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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    Because Paul is smart enough that after he determines if he could, he stops to ask if he should.
    (Usually.)

    Bold of you to assume 'or'.
     
  2. Mquz

    Mquz Versed in the lewd.

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    So since we’re getting back to ponies and unicorns...

    Lately, I’ve been reading the Laundry Files series of books by Charles Stross. It’s a sci-fi horror comedy series set in a Lovecraftian modern-day universe where the main character basically works for the British MIB. Anyway, one of the freely available short stories, Equoid, has probably the most horrifying kind of unicorn I’ve ever seen in any piece of literature. It’d be amazing to see something like it implemented in a MLP fic.
     
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  3. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Unfortunately, those things aren't clever enough.
     
  4. Simonbob

    Simonbob Really? You don't say.

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    Space Communists, what are you gonna do?

    Still nicer than almost all other factions. Eh, 40K.
     
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  5. Massgamer

    Massgamer Know what you're doing yet?

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    Really enjoying how the Tau are being so open-minded about this in general and taking Paul's word as long as he gives good information.
     
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  6. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I suppose it would depend on whether Zoat likes the Tau or not. I mean, in comics, Luthor is the very definition of stupid evil. Doesn't matter what happens, what godlike abilities he somehow obtains, or new super tech he comes up with. He ALWAYS tries to kill Superman anyway.

    But, in WTR, Lex is a bit more of a sensible human being. A bit more.


    Wait...there are still people who haven't put Vaermina on ignore?
     
  7. lancelot

    lancelot Grand High Poobah

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    Seriously isn't that the first thing someone does when they go from SB, to SV, and then to QQ. Really putting that fucking idiot of a troll on ignore should be medical advice at this point. Guaranteed to lower your blood pressure when you don't have to deal with bad faith arguments, LIES, out right trolling, and ignoring counter points that complete shut down his bullshit.

    Rule ??: First things after signing up put Vaermina on ignore. Don't worry nothing of value will be lost.
     
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  8. Bramble Thorn

    Bramble Thorn Verified Silhouette

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    Well, aren't you an entitled, dismissive little asshat.

    Are Orc Infiltrators a thing that exists?
    Like Green Skinned Brutes mincing around on tiptoes loudly whispering to each other "NOW BE VERY VERY QUIET!" in Ork Speech?
    Or is it more like Malfean Stealth, where scaring and intimidating them so much they pretend they never saw you counts as a success?
     
  9. jaelin910

    jaelin910 habitual lurker

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    I put people on ignore when they make me angry and Vaermina doesn't really exceed exasperation as far as I'm concerned. I'm somewhat fascinated (and exasperated) to see what Vaermina will say next for much the same reason I've watched a couple of flat earth videos*; I'm not going to pretend someone doesn't exist just because they say stupid things.

    *and I don't mean these ones.
     
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  10. Chaoswind

    Chaoswind Lord of nonsense

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    There is an idea... Because this Paul is assimilating orcs and every time they respawn the orcs dump their memories on him...
     
  11. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    It's not so much 'the tau' as it is the handful of shellshocked individuals the SI has met so far, most of who know that he's the reason they weren't eaten by orks. No one he's met so far is senior enough to make policy decisions.
     
  12. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    No, not assimilate, consume.

    He doesn't have a lantern, so he eats demons to regain charge.

    An influx of energy that somehow formed a soul, which is a structure of energy.

    Zoat has the soul be like a body made out of energy.

    Two things, so far, differentiate souls in this story, structure and composition.

    New God apotheosis changes the structure of the soul so it can grow larger over time, like a reverse bonzai.

    Composition also affects souls, since Zoat made Blaze not a half demon but a 100% biological human with a soul made out of Hell energy, likewise Alan was undergoing a transformation into a Will Elemental from his ring leaking, which his soul naturally absorbed like a sponge.

    So Sybarite consumed demons, which provided energy, but what provided a shape for his soul?

    Now I might very well be wrong, but sans another explanation, the idea that Sybarite had a latent soul structure but just hadn't been exposed to enough energy to form that structure seems like the simplest explanation.

    Especially since the various Pauls keep going on about Earth-Prime not having magic (although Mysa Nal of Earth-Prime says hi).
     
  13. desolatedsabers

    desolatedsabers Getting sticky.

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    ORKIE COMANDYS ARE VEWY STELFY. THEY PUHPUL. ALWAYS SNEKY, HOOMIES, SQUIDS, N ELVIES NEVA SEE EM.
     
  14. Simonbob

    Simonbob Really? You don't say.

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    Ork Kommandos, as I recall.

    Yes, stealthy orks are a thing. A silly thing, but so are orks.
     
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  15. Grimnar

    Grimnar Versed in the lewd.

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    When you dismiss the Tau as anything but fanatic military imperialists you deserve to be lol'ed at. They are explicitly a nation hopped up on their own juice, and snarling at the bit to take everything they can get their grubby mitts on.
     
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  16. Darko

    Darko Versed in the lewd.

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    Sybarite was said to be essentially like Satanus and Angelica, before her transformation, so his soul is just hell magic that behaves like a regular earth magic one.
    His biggest diffrence would be the composition, though yeah the structure also plays a big role, so he probably has similar avarice based powers like paragon, but instead of being just pure emotional manipulation it is more demonic in his case.

