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[GraveyardShift]

CRITICAL UPDATE

The madlad is back with an update to an old classic.

And no your ears do not deceive you about the soundtrack midway through which is why I am directing people to it. It IS relevant.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Cv8DbygpA

 

[zMADLAXz]

CRITICAL UPDATE

The madlad is back with an update to an old classic.

And no your ears do not deceive you about the soundtrack midway through which is why I am directing people to it. It IS relevant.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Cv8DbygpA

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I was surprised when he used Red like roses. Especially when the yellow Dragon guy(I forgot his name) went on the offensive

 

[zMADLAXz]

Last post.

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Grave, I wanna let you know, that Jacques Chud will forever remain in the hearts of my discord connections.

Thank you for your service Sir.

 

[Gur40]

Sienna though she could guide Adam but Ghira and Kali knew he would either live as a protector or monster, black and white insanity at it's finest

Spoiler: Adam pov

like Buddy from the Incredibles man remembers things differently then how they happened, only wish Tyrian could have deconstructed him

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wrong target buddy

Spoiler: from horror to comedy

Vale they don't even realise a killer was after them, Mistral they're reacting to Qrow cooking and Atlas they're investigating Tyrian who does not appreciate competition

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i think they were friends

Spoiler: psycopath and sociopath

kinda like Hisoka and illumi from HxH

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Pyrrha x Jaune Comic collection

Spoiler: just fun

some fan comic some offical

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AU? Cosplay or Parrallel world?

Spoiler: FF XVI

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Early RWBY

Spoiler: plots

honestly cared more about the character arcs then the lore early on an just wanted monster hunter high school shenanigans were class could do the world building but NOO had to go full grim dark into stupid
but the game revealing how BROKEN Jaune semblance is

Spoiler: Trained Jaune

MariusVibius • 3y ago
Jaune: I just wish I had some kind of range technique...

Blake: You have a lot of aura, why don't you try aura slashes?

Jaune: Aura what?

Blake: Aura slashes? You know, you cut with your weapon and in travels in the air?

Yang: Blake, what are you talking about?

Blake: What? I did it against the paladin!

Ruby: No way! I would remember something cool like that!

Weiss: You must have dream it.

Blake: But... but...

Meanwhile

Nora: hey Ren! Why is it you don't use those aura techniques anymore?

Ren: Aura what?

Solbuster • 3y ago • Edited 3y ago

Blake: But... I did use it! Right after you used Time Dilation on me, Weiss!

Weiss: Time what?

Blake: You can't be serious. That one glyph that brings you up to the incredible speed?

Weiss: Doesn't ring a bell

Yang: Are you sure you didn't make it up?

Ruby: Yeah, besides if Weiss had something like that, why wouldn't she use it? It'd be such useful skill

Blake.exe stopped working

omin44 • 3y ago
jaune pats her shoulder in sympathy

Jaune: I understand your pain, ren doesn't do the aura techniques that makes Grimm's heads explode and Nora's semblance has become a deus ex machina instead of incorporating it into her fighting style.

Weiss: what are you two talking about? We've never been able to any of that.

Jaune: ignoring RWY do you think you can teach me?

Blake: I can but I'm a bit rusty.

MariusVibius • 3y ago
Jaune: Rusty... Really, Blake?

Yang with a smile: I am proud of you, babe

omin44 • 3y ago
Blake: …oh brother gods. covers her face in embarrassment I don't mean it like that, I meant it was a long time since I use the move and I might not be as good at it anymore.

Ren and ACE OPS didn't try to teach the guy that he they just taught to have LITERAL infinite Aura the head exploding punches?

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Real Crime Lords would have shut down Cinder and Adam easy

Spoiler: real bum

if Junior had reported to the Spiders the shit Roman had been doing before he was caught and the Neo was still loose the Fall wouldn't have happened because in the boardgame and The Grimm Campaign it;s confirmed the criminal underworld is aware magic is real and about the grimm cult ie Salem faction and that the headmasters are all working together aka the circle aka Ozluminati so what if?

 

[zMADLAXz]

and ACE OPS didn't try to teach the guy that he they just taught to have LITERAL infinite Aura the head exploding punches?

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Vine did say to try and Extend his Aura.

And he ended up dead.

Hmmmmmm, I feel as though there is a connection between the facts.

 

[GraveyardShift]

I don't.

He literally sealed himself inside with the bomb when it exploded when he could have very easily just done it outside, achieved the same effect, and lived.

And less we forget, even THAT would not have been necessary if Harriet didn't have a Boondocks 'Woman' moment and went off the rails with a WMD intending to use it for active line combat rather than the whale as was originally planned.

 

[digcat]

Everything i know about her makes me wonder why they would trust her with any kind of power.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

God, the more you watch it the more stupid shit you find. It's so demoralizing.

Honestly I just want to make my own RWBY novel series that's changed just enough to not get sued and using all this worldbuilding.

 

[GraveyardShift]

Speaking of, Temporal Waifu War has been rescued and moved to its new home.

As a result, I'mma sleep first and then get to work on the conclusion.

 

[zMADLAXz]

I don't.

He literally sealed himself inside with the bomb when it exploded when he could have very easily just done it outside, achieved the same effect, and lived.

And less we forget, even THAT would not have been necessary if Harriet didn't have a Boondocks 'Woman' moment and went off the rails with a WMD intending to use it for active line combat rather than the whale as was originally planned.

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Ummm I was more joking that anyone who tries and gives rational advice ends up incapacitated or dead.

 

[Sliverhero]

God, the more you watch it the more stupid shit you find. It's so demoralizing.

Honestly I just want to make my own RWBY novel series that's changed just enough to not get sued and using all this worldbuilding.

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gender flip the cast or swap weapons and hair colour.

 

[GraveyardShift]

The subject of Yang being protective of Ruby is oft talked about and used quite a bit in fiction.

But what few people DON'T often talk about is the 'protective little sibling'.

The closest we've gotten so far is Homophobic Ruby but what if we crank this up a level?

Yang was very hurt that Blake left her in volume 3. Ruby was a direct witness to how hurt and broken she was.

So when Blake returns in volume five... how terrifying does Ruby become to Blake in this moment?

