[RWBY] RWBY Shorts

[Sliverhero]

@Sift Green
For your Myrmidons that are with Lionheart
Think it be more thematic if they the ones to kill him once he is revealed to be a traitor. Especially if pyrrha survives for it.

It be like how Goge Vandire from w40k was killed.

 

[Bommel]

And yes, Tomo-chan is a Girl is a perfect basis to use! What else?

Click to shrink...

Maybe Yor from SpyXFamily?
She can be pretty shy, and may respond with violence if confronted with any way of physical intimasy (such as kissing), or will fully down a bottle of liquor just so she can push herself to go through with stuff like that (either because the situation demands it or because she really really wants to despite her nerves).

Maybe something from that could work?

 

[Sift Green]

@Sift Green
For your Myrmidons that are with Lionheart
Think it be more thematic if they the ones to kill him once he is revealed to be a traitor. Especially if pyrrha survives for it.

It be like how Goge Vandire from w40k was killed.

Click to shrink...

That's not a bad idea, and I can definitely see it working as a narratively satisfying conclusion to a story arc.

At the same time these would be the Myrmidons he's had the most time to work over, so it's also possible that he's truly made them completely and totally his by the time the story is happening.

So this is an idea I think could go either way and have it make sense.

 

[digcat]

You know who we need for the Arc clan Lyra and her husband Harry.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

The JNPR common room was quiet for once—no explosions, no hammer drills, no Ren quietly meditating in the corner. Just the three of them: Jaune sprawled on the couch with a medical textbook balanced on his stomach, Yang perched on the armrest beside him scrolling through her Scroll, and Pyrrha sitting cross-legged on the floor doing wrist stretches.

Yang was the one who broke the comfortable silence.

"Putain, ce prof de Dust est vraiment un con!" She muttered under her breath, scowling at whatever message she'd just received.

Jaune's head snapped up so fast the book slid off his lap and thumped onto the carpet.

Yang blinked at him. "What?"

He swallowed. His ears had gone faintly pink.

"…Say that again?"

Yang tilted her head, confused but game. "Putain, ce prof de Dust est vraiment un con?"

Jaune made a small, strangled noise in the back of his throat. His pupils were suddenly very large.

Yang's grin started slow and dangerous. "Ohhh. You like that, huh?"

Jaune coughed into his fist. "It's… Gallian was the first language I learned. It's… home. And hearing it from you is…" He gestured helplessly. "Really hot. Like. Really."

Yang's grin turned downright predatory. She leaned down until their noses almost touched.

"Tu veux que je continue, mon petit chevalier~?"

Jaune's face went from pink to full crimson in record time. He made another strangled sound.

Pyrrha, who had been quietly watching the exchange with growing fascination, suddenly cleared her throat.

"Ἐὰν σοῦ ἀρέσῃ ἡ γλῶσσα αὕτη, Ἰάων," she said softly, voice pitched lower than usual, "μπορῶ νὰ σοῦ μιλήσω ἑλληνιστὶ ὅλη τὴν ἡμέρα."

Jaune's head whipped toward her so fast it should have snapped his neck.

Pyrrha's cheeks were flushed, but her emerald eyes were bright, almost challenging.

"You are of course familiar with Hellenic, aren't you Jaune?" She asked sweetly. Jaune nodded.

"Y-Yeah, my mom wanted me to learn the classics and... Stuff..."

Yang's grin sharpened into something feral.

"Oh. It's on, Cereal Girl."

Pyrrha's answering smile was sweet, serene, and utterly lethal.

"Très bien," she purred in perfect Gallian, then switched seamlessly back to Hellenic, "ἀλλὰ ἐγὼ πρῶτον τὸν ἄνδρα ἔμαθον νὰ ἀγαπᾷ."

Yang laughed—low, delighted, dangerous.

"Tu parles bien, princesse. Mais regarde ça—"

She leaned right into Jaune's space, lips brushing his ear, whispering something long and filthy-sounding in rapid Gallian.

Jaune made a noise that could only be described as "system overload."

Pyrrha's eyes narrowed. She slid gracefully to her knees in front of him, placed one hand on his thigh for balance, and murmured something slow and velvet-smooth in
Hellenic, her voice dropping into registers Jaune had never heard from her before.

Jaune's pupils were now approximately the size of dinner plates.

Yang's hair flared brighter.

"Tu triches," she accused, grinning like a shark.

"Σοῦ ἀρέσει ὅμως," Pyrrha replied sweetly.

