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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Keep in mind Zoat nerfed Amazo by a large amount in this story.
     
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  2. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Zoat said that Rimbor was in an area of space the Kroloteans controlled, do of course they'd hear about it, but that doesn't mean others would.

    The Reach only came to Earth five years after the attack on Rimbor, so they may still not know about it.

    And again, even if the Reach know about it there's no reason the Reach Paul has met would know about it or have it on their records.
     
  3. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 Not too sore, are you?

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    Citation? Because last time I checked Amazo was just kind of trash compared to the other versions in Young Justice anyways.
     
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  4. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Oh he was kind of trash.

    But Zoat made him more trash. Instead of copying power rings he just had him fake it with forcefield.
     
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  5. Coda

    Coda I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I read that as an explanation of why he was trash instead of something that makes him more trash. That is Zoat's style, after all.

    (For that matter, it's mine, as well.)
     
  6. Threadmarks: Peacehammer (part 1)
    Mr Zoat

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    3rd Brauzeit 2512
    Mid-Afternoon


    I look slightly awkwardly at my guests.

    "I'm… Sorry, but I think there's been.. a miscommunication."

    Ambassador of the Phoenix Court Prince Sharvan the Poet was… Okay, I can't say was, because while as an ambassador he has his instinctual rudeness under control compared to many of his countrymen he can still be more than a little haughty. He appeared to be satisfied with the result of my initial discussions with Queen Khalida, and sent a somewhat vaguely worded note indicating that he was condescending to aid me in another matter we had previously discussed.

    There were a grand total of two things I risked discussing with him, and the embassy was one of them.

    "I admit that I may have been unclear in my request, but…"

    The other was my offer to investigate the underlying cause of the collapse in Ulthuanian birth rates.

    "I rather thought that if he accepted my offer that he would send a… Couple who were attempting to conceive?"

    The woman introduced to me by my usher as Fillinno of Everwatch narrows her eyes slightly. "We have attempted to conceive."

    My eyes unavoidably drift to the other woman, Macese of Angerrial. Because if it turns out to be that simple, I'm going to be astonished.

    "With..? One another? Because-."

    "Obviously not."

    "Alright. Um. Well, thank you for agreeing to participate-."

    "We have agreed to nothing. Our Prince bade us come and so we have come, but I have no intention of submitting to your ill-educated prodding."

    I nod. "Because naturally you are at least somewhat acquainted with the state of human medicine in the Empire and are quite reasonably sceptical that I would have anything to offer that had not already been attempted."

    "Just so. As if a human could understand the bodies of elfish women better than the physicians of the White Tower or the priestesses of Moonspire." She manages a condescending smile. "I am satisfied that you at least recognise your folly."

    "But I'm afraid that you're missing something, which suggests to me that you don't actually know who I am."

    She scoffs.

    "You cannot be so conceited as to believe that there is a quality unique to you which allows you to defy all reason."

    "Oh, no." I raise my hands in mock surrender. "No, there's little special about me. True, I had the advantage of growing up in a country more technologically advanced than anything on this planet, but it wasn't me who made it so. I could talk to you about stem cells and chromosomes, but I didn't discover them."

    I turn my left hand around and focus my desires on making my point as clearly as possible.

    "This ring was made by a species who were peers of the Old Ones. They made them for much the same reason that the Old Ones taught High Magic to your forebears: because they felt that with a little improvement we could become useful to them. Not as equals, but as valued servants. And if you want initial proof-."

    "Your speech." Macese nods. "Humans do not customarily speak Eltharin with the accent of Calador. Nor so clearly as you do."

    "My sponsors could hardly be expected to learn my language, so they ensured that communication would never be a problem for their ring-bearers. I can be understood by and understand anyone with a common frame of reference. Words or concepts with no equivalent may not work, but English to Eltharin is simple."

    "What manner of place speaks 'English'?"

    I create a globe displaying the continents of Earth.

    "My own dear homeworld, on the far side of the Gates." They both look warily at the construct, though I spot Fillinno taking in every detail of the landmasses. "So when I say that you haven't heard of me, perhaps I should instead say that you haven't heard of what I've achieved with this ring."

    Fillinno reaches out with her right hand and pokes the construct, presumably to see whether or not it's an illusion. When it resists the pressure she applies she lowers her hand with a nod.

