With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Is that right? I thought it was from aeration drawing the sword of khaine? Or did malekith do something I didn't know about?

 

Last I checked the Emperor's Sword was still with Guilliman.

 

Oh he probably told him that if ither Grayven gets to Earth, he will look the other way as long as he kills him and his whole army in the end.

In other words, the Shade would have FUN.

 

I think The Curse being Malekith's fault is an End Times retcon, so if that's getting thrown out the window, and until Zoat says otherwise, it's Aenarion's fault for drawing Widowmaker from the Altar of Khaine.

 

What are the details of Aenarion's curse? Casual browsing has lead me to believe that it had something to do with making Aenarion and those close to or descended from him crazy or something, and possibly messed up in body, mind, or soul. It looked like it differed on a case by case basis. For Teclis, it looks like it took the form of physical disability, with a possible boost to his soul or mind, that could have contributed to him becoming a better mage. What exactly are Teclis' symptoms? Is there one good source for all this?

 

The first book in the Tyrion and Teclis Trilogy gives us a few details in regards to what he's suffered from before he got proper spellcraft and medicines to help treat the symptoms. Seemed as though he was having to put up with almost every ailment elf-kind is usually free from.

 

But they still integrated it so badly she is basically a split personality right now.

 

And Grayven-16 speaks!

Spoiler: Be Revealed!

 

Looking bad for our gravvy.

 

Kinda confusing there, is his flagship ship called the Absolute Dominion or does he have a ship also called the Doomsday?

 

So the Zamaron Pirates work for Grayven in the Renegade timeline. At least they're dead in the Paragon timeline, so Paul doesn't have to worry about them anymore.

 

Thank you, corrected.

They got handed over to the psions. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're dead.

 

'my banner'

So we finally got to Actually Grayven.

If she's a Tamaranean in this setting then I'm betting some of the Gordanian clans took some slaves with them and when Actually Grayven took them over he got her service..

No, I'm betting their most interested in how to better raid.

He's not wrong.

Oh, yeah, New Gods can steal the powers of others.

The only time this was shown in this story was after the Captain Planet chapter where renegade apparently killed that evil god from there.

In the comics it was stated that Darkseid would absorb the powers of other pantheons, though I think it was only shown in the n52 when he killed those Old Gods and later fought Zeus and absorbed his power.

Ahh, the New God desire to get their hands dirty even if it isn't very practical.

'my attention'

Was this admiral Ozpin, or whatever his name was, the guy that renegade talked to about a ring?

'about the space'

She isn't creating more than dumb muscle, but renegades time with her has ensured she's a bit smarter.

True.

Am I detecting some jealousy here?

I wonder how the comic version of you would react.

I mean Darkseid 16 at least.acknowledges that you're his son. Comic Darkseid may not even remember who you are.

Well it was where the CPB was.

There's also the fact that it's isolated so he can work with more peace.

And a feeling of pride of being able to turn a shithole into a galactic power.

I think you'll be surprised at how far Vega has come.

Oh boy.

These are the Zamaron pirates.

I guess Actually Grayven has a thing for strong and violent women.

To quote Alucard.

"You done goofed"

I think Lynne will do that to you first.

I know that this isn't connected to the story but let's take a moment and think about TTS and what it has brought to our lives.

At least we got one more episode..

Goodbye TTS, you will always be the Weird Al of Youtube parodies.

 

The planet being turned into a wasteland may point to them being dead.

Though they may have somehow survived or were never on the planet, either escaping the Psions or being in another location.

 

Earth-16 Grayven is on Tamarean right? Cause the Queen's still married to the King

 

No he's on the Crown Imperium world.

 

Actually no. "Abut" is a real word meaning sharing a border.

Which actually shares an etymology with "butt up against"! And "butt" in general, for that matter.

Spiritually, Renepaul has his butt¹ all up in Grayven's business.

¹ Boundary! Really! Look it up!

 

I think Darkseid still regards Renegade better than Graven 16 here.

Darkseid seems to like people who defy him. After all, you can't be a tyrant over the hopeless or the willing. Renegade has created a fully independent powerbase with a novel way to contain and purge his fragment of the Anti-Life. While Graven 16 has just gone and become a lesser version of Darkseid.

 

Didn't know that.

For a moment I thought it was the Canadian way of saying 'about'.

 

Lin is going to tell her Not-Father what for. He is going to get such a talking too!

And Other-Grayven is going to find out how motivated a pissed off father becomes...