Ruby standing over Blake who was dragged before her by the remnants of JNR. A dark scowl on her face. "You hurt... my sister... in what world do you think I would give your relationship MY blessing BLAKE?"

 

[digcat]

I could see it after all not only was Yang hurt by her running away but she lost a arm to protect her. It would take along time for Ruby to trust her again.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

The subject of Yang being protective of Ruby is oft talked about and used quite a bit in fiction.

But what few people DON'T often talk about is the 'protective little sibling'.

The closest we've gotten so far is Homophobic Ruby but what if we crank this up a level?

Yang was very hurt that Blake left her in volume 3. Ruby was a direct witness to how hurt and broken she was.

So when Blake returns in volume five... how terrifying does Ruby become to Blake in this moment?

Ruby standing over Blake who was dragged before her by the remnants of JNR. A dark scowl on her face. "You hurt... my sister... in what world do you think I would give your relationship MY blessing BLAKE?"

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Hell, she invites Sun along on the trip and makes it clear to Blake she has to earn her trust back. Period.

It should have been Yang and Blake slowly learning to trust eachother again AS FRIENDS. But no, homosexual exceptionalism all the way.

Why do you think I go with Yang getting hacked by Watts to explain why she became so unlike herself?

At least Yang can have an excuse for how she acted. Blake has no such luxury.

 

[Frankly Tired]

Strawberry Maintenance
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It's Weapon Maintenance Day in Beacon!

All students who pass examination are exempt from their next class (Combat Class is Mandatory)
As a bonus, Students who pass are allowed 1 free Strawberry Milkshake in the courtyard.

Please thank Head Chef Boid R. Tea for providing the Milkshakes.
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Ruby is having a crisis.

as her code as an Engineer dictates, she MUST do a 110% thorough cleaning of Crescent Rose!
That has always taken 12 hours of the day...

...But Strawberry Milkshake...

No!
She must persevere!
Her baby must be polished and oiled to perfection!
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All the Cold Weapon students got their milkshakes first.

Jaune lords it over Ruby.

She may have "accidentally" fired off a round into his milkshake, exploding the contents into his face.

Half of the exploded contents landed on Crescent's Inner workings.

Ruby has to start over...
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Pyrrha tried to offer a Split Straw couples milkshake, but fumbled and drank from both ends when Jaune asked why she had one.

She drank too fast in her panic, and choked.

Jaune pats her back as she coughs up strawberries.

physical contact!

it's a win.
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Nora spilt her Couples Not-Together Together, but Together Milkshake.

Ren offers to share his normal milkshake.

He even offered to use the Split straw as a way to share.

Nora drinks it all in a panic.

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Yang doesn't like strawberries, planned to save it for Ruby.

but someone touched her hair by accident as they were both leaving, and it melted in her hand.

"I'm sure Strawberry milk is just as fine," She stares at the semi boiling mass in her surprisingly durable cup, "Ruby probably can't even tell the difference."

Unfortunately, she placed it down when she was called to do something

Someone saw a melted milkshake, and dumped it.
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Despite her Stereotypes demanding that milk must be consumed.

Blake is lactose intolerant.
Also she's allergic to strawberries.

But the milk.
It's calling to her.

And so were the paramedics.
As she lies there, foaming at the mouth.
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Weiss wasn't much of a fan of Milkshakes.
She instead wanted Strawberry ice cream.

So she froze it.

Happily, she took a bite.

Oh right.

She hates strawberries.

Disgusted, she left the Surprisingly Durable Cup on Ruby's desk as she was working.
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Well...

It had some ice chunks in it (Weiss how?)

But after 16 hours, it did melt into a decent, milkshake like, consistency.

*Crunch*

Could do without the frozen strawberries though.
Why are the stems still on them? (Weiss how?)

 

[Frankly Tired]

Ironwood Takes a Vacation
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Prompt:
James Ironwood takes a vacation. He has no idea where to even start, but Qrow and Taiyang are there to help!

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James placed a hand on the last STRQ member's shoulders.

"Qrow, Mr. Xiao Long, I have experienced many new and wild things this past few weeks. You two have allowed me to see many new sights, and try new experiences. And I just have to say."

He frowned, gripping their shoulders tightly.

"I am never going on another vacation ever again. If it was legal, I would never even have a day off. I won't ever spend the 15-30 minutes of a lunch break, I will instead eat as I work. hoping that, by some miracle, I choke on my food and perish, so that I will never have to remember the things you two absolute deranged lunatics put me through. The very thought of a break is causing me Physical, Mental, and Spiritual Pain. I can feel my very Aura drain as I am forced to picture what has transpired."

with his bullhead arriving, he boarded, before it departed he turned to look at them once last time.

"Never invite me to do anything with you two ever again."

The remainder of Team STRQ watched as the Atlesian Headmaster left.

Qrow huffed, "Ungrateful much?"
Tai nodded, "Totally."

 

[Frankly Tired]

Jaune, Penny and Ruby's First Date
(This will see an update)
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Prompt:
Penny decides she's going to experience dating. So she selects Ruby and Jaune as her first partners. How does it go?
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J: "Wait both of us at the same time?"
P: "Yes! Double the experience!"
J: "Penny that's not how that-"

R:"Hold that thought Penny!"
P:"Okay!"

"Jaune, let her have this. Besides with another one here, we can stop her from going too far, too fast."
"Huh?"
"Do you really want to experience Penny rubbing your leg under a table?"
"Wh-what?!"
"Penny has a habit of applying everything she learns at the same time, it's why I banned her from helping me with doing maintenance on Crescent Rose."
She sighed.
"So much oil, polish, and paint..."

"So she might..."
"On the first date? Probably."
.
.
*Fearful shiver*
.
.
"Ruby, we're going on a date with Penny together."
"For safety?"
"For safety."

 

[emileano154]

Blake is lactose intolerant.
Also she's allergic to strawberries.

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well that is not going to be fun

 

[GraveyardShift]

Didn't you have that other Alternate Universe Theater @Frankly Tired where Blake ate the Milkshake?

Is this a callback?

 

[Sift Green]

A series of posts combined into one discussing what Summer Rose being turned into a Hound-style Grimm would actually entail, and a bit of the narrative role The Hound and its ilk could play in the story.


