategy asserted itself. She smirked devilishly.
Weiss: Wait a minute... I can get back at Yang for her insults to Neptune, make Pyrrha happy, AND get Arc off my back all in one fell swoop!
Weiss: "Then... There's only one thing to do for you, my dear friend Pyrrha."
Pyrrha: "Huh?"
Weiss: "I'm going to help you get your man, of course!"
Pyrrha: "Y-You are?" She frowned "Why?"
Weiss: "Because we're friends, of course!" And I'm getting back at Yang!
Pyrrha: "I-I just... If he rejected me-"
Weiss: "He won't! I know just how to do it!"
Pyrrha: stares in wonder "You do?"
Weiss: "Of course! Hang on..."
She led Pyrrha after Yang and Jaune. They made it to the ballroom, where several students were milling about. Already, Yang and Jaune were decorating together happily. Laughing and joking like they had been friends for years. Weiss' eyebrow twitched. She saw Pyrrha look more depressed.
Weiss: "Listen. I'm sure the dolt cares for you too. He just hyper focused on me for some idiotic reason. The best way to get him to pay attention to you is jealousy."
Pyrrha: "J-Jealousy?"
Weiss: "Exactly! And for you to do a bit of acting."
Pyrrha: "Um... That's not one of my strengths."
Weiss: "N-No, you were pretty good in The Amazon Strikes!"
Pyrrha: stares "You think so?"
Weiss of course was lying her ass off. The Amazon Strikes did star Pyrrha, but Pyrrha was terrible. But Weiss was well versed in flattery.
Weiss: "Of course! You just have to have a date who can act like he's taking advantage of you! Get Arc to protect you, he takes a fall, you confess your feelings, and you two live happily forever after!"
Weiss: And Yang gets to suffer knowing her dolt broke up with her! It'll serve her right for implying my Neptune would cheat on me and being so obnoxious!
Pyrrha: "I-I um, I don't know-"
Yang laughed and hip bumped Jaune. He laughed and hip bumped her back. Pyrrha stared very intensely at this scene. Weiss grinned.
Weiss: "You were saying?"
Pyrrha: "... What do we do?" She sounded both resigned but determined.
Weiss: "Simple... Um..."
Weiss headed off, Pyrrha in tow. They got out onto the quad. She narrowed her eyes as she scanned through the available Hunters.
Weiss: Too stupid, too weak, too foolish-AHA!
She spottered Mercury Black lounging around. She strode up to him, pulled him up, and dragged him off.
Mercury: "Ah! Hey, what are you-?"
Weiss dragged him to the tree Pyrrha was waiting by. She turned to him with a smirk.
Weiss: "Mister Black, was it? You know Pyrrha Nikos, do you not?"
Mercury: "Uh, by reputation only-"
Weiss: "Good! You're going to take her out to the dance!"
Mercury: "I-What?!"
Pyrrha: "What?!"
Weiss: "Miss Nikos is trying to get the attention of her dimwitted partner, who is taking another girl out. You are to play the cad, to make him jealous, and make it look like you're trying to take advantage of her. You will lure Arc in, pretend to fall to his attack, and ensure Miss Nikos ends up with him."
Mercury: "I... Why in the hell would I want to do that?"
Weiss: "Because I will pay you 2000 lien to do it. Half now, half after the job is done."
Mercury: blinked rapidly "I... You're serious-?"
Weiss produced the lien and held it up. Mercury blinked twice, went through a mental calculation, and frowned.
Mercury: "... 5000 lien and I'll make it look extra good."
Weiss: "How extra good?"
Mercury: "I'll make it look like Arc can actually fight."
Pyrrha: "H-Hey, he really can-!"
Weiss: "Hmmm... Difficult. Are you sure you can manage it?"
Mercury: "You picked me for a reason."
Weiss: "True... It's because you seemed to have the temperament needed to truly take Miss Nikos out and make it believable."
Mercury: "Well, if I have that confidence, then clearly I'm worth the extra money, hm?"
Weiss: "Hmmmm... Very well. 5000 it is!"
Pyrrha: "W-Weiss-!"
Weiss: "Excellent! You two will start the operation now!" beams at Pyrrha "Don't worry! I'm sure he'll do just fine! And if he doesn't stick to the job, you can fold him in half!"
Mercury: "Hey! I'm a professional! If I'm given a job, I will complete it!"
Weiss: "You'd better!"
Kirei Kotomine on Yang x Blake
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A friend of mine wrote this on Reddit and it got taken down. So I have decided to share it.
Kirei Kotomine on Yang x Blake
I feel like Kirei Kotomine would say something along these lines with Yang x Blake, what do you think? At the end of the post is why Yang x Blake would never truly work based on realistic relationship dynamic/compatibility understanding.
"How fitting. Two broken creatures clinging to each other, not out of understanding, but desperation. Such is the romance: a sanctuary not of mutual admiration, but of shared wounds."
"Yang Xiao Long, once a creature of blazing spirit, now dims her own light so that Blake Belladonna might not be blinded by it. In this, she does not love Blake — she merely pities her. And in return, Blake does not cherish Yang — she merely depends upon her."