"Okay, okay—" Jaune managed, voice cracking on the second 'okay'. He held up both hands like he was trying to stop a train. "Ladies. Please. Settle this like mature adults."

Yang and Pyrrha looked at each other.

Considered.

Then, in perfect unison:

Yang (in Gallian): "Va te faire foutre."

Pyrrha (in Hellenic): "Πήγαινε γαμήσου."

They glared at each other over Jaune's head.

Jaune dropped his face into his hands and groaned.

"I hate my life."

Nora chose that exact moment to kick the door open, already eating a pancake.

"Yo! What'd I miss? Why does Jaune look like he's about to combust?"

Yang and Pyrrha answered at the same time, still glaring daggers at each other as Jaune blushed:

"Communication issues."

 

[cavalal386]

i'd ask for a translation, but i'm afraid of what i'll find.

also i think that saying is that insulting someone in french is like wiping your ass with silk.
then what is greek?

 

[digcat]

I like it no idea about what they were saying but i like it.

 

[Blackicefox]

....... did you just seriously turn Jaune Harem protagonist Ark into Gomez motherfucking Adams!?!?!? you monster reminant it can't handle that kind of batshit insanity!!!!...... We need more

 

[GraveyardShift]

i'd ask for a translation, but i'm afraid of what i'll find.

Click to shrink...

I'm not.

"Damn, that Dust teacher is really an idiot!"

"Do you want me to continue, my little knight~?"

"If you like this language, Jason (Jaune), I can talk to you in Greek(Hellinic) all day."

"Very well." "But I was the first to learn how to love a man."

"You speak well, princess. But look at this-..."

"You're cheating"

"You like it though"

"Go fuck yourself."
"Go fuck yourself"

also i think that saying is that insulting someone in french is like wiping your ass with silk.
then what is greek?

Click to shrink...

I'll let you judge.


View: https://youtu.be/OIB5SKG3no0?si=1txme7HuCZumKM6y&t=433

 

[GraveyardShift]

Myrmidon Cloning Conspiracy

Click to shrink...

I'd have to adjust it a little bit to fit Son's Revelation but you've got some solid stuff here that I REALLY want to work with.

What I think I will do is have this project having been started up following the Faunus Revolution.

Much in the same way that Vacuians looked to Lady Artic to kickstart their Industrial Revolution and drag Vacuo kicking and screaming into a modern power. The Mistralians smarting from the loss in the Great War and the near loss against the Faunus are basically looking for a solution. Mantle and Atlas are having their civil war. (Because a peaceful transition after everything that's happening is stupid.)

Basically Vale is the only one who's come out of this era smelling of roses. Part of the reason why they felt comfortable enough to start the process of demilitarization. It's not complete by the time of RWBY proper but the military has been reduced considerably to garrison forces then an institution able to project power.

The idea of a 'Divine Army' fits the Greek and Asian aesthetics. But it's taken them up to this point to even get their genome tweaking and cloning setup done. Supposedly they cracked an ancient repository of knowledge that detailed the process but it's in a dead language that's been near impossible to speak and had no real connection to any of the modern or even known ancient languages of Remnant. (These repositories pop up once in a while and are often a source of excitement in scholastic circles world wide.)

So now they're looking for a template to use.

And this is where Pyrrha Nikos comes in.

The conspiracy has been both seeking and attempting to guide certain bloodlines in the hopes of producing their chosen warrior. Pyrrha's mother Athena was supposedly of one such bloodline of ancient warriors long past. (Insert Kratos as Pyrrha's ancestor here claims.) They'd hoped that combining her bloodline with one of their agents would get them the result they were hoping for.

Now it's been noted in that Jaune was a sickly child in this timeline. Isabel driving herself into a frenzy trying to save him.

Pyrrha when she was born had the same condition. Athena basically spiraled and her husband, a conspiracy agent, convinced her to sent the child off to 'a specialist' which was just a conspiracy lab.

The real Pyrrha Nikos died of complications in the lab. What the lab did do however is that they were able to isolate and correct the problems with Pyrrha. And so a clone of her with a corrected genome was returned to her mother. Otherwise unaltered aside from correcting the deficiency.

Now the project at this point decided to try and use the template they'd obtained from Pyrrha to start production since she was the first template they managed to get their hands on and the whole eugenics thing wasn't working out with a lot of their targets basically being defective similar to Pyrrha and Jaune. They already had a 'designer template' ready and so went to work.

So the first several batches were sped grown just to see what the outcome would be. And realized they'd struck gold with EXACTLY they were looking for in Pyrrha. While the vast majority of Batches 1-4 died out due to being sped grown, three of which stubbornly cling to life even today. "The Fates" Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos.

