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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. SirKaid

    SirKaid Know what you're doing yet?

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    Bribing politicians to take environmentalist positions? It's not actually all that expensive to purchase a congressmember, on the order of a few thousand dollars.

    Might as well get all that corruption working for him.
     
  2. FreeGod

    FreeGod If you see a God on the road fuck it!

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    That might be smart, but swamp thing just doesn't do that sort of thing. He does ultimatums not bribes.
     
  3. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Paul may be able to change his methodology.

    Granted Paul is friends with Constantine so Swamp Thing may not listen to him all that much.
     
  4. Korfayron

    Korfayron Making the rounds.

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    can you drop a link to this?
     
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  5. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Don't know how to do a link, but the story is called 'Marry The Knight' on literotica.
     
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  6. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    I'm quite relieved to see that you're consciously aware of that, as I had considered it possible that you weren't.


    I find myself looking forward to Koriand'r's Gotham ride-along.
     
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  7. m_d

    m_d Fascinated by storytelling

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    For anyone who wants the link: Marry The Knight (Note, this is a series. I haven't checked, but I think that the Ivy, Starfire, viagra bit isn't in this installment.)

    Incidentally, Darko, thanks for letting me know it was there. The author used to have that fic as well as a lot of other sexually explicit fics on Archive of Our Own but first stopped posting them, then started taking them down after getting harrassed both in comments on the site and on multiple social networks about putting sex in comic book universes that are "clearly for kids". I hadn't saved many of them before they were deleted so I actually never got to read a bunch of the later chapters of stories I'd liked the beginning of but never got around to reading. Though looking, not all of them are on Literotica either. Phooey. I liked Ultimacy.
     
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  8. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Can you give a brief summary of what Ultimacy was?
     
  9. AidanMorgan

    AidanMorgan Essentially Overworked

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    See, this was probably floated, and maybe even attempted, but do you remember what happened the last time people tried to chainsaw Swamp Thing's plants?
     
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  10. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Oh, don't worry. It was about the time... Well, I read a complaint that an author subscribed to a form of utilitarianism which would require them to torture a child to death if it prevented a sufficiently large number of people getting a small scratch. The implication being that a small scratch should never be sufficient justification. Then I realised that if the number of scratches was very big and a proportion would get infected and wouldn't be treated... Yes, you could get to a point where that kind of made sense.

    It may be monstrous, but it may still be in the best interest of the community as a whole.
    I apologise for misleading you. That won't actually be the focus of the episode.
    Ah, I started reading that. I gave up when the inefficient repopulation program started to annoy me.
     
  11. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    The brainwashing may be in the best interest of the community as a whole, but turning them into sexual playthings really doesn't serve the community, or him for that matter as even those willing to accept that the brainwashing may be necessary may not accept the sex slave part and may try to rebel against him, because leaving someone that twisted in charge can end terribly for a lot of people even if it does appear he is doing a lot of good. They may try to keep doing what he is doing, advancing the world, even if they remove him, but not doing the horrible shit he is doing.

    Will this episode at least focus on Kori, even if it doesn't focus on her Gotham ride-along?

    Zoat so far we've seen various alternate version of Orange Ring wielders and what they're doing.

    Are we ever going to see more versions of alternate ring colors Paul's, like different red ring wielders, aside from Raul, different yellow ring wielders, aside from LP. etc.?
     
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  12. Idkusername

    Idkusername Versed in the lewd.

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    You are quoting an entirely separate conversation, about the failings of utilitarianism.

    You've continually brought the thread back to same topic and don't say anything new, and it's getting really annoying.
     
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  13. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    I was referring to the scratch thing.
    She's in it more, yes.
    Probably not. Extreme ring users with buckle under the madness or go v'tosh ka'tur. Another red ring user would either be rabid or more of the same.
     
  14. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    I was thinking more along the lines of say a yellow ring version that became a superhero or something close to that and how he would go about using his ring to perform his activities, unlike Lord Protector who's a ruler and doesn't engage in superheroics, aside from potentially fighting Mumm Ra sometime in the future, or a blue lantern that wasn't forced to become a criminal etc.

    Basically not so much a focus on them mastering their rings, but on what they would be like under different circumstances and what they could achieve under those different circumstances if they made different choices.

    Are we ever going to see a version of Paul that ended up with a non standard DC comics power ring, like say a Teal Ring?

    There was this omake in the Teal Lantern story on SB where Paul is having an argument with his Teal Ring about the ring not allowing him to snipe al Ghul.:D
     
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  15. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Mastering the ring and what that does to their personality is where the internal conflict comes from. I wouldn't want to remove that.
    Probably not. I did have an idea for a one-segment crossover with that bunny Lantern story, but that one has been dead for a while.
     