"Their bond is not one of equals, but of caretaker and invalid. One bleeds endlessly so that the other might breathe a little easier. Tell me, is that love? Or is it merely martyrdom in silk disguise?"
"It is a common misconception: to believe that shared pain alone is enough to sustain affection. True bonds are not forged from mutual wounds, but from the ability to stand beside one another without fear, without compromise, without shrinking oneself into a more palatable form."
"In striving to appear whole for Blake, Yang has carved herself hollow. In hiding her own scars, Blake ensures they will never heal. It is not a partnership they have built, but a mausoleum — a beautiful, stagnant grave where their true selves are entombed."
"Call it 'representation.' Call it 'hope.' I shall call it by its true name: despair clothed in the tattered remains of sentimentality."
The logical reasoning why Yang x Blake doesn't work and is unrealistic:
Regarding the ship though, in real life Yang x Blake would not last and would be plagued with issues until they broke up. Why? If one has an understanding of real relationship dynamics and compatibility, you would know Yang has many fundamental issues with Blake that would shatter the relationship. It's not opposites attracting, it's bad writing forcing a ship that could not last unless the characters were rewritten.
Yang must alter who she is to be with Blake, when you have to change who you are, you admit you're a mistake in being yourself. That's toxic and unhealthy. There is no situation where it's the right thing to do, to alter who you truly are for someone else. That's a false persona and admittance that you are wrong for being yourself.
Yang is emotionally direct and needs open, direct, constant communication not just verbally but physically. Constantly having to read the lines, hold back, question yourself, etc would lead yang to emotional erosion, emotional suppression, friction, etc. It's wrong to shrink yourself, to not be who you are to the fullest. Yang and Blake have different love languages and different forms of communication, Yang has not evolved as a person but became worse especially with the treatment towards Ruby which defies who she originally was.
She and Blake have lost their original individuality in my opinion. True growth doesn't mean abandoning your Essence, it means refining it. Yang has regressed, not progressed. Blake has always been emotionally elusive, and the writing bends the world to accommodate her style. In doing so, Yang is recontextualized not as her own person, but as a patient support system.
The romance should have elevated both. Instead, it reshapes Yang to fit Blake's comfort zone. That's not romantic growth — that's narrative submission. The "opposites attract" idea is often romanticized in fiction. But in real life, it only works when both partners adapt without losing their identity. That's not what happens here. Yang and Blake don't communicate the same way, don't process emotion the same way, have little in common, and don't seek love the same way. in real-world relationships, when one partner is constantly pulling and the other withdrawing, it creates chronic emotional dissonance.
Think of friendships if not romantic relationships, what friendship is healthy and thrives if it's one sided and relies on you to be someone you truly aren't? In romantic relationships, where you constantly are the one giving while having emotional and physical needs neglected? That, never lasts healthily.
Kirei Kotomine on Yang x Blake
I feel like Kirei Kotomine would say something along these lines with Yang x Blake, what do you think? At the end of the post is why Yang x Blake would never truly work based on realistic relationship dynamic/compatibility understanding.
"How fitting. Two broken creatures clinging to each other, not out of understanding, but desperation. Such is the romance: a sanctuary not of mutual admiration, but of shared wounds."
"Yang Xiao Long, once a creature of blazing spirit, now dims her own light so that Blake Belladonna might not be blinded by it. In this, she does not love Blake — she merely pities her. And in return, Blake does not cherish Yang — she merely depends upon her."
"Their bond is not one of equals, but of caretaker and invalid. One bleeds endlessly so that the other might breathe a little easier. Tell me, is that love? Or is it merely martyrdom in silk disguise?"
"It is a common misconception: to believe that shared pain alone is enough to sustain affection. True bonds are not forged from mutual wounds, but from the ability to stand beside one another without fear, without compromise, without shrinking oneself into a more palatable form."
"In striving to appear whole for Blake, Yang has carved herself hollow. In hiding her own scars, Blake ensures they will never heal. It is not a partnership they have built, but a mausoleum — a beautiful, stagnant grave where their true selves are entombed."
"Call it 'representation.' Call it 'hope.' I shall call it by its true name: despair clothed in the tattered remains of sentimentality."
The logical reasoning why Yang x Blake doesn't work and is unrealistic:
Regarding the ship though, in real life Yang x Blake would not last and would be plagued with issues until they broke up. Why? If one has an understanding of real relationship dynamics and compatibility, you would know Yang has many fundamental issues with Blake that would shatter the relationship. It's not opposites attracting, it's bad writing forcing a ship that could not last unless the characters were rewritten.
Yang must alter who she is to be with Blake, when you have to change who you are, you admit you're a mistake in being yourself. That's toxic and unhealthy. There is no situation where it's the right thing to do, to alter who you truly are for someone else. That's a false persona and admittance that you are wrong for being yourself.
Yang is emotionally direct and needs open, direct, constant communication not just verbally but physically. Constantly having to read the lines, hold back, question yourself, etc would lead yang to emotional erosion, emotional suppression, friction, etc. It's wrong to shrink yourself, to not be who you are to the fullest. Yang and Blake have different love languages and different forms of communication, Yang has not evolved as a person but became worse especially with the treatment towards Ruby which defies who she originally was.