These three often making decisions for which track each new batch of Myrmidons will take. And they are TERRIFYINGLY good at accurately identifying which of their sisters are best suited to which track. Hence why they are "The Fates".

Batches 5 and onward are grown conventionally for the reasons listed out.

It is actually the Fates who have been spinning tales of the 'Divine Mother' from who's flesh they were born from her sacrifice. Deifying the original Pyrrha who died. Claiming that one day, she shall resurrect from the underworld and lead them in a glorious Battle to end All Battles which will see the world reshaped into utopia. Which is their twisted version of what they've gleaned from the Conspiracy's intent with them. The conspiracy encourages this behavior.

Meanwhile, "Pyrrha" grows up unaware of any of this and is subtility 'guided' toward the tournament scene to see if she develops along the same path the early batches had as a combat prodigy. Success sees that fresh samples to keep the template from unraveling are drawn under the guise of wellness checks and regular medical exams. Many of her tournament displays are often shown to the Myrmidons with the hopes that many of them will latch onto her as their 'Divine Mother reborn'. While the general consensus is favorable toward Pyrrha, there are still some holdouts and the Fates themselves do not seem convinced.

This can allow for a divergence on whether Pyrrha lives or dies at the Fall of Beacon. If she dies then the Fates simply preach she was not the one and that the waiting must continue. If she lives then the Fates declare her the 'Divine Mother Reborn'. Reactions among the Myrmidons may vary but most follow their 'Eldest Sisters'.

Pyrrha herself has been conditioned to be humbled both as optics and to ensure she is malleable to direction from The Conspiracy. The fact she is still a clone of the original who is dead can still prompt a mental crisis of 'am I even real?'

Additionally with the original Pyrrha having suffered the same condition as Jaune can result in Isabel having dabbled a bit with the Conspiracy before parting ways. While she wasn't able to find anything to help Jaune prompting Salem to finally intervene in their 'deal' the conspiracy benefited a great deal from her in refining their process resulting in the latest batches being 'better' then normal. Perhaps something of a schism between the original runs and the 'Isabel' batches popping up.

 

[Sliverhero]

That's not a bad idea, and I can definitely see it working as a narratively satisfying conclusion to a story arc.

At the same time these would be the Myrmidons he's had the most time to work over, so it's also possible that he's truly made them completely and totally his by the time the story is happening.

So this is an idea I think could go either way and have it make sense.

Click to shrink...

If she survives they kill him for his betrayal of their goddness or if you go the path of she dies then they are his most loyal followers protecting him from cinder and on their deathbed only for it is reaveal that he is working with cinder along.

Leonheart might work them over but Pyrrha will be the one to they will always have in their heart.

 

[Gur40]

If Blake got therapy

Spoiler: pupper

would solve 90% of her issues

---

King of Vale Jaune timeline

Spoiler: portaits

photo involving Blake do not belong in this sub

---

F Hazel

Spoiler: bastard

XiaoLong_2000 • 6y ago
⠀
Hazel: Why did you make me do this?! You're fighting a war that has no foreseeable end! Salem will establish a new World Order that will end this conflict and save others from dying in vain!

Ozcar: You're one delusional fool, aren't you?

and

Lukthar123 • 6y ago

Hazel: "Think, Oscar, THINK! If I help Salem destroy Remnant, you'll never get to make another Gretchen!"

cool12212 • 6y ago

Ozcar: "Yes but who will remember Gretchen then?"

 

[Leo 123]

King of Vale Jaune timeline

Spoiler: portaits

undefined

Click to shrink...

Jaune would have way more kids. But damn, Emerald and Ilia as royal guards are looking pretty sharp.

 

[thekingofunderdogs]

What's with the Xiao Longs' second portrait?

 

[digcat]

To promote a charity for a children's hospital Pyrrha's agent ask her team to take photos with her. What craziness happens and why does everyone now ship her and Jaune as well as Ren and Nora.

 

[Leo 123]

To promote a charity for a children's hospital Pyrrha's agent ask her team to take photos with her. What craziness happens and why does everyone now ship her and Jaune as well as Ren and Nora.

Click to shrink...