Back when The Hound was first introduced and then revealed to have a Silver Eyed Faunus trapped inside of them the fandom ran rampant with speculation that Salem used Summer Rose as the core of a Hound. There was then speculation that this could be a way to bring Summer back into the narrative, but said speculation rarely went beyond "This is a way for Ruby and Yang to get their mom back, Happy Ending!"

Those surface level speculations either ignored or glossed over the fact that the Silver Eyed Faunus was seriously screwed up when we got a clear glimpse of him beneath the Grimm. As the wiki accurately describes:

"He was horribly scarred, his face warped and contorted, resembling a severe burn. His right eye was covered by a vein-like mass of white flesh, which faded and extended beyond his eye. White boils bubbled in patches of his skin, and he appeared to have been rotting, as pieces of torn skin exposed his muscle. Black liquids leaked from his remaining eye and ears. Beneath the Grimm mass, it appears the man's flesh had since withered away as his arm had been reduced to its skeleton and blackened."

On top of that the Silver Eyed Faunus' brief exposure hinted at his mind being pretty far gone, as he had basically no reaction to the Grimm flesh around his head getting obliterated, simply chanting The Hound's current objective while stumbling forward trying to achieve said objective.


So with all of that in mind let's consider what Summer being made into the core of a Hound or some other unique Grimm would actually look like.



To start off with, Summer probably would have been the core of whatever Grimm Salem stuck her in for a long time. The most likely timeframe of Summer getting turned into a Grimm core would be around the time of the disaster of a mission that ended with her presumed dead; so while it'd be possible that Salem could have had Summer trapped in some kind of suspended animation to experiment with later it's more likely that Summer's been a Grimm core for well over a decade, with the second decade nearing completion.

Now we have no idea how long the Silver Eyed Faunus had been the core of The Hound, but with the amount of time Summer would have been a Grimm core it'd be hard to justify her being in significantly better shape than him. This presents us with two possibilities; either she still has enough of head, torso and vital organs to survive being removed from the Grimm she's the core of, or she doesn't.


The or she doesn't is the faster idea to explore. This is basically just an angst fight where the happiest outcome is Ruby and/or Yang putting their mother out of her misery. This idea has some merit for exploring aspects of Ruby and Yang's personalities, and what their friends would do to support them after such a harrowing experience, but if your story keeps most of the traumatic events of the original show then the idea looses what merit it has. Enough went wrong for our protagonists that adding this on top of everything else is honestly just adding misery and angst for the sake of misery and angst.



Now the more interesting idea to explore is if Summer can survive being removed from the Grimm she's the core of. Like I noted earlier when we consider the fact that the Silver Eyed Faunus' limbs had been reduced to nothing but blackened bones there is a real possibility that the Summer that gets pulled out of the Grimm would be nothing more than a heavily scared and limbless head plus torso. Now the cybernetic technology we see in RWBY means that the doctors can actually do something for Summer even after she's been reduced to such a pitiful state, it's just a matter of getting her to a hospital capable of performing the right procedures.


So on the physical side of things we have the low drama and high drama options: either Summer is removed from the Grimm at a place relatively close to an appropriate hospital and we can go straight into a recovery arc, or Summer is removed from the Grimm at a remote location in which case we now have the drama of transporting a highly fragile and completely helpless person over a great distance to a place she can be helped.

In either case the road to a psychological recovery is probably not an easy one. Summer's spent over one and a half decades in a personal hell after all, her mental state is going to be anything but healthy. Now after going through that hell it'd be possible that her mind is too broken for mortal methods to help, but that's honestly the less interesting possibility as it'd once again be angst for the sake of angst. Now having a completely insane Summer that's still capable of recovery would still have its' angst, but so long as she actually does recover on some level that angst would be there to serve the story instead of just being there for its own sake.

There'd be a lot of interesting things a writer could explore in Summer's potential madness and how it affects the people around her, and then how her slowly returning sanity deals with the fallout of her madness on top of the lost years.



So TLDR; having Summer be the core of a Hound or some other Grimm isn't a neat and simple way to bring her back. Revealing her to be alive through this method creates more problems for our heroes than it solves, and there would be some serious work for our heroes to obtain the happy ending at the conclusion of a story involving the idea.



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Continuing with the topic of the Grimm Hound, it's a shame that the concept of these special Grimm—capable of thought and even speech (similar to the High-End Nomu from *BNHA*)—wasn't explored further.

And as "Count" rightly pointed out, they'll likely just use this concept to potentially bring Summer back (I doubt it, but CRWBY has a strange knack for surprising us—and not always in a good way).

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Well logically speaking bringing Summer back as a Hound isn't a simple or straightforward happy ending, as I go into more detail in this post here.

To summarize the Silver Eyed Faunus that served as The Hound's core was seriously f**ked up, so logically speaking if Summer was the core of a Hound or some other comparable Grimm she would be just as if not more f**ked up.

So if a writer is taking the idea seriously it wouldn't be a "Summer is saved and is back in action alongside her daughters," type of thing. It would either be a "Yang and/or Ruby need to put their mother out of her misery" kind of thing or a "Summer needs decades of physical and psychological therapy before she can have anything resembling a normal life" kind of ordeal.

So, I'd like to ask everyone: what ideas do you have to make these "Hound Grimm" more interesting?

How would you handle the "Hound Grimm" concept to make it more compelling and intimidating?

Do you think the Hound Grimm should have appeared or been hinted at prior to Volume 8?

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If I was doing a rewrite of RWBY I'd work the events of the Grimm Eclipse game into the main narrative while changing a few things. Namely I would have teams RWBY and JNPR encounter Salem's Maiden Candidate Allie Warbucks, who in addition to her own pseudo-Grimm Gobble-uns would be accompanied by a pair of Hounds acting as her body guards as she searched for Doctor Merlot in the hopes of making contact with him and recruiting him into Salem's service.

It would then be a race between our heroes and Allie to reach Doctor Merlot first, and one of The Hounds would serve as the narrative's final boss to give Allie the cover she needs to get away with the mad scientist.


