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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

    Darko Experienced.

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    The War in Heaven happened millions of years ago in the 40k universe, like during the time of the dinosaurs if I remember correctly.

    The Emperor is just 48.000 years old, so no humanity isn't older than the Eldar.

    They weren't even around back then.
     
  2. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Ah, I guess I misremembered it. I just tied the shamens inability to reincarnate with the War in Heaven.
     
  3. Ardy

    Ardy Not too sore, are you?

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    The Eldar were created either during or pre war in Heaven, but definitely became the OP BS they were during the war in heaven. The war in heaven ended 60 million years ago because that’s how long the necrons have been asleep. Which is significantly older then the 50,000 year old Emperor.

    edit: ninja’d
     
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  4. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    So... exiled Eldar then?
     
  5. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I'm curious and this HBO green lantern show. I kinda question is a tv series has the budget to do Larnerns justice.

    I heard it's focusing on Guy, Alan, and an OC.
     
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  6. DrThoth

    DrThoth Not too sore, are you?

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    My knowledge of 40K isn't extensive, but I was thinking Eldrad, yes. I get the impression that Exodites would be too insular to want anything to do with him or any xeno race.

    Some Harlequins might also be interested in him since he's a new piece on the board, metaphorically speaking. In practical terms, there might be a Corsair fleet he can create a temporarily mutually beneficial relationship with or something. Yvraine is willing to work with humans against Chaos, though I don't think the timeline works out for her to be involved (though she was also a Corsair for a time, so that could be fun).

    I suppose I'd like a narrative parallel with Paul's Fantasy iteration, though I don't have much interest in seeing the exact same thing as a psychically reconstructed femme fatale love interest.
     
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  7. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Yeah, but it's Nu52 Alan, so I don't care.
     
  8. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I had my reasons for wanting to like that version of Alan, and Sam was cute AF, and I liked his ring being his wedding ring....but then they squandered everything. What they didn't squander, the straight up ruined.
     
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  9. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Eldrad would kill Paul.

    Always remember, Eldrad can read the timelines, so he knows Paul is in the process of going insane and being corrupted by Chaos.
     
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  10. Doccer

    Doccer Know what you're doing yet?

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    Hiw do you know what the next segments are called ahead of time?
     
  11. Darko

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    On the first page Zoat adds spoiler tags with the number and names of the episodes, and adds links in those tags for the chapters.

    The next episode is on a new spoiler tag, and the first two chapters have been given names.
     
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  12. Doccer

    Doccer Know what you're doing yet?

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    Ok thanks. I thought those were just for the done chapters.
     
  13. Coda

    Coda I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    wants to retire

    drops

    I keep hearing people bring this up like some point of pedantry, but... it's not true. While it's true that dissecting something that isn't alive isn't a vivisection, the converse isn't necessarily true. "dis-" "-sect" just means "cut apart," and a vivisection is a dissection performed upon a live specimen.
     
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  14. Threadmarks: Gothamghast (part 1)
    Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Over Reaching

    [​IMG] May 7th 2012, 09:41 GMT -5 [​IMG]

    "Hey, Arte! You skipping school too, huh?"

    The human-. Running… Guy. Flash something. Flash Kid? God, this is annoying-.

    He's looking at me. He's expecting me to answer and I… Probably know him?

    "My school's still closed."

    I walk past him, still looking around. It's like visiting someplace I used to know really well but haven't seen in-. It's exactly like that, because that's what I'm doing. Not that anyone looking at me would know that. Dad taught me how to hide emotion, but the Sheeda taught me how to make it instinctual.

    Is it messed up that I remember exactly what Dad looks like but whenever I look at Mom I keep trying to work out why this strange woman is talking to me?

    "Did you get taller?"

    He's following me. Is that-? I… Kinda remember him… Being.. annoying? But I don't remember if he was trying to start something or just had bad people skills.

    "And buffer? And what's with your hair?"