For once, no craziness at all. Seriously, not one bit. Nora is on her best behaviour because it's for a children's hospital, but that's not it. NOTHING is going wrong! Everything is going according to plan. Jaune's nerves are fraying, he can't take much more of this. He's just waiting anxiously for something terrible to happen. Pyrrha notices Jaune looking distressed and steps forward to ask him what's wrong. When he explains what's up, Pyrrha puts her hand on his shoulder and leans in to say she's sure something will happen later but just enjoy now for what it is. The camera people capture the moment and it goes public. Millions of fangirls squeal at frequencies that distresses Zwei. By the end of the day, fanart and fanfics are being posted online. Pyrrha is saving all of them and backing them up onto three hard drives.

As for Ren and Nora? Nothing. Everyone just sees them and knows they are destined for each other. It's just that obvious. Or maybe it's the way Nora looks at Ren interacting with the children with hearts in her eyes...

 

[cavalal386]

@GraveyardShift, so how did your rescue mission go?
Did you get them all?

 

[GraveyardShift]

Yeah forgot about Tsundere hunter. I thought I got them out when I checked and snagged Grandmother Wars.

I THINK that was the last one left.

 

[Sift Green]

So there are things I like about your plot idea GraveyardShift. Having three Myrmidons based off of the Fate Sisters muttering ominous prophecies is an interesting concept, and some level of contact between members of the conspiracy and Isabel Arc is an idea that could be fun to explore.

However if I'm being honest this bit right here breaks my suspension of disbelief extremely hard:

The real Pyrrha Nikos died of complications in the lab. What the lab did do however is that they were able to isolate and correct the problems with Pyrrha. And so a clone of her with a corrected genome was returned to her mother. Otherwise unaltered aside from correcting the deficiency.

Now the project at this point decided to try and use the template they'd obtained from Pyrrha to start production since she was the first template they managed to get their hands on and the whole eugenics thing wasn't working out with a lot of their targets basically being defective similar to Pyrrha and Jaune. They already had a 'designer template' ready and so went to work.

Click to shrink...

Secretariat was by all recorded metrics the greatest racehorse that has yet lived. If I had a complete copy of Secretariat's genetic code I would have cloning labs all over the world knocking on my door with outrageous amounts of money for the opportunity to try and clone that horse. If I were to jump over to an alternate timeline where Secretariat had an accident as a foal and therefore never raced and I brought his genetic code to a cloning lab in that timeline the scientists would be hesitant to try and clone him. They'd model his DNA and find things like an abnormally large heart (roughly 2.5 times bigger than a normal horse) and decide it would be risky and not worth their time and money. The greatest racehorse they could possibly grow in their lab will never be cloned by them.

Which brings me to my point: Why would you choose a baby for your base template for cloning? Especially one that died from genetic issues? A baby has no accomplishments, no baseline health record, no observable personality beyond is-hungry-and-wants-its-mama. There is nothing that would make someone say "This is what we need for our mass-producible super soldiers." The only thing to go off of is the raw genetic code, and at that point you might as well be customizing every line of code without worrying about an original donor.

And the thing is technology in RWBY is far enough ahead of our own that they could have believably been able to customize every line of genetic code without worrying about an original donor generations ago. So with that on the table there's no reason why they wouldn't have either been mixing and matching the genomes of already proven warriors or building a new strand of DNA from scratch to serve as their baseline template all the way back near the inception of the conspiracy.


On top of that I feel like accelerated aging is a terrible way to test an unproven genetic template. A huge chunk of DNA is about development timing, so accelerating aging could easily screw up the traits you're hoping to examine in a prototype. So if cloning technology could have believably existed shortly after the end of The Great War plus the following chaos and the leaders of the conspiracy have already accepted that this would be the work of generations then there's no reason to not let the prototypes age normally.


So yeah having an OG Dead Baby Pyrrha serve as the base template for the Myrmidons breaks my suspension of disbelief, and it also feels like an unnecessary dramatic twist that complicates the narrative for the sake of having a dark dramatic twist. That is to say the plot point feels like it exists for its own sake instead of contributing something meaningful. Having the real Pyrrha be the endpoint of the Myrmidon project generations in the making instead of the genesis point of the Myrmidons is just narratively cleaner.

Now I'm not saying you can't do it, but if you do you should know that it feels needlessly convoluted and looks like angst for the sake of angst when the initial premise already provides all the existential dread a story needs.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

Geez. I keep getting "bondagetime" in my DeviantArt feed. He did an AI story where Yang goes to jail for five years for busting up Junior's club thanks to Raven ensuring Ruby can't warn Taiyang about it. It was entitled "Bad End" but seriously? Who gets off on this kind of stuff?

That said, Yang being on probation for her actions is something we can explore. Or the legal consequences of her actions.

