With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Was Pluto the location of the mass relay in Mass Effect? Or one of its moons? It would be a funny joke if that’s what this was. I know it isn’t but coming from a mass effect fic to this just had my brain go there and gave me a laugh.

 

Some morse code in there. Orange dots and dashes near the beginning, putting translation in spoiler.

Spoiler: translation

Lord Lantern

 

Can someone translate Manga Khan's Morse code?

I'm betting it says "Lord and Lantern" or something like that.

Edit: Ninjas. Also I was right!

 

What makes you think that Paul was worried about the gravitational pull of the neutronium? Paul doesn't mention that at all in the reasons why the ship might be moving.

First of all, that was an off-the-head number for a hypothetical worst case scenario. Second of all, fucking explosions strong enough to eject matter outside the atmosphere, and a series of them, so it doesn't have to be single mass that explodes simultaneously.

Yeah, he tanked his own reputation, and refuses to pull his head out of his ass, and constantly annoy the rest of the thread. That's not being thick-skinned, that's being pig-headed.

Hmm.

Yeah, he's no saint. He is just as vitriolic as the rest of us, he just has so many detractors it's hard to see that.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

I agree on the mass issue. A million tonnes of something is a billion kilograms, or 10^9 kg. Plugging that into the gravitational force equation, that mass a meter away from you would cause an acceleration of about 6.7*10^-11 * 10⁹ = 0.067 m/s². Something far enough away to be on the planet they're orbiting would have to be several orders of magnitude lower than even that. Either the mass is off, or it's not gravity causing the issue.

 

Even a beginner's ward should be sufficient at this point. Best to be careful anyway.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

'Lord Lantern' again? Seriously, Manga khan, he's not going to call you that no matter how many times you IM him.

Assuming they make it that far. Pluto is still cracking, isn't it?

Good to know they're safe. Presumably they were being used as batteries for the Chaos Starros' spellcasting.

Yet more work for Atlantis.

Ugh. Seriously, if only you had the direct authority to smack him upside the aurora.

Hopefully the League's previous dosage of anti-Starro device will hold out. Wouldn't do for the team to get mind-controlled again.

...Well, that isn't good.

Why ask him, he doesn't care enough to know.

God, it's like Manga Khan has been sapping his intelligence this whole arc.

They didn't need to go down there, they were already there!

I would still have real-time monitoring active. Even if you can't go outside yourself, you can look.

Here's hoping she doesn't get hit first by whatever's digging its way free of Pluto.

...Fuck, it's strong enough to pull them in from orbit?

Moving might be a good idea in general...

Oh, nothing much, just Pluto rolling in its sleep...

Physics isn't that loose, even in this universe. It'd have to vent, what, a thousand ship's masses worth of atmosphere to shift its orbital trajectory that much.

And it's really making your neck itch, isn't it? Feeling a knife there, about to slip in?

So many things, so little likelihood of any of them being the cause...

It's going to be like that scene in the Akira movie, isn't it? When Tetsuo lifts that container out of the underground vault... Slabs of rock tumbling like pebbles before something vast.

I'm sure others have plenty to say about the neutronium thing. All I know, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near it, whether it's moving or not...

And now the Captain's starting to get concerned, isn't he? This is a bit above his pay-grade...

Oh, boy, that line's a big opening for so many comebacks...

Well, that's not good at all. Are we about to lose Pluto? It just never catches a break in any DC timeline, does it?

Man, this is looking worse and worse. And OL has no idea what's about to rip out of there, yet. Let's hope his telepathic shielding is up to snuff against five brains the size of New York State...

 

Zoat did Paul just create some kind of symbol, most likely the symbol of the Orange Light, near the Star Conquerors and just set it up so that it absorbs their magic using Orange Light, like how he absorbed some of Sephtians magic after the Hell fiasco?

 

How are they so blase about this?

The Star Conquerors cracked a dwarf planet and Paul is worried about the ship???

And he even detected a structure!

Unless the Stars are messing with their m(inds I will be very disappointed in them for not getting that something dangerus is breaking out.

 

I don't remember exactly what he did back then, but no. This works the orange sigil into it but also has a lot of other runic programming.

 

Here's what he did

Nice to see Paul advance in his use of magic.

 

In space all motion is relative, so yes.

If the star conqueror is cut off from the rest of the collective by the telepathic inhibitor, it's identity should be small enough to assimilate.

 

These Star Conquerors were modfied by Klarions magic, so it may not be that easy.

 

In Mass Effect, Charon is a relay incased in ice.

 

Pluto is a dwarf planet, it is scientifically a planet, just so tiny as to be inconsequential.

 

No, V says stuff like this:

At least when they’re even involving the person making the argument at all, generally they stick to the actual argument.