She and Blake have lost their original individuality in my opinion. True growth doesn't mean abandoning your Essence, it means refining it. Yang has regressed, not progressed. Blake has always been emotionally elusive, and the writing bends the world to accommodate her style. In doing so, Yang is recontextualized not as her own person, but as a patient support system.
The romance should have elevated both. Instead, it reshapes Yang to fit Blake's comfort zone. That's not romantic growth — that's narrative submission. The "opposites attract" idea is often romanticized in fiction. But in real life, it only works when both partners adapt without losing their identity. That's not what happens here. Yang and Blake don't communicate the same way, don't process emotion the same way, have little in common, and don't seek love the same way. in real-world relationships, when one partner is constantly pulling and the other withdrawing, it creates chronic emotional dissonance.
Think of friendships if not romantic relationships, what friendship is healthy and thrives if it's one sided and relies on you to be someone you truly aren't? In romantic relationships, where you constantly are the one giving while having emotional and physical needs neglected? That, never lasts healthily.
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Poor delusional Weiss.
And Damn shame that got taken down cause goddamn was that peak.
And Damn shame that got taken down cause goddamn was that peak.
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I won't say you're wrong andrew, but I have seen opposites attract work. My own parents are an example, they were married for over 30 years before my father passed. However in that case it was the personalities complemented each other. An extrovert and an introvert. They shared interests, books and music. There is no chemistry like that with Blake and yang. Blake likes books, she is quiet, and incredibly difficult to communicate with. Yang is straightforward, in your face, and will communicate pretty directly. Yang wants someone who won't abandon her, Blake is an emotional coward. Opposites attract can work, but this is not one of those times.
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Yeah. Again, I watched through Volumes 7-9 and... Holy fuck. Rooster Teeth really put everything into pandering to the craziest, brokest, most intolerant part of the fanbase ever. They sacrificed everything just to pander to people who didn't buy shit. Between characters who never should have been together like that. Blake should have been trying to earn RWY's forgiveness, but noooo. "Persecuted minorities" don't have flaws, ugh.
Anyway, I do still like RWBY. I love the fanfic, the fanart, the... The porn, Ice Queendom, and many others. I like the fan series Evermorrow (and I pray, I PRAY they don't even try with Bumblebee. Just leave it the fuck alone, don't go there, just LEAVE IT ALONE. Don't try to make it work, just DON'T.) And I also pray that ViZ lets a Japanese studio reboot RWBY and what's left of CRWBY just dubs it into English with zero input on the story. I hope we get all this.
Because at this point, yes, intellectually, you COULD make Bumblebee happen in a fan series where Beacon didn't fall or in a RWBY reboot. You might even be able to make it good and believable. But there's way too much baggage attached to it and too many insane screeching fans. You do not want to appease or engage with them because they won't buy shit. Just ignore them and make a good show without this cancer.
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Anyway, let's not be negative. It's easy to do so but the reason the actual fandom survives is because of all the great fan content. So let's keep producing more of that.
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Fun idea courtesy of @UnknownAnon
Yang and Jaune go on a double date with Blake and Sun. Blake is actually trying to get past Adam. She is trying to be better.
Blake brings Yang as a buffer for Sun and Sun brings in Jaune to help him wingman Blake.
Jaune and Yang end up really hitting it off.
Sun tries to get Blake to be his gf and is hesitant still in spite of everything, but then sees a lovey-dovey Jaune and Yang walk by and she looks back on all Sun has done for her and...
Jaune+Yang: Putting all those tv couples to shame.
Blake: ...Fuck it. Yeah, I'll be your girlfriend.
Sun: BEST WINGMAN AND WINGWOMAN EVER!!!
Of course... Things are now rather tense between Yang, Pyrrha, and Ruby.
Weiss is glad that Jaune is no longer after her but is now irritated with Yang, Jaune, Blake and Sun being lovey dovey.
Nora drags Ren off to start dating too. And Yang and Jaune play wingman/woman for them, too...
Yang and Jaune go on a double date with Blake and Sun. Blake is actually trying to get past Adam. She is trying to be better.
Blake brings Yang as a buffer for Sun and Sun brings in Jaune to help him wingman Blake.
Jaune and Yang end up really hitting it off.
Sun tries to get Blake to be his gf and is hesitant still in spite of everything, but then sees a lovey-dovey Jaune and Yang walk by and she looks back on all Sun has done for her and...
Jaune+Yang: Putting all those tv couples to shame.
Blake: ...Fuck it. Yeah, I'll be your girlfriend.
Sun: BEST WINGMAN AND WINGWOMAN EVER!!!
Of course... Things are now rather tense between Yang, Pyrrha, and Ruby.
Weiss is glad that Jaune is no longer after her but is now irritated with Yang, Jaune, Blake and Sun being lovey dovey.
Nora drags Ren off to start dating too. And Yang and Jaune play wingman/woman for them, too...
