With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

So... what is Whaler’s power? Is he white enlightened or something? Did he somehow get a part of Ion and is called the Whaler because of that? Why can he use constructs, and why does his face have white lines?

 

i'm betting on him being a Proto-White Light user

 

With green, you can't be fancy because you have to focus on pushing every inch of the way. On the plus side, green can't do anything by accident, and can be aimed in any direction.
The other colors are "pushed" by the users "emotions" to a greater or lesser degree, which makes them easier to use, but limits you to certain directions.
White is broken as hell because you can pick whichever part of the spectrum is pushing in the direction you want to go at the moment.

 

I understand that according to JLA/JSA Secret Files his powers come from the Aurora Borealis and his tribe comes from the land bridge between Asia and North America, but his origins were never explored in his appearances.

And the only colors I remember his constructs being were green, which is rather odd for his supposed origin.

Unless he was supposed to be a part of like a sentai team-pink, green, yellow, blue, violet, orange and white.

 

that actually makes me think of Dying light (videogame) a little- when the script wants to, its fucking HILERIOUS, but it hits so hard partly because its serious the majority of the time, and the writers knew when to use levity without ruining immersion/the setting, instead of going full-on-cartoonishly-goofy the entire time.

 

There will be a random Malvolio that appears to wreck some shit!
Will our intrepid lantern trio be able to stop this font of willpower and evil?????

 

What's wrong with admitting that most of your information is from extra-dimensional (or possibly "extra-universal") sources that may or may not be accurate locally? Paul has been known to be outside his current universe at least a couple of times by now, so that should be enough truth in a misleading enough manner to not reveal things he doesn't want to reveal.

 

i mean, the way i see it, in a setting like this, there -is- no "real" world-
it'd be perfictly reasonable for their to be projections/infomation leakage between worldlines fairly frequently- a "mutually fictional" type thing-
there's allready arguably a precident with Earth Prime and all- when whiny-little-up-himself-bitch-Prime went psychotic, it leaked into the "real" comics, and his friends/family essetially disowned him for being a genocidal lunatic-
i dont really think the reveal would REALLY be THAT traumatic if presented through the lens of "yes, your world is fictional where i came from- if you went through enough bookshops, there's a very high chance mine is here!"

 

Personality I am more interested on the conversation Guy will have about Nekkron and the black light. Paul probably doesn't remember he name dropped that during combat, but the Guardians probably do, and since their first attempt to get information on that failed (when Paul went to Oa), I wouldn't be surprised if they tell information to Guy to see if he can get Paul talking.


I am sure the Guardians must be almost shitting bricks by now, in less than two years they have got confirmation of the compassion corps being active for a while, the greed ones are finally a proper lantern core, the love ones are very close (probably being helped along after the guardians/controllers discovered the anti-monitor armor piece), the hope has a powerful user (and Ganted (sp) will probably complete his project now that he knows they failed to erase the anti-monitor) and Siniestro of the fear has been awfully quiet these past few months... As far as they know only the light of rage lacks a lantern core or a powerful user and the black light is already active in the planet they decided to hide/stash the life embodiment.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Hope lantern Paul respects, shows up on earth in a couple of months to meet his senpai Alan, leading to the team mentioning how Paul respected him as a light user and everyone picking up on the issue that he is a new lantern that Paul knew ahead of time.

 

I would have already used the Ophidian as explanation. I mean, who can account for all the random little things that the Ophidian and Paul did together with their level of power? They probably only noticed the major things and Paul doesn't remember every little thing until some context allows him (like seeing everyone, everywhere, from every angle, naked at least once), so who says if one of those random things wasn't investigating stuff on Earth or random 'True Sight' across the galaxy or watching ancient and significant (conveniently comic book relevant) events from their mark in the Honden of Avarice? The only one that could say that's a lie is the Ophidian... and I don't think she will tell.

At this point he may need to commit, get a good enough lie they can't catch (he can just say he has the information but can't precisely say from which one unique source he got it and use the Ophidian as possible explanation, which is still misdirection and not literally lying) or just own up to it and say he got it from his universe (say like, there's some documented and illustrated stories from his universe that seem to explore other adjacent or random universes, some of which seem to bear remarkable similarities with this universe but not complete parity and Hinon believes my world's version of 'Metahumans' just have a high sensitivity through the Bleed to witness, although not perfectly, events from other universes; again not a lie but sounds with more gravitas than just... graphic novels or comic books).

