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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. SirKaid

    SirKaid Getting sticky.

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    OL's goal with the Sivanas has been reforming them. Putting them in friendly contact with China would just give them hundreds of "enemies of the state" to experiment on.
     
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  2. Darko

    Darko Not too sore, are you?

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    God point SirKaid, good point.
     
  3. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    The Chinese government would probably kill them.
    About the same.
    No. Aside from defeating the Green Lantern Corps invasion I haven't thought about it.
    If it helps, I don't remember either.
    Yes.
    It's as good as any answer I could give.
    Probably.
    I think that Superman would probably rather just leave them there.
    Seems that the red run itself would be sufficient.
     
  4. thebishop8

    thebishop8 Umm, ackchyually...

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    I'm pretty sure Darko is referring to this:

     
  5. Darko

    Darko Not too sore, are you?

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    I would have thought that if the Sivanas had not commited any crimes in chinese territory they would have been accepted as scientists, they let the Physician into the Great Ten and i think he killed several members of the chinese military, so it is odd that they would try to kill them if they haven't done anything to them.

    Still seems dangerous to let the criminals in the Phantom Zone stay there. Either Superman changes his mind or OL does it without his permission because aside from preventing future incidents of escaped kryptonian psychopaths rampaging it could also help restart the kryptonian race if there are enough people there who could reproduce.

    When you say that Alan looks about the same do you mean that he looks like he was in his prime?

    Thank you thebishop8 that is the scene i was talking about.
     
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  6. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Perhaps, but they have. And the Chinese would need a very good reason to host a psychologically unstable American supervillain.
    Kal-El doesn't have any sort of burning desire to restart the kryptonian species. If he did he'd have gotten on that already.
    A little past his prime. Alan knows that he's not a young man any longer and has no particular desire to look like one.
     
  7. Grimnar

    Grimnar Versed in the lewd.

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    What does this mean for the potential Diana/Alan ship? Because I've boarded that bitch all the way.

    Edit: Edited for accuracy.
     
  8. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Not a lot? He's a few years older than her, and they're both old enough for the difference to be trivial. Physical intimacy can be awkward when one party has super strength and the other doesn't but they could probably work around it.
     
  9. Darko

    Darko Not too sore, are you?

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    Are Alan and Diana going to become a couple anytime in your story?
     
  10. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Except there is no thought crime. She's an actual nazi, from a world of nazi's, who won the war, did their purges, and are now in control. Is she just the most innocent little thing ever? Never carried out an order against a "Subhuman" party that was given to her? If not, is it because they are all already dead? Or am I to believe that the literal Jackbooted Thug has never behaved in the manner of a jackbooted Thug?

    If you want to give me shit about how she's so innocent on earth 16, then what about the eye ripper planet? What right did OL have to come in, break their laws, and basically set about an overthrow of their society? They believed they were right, generations had been raised to know no better, and yet people got deaded.

    The Psions were probably raised to be totally cool about what they did. Planet on fire.

    Yet this blond, blue eyed, attractive little human looking nazi is getting the "yeah but" pity treatment and it's honestly making me sick.

    And even if we can argue that not filling her full of lava is the correct move. I see no reason to give her free god damn range. Locked up in a secure facility at least.

    Oh, and if someone "Mouths off" to her? Good, fuck her. She doesn't deserve respect and reverence for her bullshit beliefs. Everyone tip toeing around so as not to upset the fucking Nazi.
     
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  11. Coda

    Coda Not too sore, are you?

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    Now, see, this is okay. Never once did I say that it was bad to talk to the self-professed Nazi as if they were, in fact, a self-professed Nazi. The defenses I have been raising are entirely in the realm of crime and punishment, not personal opinions and morality. You don't have to like her. You don't have to think she's a good person. And you're entirely welcome to say this to her face.

    It's only when it escalates to the administration of violence does this change. To be ethical, we should prefer to treat everyone fairly, and fairness means holding everyone to the same standards. And because we prefer that innocent people should not be the victims of undeserved violence, we should prefer that our system ensures due process -- a fair means of objectively establishing that the person deserves it instead of leaving them to the subjective whims of anyone who happens to be stronger.
     
  12. Ganurath

    Ganurath Apologizes For Nothing

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    Wait a minute...

    Overgirl has never seen Star Wars!
     
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  13. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Know what you're doing yet?

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    That might be for the best. Such blatant Rebel propaganda simply wouldn't be believable. As though the mighty Empire could be defeated by teddy bears. I scoff at the very notion.

    But yeah. He probably is being gentler with her because she looks Human. Most of the groups Paul has been harsher with have appearance some would consider monstrous. There's probably some lizard brain impulse that made him less forgiving.
     
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  14. Itypeslow

    Itypeslow Corpses for the Corpse God!

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    The Steiner emblem is what sells this one
     
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  15. Ganurath

    Ganurath Apologizes For Nothing

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    No, no, you don't get it. She hasn't seen the twist from The Empire Strikes Back. How many people can, decades after the movie came out, see an adult react with genuine shock to that reveal?
     
