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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Silverias

    Silverias Making the rounds.

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    This coming from you drips with so much irony that you need gutters installed.
     
  2. Vaermina

    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    Theory =/= Fact

    Further, he has no real idea how they are doing what they are doing, so his assumption that they are operating under the same theoretical limitations as Earth based magic users is not just stupid, but dangerously stupid.
     
  3. Ace Dreamer

    Ace Dreamer Questioning The Nature of our Realities

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    You might want to think about whether they feel they've got time to consider what 'model' of space-magic they should be using?

    The 'suck it and see' approach. :)
    (Yes, I'm aware, this is QQ. :) )
     
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  4. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker, Rookie Proofreader

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    The big concern is what will they be doing while you wait? Is it something you can afford to allow them to do? Better to go in hard and prevent it.

    And I doubt there's enough structure out here to support the creation of any kind of pattern. Unless they're hoping it happens to Pluto.

    I mean, OL can accept the calculus of war, but there's only so far you can go...

    Which would be a total pyrrhic victory move.And a dick one.

    ...OL, you really should be paying attention to Pluto...

    Thanks goodness someone isn't holding an idiot ball out here. Seriously, OL is going out of his way to have tunnel vision there.

    He's guessing whoever's controlling the ClusterCorp workers has to be nearby? It's a logical assumption.

    Yes, he's always like this. You get used to ignoring it...

    I'm impressed, he's already good at keeping Manga Khan on plot.

    No doubt thinking 'Seriously, who gave him a power ring, and how can I slap him upside the head?'

    He'd have to be fucking amazing at it...

    Oh gods, please don't let him get started on the marketing goodthink doublespeak...

    Well, he's efficient when sufficiently motivated, at least. Didn't even slow down.

    Can get a little carried away, though...

    Oh, shite, it is the Chaos Starros. Time to go Doomguy on them!

    Clever. That hopefully breaks the spell instantly.

    Ow. I bet that doesn't feel pleasant...

    But a total dick. It's getting a kick in the sphincter-mouth for that.

    Ouch, it overloaded it? That must have taken a lot out of it, though - those spell eaters are built Tonka tough...

    And that will get the other local Lanterns on site five minutes ago. Good call.

    Thanks goodness for nigh-indestructible skin.

    Kick it inna gubbins!

    FEED!

    Nicely done, leeched almost all of its magic out of it...

    "Ah, a favorable welcome! You missed me!"

    Okay, ship's secured. Now for the Russian crews (assuming they weren't amongst the enthralled) and whatever's happening to Pluto. Because a continent-sized Star Conqueror is not going to be fun to fight. And yes, they grow that large.

    Feels awkward. Perhaps 'puppeteering' would fit better?
     
  5. Darko

    Darko Versed in the lewd.

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    Haa!

    Called it:

    No Ayn Rand bullshit speeches, please.

    Not really a shame.

    While an Ace of Order could be useful, its primary abilities would be damaging Chaos elementals and some other magical beings.

    While the Helmet can provide a mage with a great deal of power and has far more versatility, like teleportation, magical shields, healing and who knows what else.

    By contrast an Ace of Order would only be able to harm some things without the versatile powers the Helmet provides.

    I guess he can try to make such and Ace if Nabu left notes on what his Helmet is made of, making more of that stuff and then infusing it with Order magic.

    He could ask Hephaestus and Vulcan for help with that.

    These Star Conquerors were created when Klarion used his magic on them.

    Klarion, being a Lord of Chaos, lacks many of the restrictions that mortal magic users have on where they can use their magic, so maybe his altered Star Conquerors can dosome things an ordinary mortal can't.

    Ok, I gotta ask, but have you actually been reading this story, or not?

    Paul has spent time in Atlantis, is in contact with several knowledgeable magic users, one of which has what is possibly the largest library of arcane knowledge in existence, courtesy of its former owner being a space traveling alien Lord of Order who most likely also brought knowledge of magic from other planets, has acquired a great deal of knowledge about magic, has a database made by an ancient race that has encountered millions of civilizations, several of which were most likely magic using ones, he's been having a former Atlantean city explore the connection between the material universe and the Dreaming for him etc.

    As for why he didn't assume they wouldn't operate under the same restrictions as Earth magic users, that can be explained as him using his previously acquired knowledge from his many, many sources on how mortal magic users can operate, and despite their nature, the Star Conquerors are at the end of the day still mortal magic users, with just a few Chaos modifications made.

