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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    Wait if all the black people on Nazi earth were captured/killed where has Doctor Mist been hiding? He would stand out like a sore thumb in this universe.
     
  2. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    It's... very much not.

    blasts

    Remove the comma

    Remove the apostrophe
     
  3. Ngamer11

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    I think most of the black people are dead. All the ones that are left should in Africa. I assume the entire continent is one giant prison.
     
  4. Bud-E

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    This is what The Bat meant when he said asking for help from Doctor Mist would be awkward?
     
  5. Ngamer11

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    Mr Zoat, I noticed that this should say 'bodyguards' because Shimmer said that the target was surrounded by them.

    I'm not entirely sure they even know he exists. It seems more like their society has dictated that magic is something only "inferiors" would use.
     
  6. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
    No, I think that's okay.
    I think that a group of bodyguards can collectively be referred to as a bodyguard.
     
  7. Threadmarks: Krummkreuz (part 4)
    Mr Zoat

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    Coming in blind, I wouldn't have expected national socialists to have embraced an alien technology so thoroughly. I can't really think of a way to voice that question in a non-confrontational way though, so I'll save it for now. Of course, the phrenology callipers are perfectly in line with national socialist thought and I'm pretty sure that they took a blood sample to check his genetic background.

    Other than that, the medical team checking over the ritualist appear perfectly competent. The technology they're using is Krypton-inspired, but human designed and built. Nothing I couldn't do with a power ring, but I imagine that they trust their instruments more than mine.

    The physician studying his face looks my way.

    "The skin of the cheeks is new?"

    "Part of what happens when they're affected by the demonic magic is that they get a Glasgow grin." I reach up to my own right cheek with my right hand, tracing a line along my own cheek. "I felt it would be detrimental to his recovery to leave it in place."

    "I would have preferred an unaltered specimen."

    "There's a planet containing hundreds of people with similar alterations. We need this one to be able to open the portal."

    "He hardly needs his cheeks for that. I assume that's how he got here in the first place?"

    I turn to The Bat.

    "I assume that the Reich has dispensed with the Hippocratic Oath?"

    "The version used may not be what you are familiar with. Doctor, the status of the patient?"

    "We haven't finished the full genetic workup-."

    "Just.. what you have."

    "The subject is in reasonable general health. I would usually say that for a youth of his age his physiology is underdeveloped, but since I do not know his background-."

    "Please, Doctor."

    "He's short, his muscles are not developed for strength and he's underfed. Left arm was broken in two places but has almost fully healed. Initial blood results show… No disease, and perhaps a heightened stress level. That might explain some of the other abnormalities. Brain development appears normal, though the patterns of activity are similar to those of coma patients."

    "I don't suppose that you have any magic scanners, do you?"

    "Magic is a tool for primitive peoples who lack the wit for technology. It is not a tool for a proper Aryan."

    Ah.

    I generate an opaque shield around myself and The Bat.

    "You're going to need to explain that one to me, because it sounds like it might become relevant."

    "When Karl Kant's capsule first arrived, the Führer determined that he was an Aryan of a more advanced sort sent back in time from national socialists in the distant future."

    "What?"

    "You think that makes less sense than a perfectly human-seeming alien?"

    "I don't see why he would have felt the need to weigh in at all. The origin isn't a point of ide… Ol… Ogy."

    Except that was a febrile time. If he could make immediate political capital out of it, he would. It's not as if Nazi biological pseudoscience made any sense anyway.

    "Yes. We know better now, but the policy was established. The technology we had been given was a pure Aryan technology from the pure Aryan future, so that was the only avenue we would follow. Everything else was for the subhumans. There's some leeway, but magic is officially banned."

    "Would you mind if I quote you on that?"

    "No? It is public knowledge?" He looks puzzled. "In what context would I be quoted?"

    "If anyone asked me about banning magic again, you would be quoted as a leading national socialist superhero. It could help me convince a lot of people."

    "Then by all means."

    "But now people know that he's an alien..?"

    "Some people are more ideological than is… Sensible. Claims have been made that Krypton is a world that will be colonised by Aryans in the future, rather than an alien world."

    "So magic is abhorrent."

    "If it were essential, we might be able to get some tribal shaman from one of the African subhuman reservations. It would be better not to. And in any case, if they had the power to travel to alternate worlds then they wouldn't still be here."

    "Kryptonians didn't study parallel universe travel. You're having to innovate after being led by the hand for seventy years. How lucky do you feel?"

    "Is magic a proper Aryan field of study on your home Earth?"

    "It's becoming increasingly mainstream, both because of the utility and because we keep getting attacked by magic users. The concept of 'Aryanness' isn't relevant to us."