  16. Gladiusone

    Gladiusone Experienced.

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    Steiner-Davion, thank you very much.
     
  17. Threadmarks: Jungle Gym (part 4)
    Mr Zoat

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    18th March
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    Eyes move around the room, Tula and Garth shrugging at those which alight on them. Robert looks thoughtful, but he ends up looking at me as well.

    I shake my head.

    "I don't think it's wendigos. They're not exactly subtle, and you need a very particular cannibalistic ritual to give someone the ability to turn into one. As far as I know, there were only ever a handful of Canadian tribes who knew how to do it, and they weren't exactly popular with their neighbours. It's never been confirmed as happening in the United States, let alone South America."

    Beryl raises her eyebrows. "Werewolf?"

    "Less unlikely, but…" I use my ring to bring up some of the pictures Batman handed us as part of the Brazilian government's request for help. "Look at this. Werewolves will kill people and eat them, but-."

    Richard nods. "They wouldn't make a point of tearing up a building site. You think there's an economic motive."

    "It could be a werewolf going to the site and then deliberately changing, or some other sort of shapeshifter, or some other sort of augmented strength. They're not too far from places we know Bane was selling Venom, for example. Or the site workers are in on it and it's just people with hammers and patience."

    Seriously. Wendigos? I'm surprised the Cattle Rancher's Association has even heard of those.

    Beryl presses another button and brings up the company's financial information.

    "Insurance fraud is another option. And mafia debt collection's always popular."

    I nod, looking around the circle. "Is it alright if Squire and I take this one? I already know the Brazilian superhero Fire-."

    Wallace frowns. "So why isn't she handling this? Or some other Brazilian superhero? Or their police?"

    Richard smiles. "Don't want a trip to Brazil, KF?"

    "No one got hurt." He shrugs. "Criminal damage isn't exactly high priority."

    "No, but it's low risk enough to be used for training, which is… Sort of the point."

    Roy snorts dismissively, shaking his head.

    Kaldur looks at him. "You believe there is another motive?"

    "The Cattle Rancher's Association owns Brazil's UN Ambassador. It's easier for them to put in a request to the Justice League than it is to get their own police to deal with it."

    I half-smile.

    "Plus, we're cheaper."

    Though Wallace does have a point. Beatriz might not want it because she's on bad terms with the ranchers, and they might not want her because she shoots things with fire and she can only control her primary fires. If she sets anything else on fire it burns normally. But that still leaves a number of publically-active superheroes and plenty of private security specialists. Fabiao was right on the money there. The Cattle Rancher's Association has a lot of wealthy members who wouldn't be slow about bringing that level of force in to deal with augmented protestors.

    Are we..? Really that easy to get hold of? I mean, if it was something that we were needed to deal with then I wouldn't have a problem, but this.. could result in a lot of trivial stuff being dumped on us. Or on the League.

    Kaldur nods, making eye contact with me. "The mission is yours."

    Beryl calls up a holographic roster, and moves her emblem and mine into the 'Brazil' column. Kaldur dismisses the images of the Brazil assignment and calls up a new set.

    "West Africa. An armed group has been attacking isolated villages. There are reports that they are led by an albino, and have access to extremely advanced weaponry."

    There's no picture to go with it, but the description came from people who escaped from different attacks and had no opportunity to compare their stories. The only African albino I remember from DC is that one animal man villain, who…

    I look around at the assortment of demigods who are now part of the team.

    Frankly, just about any of us could beat without too much trouble due to having much more raw power than Vixen or Mr Baker. And while Africa's big, there aren’t that many places where you can hide a penis tank. Tracking him down might be slightly difficult. Stopping him won't be. And while it would be interesting to see where he's getting his equipment from, that's hardly critical either. Actually, the only thing I know that's not included in the briefing report is that he has that animal-trait copying sidekick, and… The same thing applies. Whatever magics are in her mask are either too weak to be useful to me or too weird for me to be comfortable with studying them.

    M'gann calls up a map and highlights the locations attacked.

    "That's a pretty big area. The Bio-Ship would be best for scouting this out covertly."

    Canis brings up a topographical map and studies it for a moment.

    "If we visit one of the Lowlie hovels-" Raquel glances at me and then looks away. "-Brut may well be able to track them by scent."

    Amon briefly raises his right hand. "I would also like to participate. In his first life, my brother gave these lands his protection, and I think it would please him if I continued his work."

    And he's fast enough that operating away from a Lantern won't prevent him relocating, and he's tough enough to serve as the team's lead brawler if it comes to it.

    "Agreed." Kaldur nods, and Beryl makes the assignments. "Next, the Question has requested assistance in bringing down a Hub City crime lord."

    Artemis frowns. "Isn't he.. kinda…" She hesitates for a moment. "Crazy?"

    "He's the second sanest street shaman I know."

    Tula nods. "Shaman like that open themselves to the spiritual presence of the places and peoples around them. That usually leaves them a little disconnected from society."

    Garth nods as well. "Which is why hardly anyone in Atlantis studies that branch of magic."