If Junior had illegal things going on at his club he didn't want getting exposed, that would explain why he didn't press charges against Yang. That's also the fact he was hitting on an underaged girl who was in his club-That could get complicated. However, Yang still needs to face a punishment for this. So even if Ozpin intervenes (which he probably did), she's probably still on probation her first year at Beacon.

Or she had to do a few weeks or months in juvie.

This could allow you to do some character stuff with her. A few possibilities:

1: Bonding with Jaune as he got into Beacon with forged papers. They're both criminals.

2: Dealing with a probation officer. Some drama there.

3: Yang still trying to find info on her mom despite all this and the conflicts that ensue.

 

[digcat]

Geez. I keep getting "bondagetime" in my DeviantArt feed. He did an AI story where Yang goes to jail for five years for busting up Junior's club thanks to Raven ensuring Ruby can't warn Taiyang about it. It was entitled "Bad End" but seriously? Who gets off on this kind of stuff?

Click to shrink...

That seems like it would be just like the x gets betrayed by everyone fics never liked those.

That said, Yang being on probation for her actions is something we can explore. Or the legal consequences of her actions.

This could allow you to do some character stuff with her. A few possibilities:

1: Bonding with Jaune as he got into Beacon with forged papers. They're both criminals.

2: Dealing with a probation officer. Some drama there.

3: Yang still trying to find info on her mom despite all this and the conflicts that ensue.

Click to shrink...

She could also find a female mentor who she grows to see as a mother figure. Be forced to learn self control or emotional discipline almost anything could work. If you wanted you could even have Raven get jealous of her mentor if you wanted to go that way.

 

[Sinestro corpsman]

Yang being on probation for her actions is something we can explore.

Click to shrink...

Isabel disapproving of Yang getting close to her precious baby boy will be the understatement of the decade. After all what mother wants her child near a violent thug with a new criminal record. Tangy's response is worse.

Weiss will not be happy with 2 criminals in her team and must sadly take the role of older sister and guide Ruby into being a proper law abiding citizen.

.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

That seems like it would be just like the x gets betrayed by everyone fics never liked those.

Click to shrink...

Yeah. I hate the writers for how the characters were handled, it's not their fault.

She could also find a female mentor who she grows to see as a mother figure. Be forced to learn self control or emotional discipline almost anything could work. If you wanted you could even have Raven get jealous of her mentor if you wanted to go that way.

Click to shrink...

Yes, she gets closer to Glynda Goodwitch as a mother figure. There's plenty you can do with this.

 

[GraveyardShift]

Which brings me to my point: Why would you choose a baby for your base template for cloning?

Click to shrink...

Ah see. This is how I know you didn't actually read all the way through and missed the finer details.

What I think I will do is have this project having been started up following the Faunus Revolution.

Much in the same way that Vacuians looked to Lady Artic to kickstart their Industrial Revolution and drag Vacuo kicking and screaming into a modern power. The Mistralians smarting from the loss in the Great War and the near loss against the Faunus are basically looking for a solution. Mantle and Atlas are having their civil war. (Because a peaceful transition after everything that's happening is stupid.)

Basically Vale is the only one who's come out of this era smelling of roses. Part of the reason why they felt comfortable enough to start the process of demilitarization. It's not complete by the time of RWBY proper but the military has been reduced considerably to garrison forces then an institution able to project power.

Click to shrink...

Just because Remnant's Tech level is supposedly beyond ours does NOT mean they are ahead of us in EVERY SINGLE WAY.

Throughout the World Wars in our timeline, advances were made in tech specifically in killing and lifesaving. NOT Eugenics, Genome Mapping, or DNA modification.

It took time and effort to shift research away from warfare and back into medical advances before we started cracking that.

Remnant is likely going to be the same way. Now they could probably get it done FASTER being ahead of us, but I sincerely doubt they already have that kind of tech on the table prior or during the Great War.

The conspiracy has been both seeking and attempting to guide certain bloodlines in the hopes of producing their chosen warrior. Pyrrha's mother Athena was supposedly of one such bloodline of ancient warriors long past. (Insert Kratos as Pyrrha's ancestor here claims.) They'd hoped that combining her bloodline with one of their agents would get them the result they were hoping for.

Click to shrink...

Now that they have the time and tech. They can start mucking with things.

Sure you could make a lot of money if you HAD the genome for Secretariate. But DO you have the complete Genome?

See 'Jurassic Park'.

They attempted to keep the dinosaurs sterilized by producing only females. The problem was their method of extracting DNA from amber resulted in incomplete sequences because Time is the truly unbeatable God of All. So they spliced it with relatively close frog DNA. The problem being is that the species of frogs they used if there are too many of one sex in one area will cause some to start spontaneously changing sex to even things out.