 

Thank you, corrected.

What?

No, 'abut' is correct.

 

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.c...young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/page-917

Spoiler

I lean forwards. Gaea's a few inches shorter than me, and to an external observer it looks like I'm leering. I'm not. I'm staring directly into her eyes.

"What do I want? Well, like any good businessman-" I take a moment to focus on the metaphysical additions I gained when I slew and absorbed that idiot Zarm. "-I want to tear the coverings of the Earth to get at the stuff underneath."

She raises her eyebrows.

I grin. "But for now, I'll settle for the rights to your photovoltaic technology. I've a mind to abolish fossil fuel use worldwide within a century and yours are the best available."

"Really."

"And as a gesture of good will..." I open up the well ventilated box I brought with me. "I brought you a present."

I pick up the Tasmanian Tiger cub within and hold it out to her.

 

Ah, Grayven-16. The man, the legend, the arsehole boss. An interesting chance to see what drives him, what brought him to fight the Renegade, and what he's planning... Shortly before the Renegade comes steaming in in full Papa Bear mode.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Yes, but his don't have the restrictions the Guardians placed on theirs. Don't assume he'll operate anything like the way you assume he will, boy.

So, 'Citizenry as distraction' confirmed. I honestly doubt he ever planned to give Astarte what she wanted from him...

"Ultra-rapid insertion!" No need for subtlety, eh? Straight to the terrifying close assaults. Which may end up biting him in the ass.

Because everyone who's heard of the sector has written it off as a den of scum and villainy, eh?

Expanding considerably on the comics version, eh? Knowing Mr Zoat, she'll have much more character, at least.

Opening up holes in their defence. Unfortunately, Grayven-16 doesn't care about lines of defence... He'll simply smash them aside or bypass them entirely...

Not the Doomsday, or that would have been remarked upon... So this is likely not the Kryptonian Creche-world.

Ah, New Gods. Always indulging a flair for the dramatic.

Thanks goodness for that. At least he has no intentions of blowing up planets he could simply conquer...

Handy, that Apokoliptian fascination with getting their hands dirty.

...And if this were a show, that would probably be ranked as a Crowning Moment of Visual Effects.

Oh, that can't be good...

To quote from Kill Six Billion Demons: "Behold the awesome fires of god. The limitless power of pure creation itself. Look carefully. Observe how it is used for the same purpose a man might use an especially sharp rock." Grayven is not subtle, is he?

...I hope that wasn't someone the Renegade found useful. Otherwise he is going to be pissed.

And since we know the Renegade isn't in Vega right now... He's sensing Lynne, on Tamaran. Because her soul is shaped a lot like the Renegade's...

At least he can't narrow it down from this far away.

And that's all that's needed. She's come a long way under the Renegade's leadership...

And you're a fool if you think that's true of Darkseid. He's not so simple or straight-foward in His planning.

It's called 'not being a petulant little twit', you petulant little twit.

Overconfidence. Because he would never step away from his place of power when trouble was calling, would he?

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched, boy. You evidently having been keeping up with the times...

No, you want to be able to drag his lifeless corpse along behind you, or bear his head on a pike, don't you? A pity you'll go disappointed.

Ah, beginning to realise you're not as in control of things as you think you are, eh?

Yes, I don't see that backfiring on him at all, nosirree.

A good look at Grayven-16's mindset. And it's as bad as I thought. Overconfident, arrogant and almost completely lost in his belief that he has the upper hand. Though I can understand that being necessary to reinforce his Godhead. It's going to be very satisfying to watch him stagger from blow after blow as the Renegade turns the tables on him.

 

I understood that....reference?

 

The saying "don't assume, it makes an ass out of u and me" is something that can be applied to Actually Grayven.

He may have.

If a powerful magical being makes a promise then they may need to keep it or face consequences.

Also he may want to raise any child from that union as an heir or useful tool.

Now I'm getting White Scars voxcast flashbacks.

To be fair, it basically was that.

Unless she's killed off.

No, no he isn't.

I think it may have been Ozpin.

 

I really hope that wasn't Duke Oswin. I really liked him as a character. He was someone with drive!

 

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh are we going to get to see Lynne flex her little New God tele-muscles?

 

I wish Lynne and Artemis had taken the time to work out “Mind Arrows” as a valid form of attack. Ah well, time for Lynne to do something clever, perhaps make Sunset nod in approval.

 

I completely forgot about that. Well remembered.

No, he's in Vega as part of the defence.