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Trump Card (Worm AU) [Complete]

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Ack, Sep 2, 2014.

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  1. Asheram

    Asheram Know what you're doing yet?

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    When you get used to your powers then you start to forget about safety. Lee was never the sharpest tool in the shed and I can easily see him rushing in with a live grenade to make a quick clone teleport bounce around the enemy, letting go of the grenade and cloning away just before detonation.
     
  2. Valor

    Valor Versed in the lewd.

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    Every fucking time there's a grand showdown, I can't help but think about the millions in damage nd' shit they do to the city.

    "Good job... Heroes."

    Great chapter, tho.
     
  3. Xilph

    Xilph Well worn.

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    So my predictions on Panacea being able to go technopath were probably correct? Panacea tinker 12 when? Actually, Hax copies Panacea's power once for healing capabilities, happens to be wearing armour. Hax with Panacea's power with all the exploits laid out in a suit that lets tech count as biological material, striker 13?
     
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  4. Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    The idea is this. He's outside. Readies a grenade, pulls the pin. (More than 20 yards away, so Hax doesn't detect him).

    Version 1: Still outside. Sends version 2 inside. Five seconds later, crumbles to ash.
    One second later:
    Version 2, just inside the door, face to face with Hax. Sends version 3 farther in. Drops grenade by the door.
    Version 3, farther in, next to U&L. Sends version 4 outside. Drops grenade by U&L.
    Version 4 is outside when the two grenades go off (Uber kicked his into the cashier's cage).
    Version 4 sends Version 5 inside, crumbles to ash.
    Version 5 opens the door, sends Version 6 to confront U&L while Lung goes after Hax.
    Version 6 sends Version 7 outside, drops the grenade.
    Version 7 sends Version 8 inside to U&L. Taylor activates teleport jam.
    Version 8 tries to send Version 9 outside, drops grenade.
    Version 9 never makes it, grenade explodes. Whoops.

    Nearly all the damage was to the casino and abandoned buildings. :p

    And besides, they're villains :D
     
  5. Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    Probably not technopath.

    Though if Panacea had engineering training, so she knew what she was looking at ...

    Though no, I'd probably rule that she just can't affect it.
     
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  6. Xilph

    Xilph Well worn.

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    I mean, you had regeneration work on power armour, Panacea's super bio senses applying to tech wouldn't be surprising in the slightest.

    Of course the most OP direct steal is still Eidolon, considering a good part of his issues were lack of understanding of his power if Taylor got it complete with manual? that is just broken, although something with the Manton Field generator probably trumps though, so many powers have that as a core limitation.
     
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  7. Muroshi9

    Muroshi9 I'm so ronery So ronery So ronery and sadly arone

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    So we know Bonesaw can combine capes she just needs to capture Bonesaw and combine her with Panacea with Panacea's mind in control of the combined body much like when Hatchet Face was the mind in control of Hackjob after the addition of Oni Lee. Then add Browbeat for self biokinesis.
     
  8. Fishyface

    Fishyface Not too sore, are you?

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    He wasn't stupid enough to do that in canon because it's too risky. He didn't even use any grenades against the Undersiders. He couldn't have lasted that long with that level of self preservation. And on the off chance dirt gets into his eyes he dies like an idiot. He couldn't have always gotten lucky either.

    Also in canon he always teleports away before attacking. His got 15-20 seconds. No need to rush.
     
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  9. Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    I thought it was about 5-10 seconds. Not 15-20.

    Anyway, he was jumping in and out of the building, sending the new clone away before dropping the grenade. He just didn't know that the teleport jammer was in effect, and that his duplicate never appeared outside. So he dropped the grenade, and .... boom.
     
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  10. jcogginsa

    jcogginsa Versed in the lewd.

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    Much better. Though i'm fairly sure Lung's power doesn't make him dumber. I know it amps up his senses to the extreme, which logically would mean his mental faculties improve
     
  11. Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    I said nothing about it making him dumber. He just got angry because she beat him at being a dragon.

    And where does that logic come from? Eagles have far better eyesight, wolves have far better hearing, bloodhounds have far better smell. Humans outperform all of them at mental faculties.
     
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  12. jcogginsa

    jcogginsa Versed in the lewd.

