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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. DbDRAKE

    DbDRAKE Possibly some sort of Actual Dragon?

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    Fair enough.

    But if you want people not to think about a pink elephant, the last thing you do is tell them: "Don't think about a pink elephant!"
     
  2. david

    david Getting out there.

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    Honestly, I think the villains who have been locked away for a millennia+ get a pass on monologues. You can only stew in your own hatred and plans for revenge for so long before you start planning out speeches.
     
  3. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Not too sore, are you?

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    Nah, Friendship is one of them "The more you share it the more there is" deals.

    Like wealth, hope and disease.
     
  4. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Not too sore, are you?

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    Btw, question: can a motherbox create something? Rearrange matter into technology or food or clothes or whatever?
     
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  5. Navi-Hank

    Navi-Hank An engine fuled by spite

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    She can also just explain that that won't work, and you need genuine True Companions for it to work, and if they can't stop obsessing over it long enough to have some human interactions then they don't deserve to study it. He'll, just saying that there are magics that can only be accessed when synced to another person should be enough.
     
  6. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    It occurs to me that sunset knows about Grayven using fear and avarice as power sources right? is it that much of a stretch that Equestria uses friendship as an equivalent power source in a similar way?
     
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  7. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    In the comics, absolutely. For example the second time Superman fought Doomsday, he had a Motherbox. Among other things it healed Darkseid after Doomsday beat him within an inch of his life, outfitted Superman with gadgetry, and then healed Superman and his costume after the battle was done.

    Here, I assume Zoat doesn't want the uses of a power ring and a 'box to get blurry in story.
     
  8. Idkusername

    Idkusername Know what you're doing yet?

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    Well, at the end of the day, even if Sunset wants to study friendships, she still has to form them, and that’s it. Even if she’s made friends to study sociological Madrid or whatever, she still made friends.


    At the end of the day it won’t matter why she did, since as long as she isn’t so far on the sociopath scale that she is unable to empathise, she’ll realise that meaningful emotional connections are, and pardon the Department of Redundancy Department, ‘meaningful’.
     
  9. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    Is Fear or avarice consumed every time grayven or paul uses their rings? unless you want to use the beloved New 52 canon where the emotional spectrum can be used up ala relic.
     
  10. Siiracai The Supernal

    Siiracai The Supernal Shadows and Balance

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    Look at us, talking about magical friendship nukes in a story about a dimension travelling human with a piece of deadly emotion powered magic space jewellery.
     
  11. dreaddragonking

    dreaddragonking Getting out there.

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    I can't wait to see the cast of MLP having to deal with someone like Gavin, i can just feel that its gonna be hilarious
     
  12. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Not too sore, are you?

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    Thanks!

    And ain't it grand?
     
  13. w34v3r

    w34v3r Versed in the lewd.

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    I get that part, but that doesn't change the fact that she encouraged both of her students to focus on academic and scientific studies, rewarded them for it with one of the most valuable commodities in equestria, Celestia's time and teachings, then gets strange when they behave... exactly how she's encouraged them to.

    I feel like the problem is that she leads with the magic stuff for too long, and doesn't try to get them socialized till they're older, which is a problem, especially if canterlot is as ... canterlot as shown.

    Of course part of the problem may not be celestia directly, so much as the school environment encouraging that sort of single minded pursuit of personal knowledge and skill to the detriment of the kids' social lives.There's tons of schools like that IRL, and plenty of schools that impair social development without the benefit of being hyper competitive academically.

    Well not every spell casting tradition is as efficient as malthusian glow tech.

    Black Mage's Hadouken was powered by love. Every time he cast it the divorce rate increased.
     