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It is rather using on how well Sun and Blake work as a pairing. They're both flighty, but very different ways. Sun is lackadaisical, laid back and generally unbothered by things. Blake is an uptight bookworm. But because neither are very clingy people they work as a ship. They both give each other the room they need. No they both have a major failing in that they need to work on leadership. Sun bailed on his team and Blake should have taken lead of the White Fang and returned it to her parents dream.
Proposed Outline for the Vytal Festival Attack
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Using my fanon, here's a basic skeleton for how things would go in this timeline.
Lionheart provides Cinder with diplomatic and political connections that lets her pose as a lobbyist who makes connections with Vale Councilwoman Prunella Glocken, and Vale Defense Force Commander-in-Chief General Aldric Varnholt. For Glocken, Cinder uses a mixture of blackmail and bribery to get her to allow her fake company access to the computers that manage the CCTnet and the Vale Civil Defense Networks. She, Emerald, Mercury and Neon go in under disguise as technicians to put the virus in. You could have Cinder make an attack on the CCTnet Tower at Beacon to cover her tracks, but it should not be the method to upload the virus. This virus targets only Atlasian assets. Thus, stage two of the plan.
For Varnholt, Cinder uses a mixture of flattery and Lionheart's connections to get him to side against Ozpin and seek out more command. She gets him to reveal secrets of Vale's military and the city itself. For both Glocken and Varnholt, Cinder provides information on the Breach that implicates Ozpin as negligent and incompetent, which allows him to be pushed out and lose influence. Both Glocken and Varnholt were opposed to Ozpin anyway but Cinder cleverly uses this against them AND Ozpin. Glocken now has clout she can use for her next election and Varnholt has direct command over Vale's defense forces, he isn't being challenged by Ozpin anymore and he doesn't work well with Ironwood, which increases tensions.
Prior to the attack, the VDF gets an emergency on their sensor network. Signs of a massive Grimm assault on a nearby city, and there is also a communications blackout so nobody can know for sure. The fleet assets in the area along with anything else they can find head out, and it is kept quiet under Glocken's orders to not cause a panic that might affect the Vytal Festival. Varnholt insists that Atlas stay put around Vale, they can handle this. This weakens Vale's defenses and ensures that only Atlasian units are providing protection for Vale.
Naturally, the emergency is fake. Vale's sensors and defenses are compromised which allows the White Fang forces to get in close and to herd Grimm closer to critical weakpoints without being detected.
The death of Penny is televised as per the show, but Cinder uses White Fang propaganda with her own touch. It's used purely to rile up the crowd. This is when the defense systems go down across Vale.
The Atlasian fleet then goes beserk with all their forces, timed with the White Fang strikes and the Grimm surges. The Atlasian drones attack power plants, substations, and comm relays, as well as gates and any weakpoints in the walls to let in more Grimm.
The Grimm attack escalates and awakens/draws in more Grimm.
While this is going on, other White Fang cells spark civil wars in Mistral and Vacuo with Lionheart's help, which, combined with Watts' virus, causes global panic and chaos.
Atlas's forces are not ALL hacked mind you, but a lot are. And now they're in the middle of a shooting war between Mistral's various factions.
In Vale, the VDF races back to try and help, Varnholt leading the charge. Their forces aren't affected by the virus but they aren't as numerous or well armed as the Atlasian battleships. The Atlasian forces engage them in a massive aerial battle that causes heavy casualties on both sides and is made worse by the Grimm.
Atlas begins to withdraws, but things are so confused many units in the VDF continue to fight them while also trying to help the civilians and ground forces. General Varnholt personally takes command of the Vale forces and leads them in battle to try and save civilians, but he falls. He does gain some redemption.
Councilwoman Prunella Glocken gets a rather personal death delivered by Cinder: She was at Vytal to preside over things and rub her success in Ozpin's face. She is subsequently found by Cinder. She pleads for her life and Cinder commands a number of Beowulves to tear the woman apart.
Jaune in this case landed, joined a few students, and tried to fight his way to the tower to help Pyrrha, but finding the injured Yang and the terrified Blake, and given the overwhelming forces arrayed against them, he's forced to retreat with his friends. Blake still runs off while Jaune, Nora, Ren and a few others get Yang to an evacuation shuttle.
Pyrrha does try to fight Cinder but in this case, she is trying to fight a delaying action so that Jaune can get reinforcements (though she still kisses him and confesses her feelings before launching him out of there). She's actually doing a good job until Cinder cheats and summons the Dragon. Then Pyrrha gets her ass kicked. Ruby comes in earlier to try and save Pyrrha, but is getting her ass whooped until Pyrrha takes a killshot meant for her. Pyrrha dies, Ruby unleashes the Silver Eyes and blacks out, Cinder is injured while the Dragon is stoned.
Had Ruby been able to unleash her Silver Eyes earlier, the defenders might have had a chance. But the sheer devastation means the majority of the VDF forces have to withdraw to a safer distance to regroup.
This version of Vale's fall would accomplish a number of Cinder and Salem's goals:
1: Much of Vale's military has been crippled and their government has been effectively beheaded.