Now to further build upon The Hound concept I would have some of the hounds develop into more foxlike humanoids that will be called Gumiho. These Gumiho will be sleeker than The Hounds, to the point that you can discern the original gender of the victim inside them, as the bulk of the Grimm-matter mass is concentrated in the Gumiho's tails. These tails are vicious shape shifting weapons that the Gumiho can use to devastating effect thanks to the fact that the Gumiho's mind is even clearer than a Hound's, as if the monster is on the cusp of having a personality beyond following the orders it's been given.

On top of that if the victim serving as the Gumiho's core had their own personal weapon it's possible that the Gumiho will still remember how to maintain and use that weapon proficiently, meaning there's a chance the Gumiho will fight with that weapon instead of or in addition to its' tails.

Spoiler: If I were doing Grimm!Summer...

If, if I were to use the "Summer got turned into a Grimm's core" plot idea I would have her be a Gumiho. When Salem deploys Allie to hunt the Spring Maiden following Cinder's attack on the Vytal Festival Allie would bring a handful of Hounds and Gumiho to act as her honor guard, including Gumiho!Summer.

Gumiho!Summer would have enough of a mind to somewhat recognize Raven and assign blame for her current tortured existence upon Raven: as her fractured psyche would still remember how the Branwen sister's semblance worked and come to the conclusion that Raven chose to not come back for her. This stokes a desire for revenge beyond the Grimm instincts that are running roughshod over her disjointed mind.

I'm first picturing this particular plot point beginning with Gumiho!Summer mistakes a traveling Yang for Raven and attacking. Yang quickly realizes she's outmatched by this unusual Grimm leading to an intense chase sequence. Yang gets away but Gumiho!Summer tracks her at a distance, which is what eventually leads her and Allie Warbucks to the Branwen's camp.

And so there's an attack on the camp. The battle is pretty intense but our heroines plus Raven and Vernal manage to escape Allie and her accompanying Gumiho and Hounds.

Where exactly to go from there I'm not completely sure yet, but a scene where the Gumiho pulls out Summer's shotgun-axe and fighting with it the same way Summer would to Raven's growing horror is how I want to confirm the Gumiho that seems to personally have it out for Raven contains Summer.

A big Raven vs Gumiho!Summer fight is a must.

If Summer can be saved it would involve Ruby Silver Eye blasting away the Grimm-matter imprisoning her followed up by Jaune using Aura Amp to supercharge Summer's own Silver power thereby purging her of everything Ruby's blast couldn't get rid of. This would require an above novice level of mastery over those two powers, so they can't do it during the first couple of confrontations. The freed Summer would be a limbless head and torso with a shattered mind, which means she could be a significant burden for our heroes if they aren't close to a trustworthy hospital. I'm picturing Summer sometimes recognizing Yang and Ruby as her daughters, other times thinking Yang is Raven and Ruby a long dead sibling or cousin. All in all it'd be a mess.

If they're lucky Raven will still be on hand to fetch Taiyang and perhaps get them to Isabel's hospital. If not it'd be a long road to ether Argus or Atlas.

A wild idea that just occurred to me while writing this is having Hazel turn into a "Hound Grimm" (this would open up the possibility that not all "Hound Grimm" have to be created from people with Silver Eyes). Thanks to his pain-immunity Semblance, he might actually survive the procedure... I know it sounds crazy, but Hazel is arguably the most underutilized member of Salem's inner circle; his only truly memorable moments were his role in the Battle of Haven and his final fight against Salem. What do you think?

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Hmmm....

So the silver-eyes being necessary to survive the grimmification methods Salem was experimenting with to create The Hounds is the assumption I've been working with. Salem thinking she's refined the process enough to not necessarily need a silver-eyed individual and turning to Hazel to see if that's true might be an interesting thing to do.

Now the question is the circumstances. Did Salem somehow convince him to willingly volunteer for the experiment? Is this punishment for him deciding to turn on her at a crucial moment? This can seriously change the direction you're going with this.



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That's a pretty interesting idea, but now I'm wondering: are the Hound Grimm and the Gumiho variant exclusive to this OC, or can other characters in Salem's inner circle use them too?

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So when Salem was training Allie Warbucks she decided to teach Allie about Grimm-sculpting under the assumption that such knowledge would help Allie master her own semblance. These assumptions were more or less correct, helping Allie create new varieties of her Gobble-uns. On top of that Allie proved to have enough of a knack for Grimm-sculpting that Salem made Allie her personal assistant for several Grimm-sculpting experiments.

Now what does that mean for Allie's relationship with The Hounds and Gumihos? Well it means that Allie was there for the creation of most of The Hounds, giving her an intimate knowledge of the inner workings of those monstrosities. Most of the Gumiho also evolved from Hounds under Allie's hands.

So Allie is like the veterinarian overseeing The Hounds and Gumihos, making sure the living cores and surrounding Grimm-matter are in a "healthy" state of equilibrium. Now this doesn't mean other members of Salem's Inner Circle can't use The Hounds and Gumihos but if Allie doesn't like them she might make them jump through some hoops before letting them use one, unless their mission has been handed out by Queen Salem herself.

Well, I was thinking of a possible option:

This would take place after Salem's team was defeated at Haven. Since Hazel blamed himself for the mission's failure, Salem would offer him a second chance using deceptive words, eventually convincing him to undergo an experiment—something akin to a "proto-Hound." Salem knew Hazel might not survive the procedure, as he didn't possess Silver Eyes, but thanks to his Semblance—immunity to pain—he not only survived but also kept his mind intact.

This would explain why Hazel wasn't with Watts and Tyrian's team in Volume 7; he would be the one sent on missions like hunting down Oscar and later Penny. (In the latter case, the scenario would shift so that Hazel decides to flee after failing to capture Penny, demonstrating that he possesses more autonomy than Salem intended.)

Finally, Hazel would turn against Salem; even though she subjects him to indescribable pain, he manages to ignore it and fight back against her.

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I see. I guess that makes enough sense to work.

Another somewhat crazy idea that occurs to me is having Cinder command a Hound Grimm during her infiltration mission at Beacon in Volumes 2 and 3. Just imagine how the teachers and students at Beacon would react to the existence of a Grimm like that—one capable of thinking, devising human-like strategies, and even speaking—as well as discovering that there is a human with silver eyes inside it.