  14. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    From Wiki, so 'true for the comics but not necessarily WTR'
    "Mother Boxes can access the energy of the Source for various effects; they can change the gravitational constant of an area, transfer energy from one place to another, sense danger, sense life, create force fields, rearrange molecular structure of matter, absorb or project powerful shock blasts, create electro-webs, control the mental state of a host, communicate telepathically with a host or other life form, manipulate the life-force of a host to sustain it past fatal injuries, open and close boom tubes, take over and control non-sentient machines, evolve non-sentient machines, merge sentient beings into a single more powerful being, sustain a life form in a hostile environment such as space, and do many other things. Mother Boxes have an affinity for the Source and are believed to draw their power from it. In that sense, they can be seen as a computer that links man to God."
     
  15. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Power rings aren't powered by emotion, they're catalysed by it.
    No, because later on Twilight goes to Canterlot and reconnects with her old friends. Like Moondancer. Twilight actually had reasonable social skills.

    Things could have gone very differently.
     
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  16. Threadmarks: Jungle Gym (part 13)
    Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Of course, the downside of everyone having superpowers-

    There's a splintering sound as a young woman crushes the base of the trunk of a young tree with her bare hands.

    -is that they can get away with rejecting technology. I don't think much of tribal society. It's something everyone starts with and which advanced civilisations grow out of. But if the Accala spread out across the area they might try and claim at a population density that would be sustainable… They'll never need tools, let alone science or technology. They can outrun cars now. Tear down trees with no need for chainsaws. As long as they can make the Danner formula they don't even have a use for draught animals. Not that they-.

    Or do they?

    "Dawn Warrior?" He turns back from the local he was talking to, who runs off to find someone senior. "Do your people farm?"

    "My tribe don't, but some of our allies do. We know how to, but we were worried that planting areas would give us away on aerial photographs." He looks away, frowning at Beryl as she moves her arm computer's camera around. "What are you doing?"

    "I want some photos." She smiles brightly. "I've never been to the Amazon Rainforest before."

    "Ah, okay."

    "I thought it was Australian tribes who thought cameras steal your souls when they take pictures."

    "Ah… It could be. But we get…" He shrugs. "The jungle is warm and damp, so we don't usually wear all that much. Sometimes, the tourists-."

    "I'm not taking 'private time' material." She lowers her computer and makes a show of turning off the camera. "Really."

    "Okay." He raises his hands in mock surrender. "Sorry."

    Though I see why they might get that sort of attention. Everyone I've seen so far is a Danner enhancile. Tribal people generally don't get that fat due to the fact that their lifestyles involve constant physical exercise and don't involve a lot of refined sugar, but they don't usually get as overtly muscular as civilised athletes do. But while the Danner formula doesn't make you huge it does make you muscular. And it keeps you in your physical prime. So there are a lot of healthy-looking young-looking men and women around who aren't used to seeing white people and probably haven't seen a superhero other than Dawn Warrior before.

    And as a result they're taking a break from their usual routine to wander over and stare at us.

    Dr Munro-. Ring, translator off.

    Compliance.

    Dr Munro is talking to them in their native language, which is provoking a little surprise. A couple of children are daring one another to touch Beatriz's fire, which… Hm, it shouldn't be hot enough to burn a Danner enhancile, not unless she puts a lot of effort into it. Beryl is-. Beryl has noticed Beatriz's unease and is trying to distract them with her computer. Raquel actually is checking people out-.

    "Hey… Orange."

    "Yes, Rocket?"

    "You can just dose anyone with that stuff, right?"

    "Yes, that's correct. Interested?"

    "I dunno." She's staring at one youth-. Who could be old enough to be her father for all we know. He spots her interest, smiles with extreme self-confidence and flexes a little. "How hard is it to hide it?"

    "No idea. But no one's spotted that Kon has super strength and Superman went through Junior School, High School and college without anyone spotting that he did. So it can't be that hard."

    "And the downside's that I have to eat an extra egg every day?"

    "And you can't use other forms of augmentation. And it will probably try regenerating your piercings."

    Her right hand goes to the collection of hoops piercing her right ear. "Oh."

    "That's what bothers you? Given how much exposure you've had to Terminan technology, I'd have thought-."