  16. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    You wouldn't have to remove the internal conflict of them mastering their rings, just alter their circumstances, like Blue Lantern not having to be a criminal, or them choosing a different career path.

    We've seen various versions of the Orange Lantern variety that chose different career paths and ended up in different circumstances, so writing about other alternate ring color users, aside from the ones you already wrote, shouldn't be all that difficult to someone of your talent.

    Hope you actually do this.
     
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  17. rdfox

    rdfox Getting sticky.

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    In fairness, it wasn't all of the female cops ogling her. Just two: Maggie Sawyer and Renee Montoya. Because they're, y'know, gay.

    The rest of the women in the stationhouse (and, IIRC, the one gay male cop in the room) were instead rather amused at the reactions once they noticed Sawyer and Montoya joining in.

    Well, given that the whole plot of the story was, according to its creator, basically an excuse for writing as much polyamorous smutty shenanigans as possible, is it a surprise that it's inefficient?
     
  18. gustyeagle

    gustyeagle Know what you're doing yet?

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    The latest in OL misunderstanding people in obviously wrong ways.
     
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  19. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    He wouldn't be the Paul we know and... love(yeah let's go with that), if he didn't do that.
     
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  20. Idkusername

    Idkusername Versed in the lewd.

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    Honesty, at this point I've chosen to believe he understands perfectly, he just finds it funny.
     
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  21. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Why couldn't it be both?
     
  22. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Zoat what happened to Morrow in the renegade timeline if Truggs didn't assimilate him like in the paragon side?
     
  23. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    He just died.
     
  24. Coda

    Coda I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    American

    spacegoing or space-going, depending on your preference.
     
  25. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  26. ChiChi

    ChiChi Not too sore, are you?

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    https://forum.questionablequesting....stice-si-story-only.8961/page-19#post-2451272
    this post and the next few after it are prime examples of inconsistent story arcs if they were threadmarked properly it'd be one thing then I could just follow the threadmarks but as it is it's a bit of a pain trying to keep track of multiple story arcs the way it currently is

    it could also be reposted to AO3 with the alternate paths being in separate stories of the same series

    https://forum.questionablequesting....stice-si-story-only.8961/page-20#post-2451349
    the next thread mark on this one doesn't go to the next post in the plot line

    recognize? make it a threat... Hellspore?
     
  27. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    On thinking more on it. I think part of why it didn't hit me as hard as it has hit others is I'm honestly not sure if I'd be any better if given that kind of power. Oh, sure, I'd like to be able to say that I'd never resort to mass brainwashing to get what I want. That I'd never make someone want to be with me.

    But I can't. Not really. Faced with the temptation to just be able to make people want the same things that you want? To know that, at any time, you could have your crush return your feelings? All you have to do is use the power that has been given to you and you can make it happen. All your dreams can come true.

    I'd worry that within a week I'd be monologuing about creating the perfect world once the network of orbital mind control lasers comes online.

    And I wouldn't even have the excuse that I accidentally drank a literal Evil Potion. But I'm sure I'd strive to be a benevolent God-King. I'd even convince myself that it's for the greater good. Look at how happy everyone is. How bad can I possibly be?
     
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  28. Ace Dreamer

    Ace Dreamer Questioning The Nature of our Realities

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    There was a story idea, called 'Master PC', which tv tropes says first appeared in 1998. Lots of stories were written based on this, and I believe some might still be. It was the ultimate power trip for PC users, a free program offered in an e-mail which could totally re-write the basic laws of reality, in terms of people's bodies and personalities, in a considerable radius (quite a few miles/kilometres). Permanently, with 'no saving throw'. The only downside? Who else might be running a copy. Note you could forward a copy to your friends...

    Of course, I think it was a sex fantasy, of a serious power-trip kind, and, those stories might interest some. What I thought far more interesting was that more serious fanfic authors wrote SI stories, where it was them that received the program, and what they might do to the real world with it. Some were really fascinating.

    So, don't think Evil OL is on an 'ultimate power trip', there's those out there that make him look like an amateur.
     
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  29. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    But you don't need mind control to do all that.

    You just need money and your own intelligence.

    And on that note, mind controlling your crush into liking you would change said crush from the person you liked into basically someone else with the same looks. And well, if all you wanted the person for was their looks, power ring plastic surgery can make anyone you want look like anyone else you want.
     
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  30. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    Is that a different group from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, or do they just have a different name on Earth-16?
     
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