2: Massive destruction caused by Grimm, White Fang and Atlas means they are in a bad way.
3: Any coordination between Atlas and Vale is going to be hampered by how many losses both sides took and Mistral and Vacuo's conflicts.
4: Pinning the blame on the White Fang means any organized resistance will be targeting Faunus and Mengarie for retaliation, which will make things even worse.
5: Get the Relic, get the Maiden powers, kill Ozpin.
Because if you want to weaken all the Kingdoms of Man and Faunus so that it's easier for Salem to do her work, you want them to start shooting at one another in open warfare.
What do you think?
Lionheart provides Cinder with diplomatic and political connections that lets her pose as a lobbyist who makes connections with Vale Councilwoman Prunella Glocken, and Vale Defense Force Commander-in-Chief General Aldric Varnholt. For Glocken, Cinder uses a mixture of blackmail and bribery to get her to allow her fake company access to the computers that manage the CCTnet and the Vale Civil Defense Networks. She, Emerald, Mercury and Neon go in under disguise as technicians to put the virus in. You could have Cinder make an attack on the CCTnet Tower at Beacon to cover her tracks, but it should not be the method to upload the virus. This virus targets only Atlasian assets. Thus, stage two of the plan.
For Varnholt, Cinder uses a mixture of flattery and Lionheart's connections to get him to side against Ozpin and seek out more command. She gets him to reveal secrets of Vale's military and the city itself. For both Glocken and Varnholt, Cinder provides information on the Breach that implicates Ozpin as negligent and incompetent, which allows him to be pushed out and lose influence. Both Glocken and Varnholt were opposed to Ozpin anyway but Cinder cleverly uses this against them AND Ozpin. Glocken now has clout she can use for her next election and Varnholt has direct command over Vale's defense forces, he isn't being challenged by Ozpin anymore and he doesn't work well with Ironwood, which increases tensions.
Prior to the attack, the VDF gets an emergency on their sensor network. Signs of a massive Grimm assault on a nearby city, and there is also a communications blackout so nobody can know for sure. The fleet assets in the area along with anything else they can find head out, and it is kept quiet under Glocken's orders to not cause a panic that might affect the Vytal Festival. Varnholt insists that Atlas stay put around Vale, they can handle this. This weakens Vale's defenses and ensures that only Atlasian units are providing protection for Vale.
Naturally, the emergency is fake. Vale's sensors and defenses are compromised which allows the White Fang forces to get in close and to herd Grimm closer to critical weakpoints without being detected.
The death of Penny is televised as per the show, but Cinder uses White Fang propaganda with her own touch. It's used purely to rile up the crowd. This is when the defense systems go down across Vale.
The Atlasian fleet then goes beserk with all their forces, timed with the White Fang strikes and the Grimm surges. The Atlasian drones attack power plants, substations, and comm relays, as well as gates and any weakpoints in the walls to let in more Grimm.
The Grimm attack escalates and awakens/draws in more Grimm.
While this is going on, other White Fang cells spark civil wars in Mistral and Vacuo with Lionheart's help, which, combined with Watts' virus, causes global panic and chaos.
Atlas's forces are not ALL hacked mind you, but a lot are. And now they're in the middle of a shooting war between Mistral's various factions.
In Vale, the VDF races back to try and help, Varnholt leading the charge. Their forces aren't affected by the virus but they aren't as numerous or well armed as the Atlasian battleships. The Atlasian forces engage them in a massive aerial battle that causes heavy casualties on both sides and is made worse by the Grimm.
Atlas begins to withdraws, but things are so confused many units in the VDF continue to fight them while also trying to help the civilians and ground forces. General Varnholt personally takes command of the Vale forces and leads them in battle to try and save civilians, but he falls. He does gain some redemption.
Councilwoman Prunella Glocken gets a rather personal death delivered by Cinder: She was at Vytal to preside over things and rub her success in Ozpin's face. She is subsequently found by Cinder. She pleads for her life and Cinder commands a number of Beowulves to tear the woman apart.
Jaune in this case landed, joined a few students, and tried to fight his way to the tower to help Pyrrha, but finding the injured Yang and the terrified Blake, and given the overwhelming forces arrayed against them, he's forced to retreat with his friends. Blake still runs off while Jaune, Nora, Ren and a few others get Yang to an evacuation shuttle.
Pyrrha does try to fight Cinder but in this case, she is trying to fight a delaying action so that Jaune can get reinforcements (though she still kisses him and confesses her feelings before launching him out of there). She's actually doing a good job until Cinder cheats and summons the Dragon. Then Pyrrha gets her ass kicked. Ruby comes in earlier to try and save Pyrrha, but is getting her ass whooped until Pyrrha takes a killshot meant for her. Pyrrha dies, Ruby unleashes the Silver Eyes and blacks out, Cinder is injured while the Dragon is stoned.
Had Ruby been able to unleash her Silver Eyes earlier, the defenders might have had a chance. But the sheer devastation means the majority of the VDF forces have to withdraw to a safer distance to regroup.