    Kaldur smiles faintly. "Do either of you wish to observe a practitioner at work?"

    Two small head-shakes from them, but Robert perks up slightly. "I wouldn't mind."

    The remaining unassigned senior members of the team do the eye-dance for a moment, before Artemis nods. "I'll take it. Be nice to see somewhere worse than Gotham."

    Richard jerks his head back in mock offence.

    "Hey! We're only, like, fifteenth on the US murder rates lists this year."

    "You barely chart on the international list."

    Because let's get a sense of perspective. We have more superheroes in this room than most countries have in total. We really shouldn't be spending all our time in a country that can manage most things perfectly well without us.

    "Next." The holograms shift again. "The Russian government have reported that they have a lead on the disappearance of Christina Molotova."

    Wallace blinks. "I hadn't realised they were still looking."

    Leonid's face remains perfectly stoical. "Russia is a big and empty place. Finding someone who can move as fast as she can is not easy."

    "Okay, great." Wallace turns to Kaldur. "This one's mine."

    Leonid nods. "It may be best if I go with him. To avoid miscommunication."

    "Agreed." Their icons move on the chart. "Next…"
     
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  18. Old Knife

    Old Knife Getting sticky.

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    What happened to Ubergirl?
     
  19. Z000

    Z000 If this is trash, then find me in the dumpster

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    eh, i doubt they would call for her with these sort of thing, they are basically going over daily mission and just checking them off the to do list
     
  20. Chojin Patriarch

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    Yeah, very much a local phenomenon. And a lovely cold open to the main business of the episode.

    Placing my bet, it's something to do with the Children of Dawn, some long-lost remnant. I could be way off, but worth considering given the location.

    Too many Hollywood movies, I expect.

    Just a matter of following the money in that case. Something a Power Ring is very good at.

    It's called 'passing the buck', Wally. Presumably the locals don't want a flame-throwing superhuman around their farms.

    Boy, he's in a mood. Did Overgirl shoot him down?

    If it were his clone-brother William, I'd say he was annoyed at being with the 'kiddy team', but this is OG Speedy. Then again, he probably has a high opinion of his need for training anyway.

    Hmm, the stale stink of corruption and cartels. Like old cigarette smoke and bitter alcohol. Must be all those back-room deals.:p

    <Snrk.>:V

    Joy of day-to-day heroing. You can't fight alien invasions or interdimensional intruders every day. Sometimes, you gotta clean up the streets...

    Very 'council of war'. I expect other teams will get Lanterns assigned for rapid response.

    Oh, boy. Not one for Overgirl, I think. Assuming she's invited at all.

    ...I'd say "WTF, Silver Age?" But that art is solidly 90's. I'm not sure which would be worse. This should be a curb-stomp for just about any squad.

    Good input. Presumably not counting on a Lantern.

    Get used to it, Rocket. Unlike Overgirl, he's not going anywhere soon.

    Heck, barring any unusual circumstances, he could handle it himself. It's just a matter of finding the responsible parties.

    Not exactly a glowing endorsement, OL. I'm guessing Maps is the first.

    Heh, good reminder of their shared magical training and theoretical experience.

    Oh, come on, it isn't that bad, surely. No, wait... Hub City. Qualifies best for 'wretched hive of scum and villainy'.

    Gotham is getting better.

    International, not America. Though the JLI Era had its comedic moments...

    Ah, fallout from the Russian Speedster episode. That would be 'ZigZag' if I remember correctly.

    This one's personal, after all.

    Leonid is also a fast flier, if I remember right, so they can keep up with each other no problem.

    The opening credits have rolled and the meat of the episode begins. Another 'Squads spread about the globe' episode, in the fine tradition of Silver Age Justice League issues.

    Corrections:
    ...they are led by an albino...
    Do either of you wish...
    ...spending all our time in...
     
  21. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Not too sore, are you?

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    I fully expected Angelika to be slotted with the west africa mission.

    They say people often like you better when you ask them for help, so a good way for her to get more sampthy for "untermenschen" may be to get her to help and interact with some.
     
  22. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Know what you're doing yet?

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    Missing a word after "beat", maybe "them"?
     
  23. Chojin Patriarch

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    No, that caught me out too. But he's continuing a train of thought from the paragraph above. The sentence ending in 'animal man villain, who...' that was interrupted by his looking around.
    So it would basically read "...that one animal man villain who, frankly, just about any one of us could beat without too much trouble..."
     
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  24. Ardy

    Ardy Know what you're doing yet?

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    Beryl has an icon? Awesome! What’s it look like?
     
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  25. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  26. Citizen

    Citizen Experienced.

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    "frowned" I think.

    "our"
     
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  27. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    I'm guessing that either the censors were asleep that day, or they decided that it wasn't important enough to care about.
     
  28. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Know what you're doing yet?

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    Ah, that makes sense. Thank you.
     
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  29. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Not too sore, are you?

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    I think it should be "Isn't he...".
     
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  30. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Versed in the lewd.

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    Fortunately while Oh El has no common sence the rest of the team would veto that that hard Oh Rl would feel it next morning.
     
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