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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Ci-Ci-Ciaphus Cain Hero of the IMPERIUM!

    Ci-Ci-Ciaphus Cain Hero of the IMPERIUM!

    Maybe Paul can help him with some of his issues.

    Guy needs a mood kindred.

     
  2. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    I do not think paul classifies as mood kindred in this sense
     
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  3. Darko

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    Well regular friend then.
     
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  4. Rebu

    Rebu hey, little Anna, you're the one

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    Wait, don't the various Pauls forget prior knowledge of the settings they're in when they get there?
     
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  5. Darko

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    I don't remember if this Paul ended up in the 2nd edition, but if he didn't then he should remember it.

    The various Paul's forget only the specific setting they are in, but not the franchise.

    Lord Protector remembered the original Thundercats show, but didn't know about the version of Thundercats he ended up in.

    Paragon and renegade still remember about the DC universe, but don't remember about Young Justice.
     
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  6. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Sadly, no. Pariah's have necrontyr genetic engineering which causes them to disrupt the bond between the material universe and the warp. The SI just happens to not have a soul. On the other hand, he lacks the aura of revulsion that Pariah have.
    Briefly. He decided that there was next to no chance of the Ultramarines letting some random lunatic fiddle around with the systems keeping their primarch alive, that he didn't honestly know if he'd be able to manage it, and that he wasn't sure that he'd like the results if he did.
    Originally, they were. But then GW realised that no one used Hammerheads, so they downgraded the Battlesuit version.
    No, this was a cobbled together thing.
    Wouldn't be the first time someone ate Slaanesh's daemons.
     
  7. Jack of Olives

    Jack of Olives Knows just enough to be dangerous.

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    So, If that is Jurgen, and the Immaterium is connected to/substituting for the Emotional spectrum, does that mean that he'd be connected to the Black Light (being a Blank and all)?

    Just a thought.
     
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  8. Empty

    Empty Getting out there.

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    People have suggested Ciaphas Cain, but I recall that one of the Last Chancers novels took place on a Tau T'au world. Could that be Colonel Schaeffer rather than Cain?
     
  9. Hell's Razer

    Hell's Razer Passive Member

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    *Reads about the character*
    Err, aren't Keepers of Secrets daemons of Tzeench?
    Or have I gotten them mixed up?
     
  10. Darko

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    No, they're daemons of Slaanesh.

    It's understandable how you would confuse them, given Tzeentch's manipulative nature and secrecy thing, and their name sounding like they belong to him.
     
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  11. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    I tend to forget just how ugly most daemonettes actually are. Sometimes you might find official art that makes them almost okay to look at, if you squint hard enough, but most of the time the sexy time demons look like they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

    Also, has 40K Paul been relying on his ring to tell him if he's looking at male or female Tau? Or is there some sexual dimorphism among the Tau I don't know about?

    I think official art has them basically looking identical, but it'd be kind of funny if he was dealing with the degeneracy of big tiddy Tau waifus.
     
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  12. WereDragon

    WereDragon Bookwyrm

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    Fairly impressive shield for such an inexperienced Paul. They might get called ‘flashlights’ but that is a matter of comparative effectiveness, with the benchmark being rapid-fire armour-piercing rocket-propelled grenades.

    Guess in 40K there are plenty of things he would hate enough to Want destroyed.
     
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  13. Darko

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    This Paul may have been in the 40k universe for several months, or even a few years now, so I wouldn't call him inexperienced.
     
  14. WereDragon

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    The dates we have are:
    0 086 936.M41
    6 013 937.M41
    6 232 937.M41
    6 233 937.M41

    What that actually equates to is… debatable but I guess around 15 months.
    However the phrase “it isn’t the age, it’s the mileage” applies. This Paul has mostly been doing paperwork and such as the Tau bureaucracy try to decide what to do with him. As opposed to the near daily combat and specialised training that SI and Renegade got.
     
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    He has also most likely been practicing with his ring and he spent several days fighting with his rings before he met the Tau, so he's far from inexperienced.

    Also he probably went on several missions with the Tau and fought some of the threats in the galaxy, but they still don't exactly know what to classify him as.

    His actions so far show that he is competent and skilled in what he does, so chances are high he's had combat experience.
     