This version of Vale's fall would accomplish a number of Cinder and Salem's goals:
1: Much of Vale's military has been crippled and their government has been effectively beheaded.
2: Massive destruction caused by Grimm, White Fang and Atlas means they are in a bad way.
3: Any coordination between Atlas and Vale is going to be hampered by how many losses both sides took and Mistral and Vacuo's conflicts.
4: Pinning the blame on the White Fang means any organized resistance will be targeting Faunus and Mengarie for retaliation, which will make things even worse.
5: Get the Relic, get the Maiden powers, kill Ozpin.
Because if you want to weaken all the Kingdoms of Man and Faunus so that it's easier for Salem to do her work, you want them to start shooting at one another in open warfare.
What do you think?
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Are we sure your friend isn't Kirei reincarnated to the real world? Because this is perfectly accurate.
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So I had a way to fix some issues with the final fight between Cinder and Pyrrha. You would need more (well actually ANY) character moments between Ruby and Pyrrha beforehand to make it really work so let's assume there were. Enough for them to really be friends.
In short: Ruby wasn't too late. She arrived and fought Cinder to protect Pyrrha who was Aura broken. But she got her ass kicked by Cinder. Cinder was about to deliver a finishing blow to Ruby... When Pyrrha threw herself in front of Ruby and took the blast. Pyrrha died saving Ruby. Cue the Silver Eyes blast. Then Ruby passes out.
Thoughts?
In short: Ruby wasn't too late. She arrived and fought Cinder to protect Pyrrha who was Aura broken. But she got her ass kicked by Cinder. Cinder was about to deliver a finishing blow to Ruby... When Pyrrha threw herself in front of Ruby and took the blast. Pyrrha died saving Ruby. Cue the Silver Eyes blast. Then Ruby passes out.
Thoughts?
NightDranzer
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...So who was aware that Pyrrha canonically has a beautiful singing voice?
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ThunderBasilisk
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Would have been a lot better than the bullshit we got
White Knight: "Mortal Enemies"
AndrewJTalon
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Weiss Schnee was, for once, alone in the RWBY dormroom. She was doing some studying, completing an essay on Dust formations and how they could be used tactically, when her Scroll broke the quiet with a loud hum. She checked the screen. It was flashing with a name that made her stomach twist: Jacques Schnee.
She hesitated, her ice-blue eyes narrowing, before answering with a practiced, neutral tone. The call was rare—her father seldom reached out—and never pleasant, but today's conversation would veer into the utterly bizarre.
"Father," she greeted neutrally.
"Weiss," Jacques's voice crackled through, cold and commanding, "I want to know one thing. Is there a Jaune Arc at your school?"
Weiss's brow furrowed, her voice cautious. "Yesss…?"
"Of the Radian Arcs?" Jacques pressed, his tone sharp. "Uses a sword called Crocea Mors?"
Weiss blinked, her confusion deepening. "I… Think so?"
"Good," Jacques said, his voice tightening with disdain. "I want you to steer clear of him. Have nothing to do with him at all!"
Weiss's grip on her Scroll tightened, her voice rising with bewilderment. "I—Wait, what? Why?"
"The Arcs are our family enemies," Jacques spat, his words dripping with venom.
Weiss blinked rapidly.
"They are?" She asked.
"Yes," Jacques nodded, "In my youth, this-this Jaune's father tried to woo your mother! While he was bodyguarding her no less! He was shameless! Thankfully, he failed, but he insulted me to my face many times! Even physically assaulted me!"
Weiss stared in astonishment. That her father was even admitting to something like that was… Huge. And that said man had gotten away with crossing Jacques Schnee was even more amazing. After all, Jaune didn't speak of his father in the past tense.
"The family has further thwarted my efforts to acquire Dust mines in North Sanus! His great-grandmother insulted me at a town meeting and mocked my manhood! She convinced the local council to reject my business offer! They are persona non grata to me, and should be to you, too!"
Weiss's jaw dropped, her voice flat with disbelief.
"…Really?"
Some little old lady did that?! The mystery about the Arcs grew… As did Weiss' unintentional admiration for them.
"Yes!" Jacques snapped. "In addition, his mother is a real…" He hesitated in using a slur, his eyes darting to and fro. While Weiss wouldn't call it fear, he was… Reluctant to bad mouth the woman. Someone who could make her father do that was rare.
"… She refused to become our exclusive physician. She refused ME. They are not to be trusted or associated with. Understood?"
Weiss's lips twitched, suppressing a smirk, her voice obedient but laced with irony.
"Yes, Father."
"Good," Jacques said, his tone final. "Remember: Nothing to do with that boy at all!"
"Of course, Father!" Weiss said, her voice overly sweet, which as usual Jacques took no heed of.
The call ended, and Weiss stared at her Scroll, her mind racing. The sheer pettiness of her father's vendetta was almost laughable, and the idea of Jaune Arc—clumsy, earnest, infuriatingly persistent Jaune—as a family nemesis was absurd. Yet, a spark of defiance flared in her chest, and her lips curling into a sly smile.