    "I see." He nods at the barrier, and I drop it. "Sorry, Doctor, we needed a private conversation. You were saying?"

    "A coma. Obviously I don't know anything about magic, but great strides have been made in the field of psychopharmacology in recent years. I'm confident that we can rouse him."

    "Good. Then please, cont-."

    "Wait. What exactly are you planning on injecting him with?"

    "Are you a physician?"

    "What approximately are you planning on injecting him with?"

    "Various psychoactive substances, neurotransmitters-."

    "Side effects."

    "Does potential long term harm really matter in this instance? He's a degenerate and almost certainly a subhuman."

    "It matters because we need him coherent. Just being conscious isn't enough if you mess up his memory or hand eye coordination."

    The doctor looks to The Bat for instruction.

    "He has a point, Doctor. I know little more about magic than you do, while he is better informed."

    The doctor disgruntledly acquiesces.

    "I suppose we can baby him, if you insist. But that will almost certainly delay him regaining consciousness."

    The Bat nods. "We will manage. I-."

    A low, warbling alarm sounds throughout the castle, causing The Bat to march over to a wall-mounted communications device. He presses a button, then grimaces before turning to me.

    "It seems that the demons are not taking this lying down. Will you accompany us as we discipline them?"
     
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  8. hance1986

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    I just love the Nazi slant on things that make this whole scene and the attached world crazy. The old eugenics head measuring tool alongside advanced technology. This bright new future is still soaked in the same poison. It feels more like their biases are holding them back. The doctor keeps on about the prisoner being a subhuman like that's the defining thing about this mess. Then again I guess the prisoner being subhuman to them is the root of this situation.

    Also, African reservations.
     
  9. Ngamer11

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    We now have confirmation that they're anti-magic. Is there any chance a catastrophe will happen precisely because they don't use magic? Like maybe an uncontested Lord of Chaos who is patient enough to wait for just the right moment to kill most of the people of Earth by taking advantage of a magical incursion like an invasion from Demon Earth?
     
  10. hance1986

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  11. Darko

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    Maybe 'an unaltered'

    Moron.

    Yeah, I think Zoat mentioned this in a post.

    Wonder how they'd feel if they found that a communist version of Supes actually had this origin.

    That may be kinda difficult to do now.

    Unless they plan on turning the chunks left from it into space stations.
     
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  12. hance1986

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    So to cover Karl being an alien Hitler claimed him as an Aryan time traveler. Never mind that Aryans and hyperadvanced crystal technology have just about no relation. Never mind that by covering up one ridiculousness with another, people believe nonsense in the Nazi modern day on how Kryptonians were Aryan colonists. I just like how taken to it's natural conclusion, the future of the Nazis even after having won is gummed up by primitive thinking and passions. Magic is deemed as primitive yet some national socialists believe Overman was a time traveler.

    Victory has by no means made the Nazis right, only that they will never go away. Hell of a thing.
     
  13. Chojin Patriarch

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    Phrenology, a long-debunked pseudoscience. Of course they'd be happy to indulge in it. As for the actual science and technology, I bet the Party leadership spun it as 'acceptable' somehow. People are very willing to delude themselves if it benefits them, after all...

    Don't dismiss whatever assumptions they have due to ideology, OL. I have no doubt they already have opinions about the boy, whatever their instruments say.

    It's also nasty as hell. I doubt it would make them any more kindly-disposed towards him...

    That's still a big 'if', OL. And for all you know, Wolf's already working on making another portal.

    Boy, this doctor is really rubbing OL the wrong way, isn't he? I suppose he's finally getting a taste of how some people see him. :p

    I shudder to imagine the adjustments... Bet they align a lot with the perceived 'value' of the patient, in racial terms...

    Basically, is he okay to be woken up? OL is kind of on the clock here.

    I'm guessing he's usually not so rushed, hmm?

    Some of those could just be the whole demonic cultist thing. If I remember right, he was also Middle Eastern, and that region is never in a pleasant shape in any DC universe. Never mind being a dupe for Deathstroke.

    Get used to this, OL. Most of the planet are like the doctor here, I suspect.

    Ah, a quick bit of exposition, eh? It'll be interesting to see how Mr Zoat manages this.

    ...To be fair, it's not that crazy, given some of the other beliefs about Aryans, at the time. Nor is the time-travel thing as part of Kal-El's origins. Red Son, anyone?

    ...Hitler would have claimed Jesus was an Aryan, if he could have managed it. Are you so surprised that he'd pull something this crazy?

    And then we remember that Herr Fledermaus, for all his reasonable authority figure cred, is still a Nazi. One likely raised with the ideology, given his youth circa World War II.

