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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Chojin Patriarch said:
Really, outside of the 'telepathically restore memories' angle, it wouldn't be that much more complex legally than spectacles or hearing aids, would it?
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Ehh, this is a device that links to the persons brain, not something that's just worn over the body.

A bad pair of glasses can further damage eyesight, and a faulty hearing aid can make you uncomfortable, but this thing could potentially melt someone's brain.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Yeah, that sort of instant justice thing isn't really compatible with modern governance
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Especially since a lot of people break the law in various ways every single day and they don't even know about it.

Seriously, some laws can be extremely complex and convoluted, to the point that it's impossible to even enforce them, so most law enforcement groups don't, both because it's virtually impossible to know if they're happening and because they're harmless.

In some places it's not unusual for some sex positions to be considered illegal.
 
NameOrdane said:
Still not up to date with the thread yet but noticed this inconsistency.

But he should have blue eyes with white sclera now.

Edit: and this section makes sense if he has black sclera, but not if he doesn't.

And the beginning section of this chapter doesn't match at all. Might be easier to just retcon him to always having black sclera, I recall a previous instance of it being mentioned that Jor-El was trying to make them normal, but I guess that part doesn't need to be changed.
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Eh-h...

Which is less of a pain to rewrite?

Honestly, him still having black eyes doesn't make sense, but I prefer him looking like that. I'll change the old version.
Darko said:
"See if"
Add a space between the paragraphs.
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Ngamer11 said:
Also, that should say 'lose'.
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Thank you, corrected.
Chojin Patriarch said:
You'd have to balance it with compassion for best results, otherwise it'd automatically come down on the letter of the laws regardless of circumstance or intent.
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The nice thing about America is that they have a lot of writing contemporary to the period where the constitution was written. They don't need to guess intent: the people who wrote it were pretty clear, even when the phrasing that went into the actual document is a bit unclear.
 
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Yeah, given how many anti-minority laws are still on the books, having a demon/non-sapient elemental would just lead to a lot of dead black/gay/trans people. And then there's the 'overly complicated legal code for tax purposes' issue, the minor laws people break every day that don't hurt anyone…

It's a bad idea.

The anti-corruption thing, though… well. That's pretty damn necessary. It fights Boss Smiley, hopefully weakens him a little, and while bad actors will work to exploit any system put in place, having something a little better than 'we can choose our own salary! And decide what bribes we take are illegal or not, and also we can sleep on the job as much as we want, or leave it at will' would be… nice.

Magically binding oaths of intent to serve would be phenomenal, though I'd want something in there that accounts for life not being a zero-sum game; it would be terrible if a senator felt compelled to screw over another state because their state minority benefitted from something causing… let's say pollution, for a generic issue. (Though the problem with corporations being able to lobby both sides is, of course, that they're doing that already for whatever the corporations want in a lot of places, and have for decades).
 
Mr Zoat said:
"No. I don't. What is it you want?"

"I want to make sure that there aren't any shenanigans in-"

He splutter-laughs.

"-volved-. What?"

"This is Washington, Orange Lantern. 'Shenanigans' are how it works."
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OL - "That sounds like a challenge. Don't threaten me with a good time!"
 
Mr Zoat said:
"Ah… I don't think there's a plan for that, but it would probably… Start with magically binding oaths of office, minutes for all meetings with lobbyists…" Huh. "You know, there's a type of demon you can bind to a menhir who will teleport to anyone who breaks the law within the city and then stab them to death. Ah, insider trading would be illegal for politicians, obviously-."
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I know I have read a fic where this plotline happened but for the life of me I can't remember it.
 
boo600 said:
Yeah, given how many anti-minority laws are still on the books, having a demon/non-sapient elemental would just lead to a lot of dead black/gay/trans people. And then there's the 'overly complicated legal code for tax purposes' issue, the minor laws people break every day that don't hurt anyone…

It's a bad idea.
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I suspect that my views on the subject may divert somewhat from yours, but since I don't want to get thrown off another site, I'll leave it there.
The anti-corruption thing, though… well. That's pretty damn necessary. It fights Boss Smiley, hopefully weakens him a little, and while bad actors will work to exploit any system put in place, having something a little better than 'we can choose our own salary! And decide what bribes we take are illegal or not, and also we can sleep on the job as much as we want, or leave it at will' would be… nice.

Magically binding oaths of intent to serve would be phenomenal, though I'd want something in there that accounts for life not being a zero-sum game; it would be terrible if a senator felt compelled to screw over another state because their state minority benefitted from something causing… let's say pollution, for a generic issue. (Though the problem with corporations being able to lobby both sides is, of course, that they're doing that already for whatever the corporations want in a lot of places, and have for decades).
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Being asleep on the job isn't a problem. If a given elected representative doesn't do enough work, it's the job of their electors to pick someone else. At most, magical anti-corruption would compel them to be open and honest about what they actually did to improve the information their electors have access to.

Screwing over other states is a bad idea, but elected representatives are supposed to advance the interests of their constituents. Voting is the mechanism that a democracy employs to resolve conflicting claims.
 
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