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Having Cinder commit a Hound to her attack on Beacon is an idea I could see working. It creates a clear roadblock that any Teacher besides Glynda can't breeze past, giving an in universe reason as to why there was absolutely nobody in Beacon's staff that was able to reinforce Ozpin when he was attempting to give Pyrrha Amber's Maiden Powers: The Hound delayed them.




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So, my question is: assuming you could pull this off, how would you do afterwards to make me respect the Grimm again (my respect for the Grimm is going to take a big hit that is a Hound with an SEW core no matter what), how would you do it in such a way that I am not forced to pick between it and Red Trailer, and what, in your mind is the opportunity cost of this?

What does the story have to not do in exchange for this to happen?

Oh, and it shouldn't devalue death or consequences for the narrative. A big reason I am not able to really respect western comic books as a story format is that nothing the characters do seems to matter for carry consequence.

If I get it worked into my head that what I have been told the characters have done and why that matters to the story is overruled or countermanded in the very next chapter I tend to start wondering whether or not their actions matter to the plot at all.

I hope I have not left you feeling put-upon.

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So I think part of the problem is that battles with Elite Grimm were honestly far and few between and at some point they stopped feeling like battles with Elite Grimm.

I mean let's go over the Grimm that were supposed to be Elite Grimm that were a cut above the cannon fodder Grimm like Beowolves and Griffons: The Arma Gigas from The White Trailer. The Giant Nevermore and Deathstalker from Initiation. Then we have the Scared Beringel from the Volume 4 Trailer. The Giest. The Sea Feilong. The Queen Lancer. The Nuckelavee. The Grimm Sphinx leading the Manticores on the train attack. And then The Hound.

(I'm not counting the Wyvern because none of our heroes actually fought the darn thing. Same with the Leviathan.)

So in total we have:
1. Arma Gigas
2. Giant Nevermore.
3. Deathstalker.
4. Scared Beringel.
5. The Giest.
6. The Sea Feilong.
7. The Queen Lancer.
8. The Nuckelavee.
9. The Sphinx.
10. The Hound.

Ten. Just Ten fights with Grimm that we could consider Elites instead of fodder. Two of these fights were from trailers instead of in the show proper. Giant Nevermores and Deathstalkers didn't take long to join the cannon fodder. The Giest felt more like a reintroduction tutorial boss in the first level of a game's sequel than a true elite. You could argue the same for the Sea Feilong. The Sphinx didn't feel like an Elite because of how little damage it did over the duration of that fight.

This means in the show proper the only Elite Grimm our heroes fought that truly feel like elites on rewatch are The Queen Lancer, The Nuckelavee, and The Hound.

And I think that's part of the reason why The Hound feels like a hit to your respect for the Grimm. He's a full third of the Elite Grimm that actually feel like Elites on rewatch, making it feel like the Grimm need to be mixed with humans in some way to pose a serious threat. This feeling is not helped by how many volumes back the other two true elite feeling Grimm fights were.

I'm betting that if there were more Grimm that posed as much of a threat to our heroes as the Nuckelavee did more evenly spread out through the different volumes that feeling wouldn't be as strong.


So that would be the first half of my fix: More Grimm on a similar threat level as the Nuckelavee, Queen Lancer, Arma Gigas, and Scared Beringel. At least one fight with a Grimm on that level per volume, preferably more if they can be worked cleanly into the story. I'm thinking if only one fight can be cleanly worked in it should be with a Grimm that's a proper threat to an entire team like the Nuckelavee, and if more fights can be worked in you have duels between an elite Grimm and one of our main characters like the Scared Beringel verses Ruby fight.

It should also take significantly more fights before the Giant Nevermores and Deathstalkers get demoted to fodder. I mean Deathstalkers have some serious armor, fighting one should feel like fighting a Mgalekgolo from Halo; i.e. a real headache without armor piercing weaponry. This means a random Deathstalker should still be a major threat to our heroes if they ever run into one without the right equipment even in later volumes.

Do this right and The Hound should stop feeling like something needed to keep the Grimm relevant and more like a side project Salem devised to place the Silver Eyed Bloodlines that effectively defied her in an ironic living hell, relishing in the cruelty of their torment. Turn the Hounds from something Salem actively needs into something she's doing for sick kicks and giggles.



As for how I'd handle The Hounds themselves?

Well like I said earlier I'd first introduce them alongside one of Salem's Dark Maiden Candidates during the events of Grimm Eclipse, which I'd work into the main narrative of my from-the-beginning rewrite. Perhaps it's revealed that Hounds have a Silver Eyed Victim serving as their core during this fight, perhaps that's saved for later. A Hound serving Cinder is probably involved in her attack on Beacon, doing battle with teachers and other members of the school's facilities keeping people from reinforcing Ozpin. If the Silver Eyed Victim thing isn't revealed in the previous encounter it would be revealed in this one.

For the rest of the show I'm currently thinking Hounds and their derivatives would be best used as bodyguards and gofers for Salem's inner circle, especially for Allie Warbucks, as a kind of reoccurring penultimate boss fight before any final confrontation with a member of the Inner Circle. This idea might need further refinement and reconsideration.


Now if I were to do the Summer-Used-As-A-Grimm-Core concept I'd have it be part of the Volumes 4 and 5 equivalents in my rewrite like I explained in the spoiler from this post. That spoiler lays out the current gist of my thoughts. If it is possible to save her said saving would probably happen during the volume six equivalent, maybe volume seven. In any case Summer would be too broken to help anyone, and any real recovery would have to wait for the series epilogue.




As for reconciling the premise of The Red Trailer and the lyrics of Red Like Roses with a Summer that isn't completely dead? Let us consider what death actually is.

Death is ultimately a separation. The reason death is tragic is because a person who was here isn't anymore, and can't be without an act of god. If a portal opened beneath my feet and dropped me into the mystical realm of Candyland with no way to return to the regular world I am functionally dead on Earth even though I didn't literally die.

As a Grimm's core Summer is functionally dead to Remnant and in hell. The fact that she isn't literally dead is irrelevant to all the people who believe her to be dead as the separation can only end through an act of god or a herculean style miracle, and the handful of people who could attempt a herculean style miracle are unaware such a miracle can be attempted.