So guess what the Dinosaurs started doing? Life finds a way.

Even if the Conspiracy managed to get their hands on a sample of DNA. Remnant is not Earth in Fifth Element who CAN rebuild from an incomplete DNA sequence.

Seriously? Jumping to an alternate universe is your excuse? Now who's breaking suspension of disbelief?

Now it's been noted in that Jaune was a sickly child in this timeline. Isabel driving herself into a frenzy trying to save him.

Click to shrink...

Save this for later.

Pyrrha when she was born had the same condition. Athena basically spiraled and her husband, a conspiracy agent, convinced her to sent the child off to 'a specialist' which was just a conspiracy lab.

Click to shrink...

Oh look. Nepotism. A reason for faction friction within the Conspiracy.

The real Pyrrha Nikos died of complications in the lab. What the lab did do however is that they were able to isolate and correct the problems with Pyrrha. And so a clone of her with a corrected genome was returned to her mother. Otherwise unaltered aside from correcting the deficiency.

Now the project at this point decided to try and use the template they'd obtained from Pyrrha to start production since she was the first template they managed to get their hands on and the whole eugenics thing wasn't working out with a lot of their targets basically being defective similar to Pyrrha and Jaune. They already had a 'designer template' ready and so went to work.

Click to shrink...

Money, Time, and patience are not infinite commodities. At some point the project is likely to start getting pressure from its backer to produce something or funding will be cut.

See every science project gone wrong ever.

So the first several batches were sped grown just to see what the outcome would be. And realized they'd struck gold with EXACTLY they were looking for in Pyrrha. While the vast majority of Batches 1-4 died out due to being sped grown, three of which stubbornly cling to life even today. "The Fates" Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos.

These three often making decisions for which track each new batch of Myrmidons will take. And they are TERRIFYINGLY good at accurately identifying which of their sisters are best suited to which track. Hence why they are "The Fates".

Click to shrink...

Desperation cuts in. They decide to use what they have and got VERY LUCKY. The speed growth was simply as a preview to see what the final product WOULD have looked like.

Remember that the project is actively developing as they go along.

This also explains why The Fates have an older and decrepit appearance compared to the rest of the Myrmidons and are referred to as 'The Eldest Sisters'.

Batches 5 and onward are grown conventionally for the reasons listed out.

Click to shrink...

At this point they have what they need to start general production and experimental tweaking for other specialties. Speed growth is removed and all production onward is done conventionally for the reasons in YOUR post.

The only ones still alive with this modification are the Fates. See above.

It is actually the Fates who have been spinning tales of the 'Divine Mother' from who's flesh they were born from her sacrifice. Deifying the original Pyrrha who died. Claiming that one day, she shall resurrect from the underworld and lead them in a glorious Battle to end All Battles which will see the world reshaped into utopia. Which is their twisted version of what they've gleaned from the Conspiracy's intent with them. The conspiracy encourages this behavior.

Click to shrink...

Can't exactly deify a reborn messiah who conquered death to inspire your flock of their divinity if they haven't died. A key feature of many religions. And it's how the Fates have managed to get their younger sisters to fervently believe in their divine purpose.

It's not about pouring on the angst. It's about building a religion to run parallel to the Conspiracy's purpose.

Additionally with the original Pyrrha having suffered the same condition as Jaune can result in Isabel having dabbled a bit with the Conspiracy before parting ways. While she wasn't able to find anything to help Jaune prompting Salem to finally intervene in their 'deal' the conspiracy benefited a great deal from her in refining their process resulting in the latest batches being 'better' then normal. Perhaps something of a schism between the original runs and the 'Isabel' batches popping up.

Click to shrink...

And back to the link to Jaune. Another Mystery to add to the layer of what his Mother has been up to which is the core plot for Son's Revelations.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

When she opened her eyes again the world was dim and close. Rough rock above her. The low, steady sound of breathing that wasn't hers. Her head throbbed in time with her pulse, and every thought felt thick and slow, like she was trying to think through deep water.

A face swam into view above her. Blond. Worried. Blue eyes that kept flicking between her face and something just past her shoulder.

"Yang?" The voice was careful. "Can you hear me?"

She tried to answer. It came out as a rough sound.

"Easy. Don't sit up yet." A hand settled lightly on her shoulder, steady and warm. "I'm going to ask you a few questions. Just answer if you can. What's your name?"

She blinked at him. The answer should have been right there. It wasn't.