    "How will this tool aid this investigation?"

    I wave my left hand, dismissing the globe and replacing it with a construct image of her, internal organs included.

    "I can detect substances in your body in quantities too minute to detect with any means you may be familiar with. And I can monitor them constantly, without the need to actually extract blood or other fluids or tissues. Should you become pregnant, I can monitor the foetus at every stage of its development so that if something goes wrong I will at least be able to guess at what it might be. And should the Ambassador be successful in gathering the data I requested, I can tabulate five thousand years' worth of birth records and track trends in seconds because something's changed, and historical records are the best place to work out when it started."

    "And what do you need of us?"

    "Your permission to study you. Though I haven't taken any oaths myself, I'm trying to practise medicine to an ethical code that the physicians in my home country would accept. I'm not going to scan you in detail without your express permission and I'm going to answer any question you have about any part of the process. Do I have your permission?"

    "What else would you have us do?"

    "Encourage other elves to give me permission to study them. My current sample size is too small, and I'm getting… Unrepresentative results."

    "Who has already placed their wombs in your hands?"

    "A small village in Mousillon. The elven inhabitants were seafarers who liked the place so much that they decided to stay. Out of fourteen women, discounting one who mates exclusively with a local human and two who exclusively keep the company of women, two years after the founding of the settlement, all of the rest either are or have been pregnant."

    Which -even given the higher Dark Elf birth rates- was strange enough that Aranei asked if I was doing something to make it happen. As far as I know I wasn't, and the birth rate amongst the local humans and beastwomen remains the same as it was before. Apparently, Dark Elves usually ritually sacrifice slaves when they want to have children, and since the High Elves in theory don't allow slavery that's not really an option for them.

    Might be worth trying at some point. Aranei was sketchy on the details, but I've got a lot of orcs and beastmen to kill. It's a shame not to get some use out of them.

    Fillinno straightens up slightly and Macese frowns.

    "Eleven births in two years?"

    "Nine children born, with several pregnancies ongoing. They're… Scaling back their potentially-reproductive sexual activity now that they're aware that something is boosting fertility rates. Having studied them, I haven't… There's nothing that stands out as odd going on in their bodies. Human and elf pregnancies proceed in a fairly similar way, so I've been using humans as a model."

    With good harvests and no monster attacks, the human inhabitants of my village are experiencing a bit of a population boost as well. We're going to honestly be able to call it a town before too long.

    "But I'm still going to need to examine your male lovers, in case whatever causes the difference is in their bodies."

    Macese nods. "And when you are done, what then?"

    "Depending on what the problem is, I can correct it or keep it in abeyance or… If it's a matter of diet or something like that, I will suggest changes to your lifestyles to work around it. That's basically what I've offered the dwarfs, though their problem is.. far simpler than yours appears to be."

    "Explain."

    "Low number of female births combined with quite a lot of warfare. Their actual birth rate isn't the problem, they just can't make good on their losses generation to generation." I shrug. "Even closeting their females isn't enough. I could fix that by modifying the testicles of male dwarfs so that they sired more daughters, but I didn't get any volunteers. In the case of High Elves, the fact that women fight on the front lines is probably having an effect, but that's not a new development so I don't think it can be what's causing the issue."

    "No." Macese considers for a moment. "I will consent, on the understanding that this information is for you alone. And I will direct my lovers to visit you."

    "Thank you. And you, Fillinno?"

    "I will wait. I wish to visit your village first."

    I nod. I'll let Aranei get out the dresses without skulls on them.
     
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  7. Mr Zoat

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    She was trying to control his drones in the same way she destroyed his sword.
     
  8. Darko

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    'to come'

    'have no'

    Ehh, given their powers and intelligence they may have been able to easily learn it.

    'with a'

    Are these elves the dark elves he mind whammied?

    I know he's in a relationship with one of them.

    Yeah, if they keep having children then their resources may be depleted.

    'and no'

    Did anyone else get some porn vibes from this?
     
  9. Rebu

    Rebu hey, little Anna, you're the one

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    There was a Darwin award honorable mention about something like this, IIRC. Straight couple came to a doctor and wondered why they hadn't been able to conceive.