    Zoat can paragon manipulate the emotions of those around him even without his ring, no matter how small that manipulation is, like making them confess what they want?

    I know he can see the other colors, with or without the ring, but i was wondering if he could manipulate their avarice and desires without his ring?

    Can the paragon travel through the Honden of Avarice without his ring?

    Could all enlightened people manipulate the emotions of those around them without using a power ring, or any other such emotion manipulating device, or even magic, but simply by focusing and trying to stir whatever emotion they have become enlightened to in another person?

    If a New God were to become enlightened then would they be able to manipulate the light they have become enlightened to, like Stewart 50 can, making constructs and having the other powers that light provides without using a ring or any device?

    If a New God were to become enlightened even after they have some kind of Domain then would they lose their Domain, or become a god of their original Domain and whatever emotion they have become enlightened to?
    I think you said something about New Gods only being able to have one Domain, but that they could stretch it.

    Will Highfather have white quote marks in your story?
     
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  17. desolatedsabers

    desolatedsabers Getting sticky.

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    sooo, do people forget that like, the imperium, an IMPERIALIST FANATICAL OGLIARCHY, has that entire system where your descendants can be punished for you failing to follow a command or something? like that book of the whatever the fuck, and the trials can go on long after the original people are dead. and servitors. and a whole bunch of other shit that every other faction has done, but when it's the imperium of man it's suddenly perfectly okay?
     
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  18. Chaoswind

    Chaoswind Lord of nonsense

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    I am thankful we are leaving warhammer behind and going back to the regular programming.
     
  19. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    They paint themselves purple I believe.

    Because you've never seen a purple Ork.
     
  20. Hidden Variable

    Hidden Variable Getting out there.

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    Niether of the warhammer pauls are going to get a soul by traditional means. If they ever do get one it will be a complicated process likely involving high level spellcasters/psykers and possibly the help of a order-aligned god. As jury-rigging one like main Paul did out of available materials will either turn him into a chaos spawn or a daemon prince. That would probably be bad.
     
  21. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Not to a significant degree. And always to a slight degree.
    At will? No.
    All people can do that, so yes.
    No, but the Source provides.
    I'm not sure that New Gods have the same psychological mechanism.
    Probably not.
    [​IMG]
     
  22. Darko

    Darko Versed in the lewd.

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    Thought that if Highhfather had white enlightenment then that's how he would get rid of the AL equation.

    Barda said that he will be getting rid of the Keys fragment.
     
  23. jasonh23761

    jasonh23761 The debate continues, Brotherhood or Enclave?

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    My apologies if this has been covered before but given how Paul ended up in the DC universe without a soul and had to fashion his own, does the same apply here? The results could be quite interesting, and also disturbing.

    Hmm, I think I've found a hill I'm willing to die on, I've always done Tyranid in the same way as Tyrant, especially since the Imperium named them that because one of the earliest encounters with them was at the planet of Tyran. One thing I've noticed is that who one goes for in 40K is very much dependent on what section of lore they were first exposed to and built from there. I unfortunately started out with 5E Space Marines and then had to sort of expand from there, took me a few years to find my home with the Guard, though the Ciaphas Cain series very much helped with that.
     
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  24. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Yes, but 40k has plenty of things without souls so it's not as much of a big deal.

    Obviously I'm retretconning the pariah gene back in.
    See, that's the justification I've always used.

    In answer to your other question, the Enclave Reborn submod makes them far more interesting to play (reform, anyway) than any of the Brotherhood factions, having an actual reason to fight everyone as well as a massive focus tree.
     
  25. Stsword

    Stsword I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Zoat has implied that all the alt.Pauls started off soulless.

    Some of them still are, for example if I recall correctly Zoat indicated that Saul from the Boys never grew a soul, but since there is a lack of known magic users in the setting it just doesn't come up.

    But various other alt.Pauls have grown a soul in some fashion or other. Anti-Green from getting dunked in a Lazarus Pit more often than he changes his socks, Sybarite from eating demons, Paul's tattoos, Gravy with the Father Box, etc, etc.
     
  26. jasonh23761

    jasonh23761 The debate continues, Brotherhood or Enclave?

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    Sweet, I always liked that whole bit with the Pariahs, was a tad annoyed when I realized they had been effectively replaced with the Lychguard, who were far less interesting as a concept anyways.

    Thanks for that by the way, ERB is always such a delight to play and honestly, my one time through the purity route felt like such a chore to get through. Plus the whole idea of forming the state of Nevada and helping give the legion the finger amuses me quite a bit. Hmm, so many ideas for when OWB gets around to the Chicago Enclave..... eventually.
     
  27. Maxx Crowley

    Maxx Crowley I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    WHY ARE ALL THOSE WEAPONS JUST FLOATING IN THE AIR!?
     
  28. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    The Ld 7 bubble ability has so many more tactical options. I was annoyed when the Culexus Assassin lost that ability as well.
    Purity was done first, and I get the feeling that they were learning how to make focus trees at the time. Hopefully they'll go back to it. I'd like a mechanism for coring territory where you exterminate mutants and replace them with cloned perfect humans, causing a drop in manpower until you build it back up. I'd also like Anderson to have a democraticish route and not have to do Presidential Dictatorship or nothing.
     
  29. Coda

    Coda Not too sore, are you?

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    Inconsistent spelling

    One word
     
  30. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
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