    The crowd parts, and a trio of older people walk through the crowd. Dawn Warrior immediately walks over to them and starts talking-.

    Ring, translation.

    Compliance.

    "…investigating one of us attacking a logging camp."

    A grey-haired woman who… Perhaps her mother just didn't want to have the formula? I'd be astonished if she actually predated Hugo's arrival in the jungle. She gives her head a dismissive shake.

    "We have not yet begun. You know this."

    "They tested blood found at the site. Danner formula, and there are only a handful of us outside of Brazil."

    One of the old men half-turns and whispers something to a stern-looking enhancile standing next to him, who turns around and takes off -metaphorically- at speed. The old man then turns to Dawn Warrior.

    "It will take some time to be sure. These people…" He looks at us. "They are here to stop us?"

    "No. They want to find out exactly what we want, and then negotiate with the government for us. They will make that part easier."

    "I think that making our initial attack a statement of intent would have a greater effect. But since they are here, we may-." He blinks, looking past me. "May well-."

    He brushes off his minders and strides past me, walking up to Dr Munro and staring in amazement. Dawn Warrior goes after him.

    "No, Elder. It's not him. That's his son, Doctor Arnold Munro."

    Dr Munro somewhat sheepishly nods his head. I suppose that the younger people he was talking to would have never met Hugo Danner, and they probably wouldn't have had a picture of him either. The resemblance would only be obvious to people who were around when he was.

    "Actually…" Beryl turns away from the children and brings up an image of an old… report of some kind. "That's not."

    What?

    Dr Munro turns to her with a frown, his neck curving slightly as he tries to read her screen from the wrong side.

    "Doctor Arnold Munro died in nineteen seventy four. In Brazil, doing veterinary work on isolated farms. Which is probably why he got buried without anyone notifying his family, because the people who found the body didn't know who he was and didn't know where he came from."

    She smiles at Dr M-. The man who apparently isn't Dr Munro.

    "Pretty good choice of fake ID, really. I had to check a whole load of forms manually, and it wasn't as if he wrote an itinerary. Took bloody ages."

    "How did you-?"

    "You're not the only Lantern on the team any more. Arisia needs more friends."

    The impostor nods, and I'm trying to work out where he could have gotten a shot of the Danner formula from. Or rather, his mother. I suppose there's no reason why Hugo couldn't have given it to someone outside of his tribal allies. Oh, please tell me that Lex didn't clone him.

    Beryl smiles smugly as she turns off her computer.

    "So why don't you tell everyone who you really are?"

    The impostor shrugs.

    "At this point, why wouldn't I?"
     
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  17. Revlis

    Revlis Making the rounds.

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    Dun dun duuuun.
     
  18. Cuchulin

    Cuchulin Not too sore, are you?

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    Holy Plot Twist Batman!
     
  19. Darko

    Darko I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    The plot thickens.

    Man Brazil is just clone central isn't it, first the Hitler clone and now Munroe.
    Boys from Brazil has never been more accurate.:D
     
  20. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Not too sore, are you?

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    I'm trying to work out if a tribe of Danners has a long term chance.

    Without a need for technology it would be rather hard maintaining any, long term, which would put them at a severe disadvantage.

    Someone could,for instance, kill their food supply, starving them.

    They are not a large enough group to have economic clout (see also lack of tech) and while their status as "tribe of hot looking victims of the state" would garner them sympathy, their ststus as superpowered people might negate that. A bit hard to be a victim when you can punch through metal.
     
  21. Yog

    Yog Know what you're doing yet?

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    So... What are the changes that this is actually Hugo Danner? Perhaps one that went through the Lazarus Pit (actually, has anyone tested if Danner formula is conpatible with the pit?).

    Also, OL should offer to dose everyone in the tribe with the formula. He can easily do it, and it'll help a lot. No weak dependants = strong negotiation position.

    And I hope Raquel finally goes for the augmentation.
     
  22. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    Oh, my bad, but what are they powered by then?
    The T'au would like a word.
     