    It turned out they had both been rather undereducated on reproductive matters and were, shall we say, trying to make a deposit in the wrong account.
     
  10. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Every Paul everywhere ends up getting semi-immortal women pregnant...

    Is that even still just a GILF fetish or something more?
     
  11. NightmareWarden

    NightmareWarden Not too sore, are you?

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    Peacehammer Fantasy (which isn’t Age of Sigmar)! Today we are using the greatest tool in the multiverse (on par with magic) to see if Paul is avaricious enough to ensure elf babies are born whole and hearty.

    Also it sounds like the dwarven men need their testicles modified to site girls while dwarves women need their eggs modified to develop twins (or more) with each birth. Fun!
     
  12. Darko

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    Not really.

    So far only two versions of Paul have impregnated someone.

    The only versions of Paul that have impregnated someone are Raul and paragon.

    Raul impregnated Komand'r, who isn't semi-immortal.

    Paul used his ring to impregnate several Amazoms, who are semi-immortal.
     
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  13. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Yea... That's probably a bad thing...

    Because if Paul doesn't understand why it's happening that means his desire energy is probably empowering Slaanesh...
     
  14. Ardy

    Ardy Not too sore, are you?

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    Don't forget that he's a deadbeat dad to Princess
     
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  15. Mr Zoat

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    No, that's correct.
    Thank you, corrected.
    Yes.
    That's not why.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  16. Chojin Patriarch

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    Not an uncommon occurrence with our dear SI, whatever the world. I wonder what it is this time? Someone assuming he's as provincial as the Reikslander humans, or leaping to the conclusion that he's some manner of mage from a far-distant land (Though, to be fair, Far Cathay and Nippon are basically unknown to the Old World at large by virtue of being on the other side of the planet...)

    Heh. Something of a 'well, you didn't utterly screw the Hellhound on that job. Try this, then.' I'll bet.

    And yes, that is a thing in the Old World. Most of the races are slowly dying out, with the more antagonistic races only breaking even by being prodigious breeders.

    Yes, I rather suppose if you had succeeded, you wouldn't be here, after all. So can we lose the attitude...

    Honestly, if it turns out they simply haven't understood the whole 'birds and the bees' talk... :p

    Well, thank goodness for that. Now, as to the matter of the males involved...

    On that aspect: Imagine sawbones, barbers, quacks and bloodletters (Not the daemons, mind!) Reiklander medical science is... not well advanced. Bretonnia is even less advanced, even amongst the sorceresses, I suspect.

    Hmm... I have to wonder just how much more advanced their medical studies are. Elves are.. not known for innovation and outside-the-box thinking.

    Oh, there is. Let him get started and he'll go on for hours...

    And just that 'this planet' should be giving them some pause. Oh, certainly, they might assume it's hyperbole, but...

    For reference, the Old Ones created (or basically uplifted) several races of the Old World, Elves amongst them. They were basically Maltusians with a more magical focus.

    To be fair, most non-humans would probably find English a horrifying hodge-podge of grammars, vocabularies and phenomes from around the world... I suspect most Maltusians would expect to lose intelligence learning it. :V

    Which should be very interesting to them, given the similarity and differences involved. The joy of the original Warhammer developers basing their world map off our own.

    Hmm... Accepting that maybe the Mon-Keigh may have some possibility of knowing what he's talking about? How remarkable for an Elf!

    Probably the first time the ladies have seen a body in that state, I wouldn't wonder.

    Which he can probably manage, because Elves do like their record-keeping. Not nearly so much as the Dwarves, with their books of Grudges, but still. I'm guessing he hasn't simply scanned all of Ulthuan because of the sheer pervasiveness of the Winds of Magic...

    You know, I would not be surprised to learn the Elven physicians don't have anything like the Hippocratic oath...

    To be fair, things in Bretonnia are... Odd in all fields anyway.

    ...On the one banging humans: Ew. Because, and this is a doozy, most Elves regard humans as little more than animals with pretensions of intelligence. You can imagine the reaction to hearing that someone's doing that with humans...

    ...That is a very odd detail. There must be something going on with soul-stuff, then.

    That's probably more than most of Ulthuan is managing. Collectively.

    Given that this is the grim-dark Warhammer World, yes, that is impressive.With all the bad shit around, most races only barely break even by having lots of offspring. Never mind the Greenskins...