This means Summer is functionally dead to everyone relevant until the Grimm imprisoning her is deployed and people can learn she isn't literally dead. Ruby's original motivations are preserved. The horror of The Hounds could apply cracks to that motivation, especially if/when Summer's revealed to be trapped in that hell, but putting cracks in a main character's motivations isn't always a bad thing. The right cracks can lead to character defining self reflection that can help drive a story forward.



The original Death of Superman story carried real weight even though it was obvious they were going to bring him back from the word go because the narrative impact of his return didn't erase the narrative impact of his absence. Resurrection only cheapens the weight of death if the pain of the separation was meaningless, or the price paid to end it is too trivial.

The price of rescuing Summer from that hell and putting her back together into a functional human being is very high. The pain caused by the separation is not meaningless nor is it erased if she returns in this manner, in fact having her return in such a manner could easily intensify and amplify the pains the original separation caused.


Now am I saying Summer must be brought back in such a manner? No. Her being dead serves a good narrative purpose, and you're not wrong that bringing her back in the wrong way could easily weaken everything that's been built upon the reality of her death.

However, by what I can only assume was sheer dumb luck CRWBY managed to put all the pieces on the table for a way to bring Summer back in a manner that wouldn't necessarily weaken everything that's been built on Summer's death.

That being said in spite of all the correct pieces being on the table I highly doubt CRWBY would put them together in the right way, so your visceral rejection of the idea is understandable. And I personally hope they don't do it because it would make it harder for fan fiction writers who'd have a better shot at doing it correctly to be taken seriously if they try their hand at it.

 

[Quietview27]

but the game revealing how BROKEN Jaune semblance is

Could make an interesting plot where some of the Specialists noticed how insane Jaune's semblance could make him, so purposefully sabotage his attempts to learn beneficial techniques, like offering the most vague advice, or making sure he never has time to train. Mostly they do it to make sure he can't come and take their position, which tbf I doubt he'd do given he has bigger worries to focus on

Someone help I don't know what I did to get it like this!

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[mgl1206]

Gonna be honest here, that plot idea sounds so absolutely stupid CRWBY might just actually write something like that hell it's still better than what they actually did… just fucking forgetting it exists unless they needed a deus ex machina

 

[Frankly Tired]

Didn't you have that other Alternate Universe Theater @Frankly Tired where Blake ate the Milkshake?

Is this a callback?

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When did i do that?
i dont recall.

 

[GraveyardShift]

Jaune Arc: Tsundere Hunter

"Ms. Nikos! Ms. Nikos!"

Pyrrha gestured to the reporter keeping Plastic Smile No. 7 "The Gentle Ease" on her lips. But Dust was this Press Conference taking so long... She may have been retired from the circuit for her time at Beacon but she was still required by the Sponsership contracts that had yet to expire to make the occasional Media Presence.

She'd much rather be back at Beacon right now watching Nora's latest antics...

"Ms. Nikos there have been rumors floating around that you have been seen in the presence of a local Valish Boy during your time at Beacon. Can you offer some insight into who this boy is and why he's seen so frequently with you?"

Pyrrha's smile slipped slightly almost into a genuine grin but she caught it and forced Plastic Smile No. 3 "The Slight Teeth" into place.

...or she could be working on getting Jaune to date her. Again.

"As you well know, I am attending Beacon Academy to put my skills to use as a future Huntress and Defender of Humanity. I have been placed on a team with three other individuals as is Hunter Academy Standard. The boy you are likely referring to who's name is Jaune Arc..." She allowed herself a little heat in her voice to make it clear she didn't appreciate the dehumanization of Jaune by omitting his name before switching back to a neutral tone. "...is the Team Leader of the team I am on. It is only natural that as my fellow teammate and Team Leader I spend time in his company to better our cooperation in our time at Beacon."

"Anything to say about the rumors that you are dating this Jaune Arc or he is currently attempting to date you?"

"No."

"What about the rumors that he is currently attempting to date multiple girls including famed Heiress and Singer Weiss Schee?"

Pyrrha twitched slightly at the name but forced herself to keep still. "Jaune is a very kind young man which is appreciated by many of our fellow classmates and close friends. He is free to date who he chooses." LIKE MEEEEEEEEEE. She raged in her head. ME AND NOT THAT FLAT SKINNY HARLOT WHO IS ONLY ICE AND SPITE.

"What about the rumor-"

Pyrrha's agent cut in. "As much as I'm sure Ms. Nikos would like to recount her academy experiences, if there are no further questions regarding the subject of this Press Release, we will need to end it here as we are 30 minutes over time. Thank you for attendance." Pyrrha was greatly relieved by the dismissal and being ushered out as reporters clamored to try and get a last question in.

---

Jaune opened the door to the dorm room just a Pyrrha was snapping the last of the elastic of her workout outfit into place. He quickly spun around and closed the door. "Whoop! Oh sorry Pyrrha! Didn't know you were back already!"

Pyrrha turned to face him with a megawatt grin on her face. "Oh no big deal Jaune! It's not like we haven't seen each other already given how we live together." Pyrrha had, in truth, been fully dressed for 30 minutes now and had been waiting for Jaune to return to the dorm before strategically positioning herself and adjusting her outfit when he came in to sell the lie it had been a 'close call'.

She had been doing this since their first week as a team back when JNPR was sorting out their 'domestic' schedule because Jaune had been GREAT fun to tease. Ever since she teased him in the Emerald Forest about 'having spots on his team' and he had reacted positively to her first attempts at teasing to form a genuine connection, she had come to crave that response from him.

As a Co-Ed team, there had been the occasional 'accident' of walking in on each other which was to be expected. Nora and Ren having grown up as Co-ed nomads and raised in Mistralian culture which included communal and mixed bathing, were used to it and didn't make a big deal out of it.

Pyrrha herself, also Mistralian and having been pretty much raised in a locker room, didn't have the same sense of bodyshame ether and so also wasn't put off by any 'accidents'.

But Jaune... oh SWEET Jaune... despite having been raised with seven sisters and his early training of being a doctor, was SUCH a gentleman about wanting to 'preserve their modesty', had the most HILARIOUS reactions when it happened. The way he went red, stuttered and stammered, before saying something completely non sequitur that never failed to make people laugh.