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    Greater Daemons of Tzeentch are lords of Change.
    I'm not going quite that far, but there are physical differences and the SI has learned to recognise them. Sex differences are smaller than caste differences, of course.
    S3 is modern automatic rifle. A lasgun can manage more shots before reloading and is less difficult to maintain, but getting shot is roughly as dangerous.
     
  17. WereDragon

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    S3 is also a baseline human with a sword. And a borderline human deathworlder with a sword. And a human with a power sword that will cut through any mundane material like butter.
    S4 is things like the aforementioned armour-piercing rocket-propelled grenades, monomolecular-edge cutting discs and exotic disintegration. Or… a modern machine-gun.

    With how insufficiently granular 40K mechanics are S3 is a broad range with very fuzzy edges rather than a definitive standard.
     
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  18. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    A baseline human could be S2.
    As I said, I'm a 2nd Edition man. A power sword user could strike at their own base strength if they wanted to, but they'd probably use the sword's S5.
    Their precise performance profile varies, but they all do roughly the same damage.
     
  19. Vaermina

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    Orange Rings very specifically kill a being and make an orange light copy of them when a user assimilates a creature.

    Hence why Larfleeze got so hosed come blackest night when the black rings brought back the souls of those he assimilated.



    Which is an exerpt from someone's personal TTRPG game...

    IE Fanfiction...
     
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  20. Coda

    Coda Versed in the lewd.

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    an

    still happen
     
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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  22. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Sadly by the time of 3rd the toaster lovers broke your beloved Mk 2, and everyone joined Chaos on the pain train. Hydra Dominatus

    [​IMG]
     
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  24. Threadmarks: Kaising the Joint (part 4)
    Mr Zoat

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    6 234 937.M41

    The tall man straightens slightly-. He's at least a head taller than me. Engineered or a minor mutation, I wonder? Unless he's confirmed as 'hostile' it would be a bit off to scan him.

    "I'm afraid that my soul is spoken for."

    Of course, if he is a cultist, I can have a go at trying to convert him. The tau… I don't think they understand human psychology well enough to do that.

    "Oh? Who's the lucky deity?"

    There's a flicker of something on his face. Obviously, if he thinks that I'm a daemon then that wouldn't be the expected response. Do I look that much like a daemon? I'd have thought that the inorganic nature of my constructs combined with the obvious symmetry would clue him in, but I suppose there isn't much else he could compare me to.

    "The God-Emperor of Mankind, in whose righteous-" The fellow with the meltagun is trying to creep closer. "-name we will smite you back to the nether hell from which you crawled!"

    An imperial loyalist. Wonderful. Nice that he was prepared to stop his work as an agent provocateur for long enough to focus on the daemon cult, but still not someone I want on-planet. Not sure what to do next, but I should probably clear up the demon thing.

    "To be clear? I'm not a daemon. This-" I extend my right hand and wave at myself. "-is an archeotech force field generator. It's not even warp-based, as far as I can tell."

    His eyes dart to meltagun man, who stops behind a blast shield out of my line of sight. A meltagun isn't a completely reliable anti-daemon weapon. Most daemons have roughly a 1 in 3 chance of completely disregarding a hit from a mundane weapon, but that still leaves a 2 in 3 chance of the anti-tank gun hitting me. That would kill most daemons.

    "So you've betrayed mankind to the tau rather than the dark gods?"

    "I'm happy to talk about my philosophical convictions at length if you like, but I imagine that you'd rather I didn't. One moment, if you please?"

    Internal only.

    "Orange Lantern to Kais. Tactical overview?"

    "Reinforcements in theatre. Remaining mutants are being destroyed."

    "Good show. Whereabouts are you?"

    "Working through the tunnels. We can take them from behind shortly."

    "Hold position. They're imperialists, so I'm going to offer them terms."

    "This world is part of the Tau Empire. They're not here as part of an official embassy."

    "No, but they were fighting daemon cultists. We both know that the Tau Empire isn't as effective at fighting those as it needs to be."

    "That decision should be referred to Aun'la Bo'ohk."

    "And I will refer it to him. But in the absence of a direct order, we should not escalate against people not demonstrated to be hostile."



    "We're holding position."

    "Thank you."

    External.

    "So here's what I'm going to suggest. While I'm probably supposed to apprehend you, I'm jolly glad that you fought these daemon-worshippers and as such I'm prepared to offer you parole."

    "Just as long as we bow down to your alien overlords first."