    ...Are you asking just so you can say that a Nazi would try to ban magical research?

    Admittedly, it'd be to convince people the other way. But he doesn't need to know that. :p

    o_O And how would that even work? No, no, don't try to explain it, I don't want to lower anyone's intelligence by hearing the justifications... :rolleyes:

    ...African. Reservations. Yeah, I could see why they'd want to leave.

    ...I don't know, what's your feelings on the 'Aryanness' of Atlanteans? I mean, some versions of the concept probably think that Aryans were ancient Atlanteans, or some silliness.

    No doubt the doctor was taking advantage of their discussion to get some more tests done...

    ...Let's not go rushing in blindly here, guys.

    No, but he can make a good showing as one using his Ring. Especially with a Purple Healing Ray in tow.

    Oh god, he's going to be tripping balls when he wakes up, isn't he?

    Curb the impression of Doctor Mengel, buddy. Little more at stake here.

    He has a point. Not much good having him awake if he can't remember how to cast the portal spell, or is so shaky that he can't do the hand gestures.

    Probably with a silent curse towards all 'dumbkopf Wunder-Mensch...'

    Better than breaking a teenage boy's mind for the sake of expediency.

    Ah, looks like Superman and the Kants decided to hold off attacking? Or maybe they've got Wolf by the short-and-curlies and forcing him to open the way for them...

    So, chances this will be OL's allies following him through? After all, it's barely been half an hour since he jumped through the portal. At least they'll have a bit more authoritarian muscle to throw around, so that OL doesn't have to deal with the nuttier aspects of a Nazi-ruled world... And if it's not, he can let off some frustration and show the locals how an actual Lantern handles things.
     
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    I wonder how similar this doctor’s behavior is to a doctor specializing in meridian lines and acupuncture for spiritual purposes. The focus here on phrenology for example…


    Ah, damn, I’m having a flashback to what I learned about gynecology and quackery around midwifery in early American history. Ugh. Sometimes I wish I had a red ring… It just hits home more than the nazi and imperial japanese torture research.
    Sigh.
     
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    Getting invaded by aliens telling them all humans are worthless as a race might be beneficial for them. Getting perspective and all.

    I wanted to say, meeting surviving Kryptonians, but those had that whole caste system thing going on...

    Did Zod show up here at some point?
     
  16. Old Knife

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    The conversation with the doctor was taxing in a way that approximated "annoying relatives/co-workers you can't do anything about."

    I approve. Even non hostile nazi's are irritating a way only SJW's and rando mormon missionaries at 2am are.
     
  17. Darko

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    And the Nazis were very good at deluding themselves.

    I mean, no one wants to be associated with a Nazi.

    Simple.

    We start with blah blah blah blah and then Krypton is colonized.

    I think I captured the spirit of their thoughts here.

    Apparently they consider them Aryan enough here.
     
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    Had to focus a bit to keep from sniggering there.
    Or he might have figured it out anyway (since he seems fairly on-the-ball regardless) and just doesn't care so long as it's not in this/his universe. Could go either way.
     
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    I half expect OL to offer someone on this Earth Retrophrenology therapy at some point out of sheer frustration.
     
  20. Bud-E

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    Does Icon exist on this Earth? Does he work with the American Freedom Fighters? Or did his ship land somewhere else like Kal-El's?
     
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    I think it was once mentioned that Overman may have killed him.
     
  22. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
    I always assumed that he was meant to be hispanic.
    Arian Christianity was something rather different.

    I kind of want to make a joke about someone getting the two confused.
    No, they'd just see it as a challenge.
    Everyone has an arsehole, it's just that your own doesn't fart in your face.
     
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    I feel it needs to be said: Mr Zoat, you cheeky motherfuker! :D:p
     
  24. Senevri

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    For a moment I thought, "surely the would have figured out that's nonsense by now." Then I remembered that lie detectors still see some use, and that handwriting analysis was thought to be good evidence until very recently.
     
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    Why can OL not wake the cultist?
     
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    There may be complications that can only properly fixed through magical means. And that's a problem, because Nazis see magic as something only inferiors would use. So even if he does wake up, he's pretty much guaranteed to be not at 100%.
     
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    Props to you, Mr Zoat, for managing to portray the more casual ingrained racism in such a way that is not excessively grating and cartoonish.
     
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    Galler Not too sore, are you?

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    Angelica already explained that to him when she first arrived.
     
  29. Ngamer11

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    I thought that was from Word of Zoat and not said in the story. Is there a link to this?
     
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  30. Xammmy

    Xammmy Know what you're doing yet?

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    I dont remember if it was mentioned, but what happened to Atlantis on Nazi Earth?
     
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