With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I would like clarification, because it sounds like this

means there are a whole lot of itinerant farm workers who are in jail for the crime of being poor and probably undocumented, and working for next to no pay in back breaking conditions, and having been doubly unfortunate enough to do so in a farm with a tangential tie to the syndicate.

 

Sure, but isn't that the reaction heroes always have to the idea that rooting out crime will have negative consequences?

I mean, even in the standard DC universe, the answer to "We can't take down these criminals because it might cause too much collateral damage" is almost always going to be "Fuck those odds; we're going to remain righteous and true, take down the criminals and stop whatever scheme they have to cause damage." "We have a doomsday device and we're not afraid to use it" is just another Tuesday, not an automatic "I win" button for the villain.

Rule of law? Since when do heroes care about that? The idea that taking down criminals is more important than civil rights is practically one of Batman's bedrock principles.

From a standard hero perspective, the only problem here is that the heroes might not have enough firepower to pull it off, not that the goal is a bad one.

 

However I may feel about immigration law in this purely fictional setting, most countries have rules which restrict entry to people not native to that country.

The apple seller sold an apple to someone they suspected was a criminal. Selling apples is not in itself a crime. Also, that happened while Governor Wilson was purging his own state and well before the current day.

Anyone using the Kents to enter the country illegally committed a crime in doing so, and quite likely has been involved in criminal activity (farming narcotics) since.

 

You guys can debate all you want. But its obvious to me that this country needs President Slade. Only he can lead our country from this decay.
SLADE FOR THIRD TERM!

 

You've lived a life of villiany. You admit to crimes ranging from theft to murder. You are the remaining leadership of what amounts to a super powered mafia. One that kept the populace in line through terror of the sheer brute force you could bring to bear.

Suddenly, you are at the disadvantage.

You reap what you sow villian-man.

Now, on top of this you use doppelganger trickery to kidnap me and a young friend of mine so you can have use save your worthless hide?

Simply up and going home is the NICEST thing I can do for you.

Playing on shame won't save you either. I heavily support Bash Back.

Intercede on your behalf to get you let off the hook? HAH!!!!

 

Shouldn’t there be a Lord of Order Klarion running around? He might be reasonable and value a solution that minimizes mass destruction (Nabu-16 might not have, but I’m sure all Lords of Order don’t act the same way). It’s of course possible that Doctor Chaos dealt with him.

 

The status quo was already upset past the point of no return when the Justice League showed up and took out most of the Syndicate leaders.

Right now it's only a matter of time till Slade finishes the Syndicate off.

 

it was more a joke playing on the fact that Zoat seems to have a mild disdain for the new 52

 

He wouldn't even need the Ophidian, he could just make use of the lack of Scry Wards, locate all the powered Syndicate members and just brand them one by one, he wouldn't even need to make them stand down, just adjust their desires so that they wont commit mass murder as response to Slade.

 

Do you think that Enigma and Slade would actually be willing to accept this type of sudden and relatively non-violent victory? The psychological issues that are driving them to intensify the conflict with the Syndicate will not suddenly go away once victory is achieved.

 

This wouldn't give them a non-violent victory, its would just make sure their conflict doesn't results in millions of civilians dying.

 

You picked up on that? I hadn't realised I was being so obvious.

 

So... Just watched episode 14.

Spoiler

Turns out that Barda is still on Team Apokolips. Which presumably means that Scott Free isn't on Earth. Also, liked Guy's singing.

 

Is this supposed to be "country"?

 

Even though this mission seems like a total bust, there are some upsides. There are some real nice super tools up for grabs in this universe.
Power rings, spears of destiny, and maybe even a medusa mask. Point being time to grab some shines and leave before OL fucks with something that can fuck him back.

 

Agreed! Also raid any and all databases with in easy reach for useful tech or what ever. Maybe also take this Earth's version of the things Nylor Truggs used against OL if they can be found on this earth.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Oh, there are more than a few dozen parallel universes. Good to know.

 

Now I wonder the Syndicate will want to try that? Or maybe just pull up stakes and invade some other universe.

 

Oh shit. Who is it going to be? I'm hoping for a mercenary Plastic Man myself.

Also, I absolutely love that scene. A assassin so badass he sings you a song before he kills you. I really should make a bard based on him someday. (Please note I didn't say good assassin. The best assassins have no renown whatsoever)

 

That says a lot about the wizard's safety practices...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Jonathan takes a sip of his beer, his eyes moving around the Great Hall.

"You keep what you kill. It's a classic."

Tula weren't so keen, but I guess she figures she can put up with it 'til she can poison him.

Brains are not entirely her strong suite in this universe, are they?

But he figures, okay." Jonathan shrugs.

And it weren't gonna kill him even if he hadn't spotted it.

Sympathetic magic. classy.

Seems he doesn't agree with the New Deal.

Overconfidence. Easy to manipulate.

A good question.

"What, your ring don't do Latin?
(Proper name of a language, should be capitalised...)

Careful...

Please, don't be an idiot, Ultraboy...

Oh boy, this is going to get funny, isn't it?

Let's hope things don't go completely ploin-shaped yet...

 

I know this is frankly impossible but god I hope it's lobo.

 

Thank you, corrected.

You mean War Wolf.

 

Music is a form of art. Perhaps they have Canis after all?

 

Music Meister Master?

 

"There is no profit to be made in the destruction of the planet"

Well, there is a lot more profit to be made legally too, Fisk you moron.

Or at least the same amount without so much risk.

 

Of course, if you can survive the destruction of the planet then that's another matter.

 

If you can survive the destruction of the planet but can't travel very fast in space, you're going to be bored and lonely for a long time.

 

Hmm... maybe alt!evil version of Jericho? I mean, if Rose is a thing, Jericho could be to. Be a nice twist to have the President's son who was thought to have been killed by Ultraman turn up evil.