    "Sheeda hair care products."

    "Ah." He stops walking as I carry on through the cave. Some of this is coming back to- "Are you okay?" -me.

    I stop and.. take a quick glance at him, trying to read his body language. Were we close, before? How much is it useful to share-? No, that's… Sheeda-thinking. He's just being friendly.

    "I'm.. a new normal."

    "Normal… Good-normal?"

    I turn to face him, folding my arms across my chest.

    "We were in the future for a long time. I've changed."

    "Are we talking… Like, a few weeks?" … "Months?"

    "More like decades. Maybe longer." He blinks, his eyes widening. "We didn't have a good way to measure time. But I'm pretty sure I've spent more of my life in the Land of Summer's End than I have in the-." Don't use the Sheeda term. "In now."

    "Oh. Ah… How are you… Y'know, handling being back?"

    "Fine." I turn away. I think the kitchen was that way. "If you give me an hour or two I might even remember your name."

    "Really? Whaw." This w-. "Always figured I was more memorable than that."

    "What do you remember from a hundred years ago?"

    "That's more than eighty years before I was born, so not all that much. But, seriously, are you okay?"

    "Not yet. Grayven says I should try to ease back into my.. old life."

    I wait for the door's bio-.

    I push the definitely-not-alive door open and walk into the kitchen-diner.

    Can't even get the doors.

    No one else is here, but Flash Kid is still following me. Only now he's pulled his mask off his face. I take a close look at his face, and I spot the moment he realises that it isn't helping and I still don't recognise him.

    "Oh."

    I try smiling, but I'm not really in the mood and I don't think it comes across quite right. He's not looking at me, and that's fine b-.

    Because with Sheeda that's a sign of respect. If he were Sheeda, he'd be treating me a little more like his supreme overlady. And that feels normal. But it's not normal because we were probably friends, and with humans looking away… Means you find something awkward?

    I pull open one of the drawers. Egg cups, vegetable peelers and pastry cutters. Did I ever open this drawer when I used to work here? I think I remember cooking, but… I think that was at… 'Home'. It's kinda weird that none of the appliances are alive, but I always found it kinda weird when they were, too. Sure didn't do a lot of cooking in the Land of Summer's End.

    "So, are you..? Staying on the team?"

    Am I? I thought it was the thing to do. The only alternative would have been staying in the future. I mean, this… Was my life. Or-.

    "It's that or conquer the world with Grayven again."

    'cause at least I can remember Grayven's name. But there's no… Big purpose. Back in the future we were trying to fix the planet. I don't think conquering the world now would fix anything. And it's not like I liked being in charge. I just liked it better than any of them being in charge.

    "Ye-ah… Don't do that?" He frowns. "Like, the whole world whole world?"

    "I conquered half of it. He conquered the other half." Ttch. "We didn't realise that the we were in control of both major alliances until we were actually facing each other down in one of my fortresses."

    "Bet… That was awkward?"

    "I was just happy he wasn't dead."

    The fridge I think I remember. Or at least I remember fridges in general. But the noise from the compressor is putting me on edge. Sheeda coolers don't sound like that.

    "Guess you two got pretty close then."

    "Pretty close."

    I wonder if Mom would mind living in Challenger Mountain? Gotham-. It's not my home any more, and being away from Grayven just feels wrong. And I know he feels the same way. I got a room there yesterday-.

    Huh.

    "Do I have a room here?"

    "Yeah, most of us do. I don't really know if you did anything with it. You.. don't remember?"

    How can I even explain this? For him, this was all yesterday.

    "You ever moved house?"

    "Not since I was five, but, yeah?"

    "You remember your old room?"

    He screws up his face, pantomiming straining to remember.

    "Kinda? A little?"

    "Now imagine what you'd remember from ten times as far in the future. Or a hundred times, and you've been moving every year."

    "Probably not much."