  23. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Someone pick up that phone?

     
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  24. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker, Rookie Proofreader

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    I suppose having skin tougher than steel makes tool-use redundant... Along with most 'civilised' things.

    So Danner Enhanciles can jump past the stone- and bronze-age tiers in Civilization. Imagine that Mod. The biggest challenge would be metallurgy for things like steam technology...

    Sensible. I wonder just how long they could manage to subsist on forage and hunting, before they cleared out the area... Guess that why they're nomadic.

    Suuure, Beryl, sure. Surrounded by trim, muscluar young men and women... Anyone with a sex drive would be paying very intense attention.

    I'll bet they would. The tribes would be like a beauty parade...

    No, seriously, Beryl, we believe you. x3 <fingers crossed out of sight>

    Yowza. I wonder who else is eating the eye candy.:p

    Huh, the good Doctor seems surprisingly comfortable?

    Naughty, naughty, Raquel. But wait, Doc Munro can speak their tongue? Suspicious...

    Ah, someone's seeing the upside of being super-powered...

    Looks like the Team isn't the only ones enjoying the view.

    A little bit more than that. But the upsides are well worth it. A little practice holding back your strength, which Icon could help with...

    Seriously, that's your big concern? You can get clip-ons, you know. Or just squeeze bits of wire into place, even.

    Ah, the Elders have arrived. Time to get to the bottom of things.

    Straight to it, eh? I suppose there's no need for much politeness - when everyone is tough, no need to worry about fights.

    Interesting. Someone who actually knew Hugo himself?

    Sending a runner about the local tribes, eh? Another benefit of Enhancement: outrunning any ridable creature, so news spreads fast.

    Yeah, OL made it clear that unless they actually start shit, the Team won't start it either.

    Ah, another case of mistaken identity...

    Indeed. But that reaction... Surely Arnold doesn't resemble his father that much?

    Wait, what?

    No. Way, Is this going where I think it's going?

    She spotted something in the data, didn't she? The benefit of her natural knack for it.

    Odd sort of hint? Or is she saying she's buddy-buddy with the rookie Green?

    OL, OL, OL... Surely you aren't this blind, are you? Think outside your preconceptions for a moment...

    Hello, Hugo Danner. To borrow a phrase: It appears reports of your death were exaggerated...

    Well, that happened. No wonder 'Arnold' was so interested in meeting other Danner Enhanciles... He wanted to meet more people like himself, all right. And his work with Lex... Lex didn't need to track down the formula, did he? Not when he could find the original test subject!:eek:
     
  25. Old Knife

    Old Knife Getting sticky.

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    because that's actually hugo danner?
     
  26. Massgamer

    Massgamer Know what you're doing yet?

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    I'm really confused, this isn't the comics Arnold who is Hugo's son?
     
  27. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    In Gladiator, being hit by lightning killed Hugo Danner.

    In the comics, that was Hugo faking his death with some random south american schlub's corpse.

    So Hugo Danner has a history of faking his death.

    Unless Zoat is throwing us a curveball.
     
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    ArKFallen unTitled

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    The rings manipulate the Emotional Electromagnetic Spectrum to work and don't actually consume anything to function.
    Each of the colors were split off the White Light of Life entity early in the universe; the WLL entity is an(the?) embodiment of Life in the universe just as Nekron is for the Black Light of Death.
     
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  29. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    The Emotional Spectrum, which appears to be built into the universe.
    About how much they agree and if I've got any ideas on how to convince the kroot?
     
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    Breadnaught I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    And she waited until now to speak up? Rather than any point before they were in the middle of a jungle surrounded by superpeople?

    I mean, if he responds negatively to you outing him and picks a fight, you're now among a group of people that have been actively hiding from outsiders for decades, so probably have some level of xenophobia, even if their leaders were wise enough to actively try and avoid that. And this guy happens to look like their god.

    So if a fight does break out, what side do you think the hundreds of superpeople are going to take?
     
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