    "Your choice. I can either take you to a human-controlled world in Tau Empire territory-" One of the 'in compliance' ones, obviously. "-or to the closest Imperial world or naval patrol."

    "And what do you want in return?"

    "No, nothing. It's a 'thank you' for fighting these cultists. It's nice to meet someone with his priorities in order. Though I really do suggest that you consider the Empire. The Imperium can get a bit 'summary executiony' with people who've been this close to a daemonic incursion, and I'd feel that I'd wasted my time here if that happened to you and yours."

    "Fighting against the cultists of the dark gods is not grounds for summary execution. I truly pity humans like you who are raised by the tau to believe such lies." But he lowers his laspistol, and the others appear to take it as a general sign that they're standing down. "Still, I was here for the cult, and the cult is dead. My men and I will accept passage to an Imperial world."

    "Good show." I don't dismiss my armour, but I do shrink it a little. "I'm afraid that the last rogue trader vessel left several weeks ago-"

    Which clearly explains how they got here. Someone is going to find that their Warrant of Trade suddenly has a more limited remit.

    "-but you can travel with the next Water Caste convoy, or I can…"

    Three fingers on his right hand are cybernetic. He's about two metres tall. And the chap with the meltagun looks… Pretty normal, actually? But it might just be his pariah abilities that make people think he's messy in the novels.

    Ring, access files on Gravalax. Confirm his appearance.

    Confirmed.

    "Do I have the pleasure of addressing Commissar Ciaphas Cain?"

    He doesn't raise his pistol, but his hand definitely twitches.

    "You do indeed."

    I float towards him, my armour strengthening.

    "You're the reason why I had to spend eight months chasing down genestealer cultists." People around us… I don't know whether they're Valhallans in disguise or local imperialists. They fan out, guns at the ready. "So now you get a lecture on why what you did was really stupid. And then you can go home and repeat it to Ms Vail."

    "Tyranid fleets-" He said it as 'Tie-ran-id'! Victory! "-are drawn towards the cults. I'm sure that you'd rather they preyed upon Imperial worlds than tau worlds. Why would you expect me to care about the reverse?"

    "Because you clearly don't understand how far that beacon extends."

    I hold up my right hand and generate a map of the region, with the locations of local hive fleets highlighted.

    "These fleets have turned slightly towards the areas where the cults were operating. Mission achieved? No." I pull out a considerable distance, still marking the region's hive fleets. "Because these tyranids are now altering course just a little to fly a little more this way than they were before. And quite a few of those are going to hit Imperial worlds." I pull out again. "And so are these-" And out further, showing the tyranid fleets still approaching the galaxy. "-and so are these, and they're coming just a little bit faster, because they got a slightly stronger broadcast. Extra-galactic hive fleets are coming to this galaxy just a little bit faster… Because of what you did. And while that's bad for the Tau Empire… The Tau Empire only covers a little bit of the galaxy. Humans are everywhere. So the fleets over here-" I point. "-and over here and over here and over here, are flying into Imperium space, they're going to attack Imperial worlds, and they're not going to come anywhere near the tau because there aren't any tau over there, and because of what you did they're going to come just a little bit quicker. Do you understand… Why that's a bad thing?"

    He regards my image with disquiet. "I'll… Take it under advisement."

    "Then take this under advisement too. Tyranids are drawn to psychic beacons. Like living worlds. Tau have minimal warp presence so tend not to draw them as much as humans, and far less than eldar. But do you know what the biggest psychic beacon in this galaxy is? I'll give you a clue: it's the one your ship's navigator used to guide the ship which brought you here."

    His face whitens.

    "So I'll give you that lift home now, and you can pass this on to Ms Vail, and I don't want anything like that to ever happen again. Do you understand?"

    He nods.

    "Good show. Now let's be off."
     
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    'taller than'

    Or he's just naturally a tall guy.
     
  26. Gromweld

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    HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!

    Slightly disappointed the SI didn't say it, if only in his head.
     
  27. Darko

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    Or yell it out to him after he asked about his name just to weird him out.
     
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    Alexandercctv Making the rounds.

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    So the God-Emperor is drawing in the Tryanids, hmm.
    I knew we couldn't trust him.
     
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    And he believes Paul about any of this why?

    You know what... No... Better question... Why won't he just call in a full on exterminatus of the Tau the moment he get's com access?
     
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    Thank you, corrected.
     
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