    Probably realising that yes, that may have played some part in it. I take it she's been loving and leaving them when the relationship proves not to be... Fruitful.

    Well, when a Daddy dwarf and a Mommy dwarf... ;) Yes, they do exist, none of the 'I thought they hatched from rocks' jokes, please...

    I rather suspect the objection wasn't the physical aspect, but the social: Daughters mean Dowries.

    Well, that's one down.

    o_O ...I'm sorry, this is Warhammer. There's nothing in existence without skulls on. Nothing. They're like mushrooms, just spontaneously growing everywhere. :p

    Not the kind of problem I'd have envisioned Warhammer Paul (...do we have a nickname for him yet?) to be looking into. I mean, it's logical enough. Preventing the slow decline of potential allies into extinction is always a helpful idea. Perhaps next, he can approach the Slann with offers of rejuvenation? Imagine those bloated old toads in young, vital bodies, throwing around the kind of spell Lord Kroak or Lord Mazdamundi can manage... :eek:
     
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    I think Paul told Karras that English makes people less intelligent.
     
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    Remind me how Warhammer Fantasy Paul is recharging his ring and how it’s totally not related to Slaanesh?
     
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    He's essentially drawing on the magic in the environment, or something like that.

    And maybe the ring can bypass any Slaanesh related shenanigans.
     
  20. Mr Zoat

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    As far as I remember, elves are local. The Old Ones spent a lot of time educating them but they didn't create them.
    It has been proven experimentally that humans lose intelligence learning it.
    It's in Bretonnia, so they probably think it's Wood Elves anyway, and it's a step up from fucking trees like they normally do.
    Not exactly. Because fertility and virility are so low, elven culture has developed in such a way that promiscuity is far more accepted because there's basically no chance of having a child as a result.
    If I remember correctly, dwarfs practice polygamy; several men married to the same woman. Their concern is really more about the idea of a crazy magic human messing around with their scrotums.
     
  21. Whenever Possible

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    So WHF!Paul's girlfriend is the only elf he's not trying to get pregnant?
     
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    So far as I remember, the Warhammer setting doesn't have hybrids. Half-elves aren't a thing, so there's no way he could get her pregnant with his child.
     
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    Ganurath Apologizes For Nothing

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    Nomming the Winds themselves, if I remember right. Orange rings are the true omnivores.
    That's because of a lack of intercourse, rather than a lack of results from it.
     
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    webxro Benevolent Bystander

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    And they are right, I mean we know that Paul is competent. But if a random human wizard visit and says he wants to do magic spells on your scrotum you should probably kill said human. It's just common sense.
     
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    I could accept that no elf has ever wanted to have sex with a human, but I strongly doubt that humans feel the same way and slavery is very much a thing in the setting.
     
  26. Ganurath

    Ganurath Apologizes For Nothing

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    Indeed, slavery is a thing in the setting. Enslaved dark elves provided Nagash the foundational knowledge of dark magic that drove his innovation of necromancy.

    And then he killed them all.

    Slavery might be a thing, but slave longevity most emphatically is not, to the point that I'd be surprised if neither the dark elves nor the skaven had come up with pit-farming greenskins for meat.
     
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    Zoat can't see this, but he is in fact wrong.

    A Half Elf showed up in the 2001 novel Gilead's Blood, and Half Orc's are similarly a thing.
     
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    That sounds like a limitation for people without a Power Ring. Of course, for that to work, he'd actually have to want a kid with her. Which he may not, for all the audience knows.



    Any chance if learning the result of that, or is it Spoilers for future updates?
     
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    When Paragon was talking to Jade about kids he said he was indifferent to it, so this Paul may also not care if he has children or not.

    There's also his partner to consider and whether or not she wants to have children.
     
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    Assblaster5000 Not too sore, are you?

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    Not if it's a version of WF in-line with modern lore that this Paul is in.

    Any half-breeds have been retconned out of existence by making the genetics of the species of The Old World too alien to interbreed. And Orkz are basically just their 40k counterparts now, so they wouldn't even have genitalia to interbreed with.

    Hell, the same thing's basically happened in 40k too. There used to be an Astartes that was half-Eldar, but that's not canon anymore last I saw.
     
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