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    My bad, misread a part of the early fight. The line i objected to was actually referring to Oni Lee's power not Lung's
     
  13. Fishyface

    Fishyface Not too sore, are you?

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    It's LoS. That was his weakness. He has to see to make the clone so he also has to see it appear first.

    Also Tattletale was the one who posted the 15-20 seconds on the wiki Taylor was checking.
     
  14. doomlord9

    doomlord9 Experienced.

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    It's dependent on how he actually feels his power working. Likely it isn't via sight and instead he can feel his power activating, plus there is likely no mental link between his clone and the original to give him any feedback on if it had worked or not.

    With his power dulling his intellect and it having never failed before, he feels his power activate, or begin to activate, then releases the grenade as per normal since he believes he is going to turn to ash soon, and dies as the creation of the clone is jammed rather than blocking his power itself from activating, giving him a false positive signal on his power working.
     
  15. Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    1) His power lets him be a serial suicide bomber.
    2) He gets dumber as he goes along.

    Yeah, no, this can never go wrong.
    Citation on line of sight?
    Where is this?
    God, how would you feel, experiencing your death a dozen times a day? Yeah, no, probably no mental link. He's just used to it happening.
    Boom. Splat.
     
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  16. Threadmarks: Omake: Highlights
    Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    A quick and not entirely serious preview of the highlights of next chapter:

    Piggot, viewing the video: "Meep?"
    RCB, on the phone: "Aren't you glad you didn't make an enemy of her?"

    Clockblocker: "BULLLLSHIIIIT!"

    PHO boards: "Kaiju fight!"

    Lung: "NYAAAARRRRGH!"

    Oni Lee: (slowly dribbles down wall)

    Kaiser: "Find out if Hax is Aryan. We want to recruit her."
    Kreig: "And if she's against us?"
    Kaiser: "Prepare to leave town."

    Aegis: "Y'know ... I think she went easy on us."
    Vista: "So do I."

    Glory Girl: "Well, dang. And I dissed her."

    Skidmark: "Duuuude. This is gooood shit. I just thought I saw Lung fighting himself on TV."
    Squealer: "That wasn't a trip. Lung just got his ass kicked by another dragon."
    Skidmark: "That leaves only one thing to do." (takes a huge hit on his joint)

    Tattletale: "You know, if they'd kept fighting, they just would have kept getting bigger and bigger."
    Regent: "I know, isn't it cool?"
    Grue: "Lisa, you should stop introducing us to such SCARY PEOPLE!"

    Lung's shard: (lies back and lights up a metaphorical cigarette) “God damn, that was good.”
    L33t's shard: “I know, right?”
    Uber's shard: “Just don't get any ideas. She's with us.”
    Hax's shard: (cuddling up to all of them) “Boys, don't fight. You're all pretty.”
     
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  17. Fishyface

    Fishyface Not too sore, are you?

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    Hive 5.7


    Anyone else would be dead by now, but the fact that the body had exploded into dust meant it was just a clone, a leftover remaining behind after Oni Lee had teleported away. He probably wasn’t remaining in one place for more than a second. My bet was that he was appearing, immediately looking for a new target or vantage point, then making a quick exit, leaving the clone to do the deed.- According to Taylor

    Also his always looking around through the whole battle.


    Worm Wiki


    Essentially, he can create another version of himself anywhere within his line of sight.
     
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  18. Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    Yeah, Worm Wiki isn't the best of resources.

    I'm going with the idea that he usually uses LoS, but he doesn't specifically need it, that he can blind jump if he has to.
     
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  19. seeing_octarine

    seeing_octarine Unverified Colour

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    The problem with blind teleports is that it comes with a ton of fridge logic. Either it means he has local omniscience, or has some other way to sense his surroundings outside line of sight, or is extremely likely to telefrag himself, or it isn't working as a teleport power from his point of view (see Redshift from Intrepid for an example), or he'd fall flat on his ass every time he does it. And all of that for Oni Lee ranges from "extremely implausible" to "contradicted by canon".
     
  20. doomlord9

    doomlord9 Experienced.

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    Kinda sorta. A blind jump could be as simply as he tries to activate his power, he gets back an 'Invalid Location, Not Enough Space' error when there is something where he would appear and tries again and again until it works, randomly selecting directions and distances until he finds one that works. LoS just makes it easier because he knows that said spot is open and doesn't have to bother with trial and error.