Perhaps it was because of the dolts she was surrounded with. Perhaps it was after the disappointment she had suffered with Neptune and Jaune's earnest efforts to be her friend.
Perhaps it was just the thought of her father suffering a heart attack, but Weiss Schnee… Had an idea.
A wonderful idea.
A wonderful, awful idea…
- - -
Later, in Beacon's courtyard, Jaune Arc was polishing Crocea Mors. He had to agree with Ruby: There was something therapeutic about weapons maintenance out in the bright sunshine.
So engrossed in this, he didn't notice when Weiss marched up, her white combat skirt swishing, her expression a mix of determination and mischief. He looked up, his blue eyes wary, his hoodie slightly askew.
"Hm? Oh, hey, Weiss," Jaune said, rubbing his neck. It had been weeks since the dance and he had been making an effort to be her friend rather than her suitor.
"Um, what can I do for you-?"
"Apparently, our families are mortal enemies," Weiss interrupted, her voice crisp, her arms crossed.
Jaune blinked, his jaw dropping. "…What? They are?"
"Yes!" Weiss said, her tone almost gleeful. "My father truly hates your family! Entirely! And wants me to have nothing to do with you!"
Oh great, Jaune mentally groaned, No wonder she wanted nothing to do with me! I mean, even more than in general!
Jaune's brow furrowed, his voice hesitant.
"Well… I mean, if you want, I'll just—"
"So you're taking me out on a date Friday night," Weiss declared, her eyes glinting with glee.
Jaune's brain stalled, his voice a stammer.
"…I… Am?"
"Yes, you are," Weiss said, her smile sharp, daring him to argue.
"Even though our families are supposedly mortal enemies?" Jaune asked, his confusion deepening.
"Yep!" Weiss said, her voice bright, her rebellion against Jacques fueling her resolve.
Jaune stared, his voice slow, as if testing reality for any faults that might lead to a total collapse.
"…Okay?"
Weiss nodded, turning on her heel, her voice firm but playful.
"Dress nice. Bring flowers." She strode off, her ponytail bouncing, a triumphant smile spreading across her face.
Jaune sat frozen, Crocea Mors forgotten in his hands, his voice a bewildered mutter.
"…What the hell just happened?"
She hesitated, her ice-blue eyes narrowing, before answering with a practiced, neutral tone. The call was rare—her father seldom reached out—and never pleasant, but today's conversation would veer into the utterly bizarre.
"Father," she greeted neutrally.
"Weiss," Jacques's voice crackled through, cold and commanding, "I want to know one thing. Is there a Jaune Arc at your school?"
Weiss's brow furrowed, her voice cautious. "Yesss…?"
"Of the Radian Arcs?" Jacques pressed, his tone sharp. "Uses a sword called Crocea Mors?"
Weiss blinked, her confusion deepening. "I… Think so?"
"Good," Jacques said, his voice tightening with disdain. "I want you to steer clear of him. Have nothing to do with him at all!"
Weiss's grip on her Scroll tightened, her voice rising with bewilderment. "I—Wait, what? Why?"
"The Arcs are our family enemies," Jacques spat, his words dripping with venom.
Weiss blinked rapidly.
"They are?" She asked.
"Yes," Jacques nodded, "In my youth, this-this Jaune's father tried to woo your mother! While he was bodyguarding her no less! He was shameless! Thankfully, he failed, but he insulted me to my face many times! Even physically assaulted me!"
Weiss stared in astonishment. That her father was even admitting to something like that was… Huge. And that said man had gotten away with crossing Jacques Schnee was even more amazing. After all, Jaune didn't speak of his father in the past tense.
"The family has further thwarted my efforts to acquire Dust mines in North Sanus! His great-grandmother insulted me at a town meeting and mocked my manhood! She convinced the local council to reject my business offer! They are persona non grata to me, and should be to you, too!"
Weiss's jaw dropped, her voice flat with disbelief.
"…Really?"
Some little old lady did that?! The mystery about the Arcs grew… As did Weiss' unintentional admiration for them.
"Yes!" Jacques snapped. "In addition, his mother is a real…" He hesitated in using a slur, his eyes darting to and fro. While Weiss wouldn't call it fear, he was… Reluctant to bad mouth the woman. Someone who could make her father do that was rare.
"… She refused to become our exclusive physician. She refused ME. They are not to be trusted or associated with. Understood?"
Weiss's lips twitched, suppressing a smirk, her voice obedient but laced with irony.
"Yes, Father."
"Good," Jacques said, his tone final. "Remember: Nothing to do with that boy at all!"
"Of course, Father!" Weiss said, her voice overly sweet, which as usual Jacques took no heed of.
The call ended, and Weiss stared at her Scroll, her mind racing. The sheer pettiness of her father's vendetta was almost laughable, and the idea of Jaune Arc—clumsy, earnest, infuriatingly persistent Jaune—as a family nemesis was absurd. Yet, a spark of defiance flared in her chest, and her lips curling into a sly smile.
Perhaps it was because of the dolts she was surrounded with. Perhaps it was after the disappointment she had suffered with Neptune and Jaune's earnest efforts to be her friend.