 

I can see some sense in not telling Guy. Letting him know that not only is he a fictional character, but is also not very well thought of, has been used in some very cringey ways over the years, and is regularly pushed aside for Hal might just negatively affect his sense of self. Which in turn would greatly weaken him.

Just a thought.

 

as a counterpoint, you could reinforce how he's... well, not the Guy OL read about- he's a person, not a punchline or 2D comic relief- he's highly compitent, Driven,and geninely dedicated AND successful at
improving society past rightous face-punching in his other job in a way few powered individuals manage,as well as being a genuinely talented Lantern who's arguably the most skilled of the Earther lanterns at this point, to the point of innovating a hard-counter technique to Assimilation entirely on his own- focus on pointing out all the ways the "leaked" infomation/stories isnt entirely accurate past the basics- after all, in the DC canon i remember, we're just in another paralel ourselves....

though i fully agree that any such reveal WOULD be inherently risky given the nature of his power source- i just feel... well...
look at where dodging the truth got Renpaul as of now, twice over (relationship AND AL exposure)...

also, on the practical level, a handful of people (who dont have John Constantine's LITERALLY supernaturally bad luck) to compare notes with could be genuinely useful to fact- check his database

 

I'm enjoying this new story-line. I hope you'll keep writing this.

 

...Doesn't Paul still have his problem with fiat currency that means that his contempt of the whole thing makes him unable to use it? I think you meant to have him just give a coin, though I understand the desire for the joke.

 

He lost that problem quite a while ago, when he became enlightened.

 

No wonder Kyle is a freak then.

 

Because then he would have to admit there's a very good chance his information isn't accurate.

And he value's his "all knowing" reputation too much for that.

 

In the comics I remember, Kyle builds by making construct cranes and diggers and having them do the work of regular cranes and diggers. He didn't literally make things until he started turning into Ion.

 

i remember from ages back, OL commented on the other Earther Lanterns and their constructs-i cant clearly remember who's it was- it was a situation that had almost everyone in the field/using their rings at once,and he was thinking/comparing their styles internally-it might have been a sparring match, or...
but theirs (i think either Jon or Alan) stood out because..well..they were more REAL, detailed-nuts, bolts and (assumedly)welds- replicas of/actual objects formed out of the green light instead of just the form- it did a really god job of subtly emphasizing how hard/unusual it is to "REALLY" make something with a bobblehead ring, instead of a rough aproximation...

like...say a lawnmower- most who could project one,there'd be the shell, and blades-but they're be sepereate/unconnected, floating in space...

 

While all the things he makes are just constructs; read DC One Million and one of the crossovers with the Avengers to see the stuff he can make.

A perfect replica of Iron Man armor? No problem!

.Holding an explosion that might wipe a whole Galaxy? He needs help but still can hold it in his own for a minute or two.

 

Aren’t those sort of considered non-canon? DC One Million is definetely not a good approximation of his actual current powers, since all current heroes are more powerful there, and the Avengers comics do some weird things to make pairs of characters nearly equivalent in power.

 

I would like to know if the robot chicken DC universe will ever show up. They are quite funny.

 

That was John Stewart. In theory he does it in the comics as well. In practice, it was mentioned once and then forgotten.

 

Kyle power levels(and powers) keep changing but if he wants something canon, he was able to fight Parallax away with just a bit of help. And I meant the fear entity.

 

Depends on which crossover you're talking about. If it's JL/Avengers, then no, it's still canon, even despite flashpoint.

Krona was trapped in a universe egg at the end of that crossover.

That universe was shown to have hatched in Trinity, where Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman replaced Krona as the gods of that universe.

That universe is now Earth-1 of the post flashpoint multiverse.

So that universe is the setting of Superman: Earth-One, Batman: Earth-One, Teen Titans: Earth-One, Wonder Woman: Earth-One, and Green Lantern: Earth-One.

 

He knew the secret identities of the entire Justice League, and a huge number of other heros and villains, to a high degree of accuracy. Certainly the Justice League was something like 100% accurate.
He isn't familiar with the exact universe, but he's accurately predicted many plotlines, backstories, ex-cetera.
He was basically fully aware of the general state of Vega, with enough detail in some cases to know where, specifically, to find several different people. One of which was hidden behind a false wall deep inside a heavily secured prison.

I'd say that there's a very good chance that his information is accurate.

 

The real problem would be if he brought up Guy's Warrior phase. That was... Really something.

 

And even if Walker's ring has the malware, Being near Alan's green light soul would unlock it.

 

Huh, that's pretty interesting. Up until now I had the impression that Paul spent his childhood reading/watching every bit of DC media ever made.