"…I don't…" Her voice cracked. Panic tried to rise. "I don't know."

His expression tightened for half a second before he smoothed it out. "Okay. That's okay. Do you know where you are?"

She looked past him at the uneven cave walls and the faint gray light coming from somewhere to her left. "A cave?"

"Good. That's good." He exhaled. "Do you remember how you got here?"

She tried. There was the shape of a fight—motion, noise, something heavy hitting her—but nothing that would hold still long enough to examine. She shook her head and immediately regretted it. Pain spiked behind her eyes.

"Alright." His hand stayed where it was, thumb moving once in a small, grounding circle. "You're safe. My name is Jaune Arc. You're Yang Xiao-Long. We're friends. Very good friends. We were on a training mission. Some Grimm found us. I got you in here. I'm keeping you safe. That's all you need to know right now."

Yang studied his face. He looked tired. There was a smear of dirt along his jaw and a fresh cut above one eyebrow that was still bleeding a little. He also looked like he meant every word.

"Am I… going to remember?" she asked. The question came out smaller than she wanted.

Jaune was quiet for a moment. Then he nodded. "Yeah. It's the hit and the shock. Your Aura's already working on it. It'll come back. You just have to give it time and trust me until it does."

Something moved outside the cave mouth. A low, wet growl. Then another.

Jaune's head turned. His shoulders went tight.

"Stay here," he said quietly. "Don't move unless you have to. I'll be right back."

He drew the sword that had been resting beside him and stepped out into the gray light. Yang heard the first Beowolf snarl, the sharp ring of metal on bone, the heavy thud of something hitting the ground. It didn't last long. Three quick exchanges, a final wet crunch, and then silence except for the wind.

When he came back his breathing was heavier, but his hands were steady as he sheathed the sword and crouched in front of her again.

"They're gone," he said. "For now. Come on."

He helped her deeper into the cave, one arm braced around her shoulders when her legs wobbled. The air was cooler farther in, the light thinner. He settled her against the wall with his cloak folded under her, then sat close enough that their shoulders touched.

"Just stay calm," he told her, voice low. "Relax. Trust me. I've got you. I sent out a distress signal, they're on their way to save us. We will be all right. Just hang in there with me, okay?"

Yang's face felt hot. She didn't know why. She only knew that the arm around her was solid and that the steady rise and fall of his chest was the only thing in the world that didn't feel like it might disappear if she looked away too long.

She shifted until she could lean into him properly, one hand curling into the front of his shirt.

"…Not like I have a lot of choice," she muttered.

Jaune huffed a quiet laugh. She felt it against her hair.

"You're recovering just fine," he said, and she could hear the smile in it.

The heat in her face got worse. She turned her head and pressed her forehead against his chest, hiding. His arm tightened around her, careful of the bruise she could already feel forming along her side.

Outside, the wind moved across the cave mouth. Inside, Yang closed her eyes and listened to his heartbeat, and for the first time since she woke up, the fear loosened its grip just a little.

She still didn't remember him.

But she believed him anyway.

---

I do have a big Lancaster post (NSFW) coming up, but... Damnit I just like these two together so much.

 

[Sift Green]

Ah see. This is how I know you didn't actually read all the way through and missed the finer details.

Click to shrink...

I red it. I understood it. I still disagree because all of those finer details do not detract from the point I was making. A point I feel like you didn't understand because of your later comments about Secretariat.

Just because Remnant's Tech level is supposedly beyond ours does NOT mean they are ahead of us in EVERY SINGLE WAY.

Throughout the World Wars in our timeline, advances were made in tech specifically in killing and lifesaving. NOT Eugenics, Genome Mapping, or DNA modification.

It took time and effort to shift research away from warfare and back into medical advances before we started cracking that.

Remnant is likely going to be the same way. Now they could probably get it done FASTER being ahead of us, but I sincerely doubt they already have that kind of tech on the table prior or during the Great War.

Click to shrink...

Remnant's Great War was not our World Wars. Just because our conflict didn't push us in those directions doesn't mean theirs didn't.

You have things like the Silver Eyes and inheritable semblances after all. Traits connected to genetics that can make people weapons of war. Genome mapping and DNA modification would have been very interesting to all of the governments involved in a global conflict.

Now that they have the time and tech. They can start mucking with things.

Sure you could make a lot of money if you HAD the genome for Secretariate. But DO you have the complete Genome?

See 'Jurassic Park'.