Nora had immediately joined in with her into trying to arrange such 'incidents' trying to see what off the wall stuff she could make him say and take it as a competition to 'outweird the Fearless Leader'. Much to Ren's torment. The stories of which were eagerly shared with their sister team RWBY which Yang would latch onto about the 'Jaune Phrase of the Week'.

Life went on and Jaune got better about the stammering, slowly becoming inoculated to the 'incidents' though he still had the weird gibberish outburst and never failed to turn red. Which he was doing now.

And Lonely Little Pyrrha, devoid of any meaningful relationships, had her heart stolen when she wasn't looking by the kind blonde goofball himbo.

She didn't know how or when it happened. Maybe one too many of those boyish smiles sent her way with genuine kindness and affection. Maybe it was the dark secret he entrusted to her, first and long before the others, that bound them together as he literally entrusted his life to her at Beacon. A gift so precious and taboo she swore to guard it to her grave.

Or maybe it was just knowing the reaction she got out of him when she teased him triggering his gentlemanly upbringing. Eventually coming to understand he reacted this way because he saw her as a woman.

Pyrrha shivered a little at that. Jaune, a boy, saw her, as a girl.

And she liked that he saw her as such. Making a little flutter that jumped from her stomach to her chest.

But whatever the case was. The hows or whys. They mattered not. What did matter was that Pyrrha Nikos was In Love with Jaune Arc.

And so she teased him relentlessly, more frequently, knowing that when she did so, all his attention was focused on her in that moment.

And, she was so sure, if she remained the focus of his attention, he would come to see her in the same way that she saw him having captured her attention for as long as he had.

She simply nodded having not paid attention to a single thing he'd said in the last few minutes. Only watching his lips move. "Sounds about right." She said causing Jaune to raise an eyebrow. KYA! SO CUTE! Pyrrha gushed internally. "I'm heading up the roof. We're doing stretches today so wear something light. No need to bring combat gear." She reminded him.

"Seem to be doing that a lot these days...." Jaune mumbled.

"Flexibility is important to a Huntsman Jaune. Being able to move in unpredictable ways without hurting yourself can throw off your opponents letting you slip through their guards easier." She demonstrated by twisting while stretching before dropping backwards into a bridge arching herself and nearly folding in two.

Jaune went pure red at the things she was doing. "Uh... L-l-lettuce stocks are up over jelly seeds in the market today." He said turning away from her.

Pyrrha fell flat on her back as giggles took her. Finally she rolled to her feet (going backwards heels over head ensuring Jaune stayed red watching her move) and patted him on the shoulder as she went for the door. "See you in five."

"R-Right."

Pyrrha let the door close behind her but used her semblance to prevent the latch from engaging letting her silently crack the door open and watch with giddy intent as Jaune's shirt came off. Oh Yes... she thought.

---

Jaune had no idea how it came to this. He was a good boy! His mother had pretty much forced him to be such.

And here he was stuck between two girls wearing little more than 'swimwear' as gym clothes.

Yang had showed up a few minutes after he and Pyrrha had gotten started. "Oh! You two doing some stretching and Yoga? Fancy that! I'll just join you!"

He knew what was going on. He knew about the 'Jaune Phrase of the Week' challenge and how Yang had started joining in with Pyrrha and Nora trying to get a rise out of him. Yang was a worse tease then Pyrrha and Nora combined!

"No Jaune. You're still too stiff. You need to loosen up a little further and REAAAACH!" Jaune gritted his teeth as Pyrrha put her hands on his back and pushed bending him in a way that didn't feel natural. How was he getting worse at this? Pyrrha seemed to have to constantly correct him all the time.

And Yang wasn't helping at all! As much as Jaune tried to avert his gaze and respect her, she somehow always found a way to stretch right in his sightline.

If he didn't know any better he'd swear they were flirting with him.

But that was silly! They were only nice to him because he made them laugh. Which... wasn't the end of the world. Being able to make his friends laugh and feel good was something Jaune Arc could do for people. Positive energy and all that.

Living with seven sisters had him used to being teased in all manner of different ways by girls. Always playful and never hurtful. Just like his friends.

Except Weiss.

Weiss Schnee was a cold angel of snow. Who dismissed him as a 'bumbling peasant'. Who acerbic tongue lashed out at him at every opportunity.

But his mother had taught him better. That to never judge a book by its cover. That a 'friend was a stranger you just hadn't met yet.'

That somewhere under there was nice, kind person who was afraid of being taken advantage of.

But like his father said "All you need is confidence son. Your mom didn't say yes at first ether, but I kept going! I never let the rejection get me down and just like a good fight, you get up and keep trying! And now we're married for life and I wouldn't have any other woman ever!"

To which his mother Isabel promptly smacked him in the back of the head but did so with a blush on her face and she didn't resist the kiss Nick immediately planted on her afterwards.

And then there had been his ex-girlfriend Katy.

She had been bullish, loudmouthed, and argumentative. And the more they fought, the more she'd clung to him.

But in the quiet moments when it was the two of them leading up to when they had gotten together romantically, she was a kind, affectionate, cuddler that had only become more pronounced when they were dating.

All of this including some extra research from Mistralian literature had led Jaune to one conclusion.

Weiss had feelings for him! But she was being a Tsundere about it meaning she wouldn't just come out and say what she really felt.

And frankly, Jaune had to admit that having to work for Weiss' affections was something he enjoyed. There was no reward without honest hard work ever in life right? The Good Book of Aslan said so multiple times!

He just had to put in the work and show Weiss that he, Jaune Arc, was a gentleman to the core and that she could trust him to catch her feelings and hold them gently. She'd come around!

...in fact... he should go invite her to come up and join them!

"Hey guys! I'll be right back. I need to go check on something." Jaune made for the rooftop exit and down into the dorms.

Once he was clear, Yang and Pyrrha butted up against each other with brittle smiles.

"So we're really doing this are we P-Money?"

"Apparently we are."

"No hard feelings when he picks the right girl?"

"None. At. All."

---

As Jaune knocked on the dorm room door, it was not Weiss that answered but Ruby Rose.

"Eyah?" she asked around a sucker clenched between her teeth leaning on the doorframe.