    Which also explains how he would have failed here with the jammer active. He got a positive return on his power activating and since it has never failed before, went with SoP without knowing that the jammer scrambled the creation of the clone.
     
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  21. Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    This is the guy who wasn't human enough to measure up as a member of the Nine. He blows himself up on a regular occasion; every time he teleports, he 'kills' himself.

    And that, yeah. :D
     
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  22. Fishyface

    Fishyface Not too sore, are you?

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    It's definitely LoS.

    Back to Hive 5.7 also known as canon:

    I knew his power was a hybrid between duplicating himself and teleportation. He could teleport, but when he did, he left a body behind that could act autonomously for a few seconds. So when I saw him glance out the window, I followed his line of sight, and saw he had already appeared just behind Bitch, half-crouching on Brutus’ back, one hand on a hook of bone to help him balance. There was a flash of steel in his other hand as he reached around her throat with a blade.

    Anyone else would be dead by now, but the fact that the body had exploded into dust meant it was just a clone, a leftover remaining behind after Oni Lee had teleported away. He probably wasn’t remaining in one place for more than a second. My bet was that he was appearing, immediately looking for a new target or vantage point, then making a quick exit, leaving the clone to do the deed.
     
  23. Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    I'm not disputing that he uses line of sight. It's a smart way to go in an open-air battle, especially when it lets him locate his next target or vantage point.

    But I can rewrite it a little if it breaks your SoD that badly.

    (I note that you're not offering a way to fix it. I could, if I wished, ignore what you are saying. But I'll fix it anyway.)
     
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    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    Okay, this is what I've changed the opening part to:

    This is the sequence of events:

    Oni Lee has a short-fuse grenade. He will only drop it once he's teleported away.

    Minion strolls up to the door with shotgun loaded with slugs. Blows a hole in door. Oni Lee looks through the hole, sees a spot inside the room next to the door that he can teleport to. He does so, teleports on. The clone left next to Taylor drops the grenade. It goes off almost immediately.

    In the meantime, across the room, he's ended up next to Uber and L33t and teleports back to the door just after the first grenade goes off. The clone left with U&L drops a grenade as well. Uber kicks it into the cashier's cage.

    The clone at the door teleports back to U&L after that grenade goes off; the one left at the door opens it for Lung. Lung comes in and starts beating on Taylor.

    Oni Lee shuttles back to U&L, drops a grenade, jumps to the door, waits for the grenade to go off, then jumps back to them once more.

    He's about to teleport away again when Taylor triggers the teleport jammer. He tries to run, Uber shoots him in the arm with his plasma rifle, he drops the grenade. It goes off at his feet.
     
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  25. Adyen

    Adyen Experienced.

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    Eh. The only one who is 100% sure of canon is the author, especially considering that it's written in 1st person so we are never really sure of the guesses Taylor makes in the story are 100% true or not.
     
  26. Ack

    Ack (Verified Ratbag) (Unverified Great Old One)

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    Well, there's enough mention of him using LoS in a fight for me to consider it worthwhile to do it that way. In any case, all it required was a hole in the door.
     
  27. Fishyface

    Fishyface Not too sore, are you?

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    Sorry about that. I thought of suggesting him being blinded by smoke or maybe shrapnel from the fight then getting shot or something.
     
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  28. inverted_helix

    inverted_helix Connoisseur.

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    Honestly even if he does need LoS for teleports I don't think it really makes a difference to him blowing himself up. If the previous 1000 times it worked fine, I very much doubt he's going to notice and react in time when this time the teleport didn't fire before he drops the grenade.

    If something works every time you're going to start assuming it's going to work this time.
     
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  29. ViperhawkZ

    ViperhawkZ Emperor of Kanata

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    Lee's mind has been gutted by his power, as well. He's basically a soulless shell at this point. I could easily excuse a fuckup like this based on the fact that he's basically walking unconscious.
     
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  30. Fishyface

    Fishyface Not too sore, are you?

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    It's not that bad. If it was Lung would pretty much be his full time babysitter. Can you imagine how awful that would be?

    Lung- Don't forget to pack your grenades again. You remember what happened the last time?
    Lee- *forgets*
    Lung- *swears*
     
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