Everyone else responds with this:

It not equivalent, at all. There’s only so far past reputation can justify your gut reactions, especially when I’ve seen interactions with V and others (presumably not regular commentators) that are generally positive on both sides. Even the regular’s who pile on generally have some kinda rebuttal, but you gotta add the toxic comments too. V has a problem with automatically having ‘Paul is wrong’ as a stance, you guys have a problem with automatically having ‘V is wrong’ as a stance. That’s an equivalency that works. V has the mildest form of aggression I’ve ever seen though, and his biases on Paul don’t really effect anyone but himself (unless you let it) because I’m almost certain Zoat has got him on ignore. You guys have the most self-righteous form of aggression I’ve ever seen for the most trivial shit, and while V seems to be fine with it, it’s still aggressively mobbing the unpopular kid.

 

We don't have an automatic problem with Vaermina whenever they post some new comment. There are times when people have agreed with what they posted, including myself, rare as those moments are, but if they continue to post comment after comment with no basis in reality whatsoever and use every justification, no matter how insignificant. nonsensical, misinformed and pathetic it is, to justify it, which they tend to do most of the time, then people really aren't going to want to be friendly or agree with them. If they also don't actually try to stop or change their stance, even when provided with reasonable evidence on why their stance is wrong, then people won't try to politely dissuade them. There comes a point where you can just lose patience with someones stupidity, that being polite to them feels like a wasted effort.

And calling us self righteous and aggressive over trivial shit is ironic considering that Vaermina has practically come to define that on this site.

 

Or what I actually see: ‘If they don’t try to stop or change their stance, even when piled on and aggressively mocked, they deserve what’s comin to em’. Because we all know having a personal head canon despite someone on the internet disagreeing with you, is grounds for whatever insult you can think of.

I’m not seeing it, overly certain maybe, aggressive and self-righteous? Nah.

 

Seconding that Vaermina is, unusually, actually right here. A million ton of neutronium has a mass of a million tons, which is basically nothing on a planetary scale. Now, a million cubic tons of neutronium at neutron star density... would still only raise Pluto's mass by 3%.

A million of a human-scale volumetric unit simply isn't gonna make any impression on a planet.

 

It's more like 'If they don't change their stance when presented with logical reasons why their stance is wrong, and hold onto those wrong beliefs no matter what, then you honestly find it difficult to sympathize with them'.

No, an individual having a personal head canon despite someone on the internet disagreeing with them isn't grounds for insulting that individual, but having a personal head canon that you believe in, when said canon makes zero sense, contradicts the actual canon of the story, and you still hold onto it even when told in a reasonable way why it is wrong, and insult and consider everyone that disagrees with you on your beliefs, even when they try to be as reasonable as possible, to be utter morons that are barely able to function, then people can become less polite, seeing as politeness doesn't seem to be working.

If being polite and reasonable doesn't work anymore, maybe being insulting and reasonable will. It's certainly a lot less mentally taxing than trying to be polite to someone like that.

Just because someone is a pariah that doesn't mean they're somehow a poor victim that needs to be defended from everyone that thinks badly of them. There are times when the pariah can just be a giant bastard that people tried to be friendly with, but they just kept insulting those people, so those people eventually just stopped being polite. The insults we throw at Vaermina are at least based in reality and truth, unlike many other pariahs, who have had things completely made up about them to insult them.

We may have a very different definition on overly certain and aggressive self-righteousness.

Vaermina has been doing shit like this since Zoat started writing this story on SB, which was about 7 years ago, and doesn't seem to be stopping.

There comes a point when being overly certain can become being self-righteously aggressive, and after 7 years of Vaermina still doing this shit I'd say that said point has been reached.

 

I'm thinking when the Star Conquerors went into hiding one or more of the big ones got themselves frozen in Pluto. This was them getting it out.

 

Probably.

The other thing that could be down there is a ship they left from one of the races they controlled, but it's probably a really big Star Conqueror.

 

Well its gonna be interesting reading about a planet sized starro.

 

I'm sorry, this sounds like something I should actually have read. Would anyone care to reiterate?

 

For some reason I have this image in my head of the -probable- Star Conqueror telekinetically using the ship as a lift up bar to pull it self from the planet.

 

I understand the comment to be about how the mass of that much neutronium would be irrelevant as far as gravity is concerned.

That what would be relevant is the change in volume, as a tiny volume turns in an immense one, which would produce an massive explosion. (That was in a second post.)

 

Exact quote.

 

That may not help...

I've not experimented with it, myself, but allegedly quotes are invisible as well as actual posts, if you block someone...

 

I didn't use the automatic quote function.

 

Even if you had, it was explicitly a message bringing up the requested message and anyone can briefly turn off the block until they refresh page or move to a different page. You could literally make it not a quote if you had to take it a step further I suppose, but that seems unnecessary.