"Uh..." Jaune forgot himself a minute taking in the spaghetti top and short thigh length skirt she was wearing. "Is the AC out or something? Everyone's wearing some pretty light clothing."

Ruby pulled the sucker free of her lips with a pop. "Or something." She commented idly.

"Didn't take you for a lollypop girl. You're normally obsessing over cookies as your goto sweet."

Ruby shrugged working the hard candy around her mouth before pulling it free again. "Felt like a change today and needed the raw sugar." She offered the very sucker that had been in her mouth to Jaune. "Want some?"

"Uh... thanks but while I'm sure you have excellent dental hygiene... I'll pass on the one that's been in your mouth."

Ruby shrugged. "Missing out." she put it back it between her jaws. Jaune caught sight of her tongue swiping over it. "Ehth strahbeuh." she said.

"Riiiight."

Jaune and Ruby just stared at each other for the next few minutes. Ruby working on her candy and standing there waiting on him as Jaune's brain tried to remember why he was here in the first place.

"Ruby, why are you standing at the door like that? In or out!" The door was yanked fully open as one Weiss Schnee was revealed. Her eyes caught sight of Jaune and her breath came out in a hiss. "Oh. YOU." Taking stock of the situation she noticed the staring match going on and immediately hustled Ruby back into the room as Ruby protested. "How DARE you objectify my team leader like that!"

"Damn it Weiss! It wasn't like that! It's just hot!" Ruby protested out of sight.

"A likely story!" Weiss growled as she glared at Jaune still in her usual outfit.

Jaune clapped his hands as his brain finally hit drive. "Oh right! That's why I came down here!" He cleared his throat. "Weiss would like to join me, Pyrrha, and Yang on the roof for a stretch session?"

Weiss turned red and she verbally exploded. "YOU FILTHY CHANUVISTOIC PIG! YOU ROTTEN MONGRAL! HOW DARE YOU ASK ME TO PERFORM FOR YOUR SICK ENTERTAINMENT!"

The rant went on as a "WHAT!?!?" exploded from behind her followed by the loud banging and clattering of wardrobe doors and dresser drawers.

As Weiss finally wound down from her rant she was bodily shoved aside as Ruby charged past her having changed into a rather tight gym outfit herself seized Jaune's arm and powered down the hallway with Jaune in tow using Pedal Burst yelling "THOSE HUSSIES HAVE GONE TOO FAR THIS TIME TRYING TO STEAL MY BESTIE FOR THEMSELVES! HE WAS MINE FIRST!"

Yeah, Jaune thought to himself as he tried to keep dinner down as Ruby ripped through the school onto the roof at high speed before charging into the standoff with Pyrrha and her sister yelling something at them about 'bimbos'. His friends were weird and Weiss just wasn't being honest with her feelings yet. But he'd get there eventually!

---

From the next building over, Nora gleefully watched the chaos though a pair of binoculars. "She actually called them bimbos! Pay up Renny!"

Ren sighed and passed her 5 lien. "I still say you can't read lips."

Blake's ears twitched minutely as she caught every word. "She did call them bimbos." She confirmed.

"See?" Nora challenged. "Okay. New bet. Yang slips accidentally on purpose and falls on him. It's classic."

"With Pyrrha there? I say it's Ruby who gets away with it."

Blake scoffed as she added the cute rogue to the story of the Gallant Knight and his rooftop romantic rendezvous just as the tension was set to explode. "Please. It ends with ALL of them falling on him as they mistime their efforts and all try to do it at once and get tangled in a human knot."

"Bet!" Nora held out a hand and Blake slapped it.

---

SAVED IT!

 

[GraveyardShift]

@Frankly Tired You posted this right before I posted "Let Sleeping Mia's lie" back in May.

Frankly Tired said:
thank you Chatgpt, having the cast react to my own threadmarks, is very funny.

Even if it is in a Simplistic GPT AI style on occasion.

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Here's a section, It's them watching "Strawberry Maintence"

here's the Blake part.

The projector cuts to Blake.

She stands in the courtyard, staring at a strawberry milkshake.

It sits on the table.

Innocent.

Deadly.

---

Despite her stereotypes demanding that milk must be consumed...

Blake's ears flatten.

Yang turns to her. "Oh no."

Blake's expression becomes resigned. "I know where this is going."

---

Blake is lactose intolerant.

Jaune winces. "Oh."

---

Also, she's allergic to strawberries.

The entire room turns.

Yang: "Blake."

Blake says flatly, "I am aware."

Ruby whispers, "That milkshake is your enemy."

Ren nods. "A complete counterbuild."

Nora gasps. "It has type advantage."

Weiss looks between them. "Why would she even consider it?"

---

But the milk.

It's calling to her.

On-screen Blake leans slowly toward the milkshake, eyes narrowed like she is fighting destiny.

Real Blake covers her face with one hand.

Yang is losing it again. "Blake."

Blake mutters, "Cat jokes are not fair when they become prophecy."

Ruby, loyally, says, "You don't have to drink milk."

Nora whispers, "But it called."

Ren: "Do not encourage the fatal beverage."

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And so were the paramedics.

The scene cuts.

On-screen Blake lies on a stretcher, foaming faintly at the mouth while paramedics wheel her away.

The milkshake cup sits empty beside her.

Everyone freezes.

Then Yang makes a strangled noise. "Blake!"

Ruby looks horrified. "You drank it?!"

Blake's voice is muffled behind her hand. "Apparently."

Weiss is half-concerned, half-scandalized. "You knew both problems!"

Blake lowers her hand just enough to say, "The milk was persuasive."

Nora nods solemnly. "The call was answered."

Ren: "At great cost."

Jaune whispers, "I'm scared of this milkshake event."

Pyrrha, very gently, "That seems reasonable."
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AI slop it may be, but i found it funny.

I just wish it would stop slipping from established personality locks and writing/format rules so much.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

Yang being tsundere towards Jaune could be interesting to explore. Unlike Weiss' stuffy princess-style tsundere, Yang is more like a bullying childhood friend: She does actually really like Jaune but she's not sure how to approach it genuinely. Sure, she can flirt to get things she wants, or to tease, but genuine romantic feelings scare her. She's not sure how to approach Jaune, so she bullies him. Often to the point people think she's his wife with how she pesters him to train, look after himself and so on.