    Forget what Silverias said, you don't need a gutter for all your painfully ironic statements, you need a continent wide sewage system.
     
  6. Ace Dreamer

    Ace Dreamer Questioning The Nature of our Realities

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    All makes sense to me... With the proviso, people get inventive/innovative, every so often. :)
    (It all had to be created sometime/somewhere, no matter how fantasy stories tell us to only look to the past for the good stuff... The gold you made the 'Golden Age' from had to come from somewhere... "Our ancestors were so much more clever than us." Ha! :) )
     
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  7. Belenus

    Belenus Not too sore, are you?

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    Genocide is just extinction with motivation.
     
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  8. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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  9. Radiant Knight

    Radiant Knight Phoenix Fire

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    Honestly if it didn't have such a big chance of backfiring, probably the best way to deal with Star Conquerers would be to dump Black Mercy onto them.
     
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  10. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Guess my question regarding magic has been answered.

    Could the Star Hunter have a self-based magic system?

    Basically an ego so big it generates it's own magic field?
     
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  11. Profipfreely

    Profipfreely Verified Pun

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    I don't know if it's intended, but that "Because-" doesn't have an ending dash (-). Seems out of place since you have "thralls-" and "-drop".
     
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  12. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    In this case, it's becuase the Guardians of the Universe exterminated magic from said universe.

    Except for Earth, because they knew very well that poking the White Entity with an antimagic stick would be a case of "they chose...poorly."
     
  13. Darko

    Darko Versed in the lewd.

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    The comic Guardians did lock away magic from the rest of the universe, but this stories version most likely didn't.
     
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  14. fluffy

    fluffy Getting sticky.

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    That one of the funniest lines this story has ever produced.
     
  15. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Because has a full stop, as the result he was trying to bring about then happened.
     
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  16. Darko

    Darko Versed in the lewd.

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    Yeah, it reminded me a bit of this:

     
  17. topin89

    topin89 Virgin Centrist

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    Should be
     
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  18. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
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  19. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Know what you're doing yet?

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    Hahahahaha... Loving your understated humour Mr Zoat.
     
  20. Idkusername

    Idkusername Not too sore, are you?

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    But let's not be disingenuous. I know that's not what you meant, and let's respond to what you did mean.

    First of all, like Darko said, Paul has a host of experts to back up his opinion. Secondly, Earth based magic is different from other forms of magic only in where it powers itself from, and th inherent rules of that source.

    This has been established before in the story multiple times.
     
  21. Megaolix

    Megaolix Moderator

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    Don't go there.
     
  22. WereDragon

    WereDragon Bookwyrm

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    Wonder if he is lying to Adams or himself.
     
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  23. Darko

    Darko Versed in the lewd.

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    The greatest liars are those that believe their own lies.
     
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  24. nogoodnames

    nogoodnames Getting some practice in, huh?

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    Was going back in over parts of the story and came across a mention of a left eye while Grayven is transported to Major Kelly in arc Escalation as he uses it on a disguised Grayven to find out what he knows. Seems relevant to 'Evil' Paul. This to me indicates he would be a Grayven problem



     
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  25. Darko

    Darko Versed in the lewd.

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    Hey Zoat how is Gold, formerly Anti Green, Paul's relationship with his version of Supes like?
     
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  26. DrThoth

    DrThoth Not too sore, are you?

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    Do Star Conquerors have a hive mind deal or are they capable of being individuals? I know they're literally Starfish Aliens but is it possible to have some of the species (whether the classic type or the new magical kind) act according to conventional human/humanoid morality? A heroic magic-telepath starfish could be fun.
    I'd have to reread their initial appearance, but my current impression is that their hostility largely stems from self-preservation, from their point of view, as well as natural instincts to control people to fulfil their goals. Are they incapable of learning a different path?
     
  27. Xmaster3000

    Xmaster3000 Making the rounds.

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    Well, there is Jarro.
     
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  28. Darko

    Darko Versed in the lewd.

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    Really hope Jarro shows up and gets adopted by OL.

    That scene with him helping Batman against Deathstroke was just beautiful.
     
  29. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    They don't really have one. Or at least, not more than Superman has with any random superhero he met a few times.
     
  30. Darko

    Darko Versed in the lewd.

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    Thought that they'd have a friendly one after Supes offered to help him with the ring.

    Is Cursitor Doom on the same level of magic power with the likes of Giovanni Zatara, or is he stronger, like those Roanoke sorcerers?
     
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