Perhaps it was just the thought of her father suffering a heart attack, but Weiss Schnee… Had an idea.
A wonderful idea.
A wonderful, awful idea…
- - -
Later, in Beacon's courtyard, Jaune Arc was polishing Crocea Mors. He had to agree with Ruby: There was something therapeutic about weapons maintenance out in the bright sunshine.
So engrossed in this, he didn't notice when Weiss marched up, her white combat skirt swishing, her expression a mix of determination and mischief. He looked up, his blue eyes wary, his hoodie slightly askew.
"Hm? Oh, hey, Weiss," Jaune said, rubbing his neck. It had been weeks since the dance and he had been making an effort to be her friend rather than her suitor.
"Um, what can I do for you-?"
"Apparently, our families are mortal enemies," Weiss interrupted, her voice crisp, her arms crossed.
Jaune blinked, his jaw dropping. "…What? They are?"
"Yes!" Weiss said, her tone almost gleeful. "My father truly hates your family! Entirely! And wants me to have nothing to do with you!"
Oh great, Jaune mentally groaned, No wonder she wanted nothing to do with me! I mean, even more than in general!
Jaune's brow furrowed, his voice hesitant.
"Well… I mean, if you want, I'll just—"
"So you're taking me out on a date Friday night," Weiss declared, her eyes glinting with glee.
Jaune's brain stalled, his voice a stammer.
"…I… Am?"
"Yes, you are," Weiss said, her smile sharp, daring him to argue.
"Even though our families are supposedly mortal enemies?" Jaune asked, his confusion deepening.
"Yep!" Weiss said, her voice bright, her rebellion against Jacques fueling her resolve.
Jaune stared, his voice slow, as if testing reality for any faults that might lead to a total collapse.
"…Okay?"
Weiss nodded, turning on her heel, her voice firm but playful.
"Dress nice. Bring flowers." She strode off, her ponytail bouncing, a triumphant smile spreading across her face.
Jaune sat frozen, Crocea Mors forgotten in his hands, his voice a bewildered mutter.
"…What the hell just happened?"
ThunderBasilisk
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Best way to get a kids to do something is tell them they can't do it
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AndrewJTalon
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Further expanding on Pyrrha and Ruby fighting Cinder together.
Ruby actually experiences failure. I mean actual failure, I mean Cinder has her dead to rights and her optimism and heroic naivete is crushed in front of her. Pyrrha saves her by sacrificing herself. Now we are there with both Ruby AND Jaune in hating Cinder personally. It is far less satisfying for Ruby to show up when Pyrrha's getting dusted and her to go "NOOOO!" and then Laser Silver Eyes.
Here, Ruby tries, throws herself in as she always does. She gets her ass beat, she is helpless after Cinder basically curbstomps her with a few moves. Cinder is gloating and mocking her. Maybe even brings up her mom before she prepares to blow her away. Pyrrha is able to save at least one person (And seriously, her Messianic complex? Where was that, girl was being pressured into becoming a Maiden and she wasn't sure if she should do it. She went to fight Cinder alone because she didn't want Jaune to die, that was it. It was stupid of her to go and fight on her own but the plot forced her into it so yeah). And then Pyrrha dies right in front of Ruby. She failed to help her friend, she failed to do anything right... And her power is unleashed.
But it's a hollow victory. Because Pyrrha is still dead and she still died to save Ruby and that's it. She didn't save anything else, but she still did better than Ruby... Who saved no one.
Ruby and Jaune both feel guilt and it reflects on their characters. In Jaune's case, being too weak to even be allowed to try and help Pyrrha. In Ruby's case, her fantasies of being a hero are shattered. And you get a visceral, defining moment for them both.
Ruby actually experiences failure. I mean actual failure, I mean Cinder has her dead to rights and her optimism and heroic naivete is crushed in front of her. Pyrrha saves her by sacrificing herself. Now we are there with both Ruby AND Jaune in hating Cinder personally. It is far less satisfying for Ruby to show up when Pyrrha's getting dusted and her to go "NOOOO!" and then Laser Silver Eyes.
Here, Ruby tries, throws herself in as she always does. She gets her ass beat, she is helpless after Cinder basically curbstomps her with a few moves. Cinder is gloating and mocking her. Maybe even brings up her mom before she prepares to blow her away. Pyrrha is able to save at least one person (And seriously, her Messianic complex? Where was that, girl was being pressured into becoming a Maiden and she wasn't sure if she should do it. She went to fight Cinder alone because she didn't want Jaune to die, that was it. It was stupid of her to go and fight on her own but the plot forced her into it so yeah). And then Pyrrha dies right in front of Ruby. She failed to help her friend, she failed to do anything right... And her power is unleashed.
But it's a hollow victory. Because Pyrrha is still dead and she still died to save Ruby and that's it. She didn't save anything else, but she still did better than Ruby... Who saved no one.
Ruby and Jaune both feel guilt and it reflects on their characters. In Jaune's case, being too weak to even be allowed to try and help Pyrrha. In Ruby's case, her fantasies of being a hero are shattered. And you get a visceral, defining moment for them both.