They attempted to keep the dinosaurs sterilized by producing only females. The problem was their method of extracting DNA from amber resulted in incomplete sequences because Time is the truly unbeatable God of All. So they spliced it with relatively close frog DNA. The problem being is that the species of frogs they used if there are too many of one sex in one area will cause some to start spontaneously changing sex to even things out.

So guess what the Dinosaurs started doing? Life finds a way.

Even if the Conspiracy managed to get their hands on a sample of DNA. Remnant is not Earth in Fifth Element who CAN rebuild from an incomplete DNA sequence.

Seriously? Jumping to an alternate universe is your excuse? Now who's breaking suspension of disbelief?

Click to shrink...

My point with Secretariat and the alternate timeline is that without his racing record Secretariat's genome is not an obvious winner. There were a lot of things that made Secretariat a weird horse. Those things would show up in his DNA, and any lab that could successfully model his wireless wouldn't necessarily think that those weird things were good things, even though the real life record shows that they were.

So without a proven real life record could pass on the greatest race horse to yet live.

The same thing would be true of an OG Dead Baby Pyrrha. Everything about her would be theoreticals to the conspirators extrapolated from her DNA sequence. Why deal in theoreticals when there are other DNA sequences from huntsmen and gladiators with long and well-proven records letting the conspirators know how the DNA expresses itself in the material world?

And your Jurassic Park tangent is irrelevant because the conspirators are working with the Human Genome. There are tons of humans around whose DNA can be used to fill in gaps of a genetic sequence, especially accomplished Huntresses and Gladiatrices.

Save this for later.

Click to shrink...

You want to give Jaune and Pyrrha a connection through shared sickness. That is an interesting idea, but is ultimately unnecessary.

Oh look. Nepotism. A reason for faction friction within the Conspiracy.

Click to shrink...

Once again interesting, but ultimately unnecessary. Especially if Athena and her husband were hired by the conspiracy to play the role of Pyrrha's parents.

Money, Time, and patience are not infinite commodities. At some point the project is likely to start getting pressure from its backer to produce something or funding will be cut.

See every science project gone wrong ever.



Desperation cuts in. They decide to use what they have and got VERY LUCKY. The speed growth was simply as a preview to see what the final product WOULD have looked like.

Remember that the project is actively developing as they go along.

This also explains why The Fates have an older and decrepit appearance compared to the rest of the Myrmidons and are referred to as 'The Eldest Sisters'.

Click to shrink...

Your plot outline put the foundation of this conspiracy at the end of The Great War, meaning the conspirators have already committed themselves to a work of generations and with it still being around in the present they had to have laid the foundations of their conspiracy right. Your outline also had the conspiracy doing pseudo-selective breeding of humans in the background with their nudging people they thought had desirable traits together. That is an endeavor that takes MORE time and patience than the methodology I am preposing.

Making the real Pyrrha the end product instead of the genesis also fits better with the timescale you proposed than making her the genesis does.

At this point they have what they need to start general production and experimental tweaking for other specialties. Speed growth is removed and all production onward is done conventionally for the reasons in YOUR post.

The only ones still alive with this modification are the Fates. See above.

Click to shrink...

And my point was that accelerated aging could taint the preview. And once again the timescale of conspiracy forms right after The Great War and is still going strong enough to fund an army means there is no reason to rush anything because the founders of the conspiracy had already committed themselves to a task that would take generations.

Can't exactly deify a reborn messiah who conquered death to inspire your flock of their divinity if they haven't died. A key feature of many religions. And it's how the Fates have managed to get their younger sisters to fervently believe in their divine purpose.

It's not about pouring on the angst. It's about building a religion to run parallel to the Conspiracy's purpose.

Click to shrink...

A messiah who conquered death is a Christian thing. Not a Hellenic thing. In fact most messianic figures across most of real world history and religions are not spiritual messiahs meant to conquer death but rather material messianic figures meant to upend the status quo and free their people from political bondage.

And back to the link to Jaune. Another Mystery to add to the layer of what his Mother has been up to which is the core plot for Son's Revelations.

Click to shrink...

And I think this is the real reason we're not going to be seeing eye to eye on this matter. Adapting the idea to fit that premise takes it in a radically different direction from the one me and Hahoalki see it going if/when we get around to our own takes on the idea.

In fact I think the direction you want to take it is different enough that you might be better off ignoring the bulk of what Hahoalki and I have put together for this idea and building your own stuff from the ground up.



So the TLDR is: I didn't misunderstand you. I disagreed with you. There's a difference. And in this case this disagreement might be a good thing because if we go in different directions our takes on Pyrrha clones should be distinct enough that nobody will confuse your story with ours.