    "Right." What now? I wanna do a tour of the place, and 'my' room is probably a good place to start. "Can you show me where it is?"

    "Sure. This way."

    He heads back out the door, and for a moment I frown at the door on the other side of the diner. I think there's a pool through there? Why would we have a pool? I shake my head and turn around to follow Flash Kid-.

    "It's Wally."

    "What is?"

    "My name. It's Wally. Or Kid Flash, when we're on a mission."

    I nod. Doesn't ring any bells, but at least I know who I'm talking to now.

    "And… Ah… Have you..? Spoken to Tao yet?"



    Oh. That's why people look away from things.
     
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  15. Ardy

    Ardy Not too sore, are you?

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    This is really sad and I want more
     
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  16. OrigamiPhoenix

    OrigamiPhoenix Making the rounds.

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    Ooh, is the whole episode going to be from Artemis' perspective?
     
  17. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Just the first two parts, with maybe one last near the end.
     
  18. DrThoth

    DrThoth Not too sore, are you?

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    I think it's far too late to share my thoughts now, but I do feel my suspension of disbelief straining the more I actually think about this whole Renegade-Artemis situation, even though I do find it quite compelling as a storyline. Given New God's essentially infinite lifespan, I'd imagine they have some kind of better long-term memory than regular people; no other long-lived or immortal people throughout the story seem to have similar issues, in any case.
    Did Artemis not try keeping a journal or memoir when she first realized she was forgetting things about Earth and her past life? I imagine the Vampire Sun does make that trickier, so was she just worried about the potential vulnerabilities/leaks of using whatever the Sheeda use for making records?
    This update does solidify my opinion that she should break it off with Tao (I believe in a previous update she said she was trying to make things work). The gap in life experience and age is just too great for me to be comfortable with, at least for another decade or so on his part.
     
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  19. Darko

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    'kind of'

    Seriously hopes she gets some therapy after this, she really needs it.
     
  20. Old Knife

    Old Knife Know what you're doing yet?

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    I hate this. I have my interested in a hundred different directions and I can't pick just one.
     
  21. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Not too sore, are you?

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    Woah, that was well written, got me in the feels. And perfectly reasonable way to feel in the circumstances.

    kinds -> kinda
     
  22. Darko

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    Artemis and renegade are not ordinary New Gods.

    Artemis was an ordinary human before being transformed into a New God, and renegade was a soulless human before getting a New God soul.

    Even if regular New Gods have a great memory, they may not have gotten that.

    Also most other immortals probably weren't separated from the people they knew for decades, centuries or even millenia, and the ones that were, like Calliope, well we haven't seen all that much of them so we don't know how they reacted once they got back.

    Other immortals can also regularly interact with people they know, so they don't lose their memories of them.
     
  23. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Surprised she doesn't just ask one of the G-gnomes to fix her up.
     
  24. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    I knew it!
     
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  25. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Angry, frustrated Artemis was not something I thought I needed but now I do.



    She is an uplifted New God, not a born one.

    Most likely. She coukdn't trust anyone but Grayven after all.

    Agreed. One being a young adukt and one probably centuries older is icky.
     
  26. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    At least Grayven has a ring to backup his memory. He should get one for Arte.
     
  27. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  28. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey Not too sore, are you?

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    The circumstances have a lot to do with that. Not long after suddenly being cut off from every part of her whole life aside from Grayven, she was cut off from him too. Nothing familiar and no way to mark the passing of days. The discontinuity is why she's forgotten.
    Basically the Artemis they knew is long dead.
     
  29. Sorrow

    Sorrow Making the rounds.

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    yeah, because having someone rooting around in your HEAD is something you really want.
     
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    Artemis started as a human and became more and more New God with time. Remember that she lacks a MotherBox and or Fatherbox to help her remember things.

    Her memory is probably better nowadays but most of her memories from life on Earth are of her life as human so... they probably are not as strong as memories formed as a New God.
     
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